IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 March 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:55 | <robehend1> is it possible to run a fatclient with the lubuntu-desktop metapackage on 11.10?
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| 08:38 | <dobber> do you have any tips on how to debug a crash issue on fat client ?
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| 08:38 | thunderbird crashes very often on a few boxes
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| 08:38 | randomly :(
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| 08:40 | <alkisg> How much ram do those fat clients have?
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| 08:50 | <dobber> around 4gb
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| 08:50 | it was the first thing we upgraded
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| 08:50 | indexing is off on tb
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| 08:51 | but the mailboxes are around 2gb anyway
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> Is there anything else crashing? E.g. firefox? Or it's just thunderbird?
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| 09:05 | <dobber> skype
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> If other media-related apps are crashing, it may be a problem with your graphics driver
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| 09:08 | If not, it may be a problem with sshfs, you can try toggling SSH_FOLLOW_SYMLINKS
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| 09:08 | Check dmesg and ~/.xsession-errors
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| 09:17 | <dobber> hm i recently played with graphic drivers
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| 09:51 | <srdjo> @alkisg Hi alkisg
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| 09:51 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 09:52 | <srdjo> just want to give you some more information about the problem with ltsp Fat client printing
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| 09:52 | the only problem is enabling printer sharing
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| 09:52 | because printer remains installed after logoff and even after restart
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| 09:53 | <alkisg> Since you opened a bug report about it, it'd be best to put the info there, for the developer that will hopefully work on the problem
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| 09:53 | <srdjo> I will do it
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| 09:53 | <alkisg> A cupsctl call should probably be enough
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| 09:54 | <srdjo> just wanted to ask if you could point me to the way of making startup script that will enable the sharing
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| 09:54 | where to put it ?
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> In RCFILE_01 in lts.conf
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| 09:54 | !lts.conf
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| 09:54 | <ltsp> alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 09:57 | <srdjo> the command for enabling printer sharing is "cupsctl --share-printers" - do i put it in the file as plain text or is something more needed ?
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| 09:58 | <alkisg> Don't put it in any file, just call it
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| 09:58 | RCFILE_01="/usr/sbin/cupsctl --share-printers"
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| 10:10 | <fossala> Gnome-settings-manager won't start on my thin clients but will on my server. This means my gnome-settings aren't being applied. Any idea what I can do?
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| 10:13 | <srdjo> @alkisg - The RCFILE way is not working - sharing is still disabled. Since CUPS requires the root account on FAT client to enable it via GUI, is there a way to run it as root and pass password ? username: "root" - password: "root123"
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| 10:21 | <alkisg> !SCREEN_02 | echo srdjo:
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| 10:21 | <ltsp> srdjo: SCREEN_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 10:21 | <alkisg> Try cupsctl from that SCREEN_02 shell
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| 13:50 | <elcot_> !ltsp
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| 13:50 | <ltsp> elcot_: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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| 13:50 | <elcot_> !tftp
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| 13:50 | <ltsp> elcot_: tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 13:51 | <elcot_> !ndb-server
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| 13:51 | <ltsp> elcot_: Error: "ndb-server" is not a valid command.
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| 13:51 | <elcot_> !nbd
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| 13:51 | <ltsp> elcot_: I do not know about 'nbd', but I do know about these similar topics: 'disable-nbd-proxy', 'nbd-proxy', 'nbd-compression', 'quick-nbd-tests'
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| 15:42 | <LuizAngioletti> Hyperbyte: Hello there!
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| 15:43 | Hyperbyte: Was it you who told me worked with ltsp based computer labs?
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| 15:43 | I mean, different schools and hardware sets.
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| 15:51 | <Hyperbyte> No, I don't work for any schools.
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| 15:52 | <LuizAngioletti> Hyperbyte: ok then. =P My mistake, =)
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| 15:55 | <andygraybeal> hi Hyperbyte, LuizAngioletti, alkisg !!!!
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 15:55 | <LuizAngioletti> andygraybeal: Hi there
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| 15:55 | <andygraybeal> :))))
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| 15:56 | <LuizAngioletti> So to let you know.. and maybe you have considerations about it: I just read an article about DNS Round-Robin implementation for load-balancing of LTSP servers.
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| 15:57 | With /home shared via NFS and LDAP authentication.
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| 15:58 | The article argues that it might be a good solution for disposing more than 4GB for the set of clients without having to use a 64bit system.
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| 15:58 | for the server, of cours.e
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| 15:59 | <alkisg> The default -pae kernel sees 64mb ram in 32bit systems
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| 15:59 | *GB
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| 16:00 | <LuizAngioletti> alkisg: the problem most of times is just motherboard slots, anyway... at least with older hardware.
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| 16:01 | do you folks know sikuli?
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| 16:02 | <andygraybeal> sikuli sounds lke a mythical character :)
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| 16:02 | <LuizAngioletti> http://sikuli.org/
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| 16:03 | they used it to simulate user interaction through the graphical interface.
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| 16:05 | <andygraybeal> LuizAngioletti, do you use it?
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| 16:05 | <LuizAngioletti> not yet
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| 16:05 | this article I just read used it.
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| 16:10 | I wonder if anyone else has...
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| 16:33 | <andygraybeal> i bet there is a irc channel for it :P
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| 16:45 | <LuizAngioletti> andygraybeal: It's a pitty I didn't bet paypal money... there isn't.
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| 16:45 | <andygraybeal> aah :)
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| 17:09 | <LuizAngioletti> andygraybeal: I'm gone. =)
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| 17:09 | 'till next time.
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| 17:54 | * alkisg also goes on to disable localapps and localdev for clients with <= 128 RAM, otherwise they're not really usable... | |
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| 19:24 | <srdjo_> @alkisg - i tried executing cupsctl from that SCREEN_02 shell and it worked
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| 19:24 | printers got shared instantly
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> srdjo_: ok, so putting it to an rcfile_01 line should work
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> srdjo_: it's possible the rcfile_xx has bug in your ubuntu/ltsp version
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| 19:26 | <srdjo_> I am using Ubuntu 11.10
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> Put the line that I told you some hours ago, and when the client boots, from SCREEN_02 type: cat /etc/rc.local
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| 19:26 | If the line ended up after the "exit 0" at the end of that file, it's not executed
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| 19:36 | <srdjo_> last line is exit 0
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| 19:36 | <alkisg> What do you have in lts.conf currently?
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| 19:39 | <srdjo_> [default]
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| 19:39 | LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 19:39 | LDM_SESSIONS="gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback"
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| 19:39 | X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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| 19:39 | CUPS_SERVER=localhost
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| 19:39 | LOCALDEV=True
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| 19:39 | SOUND=True
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| 19:39 | RCFILE_01="/usr/sbin/cupsctl --share-printers"
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| 19:39 | thats all
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| 19:40 | I reinstalled everything just to make sure it is not something else
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| 19:41 | <alkisg> grep run_rcfile -A6 /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
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| 19:41 | What's the output of that? use pastebin
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| 19:41 | !pastebin
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| 19:41 | <ltsp> alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 19:42 | <srdjo_> where to run it ?
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| 19:42 | on client or server ?
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| 19:42 | <alkisg> On your server
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| 19:42 | If on client, omit the /opt/ltsp/i386 part
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| 19:42 | Wherever's easiest for you
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> Btw, about your lts.conf, it's LDM_SESSION, not sessions, and you don't need localdev and sound as they're true by default
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| 19:48 | <srdjo2> here is output pastebin.com/VTtWtMmh
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| 19:50 | <alkisg> That should work... it might be called too soon and maybe cups is not started yet
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| 19:51 | srdjo2: when you manually tried running cupsctl, did you do so before logging in?
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| 19:52 | <srdjo2> no - I did it after logging in
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| 19:52 | <alkisg> Try it again, before logging in, to see if it's still effective
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| 19:52 | <srdjo2> I will try it now
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| 19:54 | it runs ok
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| 19:54 | logged as root on shell
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| 19:55 | <alkisg> So, if you boot a client, run cupsctl, and THEN login, you have shared printers,
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| 19:55 | <srdjo2> yes
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| 19:55 | <alkisg> yet it doesn't work from RCFILE_xx? Maybe that's too soon then
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| 19:55 | <srdjo2> I dont even have to login
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| 19:56 | as soon as I run the command
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| 19:56 | <alkisg> Ah, you're checking from another client if you see the printer?
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| 19:56 | <srdjo2> the printer appears on server
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| 19:56 | yes
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| 19:57 | <srdjo2> @alksig - I need to go home - will be back in 15 minutes - will you be able to continue then ?
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| 19:57 | <alkisg> Not sure, maybe
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| 19:57 | <srdjo2> ok - see you in 15 minutes
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| 20:00 | <alkisg> stgraber: about ltsp-client-core.upstart,
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| 20:00 | 1) why not name it ltsp-client.upstart? and
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| 20:00 | 2) it appears that the "post-stop" event is called when the script finishes executing, i.e. right after starting the screen sessions and the sound, at RUNLEVEL 2 instead of 0-6.
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| 20:00 | (ah about 1, you'll need a dh_installupstart line in debian/rules, ok)
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| 20:01 | <stgraber> alkisg: right and usually when only shipping a single job, having it match the package name is easier
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| 20:01 | alkisg: checking 2) now
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| 20:03 | <stgraber> alkisg: right, I need to move everything in pre-start, then it should work
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| 20:04 | <alkisg> stgraber: I can try it quickly if you pastebin it for me
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| 20:04 | About boot times, we're not too bad, in lucid I got 13 seconds with fast fat clients and now I'm getting 20. Considering the additional services that start on boot and the larger initramfs etc it's ok.
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| 20:05 | Unfortunately 64 MB RAM clients can barely boot anymore, and localdev/localapps/cron/dbus need to be disabled for 128mb ram clients
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| 20:05 | So, minimum=128, recommented=256+ for thin, 768+ for fat
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| 20:06 | <stgraber> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873533/
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| 20:07 | <alkisg> The grep at post-stop shouldn't be needed, nbd-disconnect checks for nbdroot in the kernel cmdline
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| 20:07 | <stgraber> but you could use nbdroot without LTSP and have ltsp-client-core installed no? (I know that'd be a bit weird ;))
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| 20:08 | <alkisg> Yes, and in that case you'd want nbd-disconnect :)
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| 20:08 | <stgraber> well, my point is that we shouldn't call /usr/share/ltsp/* unless we're sure to be on LTSP :)
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| 20:09 | also calling the pre-start only on LTSP systems but the post-stop on all systems sounds a bit weird :)
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| 20:09 | <alkisg> nbd-disconnect should go to /usr/share/nbd/ :D when we get a chance to talk to wouter about it
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| 20:09 | <stgraber> right, that'd be the right place for it indeed
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| 20:10 | <alkisg> The nbd-client initscript needs a lot of cleanup, and the disconnect thing too, but we didn't have time to do it for precise...
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| 20:11 | vagrantc: any objection if I disable localdev, localapps, dbus, cron and rsyslog for clients with <= 128 MB RAM?
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| 20:11 | (of course only the defaults, they could still be enabled from lts.conf)
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| 20:12 | <vagrantc> alkisg: how much does localdev/localapps take?
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| 20:12 | <alkisg> I don't have exact numbers, but I do have 5 mins boot time vs 1.5 min
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| 20:12 | <vagrantc> eeyk.
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| 20:12 | with NBD swap?
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| 20:12 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 20:12 | it's possible that in debian the threshold for lag/swap would be less though
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| 20:13 | <vagrantc> right, that's why i hesitate to push that so hard.
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| 20:13 | <alkisg> On 12.04 I can't scroll a page in firefox if I have localdev/apps enabled
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| 20:13 | <vagrantc> things are just getting bloated :(
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| 20:13 | <alkisg> Maybe define a per-distro threshold? Or, call `free` at some point and decide based on the result?
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| 20:14 | stgraber: it hang again on shutdown
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| 20:14 | <stgraber> alkisg: do you have access to a shell at this point? if so, can you do "status ltsp-client-core"
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> stgraber: no, complete hang, I can't even change vt
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| 20:15 | <stgraber> fun ...
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| 20:16 | alkisg: I'm wondering if you indeed get RUNLEVEL in ./client/nbd-disconnect when called from upstart
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| 20:16 | <alkisg> stgraber: previously I got RUNLEVEL=2
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| 20:17 | And in ltsp-reboot.conf etc I got the correct runlevel too
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| 20:17 | What puzzles me most is the complete hang, it's not the usual "nbd errors" problem...
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| 20:19 | <stgraber> right and I had a quick look at upstart's documentation confirming that RUNLEVEL should be passed to the job, so that's not the problem
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| 20:20 | alkisg: can you try "stop on starting runlevel [06]"?
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| 20:20 | alkisg: stop on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[06]
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| 20:20 | actually
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| 20:21 | this will ensure it gets called first thing on shutdown
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| 20:21 | <alkisg> The previous one is booting now, so let's test it...
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| 20:21 | <stgraber> yeah, I doubt "stop on starting runlevel" would be valid as runlevel is just an event, not a job, so it can't be "starting"
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| 20:22 | <alkisg> No go, testing the last one...
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| 20:23 | I think that from the point where you moved everything to pre-start and on, I'm getting the "normal" nbd error hang, not the complete kernel hang, which is a good sign :)
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| 20:23 | Nope, same deal for the last one too
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| 20:24 | I'll try to lower the 5 secs delay, in case upstart kills -9 the job
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| 20:25 | <stgraber> well, we start nbd-disconnect in the background, so upstart will just continue the shutdown sequence without waiting for nbd-disconnect
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| 20:29 | <alkisg> I think that from the upstart side we're ok, the nbd-disconnect script is called, but then it's not working as expected for some other reason
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| 20:34 | I managed to do it, but I haven't bisected the line that causes the problem yet
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| 20:38 | Meh from previous tests I had some chvt + sleeps there, by using the upstream nbd-disconnect it worked fine
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| 20:39 | So stgraber your last "stop on" line was fine
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| 20:40 | <stgraber> cool
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> vagrantc: do you have a debian ltsp chroot handy to give me the output of `ps aux; sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; free`, while at ldm?
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| 20:44 | <vagrantc> alkisg: not any recent versions.
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| 20:44 | * alkisg needs to build one for better testing... | |
| 20:44 | <alkisg> vagrantc: any version with cow/init-ltsp.d would do though
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| 20:45 | <vagrantc> alkisg: don't have one
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| 20:45 | <alkisg> ok, ty
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| 21:03 | <srdjo_> @alkisg I will be online so if you find some spare time to try to fix my problem I would appreciate that - thanks in advance
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> srdjo_: try editing /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.local, and putting the cupsctl command right before exit 0
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| 21:13 | Then ltsp-update-image + reboot client
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| 21:14 | !quick-nbd-tests
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| 21:14 | <ltsp> alkisg: quick-nbd-tests: to quickly test stuff without rebuilding your NBD image and without switching to NFS, put "break=mount" in pxelinux.cfg/default, and then from the initramfs prompt run chroot /root bash -l . Edit any files you want and press Ctrl+D two times to continue the boot process.
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> Or you could try this way if you understand the quick how-to, it's faster ^
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| 21:36 | <srdjo_> I will buid the image since it gives me the error at initramfs about bash (no such file or directory)
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| 23:18 | <naptastic> How do you keep /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.conf from filling with definitions because every thin client adds theirs to it?
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