IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 March 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:31 | <hima> hi
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| 09:32 | i connect to ltsp server using both thin client and rdp
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| 09:33 | xrdp
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| 09:33 | i use the same user to login
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| 09:35 | whatever i change while using xrdp , it shows instantenously
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| 09:36 | on fat thin client
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| 09:37 | what i change on fat-thin it shows instantenously on other XRDP , but when change at XRDP , it will now show on thin-fat client unless i prefresh
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| 11:03 | <vlt> hima: How high are you?
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| 11:05 | <hima> vlt , i think you are at the wrong place
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| 11:05 | <vlt> I think you need to explain (at least to me) what you mean with a “change” that “shows”, what a “fat thin” client is and what a “thin-fat”, the difference between “while using xrdp” and “at xrdp”, what “prefresh” is and if you mean “not” when you say “now”.
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| 11:26 | <hima> i am talking about connecting to ltsp server using fat client
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| 11:36 | <vlt> hima: You’d help me understand the problem if you took each of my marked phrases and explained it (maybe with an example).
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| 11:42 | hima: Can you give an example for a “change”?
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| 11:49 | <quinox> What kind of changes are you talking about... installing applications, changing UI colors?
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| 12:01 | <hima> craeting folders
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| 12:02 | first example
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| 12:03 | i iam logged in to the Fat Client , and at the same time logged using XRDP with the same user
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| 12:05 | <vlt> And?
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| 12:06 | hima: Details.
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| 12:06 | <hima> on fat client :if i created a folder on desktop , it reflects rapidly on xrdp
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| 12:07 | but if i create or rename or do whatever on xrdp , it will refresh on fat client after i press f5
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| 12:08 | i think it is a matter of screen refresh
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| 12:08 | in fat-client client
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| 12:09 | <vlt> I don’t.
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| 12:10 | <hima> may be it is something in lts.conf?
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| 12:11 | <vlt> Your fat client writes to the remote file system. This occurs immediately.
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| 12:11 | xrdp is a session running locally on the server.
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| 12:12 | <hima> i could show you s nap of viedo
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| 12:12 | <vlt> Why?
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| 12:13 | <hima> cause it did not refresh at my fat client while remote session is running
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| 12:13 | any way , thanks for giving the hint ,that it should not be like that
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| 12:13 | <vlt> Are you even listening?
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| 12:14 | If you change something locally in the xrdp session it might not get “announced” to all the remote file systems that very moment.
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| 12:15 | <hima> then , the right thing should be declared , regarding remote session and fat client syncs
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| 12:15 | <quinox> I think most people only log in at 1 place at a time when using LTSP
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| 12:16 | <hima> coorect
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| 12:16 | <vlt> hima: Sorry, I didn’t understand that. Who should do what?
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| 12:16 | <hima> but , if i want to help some one logged in at fat client, while i am online
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| 12:16 | i need to login using remote session
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| 12:17 | vlt , execuse me for my english
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| 12:18 | i mean , it would be better if someone explained that
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| 12:18 | <quinox> if you're providing remote assistence just remember than you're working with a remote filesystem, so you have to press F5 :)
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| 12:19 | you might want to connecto the fat client, in that case you'll see precisely what the user sees including mouse cursor etc.
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| 12:19 | <hima> yes i see
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| 12:19 | but
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| 12:19 | i am talking about case , where
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| 12:19 | someone outside the local network of ltsp server
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| 12:20 | and wanted to help a user at fat client
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| 12:20 | <vlt> hima: I just did exactly that.
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| 12:20 | <quinox> TeamViewer ?
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| 12:20 | <hima> i use already
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| 12:20 | <quinox> I have no idea how well that one works for Linux clients to be honest, I only rarely use it when helping remote Windows users
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| 12:21 | <hima> i mean i use teamviewer all the time with windows
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| 12:22 | <quinox> they have linux binaries on their site as well, but again I don't know if that particular product works nicely on linux
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| 12:22 | I often use Skype too btw
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| 12:23 | <hima> do skype do functions as teamviewer?
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| 12:23 | <quinox> you can share your desktop when you're in a video call, works decently most of the time
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| 12:23 | if you are in a video chat with someone they can share specific windows or their whole desktop
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| 12:24 | <hima> and it is fast enogh?
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| 12:24 | <quinox> as a remote assistent you cannot click, but you can see what they see
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| 12:24 | I never want to click anyway, I want to teach people what to do so they won't call me again :-)
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| 12:24 | <hima> teamviewer is a dominat in windows area
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| 12:24 | <quinox> fast enough for helping people - it's not nearly as fast as RDP
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| 12:25 | <hima> i used to use teamviewer
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| 12:25 | helping people in localnetwork
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| 12:25 | <quinox> Speed wise what I think it goes like this: X11 - VNC/Skype - TeamViewer - RPD
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| 12:25 | <vlt> hima: I use x11vnc on the client to help users.
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| 12:26 | <quinox> I never use Windows, but I'm seriously impressed by the performance and functionality of RPD
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| 12:26 | <vlt> I can reduce the colordepth of the transmitted image on the fly in case it’s too slow.
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| 12:27 | <quinox> nice
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| 12:27 | <hima> i use thinstation to initiate rdp for windows hosts
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| 12:27 | we have alot of 600Mhz 128MB ram\
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| 12:28 | using thinstation image on CDROM
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| 12:28 | and can connect to any remote session
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| 12:29 | * quinox will go AFK now, there's a sun shining on his balcony that demands he should come out and play | |
| 12:35 | <hima> vlt
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| 12:36 | is the only function of LTSP server to have fat or thin clients
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| 12:36 | is there a way to use it as remote boot server for different os
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| 12:40 | <vlt> hima: Yes, there is. I use its tftp and nbd parts for print servers, for example.
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| 12:42 | <hima> what is the main difference between pxelinux.0 and ndb
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| 12:42 | so all what i need is preparing the other image
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| 12:43 | change default configs in pxelinux.cfg directory
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| 12:43 | ???
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| 16:45 | <hima> hi alkisg
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| 16:46 | i read somewhere i can RDP to windows from fatclient
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| 16:46 | using SCREENS
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Yes, SCREEN_07="xfreerdp params"
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| 17:02 | <hima> it did not work for me
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| 17:02 | i set it like that
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| 17:03 | SCREEN_08="xfreerdp"
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| 17:03 | RDP_SERVER="55.55.55.55"
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| 17:03 | could i give SCREEN_08 ti RDP m while SCREEN_0 for ldp?
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| 17:04 | <alkisg> If you mean ldm, then yes
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| 17:04 | I don't know what ldp is
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| 17:04 | <hima> ldm yes
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| 17:04 | rdp ddi not work for my
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| 17:05 | <hima> #SCREEN_08="rdesktop xx.yy.zz.ee"
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| 17:06 | <alkisg> I don't know what ddi is
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| 17:07 | <hima> mistyping
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| 17:07 | ddi not = did not
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> Put SCREEN_08=xterem
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| 17:08 | xterm
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| 17:08 | From that xterm, find an xfreerdp command that works
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| 17:08 | Then, put that command in SCREEN_08, in one line
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| 17:08 | Don't use RDP_SERVER etc
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| 17:19 | <hima> i am managing now
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| 17:36 | no way
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| 17:37 | SCREEN_08="xterm xfreerdp /v:IP"
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| 17:37 | if set SCREEN_08="xterm" it opens the terminal
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| 17:38 | if i issued xfreerdm command from the termainl it come to certificate
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| 17:45 | i think the problem is with certification mismatch
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| 17:46 | now
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| 17:46 | it is working
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| 18:19 | xfreerdm /v:195.43.8.242 /p:3389 /u:user /p:password
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| 19:43 | <hima> alkisg???
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| 19:43 | i had seached for xfreerdp
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| 19:44 | it uses RDP_SERVER
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| 19:44 | RDP_SERVER
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| 19:44 | <alkisg> As I said, don't use it, it was there for the ltsp-cluster user interface
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| 19:45 | <hima> RDP_SERVER=
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| 19:45 | RDP_OPTIONS=
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| 19:45 | <alkisg> Just don't put those variables anywhere, forget that they exist
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| 19:46 | <hima> MENU_COMMAND=
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| 19:46 | that was the only way it worked for medireclty
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| 19:46 | such config brings me a menu screen
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| 19:46 | to choose wich system
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| 19:46 | to use
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| 19:47 | including ldm
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> Do you have some question there?
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| 19:48 | <hima> there?
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| 19:49 | <alkisg> You said a few things which I don't agree with, but I didn't understand if you are asking me something or not
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| 19:49 | Are you asking something?
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| 19:50 | <hima> i will pastebin
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| 19:52 | httpd://goo.gl/oib4MH
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| 19:54 | <alkisg> You pasted that instead of pasting the url, https://jphein.com/spice-session-screen-script-for-ltsp-thin-clients-running-under-ubuntu/ ?
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| 19:54 | This talks about writing a spice screen script, which has nothing to do with rdp
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| 19:54 | <hima> the script includes rdp
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| 19:55 | is it a different scenario?
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| 19:55 | <alkisg> rdp support is in the xfreerdp screen script
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| 19:55 | There's no need to go to random sites and do random things
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| 19:57 | <hima> i tried the same script but it ddi not work when i set screent to xterm
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| 19:58 | it did not work when i set SCREEN_07=xterm
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| 20:32 | <vlt> hima: In case `xfreerdm /v:195.43.8.242 /p:3389 /u:user /p:password` from xterm did not work: try xfreerdp instead.
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| 23:48 | <hima_> vlt thanks
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