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Channel log from 29 November 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 13:58 | <GGD> good afternoon all
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| 13:58 | i have a ubuntu LTSP question
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| 13:59 | <sbalneav> !ask
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| 13:59 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 13:59 | <GGD> i can see the ltsp directory in my GUI but when i try to use the terminal i can't get to it
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| 13:59 | i am using 9.10
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| 14:00 | it says path not found
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| 14:00 | <sbalneav> Are you trying this from the thin client?
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| 14:00 | <GGD> no from the server
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| 14:01 | <sbalneav> How are you "trying to get to it" from the terminal?
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| 14:01 | <GGD> in the gui its a slight latency to get to it but i get to it
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| 14:01 | using the CD command
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| 14:01 | <sbalneav> Can you please show us the exact command you're using?
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| 14:01 | <GGD> hold on
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| 14:02 | cd /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 14:03 | <sbalneav> Is there anything in /opt/ltsp?
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| 14:03 | <GGD> i can't get to that dir
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| 14:03 | using cd command
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| 14:03 | but in the gui i can see the fodlers
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| 14:03 | folders rather
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| 14:04 | <sbalneav> Is there anything in /opt?
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| 14:04 | <GGD> in the gui,,, it shows the ltsp and images folders
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| 14:04 | no nothing on the CLI
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| 14:04 | <sbalneav> please paste the output of the following command to the pastebot:
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| 14:05 | ls -l /opt
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| 14:05 | !pastebot
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| 14:05 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 14:06 | <GGD> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/f1d796430
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| 14:06 | <sbalneav> Are you the sole administrator of this machine?
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| 14:06 | <GGD> yes
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| 14:07 | its a test machine as i am trying something that i found
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| 14:07 | using ltsp
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| 14:07 | <sbalneav> Are you already IN the chroot?
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| 14:07 | <GGD> i think so
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| 14:08 | i did a sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 command already
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| 14:08 | <sbalneav> Then of course you won't see it.
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| 14:08 | <GGD> oh
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| 14:08 | <sbalneav> you're already IN it.
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| 14:08 | <GGD> ahh forgive me i am sorta new to ubuntu
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| 14:08 | <sbalneav> Have you read the docs?
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| 14:08 | <GGD> i use fedora mostly
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| 14:08 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 14:08 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 14:09 | <GGD> i am reading right now
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| 14:09 | thank you
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| 14:10 | <sbalneav> To "get out" of the chroot command, you'll need to type "exit"
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| 14:13 | <GGD> ok
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| 14:13 | i didn't know there was different shells so to speak
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| 14:15 | <sbalneav> All the chroot command does is reposition where "root" is
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| 14:15 | Normally, root lives... well, where root is. /
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| 14:16 | by doing a "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386", then /opt/ltsp/i386 becomes the "new" root.
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| 14:16 | when you cd /, it looks as if you're in /
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| 14:16 | but you're at /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 14:16 | <GGD> ahh and you can't ll or dir in it..
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| 14:17 | <sbalneav> Well, you can, sure.
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| 14:17 | ls will work. Any command that's been installed in the chroot will work.
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| 14:18 | in the ltsp chroot is a mini-installation of linux, so quite a few things work as expected in the chroot.
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| 14:18 | but /opt/ltsp/i386 isn't IN the chroot. If it was, that'd be (outside the chroot) /opt/ltsp/i386/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 14:18 | <GGD> ahh and that is the folder that when you pxe from the server thats what your boot into
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| 14:18 | <sbalneav> Correct.
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| 14:18 | <GGD> gotcha now
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| 14:18 | <sbalneav> for the thin client, that's it's root.
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| 14:19 | <GGD> gotcha now
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| 14:19 | its a little different
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| 14:19 | <sbalneav> No, it's been used for years.
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| 14:19 | It's exactly the same process linux uses to install to a hard drive.
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| 14:20 | <sbalneav> When you boot off the cdrom, and start installing to the hard drive, linux uses exactly the same chroot command to get the work done.
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| 14:20 | it's just not a tool that most users interact with.
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| 14:22 | <GGD> ahh and you put that into the OS as a sub directory
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| 14:24 | <sbalneav> Going afk for a bit, gotta move some servers around.
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| 14:29 | <GGD> ahh thank you sbalneav
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| 14:48 | <GGD> hmmm
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| 14:48 | now my server doesn't want to get packages
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| 14:51 | <johnny> if you're doing it from the chroot , you do need to copy /etc/resolv.conf into the chroot
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| 14:52 | <GGD> oh ok
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| 14:53 | <johnny> that is.. if your problem is resolving dns
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| 14:53 | <GGD> it keeps giving me a package can not be found erro
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| 14:54 | rror
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| 14:55 | <johnny> didyou run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
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| 14:56 | <GGD> not yet
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| 14:57 | i jsut did
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| 14:57 | and it failed
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| 14:57 | hold on
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| 14:58 | http://ltsp.pastebin.com/d71edc0e8
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| 15:22 | <GGD> any ideas?
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| 15:25 | <johnny> remove the stupid cdrom line from your chroot sources.list
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| 15:25 | <GGD> ok...
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| 15:25 | how do i do that?
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| 15:25 | <johnny> delete it
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| 15:26 | open up the file.. delete the line..
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| 15:26 | or pop in the cd.. if you have one..
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| 15:38 | <GGD> ok johnny i am running it now
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| 15:38 | i deleted the line
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