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Channel log from 17 January 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:45 | <kc8pxy> johnny: i got the clientbuild to work at the shop :) man did i forget how long it's been since i sync'ed that box :)
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| 00:45 | <johnny> so.. was it the gtk-engines?
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| 00:46 | that'll be nice
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| 00:46 | what i need now..
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| 00:46 | <kc8pxy> rather, i got it to a successful build of ltsp-build-client
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| 00:46 | it was 10p local when i got that far.
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| 00:46 | <johnny> so.. what are you gonna do now?
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| 00:47 | <kc8pxy> johnny: when i get back in, chroot and install openrc(unless you added it to the bzr this afternoon.) as well as portage2.2
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| 00:47 | <johnny> oh
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| 00:48 | <kc8pxy> xorg seemed to build, so that's good(at least i saw it's drivers building.
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| 00:48 | <johnny> i was hoping you could tell me whether gtk-engines is required
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| 00:48 | <kc8pxy> johnny: as soon as i get a chance to get back in the shop, i will.
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| 00:49 | <johnny> so i can fix the deps on ldm, and remove it from the quickstart script
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| 00:49 | <kc8pxy> ok.
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| 00:49 | will do , asap.
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| 00:49 | but it's bed time here :-(
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| 05:44 | <faustino333> hello
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| 05:44 | i have a problem
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| 10:09 | <pem725> struggling with openchrome for my clients on ubuntu 8.04.1 and was wondering if anyone could lend a quick hand.
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| 10:14 | <nubae> pem725: what's the problem?
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| 10:15 | <pem725> well I get the tc to recognize the driver but I get black screens.
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| 10:15 | I tried the openchrome driver and the via driver - both downloaded and compiled in my chroot.
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| 10:16 | any thoughts on how to get this to work?
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| 10:16 | also, I just wanted to know if I was doing the right thing by compiling the drivers and installing them in the chroot environment.
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| 10:17 | <nubae> well, the driver should be auto detected
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| 10:18 | <pem725> ok, so I should be able to leave the lts.conf file empty or should I specify openchrome or via explicitly?
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| 10:18 | <nubae> If u are installing it in the chroot, u need to make sure the xorg.conf uses the right video module, and that module is being loaded by the kernel
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| 10:18 | <pem725> ah
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| 10:18 | I do not think I am loading the kernel module.
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| 10:18 | do I simply put that in the /etc/modules file?
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| 10:18 | in chroot of course.
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| 10:19 | <nubae> yeah
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| 10:19 | try that
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| 10:19 | <pem725> ok
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| 10:19 | thank
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| 10:19 | I'll give that a go.
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| 10:19 | tia
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| 10:19 | <nubae> but still, it should be doing it through lts.conf
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| 10:19 | <pem725> how so?
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| 10:19 | <nubae> does openchrome not get recognised as the driver being loaded?
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| 10:20 | <pem725> it does according to the Xorg log file.
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| 10:20 | <nubae> what u need to do is check from the console on the client the xorg.log
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| 10:20 | <pem725> but still I get a black screen.
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| 10:20 | yep
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| 10:20 | that is what I mean.
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| 10:20 | <nubae> ok... then u dont need it in the chroot
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| 10:20 | <pem725> so I don't need to add the kernel module?
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| 10:21 | <nubae> nah, its being loaded already
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| 10:21 | maybe try some other things like dropping the color depth
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| 10:21 | to 16bit
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| 10:21 | <pem725> hmmmm, it sounds as if it is being loaded but I do not get any errors. Some WW but no EE in my log.
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| 10:21 | ok
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| 10:22 | shall I do that at the lts.conf level or should I specify my own xorg.conf file for the client?
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| 10:22 | <nubae> lts.conf
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| 10:22 | <pem725> ok
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| 10:22 | thanks again.
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| 10:30 | <nubae> pem725: your Xorg.0.log doesn't say anything about loading the openchrome driver (errors I mean?)
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| 10:37 | <pem725> nope
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| 10:37 | sorry I was trying all the various permutations.
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| 10:37 | oh wait, I am looking at Xorg.1.log.
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| 10:37 | there is no Xorg.0.log in /var/log
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| 10:38 | and no file in the root dir.
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| 10:38 | is this a problem?
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| 10:39 | <nubae> no, then xorg.1.log
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| 10:39 | it doesn't mention where it fails?
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| 10:40 | <pem725> nope
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| 10:41 | in fact, the last line just states (II) VIA(0): VIALeaveVT
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| 10:41 | don't know what that means.
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| 10:42 | I was switching back and forth between via and openchrome drivers but no luck with either.
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| 10:42 | I can get the clients to boot with the vesa but it restricts the resolution.
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| 10:45 | <nubae> hmm, ok, so try setting CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 10:45 | and then X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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| 10:45 | in lts.conf and see if that helps
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| 10:49 | <pem725> ok
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| 10:52 | it seems to be taking a long time - cycling through different configs I guess.
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| 10:53 | <nubae> well it should either work or not, shouldn't take any longer than normal
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| 10:53 | <pem725> ok, so it is not working.
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| 10:53 | I only have CONFIGURE_X=True and X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 set for the client.
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| 10:54 | <nubae> and [default] at the top of the file?
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| 10:55 | <pem725> SERVER, SOUND, LDM_DIRECTX, and LDM_ALLOW_GUEST.
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| 10:55 | but those should not affect the Xserver, shout it?
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| 10:55 | should it I meant.
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| 10:58 | <nubae> what u got under server?
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| 10:58 | <pem725> the CONFIGURE_X does recognize the openchrome driver but I still get a black screen. Perhaps I will try to compile a new driver.
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| 10:58 | what do you mean? In the lts.conf file?
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| 10:59 | my lts.conf file just specifies the SERVER=192.168.100.1
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| 11:02 | <nubae> hmmm, what tc hardware u got?
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| 11:03 | <pem725> EPIA-EN15000G mb.
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| 11:11 | <nubae> I guess u'll need to try another driver
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| 11:11 | have u checked to see if loading from a usb stick works?
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| 11:12 | ie... if X loads from local storage instead of via ltsp
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| 11:13 | <pem725> that is a good idea. I think I will try a usb distro and see if I can get a different driver to load. Thanks again.
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| 12:33 | <pem725> nubae - I solved the problem! After recompiling several different versions, I found the precompiled binary hosted on the via linux portal worked. Thanks for your help.
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| 13:36 | <kc8pxy> anyone here got a plausible reason that my lstp client can get ldm working, but the thing barfs when i succed at logging in.
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| 13:37 | <sbalneav> Define "barfs"
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| 13:37 | Maybe you need to update your ssh keys
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| 13:38 | maybe you have an error. Check the ".xsession-errors" file for the user
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| 13:38 | could be something else, but without knowing more info, I can't help
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| 14:06 | <kc8pxy> sbalneav: barfs= black screen for a bit, then drops to cli, and them ldm reboots. nothing in .xsession-errors
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| 14:07 | sbalneav: you mean ~/xsession-errors?
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| 14:07 | sbalneav: you mean ~/.xsession-errors?
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| 14:08 | <sbalneav> right
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| 14:09 | <kc8pxy> nothing in my chroot of the nfs root.. it's ro.
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| 14:11 | <sbalneav> No, on the server, in the home directory of the user you're trying to log in as.
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| 14:12 | once you've logged in, all the work's being done on the server.
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| 14:15 | <kc8pxy> usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
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| 14:15 | /usr/bin/xterm: DISPLAY is not set
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| 14:17 | <sbalneav> You're running a gentoo port, aren't you?
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| 14:17 | <kc8pxy> yes
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| 14:18 | <sbalneav> Sounds like they're not passing through the DISPLAY variable
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| 14:18 | to the X session.
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| 14:19 | Are you running with LDM_DIRECTX=True?
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| 14:24 | <kc8pxy> sbalneav: only change I've made to the ltsp-server package johny made is to add some packages to the client root. where would LDM_DIRECTX be?
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| 14:24 | <sbalneav> In the lts.conf file.
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| 14:25 | You're not using tcsh are you, for that user?
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| 14:32 | <kc8pxy> i use bash for everything.
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| 14:37 | nope.. it's not there.
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| 15:45 | <faustino333> kc8pxy i have a similar problem
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| 15:46 | but in my case it shows in the access logs that i have some sshd problem with the users
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| 17:06 | <jammcq> good evening #ltsp
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| 19:31 | <Gadi> evening, all
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| 19:31 | <jammcq> hey Gadi
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| 19:32 | <Gadi> kc8pxy: check the server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config and make sure you allow x FORWARDING
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| 19:32 | jammcq: !!!
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| 19:32 | how's it up north?
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| 19:32 | :)
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> cold
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| 19:32 | <Gadi> ditto
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> although we've got a bit of a heat wave today. It hit 14F
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| 19:33 | was -9 yesterday morning
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| 19:33 | <Gadi> prolly felt like -14
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| 19:35 | <jammcq> I was looking at the flight path of that jet that landed in the hudson. it prolly flew right over your office, eh?
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| 19:39 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 19:39 | prolly
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| 19:39 | actually, I heard it hit geese over riker's
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| 19:39 | so prolly a bit to the southeast of us
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| 19:39 | <jammcq> http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=26991
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| 19:39 | * Gadi is surprised there wasn't an outcry over the killed birds! | |
| 19:40 | <jammcq> I'm sure that's coming
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| 19:40 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 19:40 | oops - I meant west not east
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| 19:41 | that flightpath takes him over the bronx and not close to riker's at all
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| 19:41 | hmm...
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| 19:41 | must have been the "ither" geese
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| 19:41 | we have them all over
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| 19:41 | <Gadi> actually looks like he flew over my old apartment
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| 19:57 | <Gadi> g'night jammcq
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| 22:04 | <kc8pxy> where do i look to find out why i'm not getting into a WM? i've got a ldm login, but trying to start the session, it dies.
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| 22:05 | (gnome-session:16437): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
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| 22:07 | <sbalneav> Your display variable's not being set.
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| 22:07 | Either:
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| 22:08 | 1) You've got X11Forwarding set to "no" in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server
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| 22:09 | <sbalneav> or 2) the Gentoo port of ltsp isn't passing through the DISPLAY variable for some reason.
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| 22:35 | <kc8pxy> sbalneav: i hope i now know all the bits to make this "stupid" thing work :) x11forwarding was the key/
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