IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 January 2020 (all times are UTC)
| 02:45 | <linux_user> alkisg: hello
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| 03:16 | alkisg: you online?
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| 05:36 | <alkisg> linux_user: here; but in general, just ask the question, and me or anyone will answer when they see it
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| 09:05 | <Talikka> are there some online courses for LTSP studying? Linux Foundation MOOC?
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> Talikka: most of the ltsp documentation is in ltsp.org and the man pages and wiki linked from there
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| 09:09 | <alkisg> LTSP is just a program, I wouldn't expect to find "courses" online about it
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| 09:15 | <Talikka> thanks ... I am still a noob but surrounded by experienced people (right now in Helsinki we are discussing these EU project and business opportunities in Eastern Europe: Linux and refurb ICT and training)
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| 09:16 | alkisg does not seem to use LinkedIn even though he has a profile there. We might want to send you and some other European potential colleagues some email.
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| 09:17 | <alkisg> Talikka: yeah I have a permanent job, no need for linkedin, and too much spam there. My email is alkisg at gmail if you need it, note though that I'm only interested in sponsored development, not really in bureaucratic things, I avoid those :D
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| 09:43 | !tag
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| 09:43 | <ltspbot> tag: devs: before tagging a new ltsp version, remember to have launchpad export translations to the branch: https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/+translations-settings
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| 09:44 | <alkisg> !forget tag
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| 09:44 | <ltspbot> The operation succeeded.
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| 09:44 | <alkisg> !learn tag as git tag -s v20.01 -m 'Version 20.01; git push --tags
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| 09:44 | <ltspbot> The operation succeeded.
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| 09:45 | <alkisg> !vagrantc-todo
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| 09:45 | <ltspbot> I do not know about 'vagrantc-todo', but I do know about these similar topics: 'vagrant-todo'
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| 09:45 | <alkisg> !vagrant-todo
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| 09:45 | <ltspbot> vagrant-todo: (#1) awk in 09-hostname, or (#2) arm network boot, or (#3) fix network-manager https://bugs.debian.org/810934
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| 12:35 | <gvy> Talikka, I can give you an address of the guy who helped me create ALTSP some ten years ago, he might be available for hire (but it's Kiev and not EU at all)
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| 13:49 | <dgroos> Hi. good-news: The solution of making 8.8.8.8 the only dns server with the command sudo ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=8.8.8.8 survived the "stress-test" yesterday: not a single time did a student get a message when doing a google search: "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN". However...
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| 13:51 | The bad news is that I got a call from the district office towards the end of my 3rd hour telling me that they were getting reports that some computers in the building were booting to Ubuntu (our district only does windows/mac).
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> AFAIK in EU it's against the low to enforce a specific vendor
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| 13:52 | *law
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| 13:52 | Not sure if this is also true for private schools though
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| 13:53 | <dgroos> :-D I'll tell them that and if they give me a hard time I'll move to EU!
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| 13:54 | (I'm at a public school)
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> Also, the test probably means that your district DNS server isn't running very smoothly...
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| 13:55 | <dgroos> It's great however that I'm no longer at that particular school with that particular admin, I've actually got great admin now... so there's no major problem with this mishap.
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| 13:56 | However, I'm trying to understand how it happened 1) so I don't do it again and 2) so that I can re-fix my googling problem :)
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> Aaaah now I got what you meant
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| 13:56 | So you have a 2-NIC setup, and some PCs in the internet-facing NIC booted as LTSP clients
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| 13:57 | To avoid that, you run: sudo ltsp dnsmasq -p0
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| 13:57 | <dgroos> exactly
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| 13:57 | <alkisg> ...which means "no proxy"
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| 13:57 | You can also set it in ltsp.conf so that you don't forget it
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| 13:58 | <dgroos> cool, and I do that following the sudo ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=8.8.8.8 ?
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| 13:58 | <alkisg> No, because it would generate ANOTHER dnsmasq.conf, overwriting the previous one
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| 13:58 | You need to combine the commands
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| 13:58 | ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=8.8.8.8 -p0
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| 13:59 | Just put this in ltsp.conf:
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| 13:59 | [server]
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| 13:59 | PROXY_DHCP=0
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| 13:59 | Then you don't need to worry about it anymore
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| 13:59 | <dgroos> OK! And I'll change the ltsp.conf, too. THANKS again Alkis!
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> Which means that you won't need -p0 anymore
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| 14:00 | It'll be the default then
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| 14:00 | np, have fun
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| 14:03 | <dgroos> No need to re-run ltsp image / [ipxe] etc?
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| 14:03 | <alkisg> No
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| 14:03 | <dgroos> yes to fun!
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| 14:03 | OK have a great afternoon :D
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> Good morning to you too! :)
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| 14:04 | <dgroos> :)
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| 18:49 | <dgroos> Hi @alkisg
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| 18:49 | * alkisg waves | |
| 18:49 | <dgroos> :-)
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| 18:50 | I thought that the problem with google searches not working was solved by changing the dns server of the clients to 8.8.8.8
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| 18:50 | but find that it still is happening.
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| 18:51 | so looks like the what actually helped yesterday was that it was working as a proxy server.
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> Nah this doesn't make sense. I'll finish writing an email and I may help in 5-10 minutes, if you want
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| 18:52 | <dgroos> In other words, I had no problems when my machine was handing out images to the WAN but when I restricted that, the problem returned.
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| 18:52 | Thanks, I do!
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| 19:04 | <alkisg> dgroos: ready
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| 19:04 | !vnc-edide
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| 19:04 | <ltspbot> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 19:19 | <dgroos> @alkisg, so sorry, colleagues walked into the room and we had to talk about something
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| 19:19 | np if no time now
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| 19:19 | <alkisg> dgroos: vnc
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| 19:21 | dgroos: so, the clients have dns = 10.x
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| 19:21 | Is this the desired result?
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| 19:22 | <dgroos> but... I did the 8.8.8.8 command...
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| 19:23 | <alkisg> That one was done a dgroos, with no rights
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| 19:23 | It probably answered "need root" or something...
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| 19:23 | And that one had no dns, so it used the autodetected one
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| 19:23 | Let's do it properly
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| 19:24 | <uumas> (should probably recommend 1.1.1.1 over 8.8.8.8)
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> dgroos: it's ready now, I put them in ltsp.conf so that they always take effect
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| 19:25 | <dgroos> ok!
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| 19:25 | thanks!!
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> Clients need to be rebooted to test
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| 19:25 | np
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| 19:25 | <dgroos> ok
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| 19:25 | And just checking... it won't boot to WAN?
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| 19:26 | (I mean, WAN won't pick up the image?
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> Nope, I put PROXY_DHCP=0 in ltsp.conf
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| 19:26 | So it won't ever do that again :)
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| 19:27 | <dgroos> :-D!!!
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| 19:27 | OK, now to work w/students in front of me :-)
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> Remember to reboot clients :)
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| 19:27 | Cheers
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| 19:28 | <dgroos> right now!
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| 23:49 | <jgee> In the new ltsp.conf, where can I add Xserver options? (what used to be X_OPTIONS_01), I need "NoAccel" for some clients
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