IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 28 September 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:15 | <ltspuser_40> hello to all
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| 03:16 | i get an error ifs.mount: connection time out on clients
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| 03:16 | need help, please
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| 03:21 | anybody live?
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| 03:24 | <ltspuser_07> good evening everyone (well it's evening in the USA)
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| 03:24 | does anyone know of a good LTSP simultaneous usage calculator?
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| 03:25 | I'm trying to figure out how many simultaneous LTSP terminals I can support with this Phenom II X6 3.2ghz CPU & 8-gig of RAM
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| 03:25 | assuming they are doing simple word documents and general web surfing using Firefox or Chrome (no video)
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| 03:30 | <ltspuser_40> hi
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| 03:31 | good evening
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| 03:31 | it seems that we are live :)
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| 03:40 | <ltspuser_07> is anyone alive tonight
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| 03:40 | or is everyone hibernating
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| 09:13 | <ltspuser_51> Hi all! Tell me how to make the download client is not using DHCP
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| 11:54 | <Luizcezar> hello! I want some ideas about kernel panic on boot, my error is Please append a correct "root=" boot option. In my pxelinux.cfg/default my root path is /dev/nb0 but i didnt find nb0 on dev, is it normal?
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| 11:56 | <jahmon> Hi guys, anyone know how i can get lts.conf to just run my script and do nothing else?
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| 11:58 | <jahmon> i've got....
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| 11:58 | [default]
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| 11:58 | SCREEN_07 = citrix1
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| 11:58 | but it just stalls on boot up and gives no output on the pxe client
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| 12:30 | <jahmon> :'(
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| 12:32 | <markit> hi alkisg :) Just one question... to troubleshoot kde problems I need to login from my pc to a FAT client. I've installed openssh-server in chroot, but I can't login as root/one user in the fat. is easy for you tell me the steps required? i.e. do I have to add /etc/passwd from host to chroot? other? epoptes could help?
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| 12:35 | <Inar> Hello everybody - I can't get sound for local-applications to work. Wondered im someone could recommend a docu/man site for that.
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| 14:16 | <alkisg> markit: epoptes can help, yes, right click on the client and select to open a root terminal
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| 14:16 | To login as root with ssh you need to set a root password in the chroot
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| 14:27 | <markit> alkisg: hi, thanks
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| 14:27 | but chroot does not have /etc/passwd or I recall wrongly?
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> It does
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| 14:28 | It doesn't have user accounts though (uid >= 1000)
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| 14:28 | <markit> oh, ok
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| 14:28 | sure, that makes sense
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> Check the wiki, it's mentioned there
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| 14:28 | <markit> :)
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| 14:28 | I've tons of notes I should reorder and leran, sigh
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| 14:28 | <markit> s/leran/learn
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| 15:26 | <jahmon> Hi guys, im to modify the rdesktop script to run my citrix ica client. but the rdesktop script doesn't seem to be working, it starts the xserver, but just shows a mouse pointer and nothing else, any ideas?
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| 15:30 | <jahmon> perhaps its trying to launch rdesktop too early and the xserver hasn't started....
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| 15:31 | <alkisg> rdeskop isn't installed by default in recent ubuntu versions
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| 15:31 | xfreerdp is preferred instead
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| 15:33 | <jahmon> so if i just did a symlink from xfreerdp binary to my script it should work? might have to lose a few arguments i guess.
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| 15:34 | lazy solution :)
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| 15:39 | <blakes> Need help. The ltsp server (12.04lts) is no longer allowing thin clients to NAT through its outside interface! Rebooted server after auto updates and now we are toast.
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| 15:40 | <blakes> Maybe iptables?
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| 15:42 | <Mava> blakes: check what the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward says
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| 15:42 | cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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| 15:43 | <blakes> it's a one (1)
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| 15:43 | <Mava> gut
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| 15:43 | then very likely it is iptables imho
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| 15:45 | <blakes> you think this will work for me: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html
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| 15:47 | <Mava> it should yea, looks familiar
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| 15:47 | <blakes> thnx!!!
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| 15:52 | <jahmon> even xfreerdp just gives a blank screen with a mouse pointer :s
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| 15:52 | confused as my kiosk was working fine and that obviously needs an xserver...
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| 15:53 | <blakes> Mava... this did not work. I cannot ping the outside interface (eth1) of the ltsp server when logged into a thin client.
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| 16:00 | <kb8wmc> I have problem loading client under Ubuntu 10.04: Client halts at Error: Connect: Connection refused *Starting LTSP client......Invalid card number.
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| 16:03 | <Mava> blakes: very intresting, can't help you dude anymore - sauna is warm and she's waiting - good luck anycase =)
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| 16:50 | <blakes> Just so I can close the loop, and provided that these sessions live somewhere on the interwebs, I found the solution to my thin client being unable to connect to the internet problem
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| 16:52 | Upon reboot after update, isc-dhcp-server took over from dnsmasq for some reason, and the defaults in the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf was to make 192.168.0.1 the default route......
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| 16:53 | <alkisg> "took over from dnsmasq"? You have dnsmasq as a dhcp server? 2 of them?
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| 16:53 | <blakes> my default route is the thin client-side interface of the ltsp server at 192.168.0.254.
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| 16:54 | alkisg: I had initially set up dnsmasq to handle dhcp services, yes and disabled isc-dhcp-server.... it may have been you who suggested to do so back in Aug
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| 16:55 | <alkisg> Why disable instead of uninstall?
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| 16:55 | <blakes> don't remember... was a long time ago, computer-wise ;)
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| 16:56 | The config got blown away, presumably by a recent update.... just a guess
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| 16:57 | took a little while to figure out, but ssh'ed to the thin client and discovered the routing problem, then worked backward from there.
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| 16:59 | I don't know if you remember, but this was an upgrade from 10.04 -> 12.04 and the transition to dnsmasq and nbd-server was a bit small bit of crazy.
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| 17:51 | <ltspuser_73> hello
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| 17:52 | i have a question
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| 17:52 | <vagrantc> the channel awaits your question(s)
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| 17:52 | <ltspuser_73> i have a debian squeeze filesystem and i'm using ldm
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| 17:53 | some applications like firefox, thunderbird, etc don't have the same theme as gnome
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| 17:54 | the menu of firefox stays grey instead of dark
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| 17:55 | like nautilus
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| 17:55 | <vagrantc> does it behave differently when using LTSP?
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| 17:57 | <ltspuser_73> the behave is the same but the theme of certain applications like firefox, thunderbird is different from ubuntu's theme
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| 17:58 | <vagrantc> so you want to have a similar theme across applications?
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| 17:58 | <ltspuser_73> yes
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| 17:59 | exactly
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| 17:59 | <vagrantc> themeing is not my forte :(
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| 18:00 | <ltspuser_73> not mine too :)
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| 18:00 | thank you
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| 18:01 | have a nice weekend
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| 18:10 | <knipwim> does ubuntu or debian have support for the --packages option in ltsp-build-client?
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| 18:10 | for a list of extra packages to install
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> there's --early-packages, --late-packages and --kernel-package son debian
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| 18:12 | and --backports-packages, --pin-packages ...
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| 18:12 | but no --packages
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| 18:13 | <knipwim> gentoo only had --packages, i was wondering what to write in the wiki
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| 18:13 | s/had/has/
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| 18:13 | <vagrantc> could implement --packages easily enough, would probably just either append to --late-packages or --early-packages
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| 18:15 | if we wanted to come up with a more standard list of options that distros need to support
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| 18:16 | <knipwim> good idea
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| 18:17 | i'll make a note of common options in the wiki
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| 18:17 | and a list of distro-specific ones
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| 18:57 | <knipwim> Debian has a lot of options!
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| 18:58 | <vagrantc> yes it does.
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| 18:58 | probably to a fault
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| 19:10 | <gvy> phew, wish me luck: we run a local free software conference tomorrow
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| 19:11 | <muppis> I'm not yet familiar playing with fat/thin in same network. So, if I but LTSP_FATCLIENT=False to lts.conf, fats will boot as thin?
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| 19:24 | <vagrantc> gvy: good luck! where at?
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| 19:25 | muppis: that will force thin clients, even if the various methods of autodetecting that it should be booted as a fat client
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| 19:25 | rather, it doesn't try to autodetect
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| 19:25 | <muppis> vagrantc, you were slow.. ;) Tried out it already. :D
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| 19:26 | <vagrantc> muppis: you were slow, i tried it out ages ago :P
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| 19:26 | <muppis> vagrantc :P
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| 19:28 | But yet, but not ltsp related, problem. I need to resize server's home partition and.. well, I want to do it with gparted..
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| 19:29 | <gvy> vagrantc, Kiev, Ukraine: http://conference.osdn.org.ua/en/
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| 19:29 | <vagrantc> muppis: boot it to a live cd or something
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| 19:29 | or boot it to LTSP :)
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| 19:31 | <muppis> vagrantc, well... It _is_ a ltsp server and doesn't have a cdrom drive. I could do a usb live..
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| 19:31 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 19:32 | muppis: for the future, i recommend using LVM
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| 19:32 | <muppis> If I could find a one..
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| 19:33 | vagrantc, I wonder why I didn't used that when I created that server.. Well, it's my homeserver so.
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| 19:33 | <muppis> .
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| 19:33 | <knipwim> vagrantc: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Talk:Ltsp-build-client
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| 19:33 | the distro specific options ^^
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| 19:34 | <vagrantc> muppis: i almost always use lvm, as it adds so little overhead and so much flexibility, i don't have to worry about it in the future.
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| 19:35 | <muppis> vagrantc, I know. I use it in servers @ work.
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| 19:36 | So that's why I wonder why I haven't used it here in home.
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| 19:36 | <vagrantc> of course debian/ubuntu default to using thee whole lvm volume ... seems like it'd be smart to leave 10-20% unused.
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| 19:37 | <muppis> Yeah.
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| 19:50 | <cliebow> got al ink for bts this year?
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| 20:13 | <TheProf> Good afternoon. I hope you are all doing well. I am using Edubuntu 12.04 and loving LTSP. Question: how can I make sure that changes to lts.conf are occurring? Is there a "hello world" sort of thing to make sure the thin clients are reading it?
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| 20:28 | <vagrantc> TheProf: set SCREEN_07=shell
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| 20:28 | TheProf: it should just drop you to a shell instead of a graphical environment.
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| 20:29 | <muppis> vagrantc, I created a LVM afterall. :D
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| 20:30 | <TheProf> vagrantc: Great thanks! And this should work under the [default] section correct?
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| 20:30 | <muppis> TheProf, yes.
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| 20:30 | <vagrantc> muppis: you just didn't... notice? :)
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| 20:31 | <muppis> It can be put that way. :)
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| 20:31 | <TheProf> Thank you.
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| 22:34 | <monteslu> what's a good way to take a screenshot of a thin client from the server? I've tried something like "ksnapshot --display=192.168.0.81:1.0" or gnome-snapshot but that doesnt seem to work
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| 22:34 | does that need to actually run on the thin client?
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| 22:42 | <alkisg> If you are root, you can bypass the xorg authentication and do it, but it'd be better to use a tool that can do that, like e.g. epoptes
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| 22:42 | !epoptes
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| 22:42 | <ltsp> epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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