IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 November 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:46 | <alkisg> Erik__: try booting your clients with a live usb stick, and press alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to the console, and see if it works. If it doesn't, it's a graphics driver issue unrelated to LTSP. If that's the case, you can then try a number of workarounds or alternate xorg versions.
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| 07:12 | <Erik__> /msg alkisg thanks I will try. The weird part is.. If I load LDM on Screen_07 and menu on Screen_08 It works on the HP T610 too. But I want it as the default.
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| 07:15 | <gehidore> was a good effort Erik__
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| 07:25 | <alkisg> Erik__: try what I suggested, it's probably a graphics driver issue
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| 07:32 | <Erik__> I will
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| 08:05 | <Erik__> Hi Alkisg, we made a live usb. and with ctrl alt f1 we can access the terminal
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> Erik__: and is it using the same kernel and xorg?
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| 08:09 | !nomodeset
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| 08:09 | <ltsp> nomodeset: Unfortunately, Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) doesn't work well with some cards. To disable it, open /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset".
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> Erik__: can you try this, temporarily? ^
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| 08:09 | <Erik__> Yes we will alkisg thanks in advance
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> Also note down the kernel/xorg of (1) the ltsp image, and (2) the live cd. Put them to pastebin.
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| 08:13 | Erik__: btw, when you say "localboot", how do mean boot from local storage? How do you display a whiptail menu *before* booting from local storage?
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| 08:14 | <Erik__> No we dont do localboot was a typo
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| 08:14 | I meant over local lan
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> So you offer rdesktop and a full ltsp session? Why the menu then, if you have SCREEN_07 and SCREEN_08 in lts.conf?
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| 08:16 | <Erik__> No that was just a test.
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| 08:18 | * alkisg doesn't get what "boot over local lan" means... anyway | |
| 08:18 | <Erik__> We have 5 sites, if somebody works on a location other then its own we want them to rdesktop. If they are in their "home office" we want them to use ldm
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> Why not use ldm and select the rdesktop session from there?
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| 08:18 | There's a menu inside ldm just for that
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| 08:18 | Preferences > Session
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| 08:18 | And you select rdesktop from there...
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| 08:19 | <Erik__> Yes we understand that.. But we have elderly personnel and we want to reduce the clicking..
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| 08:19 | No offence..
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> Of course none taken, don't worry about such things
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| 08:20 | Personally I don't like much the ldm design either :)
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| 08:20 | <Erik__> Option could be to open that greeter in fullscreen. But its kinda hardcoded
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| 08:22 | is there a possibility to rebuild the gtk greeter in ldm to pop up the hosts before they enter their username and password?
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| 08:22 | <alkisg> Sure, it's just code :)
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| 08:22 | Anything is possible
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| 08:22 | You can also set different default hosts per user
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| 08:23 | <Erik__> Can we define this in Ldap?
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| 08:24 | we'll try the nomodeset now
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| 08:24 | <alkisg> If you start writing code (or hire someone to do so), you can do anything you like
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| 08:24 | But currently what you're asking is not implemented
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| 08:25 | <Erik__> Ok thank
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| 08:25 | s anyways.
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| 08:29 | Those are really good tips though. Well keep it in mind.
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| 08:32 | Alkisg you just won an award
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| 08:32 | person of the year.
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| 08:32 | Thanks!!
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| 08:33 | nomodeset was the key for the hp t610!
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| 08:42 | <Erik__> Do you know why this changes the output? Whats the difference between nomodeset and quiet splash?
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| 08:44 | found it already
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| 08:44 | nomodeset - tells the kernel to not start video drivers until the system is up and running.
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| 08:44 | yes okay
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| 08:47 | <alkisg> Erik__: nomodeset makes the performance much worse
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| 08:48 | It just verified that it's a graphics drivers issue
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| 08:48 | Now you need to find the proper combination of kernel/xorg that works
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| 09:15 | <supervisor> Hello
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| 09:15 | <Erik__> Hi.
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| 09:16 | <Erik__> switch accounts
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| 09:25 | <ErigonW> Yes indeed Video card driver issues
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| 09:25 | Screen also unknown in the booted image. We will indeed try to find the right set up from here. We will figgle around with the ati/amd hd 6300 first.
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| 13:44 | <ErigonW> Keep ketting errors with different drivers. Well keep you posted if it works out
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| 15:54 | <godaz> hi could someone please help me with booting issue for a raspberry pi with a pinet image on it?
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| 19:37 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: so, taking a look at the stack, pam-python is in debian already, libnss-external would need to be added ... and ideally we'd get lightdm-greeter-webkit2 still?
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| 19:37 | which also needs to be added
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| 19:38 | sbalneav: would it be too difficult to get both the libnss-extrafiles and libnss-external implemented?
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| 19:38 | we're too late to make the upcoming debian release for new packages, for the most part
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| 19:39 | i guess we can just rely on backports, when the time comes
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| 21:53 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: I'm up in Dauphin at the moment, but I'll take a look at reimplementing with libnss-extrafiles.
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| 21:53 | Should be easy.
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| 21:54 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: sure, just looking at options :)
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| 21:54 | <sbalneav> Absolutely
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| 22:06 | <vagrantc> we probably don't have the ability to get much in the way of code into the upcoming debian release, but the less we have to rely on backports, the better
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