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Channel log from 9 December 2008 (all times are UTC)
| 00:08 | <Ryan52> warren: okay, I wrote a program like zenity but without the insane dependancies. look at ldm-trunk :)
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| 00:09 | (and hopefully it doesn't look like crap, either :d)
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| 00:46 | <stgraber> 25 commit mails !!! :)
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| 00:46 | but well, dmrc support so that's fine
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| 01:02 | <Ryan52> ya, and most of them were stupid (add a todo, fix emacs mode, &c)
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| 03:38 | <polytan> hi
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| 04:38 | <polytan> johnny, are you here ?
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| 04:53 | <Appiah> oh crap
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| 04:54 | I have yet to setup my gentoo-ltsp test!
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| 05:10 | <pem725> I am running ltsp on Ubuntu 8.04 with everything running fine until last night apt-get upgrade of my server. Now my clients are refused sshd. Any ideas how to fix this?
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| 05:43 | <polytan> johnny, I've instrall a ltsp client with ltsp-build-client
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| 05:43 | that boots by pxe
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| 05:43 | but the ltsp login screen doesn't start
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| 06:06 | <generalsnus> we have some problems installing skolelinux here, we are installing "ftp.skolelinux.org/cd-lenny-test-dvd/debian-edu-amd64-i386-DVD-1.iso" and we are behind a proxy, but wehen the install gets to "installing applications" it just ends..with no obvious error.. im guessing it tries to connect to the net.. but it has no proxy settings yet.. what can we do?
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| 06:07 | <polytan> re
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| 06:12 | <Appiah> generalsnus: well if you do a netinstall from a "normal" debian cd your able to put in proxy settings, you get no such option on this debian-edu-amd64-i386 dvd ?
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| 06:12 | pem725: what error do you get?
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| 06:14 | <generalsnus> no option to set proxy
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| 06:15 | and, it only states that there was an error with installing applications.. no more info
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| 06:16 | well, can i do a net install of the testing version? skolelinux 3.0 is just too old
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| 06:28 | <Appiah> no idea never touched skolelinux
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| 06:29 | <pem725> I look in the login log file and it says...sshd[7375]: refused connect from ::ffff:192.168.100.250
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| 06:29 | <Appiah> when you try to login?
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| 06:29 | <pem725> no
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| 06:29 | from my server logs
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| 06:29 | the screen is stuck at a black screen with an X cursor
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| 06:30 | it appears to be cycling through xconf modelines now though...
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| 06:31 | <Appiah> pem725: do you have something in iptables blocking ssh?
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| 06:31 | <pem725> whoa! I just figured it out. After updating my server, my eth0 and eth1 swapped so now my networking is borked.
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| 06:32 | any way to fix eth0 to a mac address?
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| 06:32 | <Appiah> weird , dont your dist use udev?
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| 06:32 | <pem725> yes
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| 06:32 | I have a udev rule setup already but I guess the new kernel ignores it.
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| 06:32 | <Appiah> What dist and version?
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| 06:32 | <pem725> ubuntu 8.04.1
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| 06:33 | <Appiah> see if the udev persist for net is overwritten
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| 06:34 | <pem725> yes, it appears to have been overwritten
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| 06:34 | darn.
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| 06:34 | <pem725> ok, I will fix this.
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| 06:35 | thanks for the lead
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| 06:35 | <Appiah> see to it so it wont be overwritten at next update..
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| 06:35 | <pem725> not sure I know how to block that file when udev gets updated.
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| 06:35 | I will check into it though.
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| 06:36 | <Appiah> I have no idea on how to handle that on ubuntu
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| 06:37 | <pem725> thanks Appiah. I will ask the edubuntu or ubuntu folks.
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| 08:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> !seen warren
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| 08:23 | <ltspbot`> _UsUrPeR_: warren was last seen in #ltsp 10 hours, 14 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <warren> the entire pile seems to work
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| 08:23 | <warren> I haven't seen warren.
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| 08:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> hurr
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| 08:25 | morning
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| 08:25 | I see there's a gaping security hole the size of a hallway someplace?
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| 08:25 | <johnny> there is?
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| 08:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: same message as above :P
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| 08:26 | <warren> oh shit
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| 08:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> johnny: dunno. I come in today and see a pm from warren which says "giant security hole"...
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| 08:26 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: I thought it was a security hole, but it isn't
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| 08:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: oh, nice :)
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| 08:27 | <johnny> the gaping security hole is warren's mouth i guess
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| 08:27 | hehe
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| 08:27 | <rjune> warren: you know the story of the little boy that cried shark?
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| 08:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> lulz :)
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| 08:27 | to be fair, he cried shark in pm...
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| 08:27 | technically, shark was only whispered
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| 08:27 | <warren> if it were a security hole, is it wise to talk about it in public?
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| 08:27 | <johnny> no
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| 08:28 | <johnny> just jokin with ya warren
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| 08:28 | <rjune> _UsUrPeR_: you're ruining a perfectly good tease
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| 08:30 | <polytan_> johnny, hi
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| 08:49 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:49 | <CAN-o-SPAM> morning scotty
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| 08:49 | <warren> I have to reboot, something going wrong
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| 08:49 | <sbalneav> Hey ho!
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| 08:49 | <rjune> howdy sbalneav
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| 08:54 | <Appiah> O_o
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| 09:07 | <johnny> warren, you running fedora10 ?
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| 09:07 | <warren> why would I?
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| 09:08 | <cliebow> ???
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| 09:08 | <johnny> why wouldn't you?
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| 09:09 | <warren> johnny: what's up?
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| 09:10 | <johnny> was just wondering if you were getting something like this the last 2 days
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| 09:10 | Error: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-glib.so.10 is needed by package gnome-packagekit-0.3.9-8.fc10.i386 (installed)
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| 09:10 | <warren> johnny: yes, somebody screwed up
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| 09:10 | <johnny> was it related to the dbus issue?
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| 09:10 | or something different?
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| 09:11 | <warren> johnny: I think so
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| 09:11 | I wonder why it isn't fixed yet
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| 09:11 | <johnny> ok .. no biggie
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| 09:11 | just wondered if i screwed something up or not
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| 09:26 | <scythelap> hi
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| 09:26 | <sbalneav> Hello
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| 09:26 | <scythelap> installed a ltsp server in school, 10 PCs work fine, but 5 ones have old ISA network cards with bootp, they don't find the dhcp server. what can I do?
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| 09:27 | <sbalneav> Do they have floppies? You could try booting with with either etherboot or gPXE
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| 09:27 | !gPXE
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| 09:27 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: Error: "gPXE" is not a valid command.
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| 09:27 | <sbalneav> Hmm, don't have that... hold on
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| 09:29 | ltspbot`: learn gPXE as the successor to etherboot. You can find it at: http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php
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| 09:29 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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| 09:29 | <sbalneav> !bootfloppy
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| 09:29 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "bootfloppy" is http://etherboot.anadex.de or ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy
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| 09:30 | <scythelap> tried it with etherboot, but than the system runs in a kernel panic
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> scythelap: either one of those should help you
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| 09:30 | <scythelap> ipconfig; eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
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| 09:30 | ipconfig: no devices to configure
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| 09:30 | /init: .: 1: Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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| 09:30 | [17179571.112000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> Try gPXE then.
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| 09:31 | <polytan> johnny, when ltsp-client try to start, it says that I don't have the "ip" command
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| 09:31 | <sbalneav> the bootfloppy at http://etherboot.anadex.de should work fine
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| 09:31 | <polytan> in which package can I find it ?
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| 09:31 | <scythelap> sbalneav: ok, I'll try that. thx
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| 09:31 | <johnny> polytan, oops
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| 09:31 | it's iproute2
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| 09:32 | <alkisg> scythelap: I think dhcpd.conf has some options to allow bootp clients... I don't know if they're enabled by default, but have a look at "man dhcpd.conf"
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| 09:32 | <polytan> you should add it
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| 09:32 | <scythelap> but for a non floppy solution, there is no way to configure the dhcp server to send an bootp signal?
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| 09:32 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey, do any i586 kernels have PAE versions available?
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| 09:32 | <scythelap> alkisg: ok, will do that
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> scythelap: and you may also put "logging" to dhcpd.conf, and then use syslog and even maybe wireshark to see what messages are send/received.
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| 09:33 | <polytan> you should add it in the ltsp-client ebuild
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| 09:33 | <johnny> polytan, i thought i had it :(
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| 09:33 | ok.. i'll add it
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| 09:33 | or better
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| 09:33 | fix it to work with ifconfig
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| 09:34 | <alkisg> scythelap: but the last time I tried bootp, dhcp3-server crashed without messages
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| 09:34 | <polytan> during the boot, it is also said that a few folders are missing : /var/cache/localapps and /var/luib/xkb)
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| 09:34 | <alkisg> scythelap: so I had to use dnsmasq...
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| 09:34 | <johnny> that shouldn't be nesscessary
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| 09:34 | /var/cache/localapps should.. but not xkb
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| 09:34 | afaict
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| 09:34 | <scythelap> alkisg: is it possible to do a workaround with dnsmasq?
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> scythelap: but I was thinking... if ipconfig doesn't see your NIC, you won't get far no matter how you boot the clients
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| 09:35 | <polytan> johnny, does something should happened afeter the boot instead of the prompt ? X login ?
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> you'll have to insert the module for your NIC to the kernel
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| 09:35 | <johnny> polytan, did ldm get installed?
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| 09:36 | <alkisg> scythelap: so maybe it's best that you try floppy or CD booting first, and when you get that working, then you look at bootp...
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| 09:36 | Which nic is it?
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| 09:37 | <polytan> johnny, yes
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| 09:38 | [I] x11-misc/ldm [1] (9999@09.12.2008): LTSP Display Manager
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| 09:38 | <scythelap> alkisg: different ones. 2x 3com 509 and 2x unknown intel
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| 09:38 | <polytan> (on the client chroot)
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| 09:38 | <nubae> or buy some non isa network cards, it will probably be less hassle
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| 09:38 | <alkisg> scythelap: is it possible to load a linux locally? so that you can do an lspci or something, to see if you can find which modules they need?
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| 09:39 | scythelap: yeap, nubae said the right thing! :)
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| 09:39 | <johnny> polytan, is ltsp-client-setup in boot
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| 09:39 | <polytan> johnny, there is no X starting at the begenning
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| 09:39 | <scythelap> alkisg: I think I will do that, if no easy solution will work ;)
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| 09:39 | <polytan> I should add xdm on the default boot level ?
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| 09:39 | <johnny> and ltsp-client in default
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| 09:40 | no.. don't add xdm
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| 09:40 | <scythelap> thx, for your new input. will try them. :) bye
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| 09:40 | <johnny> ltsp-client should be in the default level, and that should spawn xdm
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| 09:40 | <polytan> there is ltsp-client displayed in "rc-status" but no ltsp-client-config
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| 09:40 | <Appiah> johnny: do you have an up-to-date installation guide for ltsp on gentoo?
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| 09:41 | <johnny> one sec guys
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| 09:41 | one phone
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| 09:41 | <nubae> thank god not 2 :p
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| 09:41 | <warren> sbalneav: Gadi: Ryan52: I want to tag the current ldm, not because it is done, but because it WORKS
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| 09:42 | further changes to ldm are coming and I want to be able to easily identify a point where it was known to work
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> sounds good to me
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| 09:42 | as long as it works
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| 09:42 | :)
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| 09:42 | <rjune> !g
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| 09:42 | <ltspbot`> rjune: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:42 | <warren> Ryan52's changes are pretty awesome
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> cool
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| 09:42 | <warren> he puts us all to shame
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> I saw the gzillion emails
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| 09:42 | :)
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| 09:42 | busy bee
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| 09:43 | <Gadi> need to work on his grammar
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| 09:43 | but, hey
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| 09:43 | he's got mad skillz programming
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| 09:43 | :)
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| 09:43 | rjune: morning
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| 09:44 | <warren> Gadi: he has a slight en_lolcat accent
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| 09:44 | it is not improper
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| 09:44 | you are just intolerant
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> en_lolcat?
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| 09:44 | whats that?
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| 09:44 | <sbalneav> What changes to ldm?
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| 09:44 | <johnny> Appiah, there is no guide, because it isn't done
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| 09:44 | it does work, but it isn't done
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| 09:45 | <Appiah> Aight
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| 09:45 | <warren> Gadi: http://icanhascheezburger.com/
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| 09:45 | sbalneav: all the mail overflowed your mail server and crashed it
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| 09:45 | <Gadi> ah
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| 09:45 | <sbalneav> Mail where? In ltsp-develop?
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| 09:45 | <Gadi> the new ebonics
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| 09:45 | :)
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| 09:45 | <johnny> polytan, the bottom part of ltsp-build-client config does the adding
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| 09:45 | <warren> Gadi: http://lolfed.com/
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| 09:45 | <johnny> polytan,
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| 09:46 | <johnny> ltsp-client-setup in boot
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| 09:46 | ltsp-client in default
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| 09:46 | <polytan> johnny, I'm listening to you
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| 09:46 | <johnny> do you have both of those?
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| 09:46 | <polytan> no
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| 09:46 | just ltsp-client in default boot level
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| 09:46 | <johnny> are you sure ltsp-build-client finished?
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| 09:46 | the profile should have added those two
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| 09:46 | <polytan> but when I try to start ltsp-client-setup, it is said that I already have it stared
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| 09:47 | <johnny> it is
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| 09:47 | but not ltsp-client
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| 09:47 | add that to the chroot
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| 09:47 | and run rc-status
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| 09:47 | <polytan> johnny, yes, I sure that the script was succesfully finished (I mean there was no error)
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> sbalneav: are you subscribed to ldm-trunk?
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| 09:47 | <sbalneav> Well, I can write to it, isn't that the same thing?
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> sbalneav: not if you didnt get emails
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| 09:49 | :)
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> if you subscribe on lp, you can get emails when things are committed
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| 09:49 | <johnny> i prefer the rss feed
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| 09:49 | over email
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| 09:49 | <polytan> johnny, I already had ltsp-client-setup on boot and ltsp-client on defauklt
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> ryan52 had 20+ commits last night
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| 09:50 | <rjune> warren: you just found cheezeburger?
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| 09:50 | <warren> rjune: icanhaz
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| 09:50 | wow, the story on lolfed is pretty good
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| 09:50 | <Appiah> johnny: have you started on a guide?
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| 09:50 | <johnny> Appiah, no
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| 09:50 | the guide should be as simple as the ubuntu one
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| 09:51 | setup dhcp
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| 09:51 | emerge ltsp-server
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| 09:51 | ltsp-build-client
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| 09:51 | setup tftp
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| 09:51 | boot your clients
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| 09:51 | <Appiah> all that after you make a desktop ;)
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| 09:52 | <johnny> ?
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| 09:52 | <Appiah> j/k
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| 09:52 | See if a get some time tonight to start
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| 09:52 | <polytan> I really don't understand why I don't have any login screen (just the standard terminal prompt)
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| 09:52 | <Appiah> I'll write a "this is how I did it" guide
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| 09:52 | <johnny> polytan, it sounds like ldm didn't start
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| 09:52 | <rjune> warren: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/a359/
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| 09:52 | <polytan> do I have to lunch a daemon or a server on the server ?
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| 09:53 | <johnny> polytan, ldm should launch by ltsp-client
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| 09:53 | <polytan> how can I start it manually ?
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| 09:54 | <johnny> still on phone
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| 09:54 | hard to do both at the same time
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| 09:54 | <polytan> yes
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| 09:54 | see you later ! ;)
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| 10:02 | <warren> Ryan52: do you plan on updating the other things that could use ldm-question?
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| 10:02 | <Gadi> and can we get an ldm-message?
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| 10:03 | * Gadi is not always inquisitive | |
| 10:03 | <Gadi> (except that time)
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| 10:03 | <rjune> yes you are
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> am I?
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| 10:03 | really?
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| 10:03 | are u sure?
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| 10:03 | <warren> Gadi: what is ldm-message?
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| 10:03 | Gadi: you mean just "MESSAGE" click O
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| 10:03 | OK?
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> a zenity --msgbox replacement
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| 10:04 | yup
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| 10:04 | <warren> Gadi: ldm-question should probably be extended to handle that
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| 10:04 | and rename ldm-question
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> OK/Cancel yes/no doesnt always make sense
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| 10:04 | <warren> Or in the case of OpenOffice
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| 10:04 | * Gadi nods | |
| 10:04 | <warren> "Don't do what I want" "Do what I want"
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> right
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> "do or do not - there is no try"
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| 10:04 | --Yoda
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| 10:04 | <warren> get your ass sued
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| 10:04 | "Press F13 to Continue"
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| 10:06 | <vvinet> "Press the any key"
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| 10:06 | would be good
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| 10:06 | and everytime you press a key, it says "That is not THE any key"
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| 10:07 | <Ryan52> Gadi, ya, on my todo list.
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| 10:07 | warren, ya, on my todo list.
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| 10:07 | :)
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| 10:08 | <Gadi> Ryan52: just rewrite zenity :)
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| 10:08 | <warren> zenity pulls in 14 packages for me
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| 10:09 | <Gadi> oh, and if you could invent something round for the bottom of my car
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| 10:09 | that'd be cool
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| 10:09 | ;)
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| 10:09 | <Ryan52> hehe
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| 10:10 | <warren> Ryan52: dude, do you spend any time at like school?
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> warren: ur starting to sound creepy
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| 10:10 | :)
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| 10:11 | <warren> Gadi: haha
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| 10:11 | * Gadi checks the name of the channel he's in | |
| 10:11 | <Ryan52> warren, I just don't sleep much :)
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| 10:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: can you direct me towards the in-the-works ltsp-localapps whitelist?
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| 10:15 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: sigh, nothing that works
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| 10:16 | <johnny> polytan, if ltsp-client launch doesn't start it.. you need to figure out where it is dying. :)
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| 10:16 | i'm going to run build client myself, perhaps you should hold off until i get it working with the newest stuff
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| 10:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> johnny: was that pertaining to myself?
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| 10:16 | <johnny> no
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| 10:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> k
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> What's a usual way to backup a server? I mean, to be able to restore OS + data after total hard disk failure?
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| 10:47 | <sbalneav> alkisg: Personally, I never back up the OS
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> sbalneav: what about settings and staff?
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| 10:48 | <sbalneav> it's usually just as fast to re-install, but you could use good old dump/restore
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| 10:48 | alkisg: I back up my /etc, any files I modify, and /home
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> sbalneav: does this require booting from a live cd, or I can do it in a live system?
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| 10:48 | <johnny> alkisg, i like rdiff-backup
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> (*this = dump/restore)
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| 10:49 | (well, just dump! :))
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| 10:49 | <johnny> dumping can be done live
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| 10:49 | <sbalneav> alkisg: dump can happen from a live system
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| 10:49 | <johnny> as long as you exclude /proc, /sys, /dev
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| 10:49 | <sbalneav> for backup, I just use rsync to a backup box.
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| 10:49 | <johnny> rdiff-backup is like rsync with incremental
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> What about systemrescuecd, partimage etc? Are these used by experienced admins?
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| 10:50 | <johnny> sure
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| 10:50 | never partimage
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| 10:50 | but gparted/qparted
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| 10:51 | sysreccd includes that tho
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| 10:51 | <sbalneav> I use a rotating rsync script, that does a copy /w links, then uses rsync --link-dest
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> johnny: can gparted save the partition contents to an image?
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| 10:51 | <johnny> if i wanna do that, i just use dd
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| 10:51 | <sbalneav> I keep about 20 nights worth of backups for only about 2.0x the total amount of space I back up.
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> sbalneav: I'm looking for something a little easier, to advice the rest of the greek teachers! :) So no rotating scripts! :)
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| 10:51 | <johnny> but i never pack up partition images
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| 10:52 | only contents
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| 10:52 | since i never have consistant disk sizes
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| 10:52 | <johnny> images mean you get alot of empty space
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| 10:52 | alkisg, how about flyback
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| 10:52 | that's a gui thing
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> johnny: I think partimage doesn't write the free space..
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| 10:52 | <johnny> then it's not an image then
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| 10:52 | might as well just use rsync
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| 10:52 | * alkisg is googling for flyback... | |
| 10:53 | <alkisg> johnny: partimage does save the bootsector or even mbr, it just doesn't save the empty space
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| 10:53 | <johnny> ok
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| 10:54 | so it's a hack then
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| 10:54 | i can understand how they do it tho
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| 10:54 | even if the image isn't technically valid
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> Well, something like norton ghost I suppose...
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| 10:54 | <johnny> you have to store the actual sizes in the image
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| 10:54 | even if the size isn't there
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| 10:55 | <polytan> johnny, did you see something happening so ?
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| 10:55 | <johnny> err actual size number.. even if the empty space isn't there
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| 10:55 | which would still require consistant disks
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| 10:55 | polytan, no idea.. i haven't booted an image in awhile
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> johnny: It's possible to restore to smaller / larger disks
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| 10:55 | <johnny> polytan, i'm rebuilding one right now
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| 10:55 | <polytan> I think it is bvecause the system seems to be ro
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| 10:55 | <johnny> polytan, it should be
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| 10:56 | that's normal
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| 10:56 | <polytan> ok
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| 10:56 | actually, I have litlle error with the sound
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| 10:56 | <johnny> did you get ldm working?
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| 10:56 | <polytan> but I don't think the problem comes from that
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| 10:56 | johnny, how ?
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| 10:56 | <johnny> then how do you know there is a sound problem?
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| 10:56 | lol
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| 10:57 | if you don't have ldm working
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| 10:57 | <polytan> johnny, because it is writtent on the boot sequence
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> sbalneav, johnny: thanks! :)
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| 10:57 | <polytan> johnny, I have to do startx and next start ldm ?
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| 10:57 | <johnny> if it says something about RT_PRIO or whatnot, it isn't an error polytan
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| 10:57 | polytan, no!
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| 10:57 | i keep telling you
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| 10:58 | ltsp-client shoul start it
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| 10:58 | i just found a bug anyways
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| 10:59 | in my ltsp-server ebuild
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| 10:59 | <polytan> ok
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| 11:01 | <polytan> johnny, the nly debug message I have on the client boot process is about the sound$setrlimit : no permitted action
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| 11:02 | <johnny> that's normal
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| 11:02 | the pulseaudio devs haven't supressed it yet
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| 11:02 | <polytan> ok
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| 11:02 | <johnny> don't ask me why :(
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| 11:02 | <polytan> so I have nothing to give to you
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| 11:02 | <johnny> i can try to supress it, but it shows up in the logs on other systems
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| 11:02 | <polytan> doesn't really matter ;)
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| 11:02 | I just would like to have ldm and be able to connect to a session
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| 11:05 | and if I do "ldm" in a shell I've got a "glib-critical : g_strsplit: error assertion: 'string != NULL' failed
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| 11:06 | <polytan> it is 6pm here, I have to leave
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| 11:06 | see you tomorrow, hopefully ;)
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| 11:06 | <sbalneav> polytan: you won't be able to start it that way
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| 11:09 | <johnny> it should error out nicer tho
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| 11:09 | so, question..
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| 11:09 | how does ldminfod get used now?
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| 11:09 | directly by ssh? no more xinetd or inetd?
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| 11:12 | <johnny> oh.. i found it
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| 11:12 | it still can use xinetd
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| 11:13 | uggh.. but taht emans i need it on both the client, and the server
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| 11:15 | WHY is a man page in a doc directory :(
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| 11:55 | <_UsUrPeR_> Anyone know how to change the K12 LTSP login screen in F9?
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| 12:03 | <Appiah> hey johnny , when I asked you before you had some kind of quickstart config ?
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| 12:05 | <johnny> huh?
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| 12:05 | quickstart is a program
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| 12:05 | <Appiah> yes
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| 12:05 | <johnny> in the vein of redhat's kickstart
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| 12:06 | my ltsp stuff relies upon it (for now)
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| 12:06 | <Appiah> oki
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| 12:06 | <johnny> ltsp-build-client is just a wrapper around passing specific ENV vars to quickstart
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| 12:06 | <Appiah> oh
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| 12:07 | <johnny> since the author of quickstart won't let me add some parameters i want :(
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| 12:07 | <Appiah> =/
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| 12:07 | <johnny> there are only a few things that i don't do in the quickstart profile. and i should probably look back at them
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| 12:07 | i haven't decided whther i care about serial console support at all
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| 12:08 | i might just drop it
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| 12:08 | <ogra> you are so ignorant ...
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| 12:09 | all these important serial console ltsp users ... just left out on gentoo
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| 12:10 | <johnny> lol
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| 12:11 | that means attaching to the client via serial console right?
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| 12:11 | that's what it looked like to me ..
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| 12:11 | maybe i got it wrong
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| 12:11 | ogra, do you know of anybody who actually uses it?
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| 12:11 | i bet only debian users use it
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| 12:11 | lol
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| 12:11 | silly crusty *nix geeks
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| 12:12 | only reason i can think of for serial console would be for stuff that happens before networking.. like a kernel panic
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| 12:13 | anything else .. seems like netconsole could handle..
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| 12:13 | i think i'll just drop serial console altogether then
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| 12:13 | <ogra> you will loose your userbase with that attitude ... they would all switch to a distro that supports serial consoles by default ... like ... umm ... currently none out of the box
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| 12:14 | yeah,drop it
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| 12:14 | <sutula> _UsUrPeR_: Don't know if anyone answered you...for Debian-based ltsp 5, I've modified files in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ltsp, specifically bg.png and logo.png; YMMV
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| 12:15 | <ogra> though debian and ubuntu support it (no idea about RH) you need to explicitly enable it in upstart
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| 12:15 | and rebuild the image in ubuntu
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| 12:18 | <johnny> so.. how is ldm packages for you now ogra ?
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| 12:18 | packaged*
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| 12:19 | now that ldminfod is out of ltsp-trunk
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| 12:19 | * johnny tries to imagine the benefit of this move | |
| 12:19 | <johnny> don't see how pacakging is any harder
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| 12:19 | with it inside of ltsp-server ..
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| 12:26 | <ogra> johnny: no idea, my working device this week only has a 4.5" screen and a thumb kbd
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| 12:26 | * ogra is at UDS | |
| 12:29 | <ogra> well, with the move you can have application servers that dont have ltsp-server i nstalled
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| 12:30 | but still have sesssion and alnguage info from the server
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| 12:30 | <nubae> anyone looked at the new creative paper alternative, the kindle?
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| 12:31 | ah, its amazon's, not creative
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| 12:35 | <johnny> ogra, it's not like you couldn' t hae an ldminfo package that pulled from ltsp-server
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| 12:36 | maybe it should be called ltsp-info instead of ldminfo..
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| 12:36 | as you could say the same about thing about nbdswapd
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| 12:36 | <ogra> but it only contains ldminfo
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| 12:37 | and only provides i nfo for ldm
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| 12:37 | <johnny> i'm going to need to check out the ldm src anyways :(
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| 12:38 | <ogra> with .dmrc support ldminfo loses importance anyway
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| 12:40 | <warren> .dmrc could tell you what to eat for breakast
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| 12:40 | or which deity to pray to
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| 12:40 | etc.
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| 12:41 | <ogra> well, you will actually only use ldminfo at first login
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| 12:42 | unless you change anything .dmrc should be used
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| 12:44 | * ogra relocates to the other google building ... my feet ache, its so many people they had to spread us over multiple buildings ... | |
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| 12:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> sutula: thank you
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| 13:25 | <warren> Ryan52: Gadi: ogra: i'm tagging ldm-trunk
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| 13:26 | it is not done, but it works
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| 13:28 | * Gadi thought we started the day with that | |
| 13:28 | <warren> I'm really slow
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| 13:28 | <Gadi> (10:41:14 AM) warren: sbalneav: Gadi: Ryan52: I want to tag the current ldm, not because it is done, but because it WORKS
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| 13:28 | hehe
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| 13:29 | <warren> Gadi: The front gate of my high school had a "Slow Children" sign. I didn't get it until my senior year.
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| 13:29 | <Gadi> lol
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| 13:29 | * Gadi makes that joke all the time | |
| 13:29 | <warren> in my case it is true
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| 13:30 | <Gadi> warren: your charm and grace more than make up for it
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| 13:30 | :)
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| 13:30 | <warren> Gadi: ouch =)
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| 13:31 | <ogra> warren: fine with me
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> my child beat up your honor student
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| 13:31 | :)
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| 13:36 | <polytan_> hi back
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| 13:37 | <johnny> polytan, it seems that i need to create an ebuild for ldminfo
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| 13:37 | err ldminfod
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| 13:37 | <polytan> johnny, what happens actually ?
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| 13:38 | <johnny> what happens. is that we need ldminfod
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| 13:38 | and we don't have it anymore
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| 13:38 | it got moved from ltsp-trunk, into ldm
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| 13:38 | and the ldm ebuild does not install to the server, and has no logic to do antying with ldminfod
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| 13:39 | <johnny> so.. we need another ebuild for ldminfod
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| 13:41 | <polytan> ok
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| 13:41 | I understand
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| 13:41 | I can work on it tommorrow if you want
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| 13:42 | where can we find sources for ldminfo ?
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| 13:42 | <johnny> if you want to create the ldminfod ebuild. that'd be great altho it must install AFTER ltsp-server
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| 13:42 | <polytan> a direct download I mean
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| 13:42 | <johnny> it is only available via bzr
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| 13:43 | <polytan> can we do a source tarball and upload it somewhere ?
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| 13:43 | <johnny> but where..
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| 13:43 | we have no official place to upload it to
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| 13:43 | i don't want to host it
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| 13:43 | <polytan> neither me
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| 13:43 | on gentoo server ?
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| 13:44 | <johnny> only devs can do that
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| 13:44 | we can get it mirrored tho
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| 13:44 | once it is on the gentoo servers
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| 13:44 | <polytan> I'm far from being a dev ;)
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| 13:44 | <johnny> but that will not happen until it is in the tree
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| 13:44 | do you have a problem using bzr?
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| 13:44 | i do not
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| 13:44 | i think it is fine until we move to tree
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| 13:45 | <polytan> yes
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| 13:45 | <johnny> we will have tarballs then
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| 13:45 | <polytan> there is a special dev for ldminfo or it it IN the ltsp-server repo ?
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| 13:45 | <johnny> it is ldm-trunk
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| 13:45 | <polytan> s/special dev/special repository
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| 13:46 | <johnny> along with the ldm client implementation
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| 13:46 | <polytan> I've never used bzr
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| 13:46 | neither created ebuild
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| 13:46 | but I can try tomorrow
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| 13:46 | <johnny> the 2nd is more important :)
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| 13:46 | the ebuild does the bzr stuff nicely
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| 13:46 | i can probablyc reate an ebuild quickly
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| 13:47 | <polytan> and I can test it for you
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| 13:48 | what time is it at NY ?
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| 13:56 | <Gadi> 2:56PM
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| 13:57 | and all's well
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| 14:00 | <polytan> 5h between us
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| 14:03 | <johnny> polytan, ebuild created, testing now
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| 14:03 | <dberkholz> johnny: could make a google code project
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| 14:04 | although i still think tarballs belong on ltsp.org
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| 14:07 | <johnny> dberkholz, that's my opinion :(
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| 14:07 | not theirs
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| 14:07 | dberkholz, i try to avoid google services as much as feasibly possible
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| 14:08 | not very feasible.. but every little bit counts..
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| 14:08 | <polytan> how does the other without this package ldminfo ?
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| 14:08 | <johnny> ebuild is done
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| 14:08 | <polytan> how does ubuntu use it ?
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| 14:08 | <dberkholz> sourceforge sucks and also runs proprietary software..
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| 14:08 | <polytan> ko
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| 14:08 | ok
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| 14:08 | <dberkholz> there's berlios i guess
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| 14:08 | <johnny> dberkholz, it's not proprietary software that is the problem to me
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| 14:09 | sf does suck for many other reasons tho :)
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| 14:09 | polytan, ubuntu hasn't updated their packages since this move
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| 14:09 | polytan, you can install ldminfod
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| 14:10 | but you need to edit /etc/xinetd.d/ldminfod
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| 14:10 | and set disable = yes to disable = no
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| 14:10 | after installation
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| 14:11 | polytan, i'm doing a built, i'll let you know what happens
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| 14:19 | <polytan> ok
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| 14:21 | <polytan> I'm eating my dinner (asparagus with salmon and goat cheese on prawns)
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| 14:21 | :)
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| 14:44 | <sbalneav> Mmmm goat cheese
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| 15:38 | <vagrantc> ldm session and language selection seems to be working.
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| 15:39 | i encountered a small glitch, if Session=/path/to/bin rather than session names, it treated it as if it was nothing...
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| 15:58 | <warren> oh cool
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| 15:59 | with the new xorg.conf mangling stuff, I can autodetect geode and add the xorg.conf workaround
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| 16:01 | <ogra> ??
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| 16:01 | did someone replacde configure-x.sh ?
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| 16:02 | or are you talking about the python-x-kit stuff ?
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| 16:03 | <stgraber> How stable is ltsp-trunk at the moment ? Can I tag it so I can update the package in Ubuntu ?
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| 16:03 | ogra: I did :)
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| 16:04 | <ogra> sweet
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| 16:04 | <stgraber> ogra: we have screen-session.d that's run before X starts
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| 16:04 | so you can do any change you'd like here
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| 16:05 | <ogra> in Xsession.d on the client?
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| 16:05 | <stgraber> /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/
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| 16:05 | S* are started before the screen.d call and K* after
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| 16:05 | <ogra> hmm, cant we drop that into the upstream xsession dir ?
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| 16:06 | <stgraber> no, we're talking about modifying xorg.conf or loading some environement variables (as ltsp-cluster)
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| 16:07 | <ogra> still, would appear cleaner to me to just rely on upstream for that
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| 16:08 | <ogra> did you talk to bryce about xkit ?
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| 16:08 | <stgraber> vagrantc: I just looked at the changelog and you own all the non-distro specific changes since the last release, do you consider ltsp-trunk ready for taging ?
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| 16:08 | <ogra> it should exactly provide what you need
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| 16:09 | <polytan> johnny, does the client starts ldm with the new package installed on the server ?
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| 16:09 | <johnny> i have no idea
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| 16:09 | <stgraber> ogra: well, if we are to use python and python-xkit it'd still have to be started from somewhere and that somewhere would be screen-session.d
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| 16:09 | <johnny> i'm almost ready for testing
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| 16:09 | rebuilding the kernel
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| 16:10 | <ogra> i dont think you need to specifically start it, it gets run by x
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| 16:10 | <johnny> polytan, i'll let you know when that happens
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| 16:10 | <ogra> but timo or bryce could explain better
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| 16:10 | are you in the plenary room ?
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| 16:11 | <stgraber> X-Kit is library for the manipulation of the xorg.conf.
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| 16:11 | ogra: yep
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| 16:11 | <ogra> i'm sitting in the back next to timo
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| 16:11 | <vagrantc> stgraber: i *think* it's taggable, but i haven't actually tested with full-on-packages.
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| 16:12 | <warren> stgraber: I plan on doing more changes probably tomorrow, but nothing stops you from tagging it now.
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| 16:12 | <vagrantc> stgraber: also, you going to re-sync ltspfs?
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| 16:12 | <stgraber> warren: fedora specifc or ltsp-wide ?
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| 16:12 | <warren> stgraber: did you review gadi's ldm branch?
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| 16:12 | stgraber: fedora
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| 16:12 | <polytan> johnny, why is it so long ??
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| 16:13 | I mean to compile the kernel, etc
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| 16:13 | <stgraber> vagrantc: yeah, I'll have a look at what needs to be done but yeah it'll be synced
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> stgraber: oh, gadi has some unmerged changes to the screen-session.d stuff that are probably worth considering.
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| 16:13 | <johnny> why is what so long?
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| 16:14 | <stgraber> ogra: aren't we supposed to auto-sync ?
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| 16:14 | <warren> We got a 16 core hyperthreading (32 processors show up) box with 64GB of RAM here. The entire kernel source in ramdisk, the entire kernel build takes less than 2 minutes.
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| 16:14 | <stgraber> vagrantc: oh, he implemented the remaining part of it ? I'll have a look
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| 16:15 | <johnny> polytan, it takes me about half hour to build the kernel on my computer
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| 16:15 | <polytan> :/
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| 16:15 | <stgraber> ogra: why hasn't ltspfs be synced ? I don't see it on merges.u.c ...
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| 16:15 | <vagrantc> stgraber: maybe because it's in experimental?
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| 16:16 | <warren> i'm going home, I don't feel well
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| 16:20 | <vagrantc> uploading ldm 2.0.21-1 to debian experimental...
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| 17:04 | <Aggro> Is there some easy way to use old laptop with pcmcia nework adapter as an LTSP client?
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| 17:05 | Is there some way to use old laptop with pcmcia network adapter as an LTSP client?
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| 17:31 | <vagrantc> Aggro: the short answer is no.
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| 17:32 | Aggro: the long answer is: of course.
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| 17:32 | <Aggro> vagrantc: I've been reading and searching, so what is the long answer?
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| 17:32 | (I have found only "pcmcia is not supported")
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| 17:33 | <vagrantc> Aggro: basically, you'll probably have to: store the kernel on a local boot media, such as a hard drive or usb stick. you'll probably also have to hack the initramfs to support it.
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| 17:34 | <Aggro> vagrantc: I actually have Xubuntu on it already. I would prefer not to boot it as it is so slow, but would it be easy to use it as LTSP after it has booted?
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| 17:35 | <vagrantc> Aggro: that's not really LTSP then, that's just X.
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| 17:36 | <Aggro> vagrantc: So I could use the ltsp server from it?
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| 17:36 | <vagrantc> Aggro: it probably wouldn't be absurdly difficult... mainly just installing ldm and ltspfsd to the laptop ... and writing an init script to boot them.
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| 17:36 | <vagrantc> Aggro: the hard part to that would be writing the init script.
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| 17:37 | <Aggro> So how are they booted? /etc/init.d/ldm start and save for the other?
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| 17:38 | <vagrantc> ?
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| 17:38 | <Aggro> "and writing an init script to boot them."
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| 17:39 | ops..
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| 17:39 | So how are they booted? /etc/init.d/ldm start and _same_ for the other?
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| 17:39 | <vagrantc> no, /etc/init.d/ldm doesn't exist.
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| 17:39 | neither does ltspfsd.
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| 17:39 | well, ltspfsd will actually handle itself ... and probably do other damage to your system.
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| 17:40 | it's messy, ugly, poorly documented, not well tested, and not something i would recommend doing.
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| 17:40 | <Aggro> okay... So is there some other way I could use my old laptop as something more fast than what it is now?
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| 17:41 | I can access directly to the server, so doesn't have to be ltsp at all ;)
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| 17:42 | (I already have other computer as ltsp client, which is why I have the ltsp server, but it had pci network adapter so it was easy)
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| 17:45 | Have to sleep I suppose. Thanks for your time. If you have anything else, I will read that tomorrow.
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| 18:17 | <maicod> hi the server from where my client is booting (pxe/tftpboot/nfs) its last good log entry and the next first error log entry are:
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| 18:17 | rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.3.8:800 for /clients/thincl (/clients/thincl)
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| 18:17 | PAM_pwdb[1584]: authentication failure; (uid=0) -> root for sshd service
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| 18:18 | did I forget something ?
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| 18:23 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: what do you mean a glitch?
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| 18:23 | or is that not my stuff you're talking about?
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| 18:26 | it looks like you're talking about my stuff.../path/to/bin isn't valid, so it is not accepted...
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| 18:27 | see http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en#userconfig
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| 18:29 | vagrantc: do bzr commits for the debian packaging go somewhere? I could swear that I'm signed up for "cvs" in the PTS for ldm..
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| 19:31 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 19:31 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 22:52 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: fyi, the part in http://pastebot.ltsp.org/134 where you do "loginfo(ldm.session);
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| 22:52 | " is bad security wise.
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| 22:52 | you should do: loginfo("%s", ldm.session);
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| 22:52 | * Ryan52 is on a security thing tonight | |
| 22:53 | <Ryan52> and I was grepping irc logs for something and accidently stumbled on that :p
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