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Channel log from 23 March 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:48 | <warren> Ryan52: btw, you already applying to a different google soc project?
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| 01:49 | Ryan52: #instantmirror (for links)... project with huge potential
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| 01:49 | <Ryan52> warren: I can't apply. you have to be 18.
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| 01:50 | <warren> Ryan52: really!?
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| 01:50 | damn
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| 01:50 | Ryan52: do you have to be 18 to be a mentor? =)
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| 01:50 | <Ryan52> hahaha
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| 01:51 | <warren> Ryan52: you're a better programmer than all of the current morons who are competing for that position =(
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| 01:54 | <Ryan52> that's pretty sad then. :P
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| 04:33 | <EXP__> I got this error when updating chroot: http://pastebin.com/m5fce66e4
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| 04:34 | anyone can help
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| 04:55 | <EXP__> anyone here?
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| 04:57 | <Appiah> did you mount proc?
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| 05:07 | <zylogue> greetings. I have a need of setting up a terminal server. I am looking for documents that detail how to for centOS
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| 05:07 | <zylogue> as the host OS. can anyone point me in a useful direction?
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| 05:18 | <din_os> hi, is there a way of finding out the ip's of connected clients? (ltsp 5, hardy)
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| 05:43 | <eric__> Hi.
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| 05:43 | I've installed an LTSP Server with NX connexion (scripts screen.d found on the net)
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| 05:44 | And Iwrote scripts to make local drives work in this case.
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| 05:44 | If your interested to publish them somewhere with LTSP documentation, I can send them to you.
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| 05:45 | <cyberorg> eric__, hi, send them over on ltsp-developer mailing list :)
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| 05:45 | <eric__> OK, how can I make that ?
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| 05:46 | <cyberorg> eric__, see https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-developer
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| 05:47 | <eric__> Ok thanks... I do that
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| 07:49 | <ogra> warren, http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/knowledge/can-red-hat-linux-make-the-desktop-pay--428 "Fedora Long Term Support" releases ... ? heh
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| 08:07 | <cyberorg> ogra, sounds very much like nomad :)
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| 08:08 | <ogra> nomad uses the ubuntu LTS release structure ?
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| 08:10 | <cyberorg> ogra, SLED 11 is 7 year support, the idea is to virtualize it on SLES and provide experience of using normal desktop remotely
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| 08:11 | <maginot> Good morning. Can anyone explain why is my passwd authentication in the client taking about 15 to 20 seconds to validate? Im testing with a direct cable (no switch) using a gigabit card in both client and server. My ltsp version is 5 and im on ubuntu 8.10
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| 08:12 | <ogra> cyberorg, you dont understand :)
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| 08:17 | cyberorg, ubuntu lts means making a *free* os available for a long term period and promising support and updates ... nothing to do with any enterprise crap ... redhat copying that scheme for their free variant (after copying plenty of other stuff for it like the 6month release cycle, community handling etc from ubuntu ...) was the part thats funny here
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| 08:18 | * ogra waits for suse announcing opensuse LTS now :) | |
| 08:18 | <cyberorg> ah ok, opensuse is supported for 2 years only
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| 08:18 | <ogra> *yet* ;)
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| 08:19 | <cyberorg> i dont see opensuse LTS coming anytime soon officially, but via build service community can keep supporting stuff indefinitly
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| 08:21 | <maginot> anyone can help me with the above problem Im having?
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| 08:59 | <maginot> ... its now taking 22 seconds to validate the password that the user inputs in the client ldm login screen... im using ubuntu 8.10 ltsp5 (installed using apt-get)
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| 09:01 | <Gadi> maginot: do you have remote logging enabled?
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| 09:03 | <maginot> Gadi, Well .. can you explain me what remote logging are you asking?
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| 09:04 | <Gadi> by default, if you set the server's syslog to accept remote connections, the thin client will flood the network with syslog messages from the client
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| 09:04 | this can make other services take longer
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| 09:04 | that's one thing to look at
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| 09:04 | another would be DNS
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| 09:05 | if hostname resolution takes a while on your server, then many services will run slower from machines for which there is no DNS lookup
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| 09:14 | <maginot> Gadi, I'm testing the server without any connecter beyond the client, so its the server connected to the client after a default ubuntu install (I recompiled the kernel to support 32gb of memory) and a default ltsp install .... I think the only thing that you quoted that may causing problems is DNS.. I will take a look
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| 09:26 | <maginot> Gadi, looks like removing dns search domain made the client password validate in about ~6 seconds
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| 09:27 | <maginot> and now other question, anyidea why Shutdown isnt working?
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| 09:50 | <maginot> what happened to ltspinfo ? isnt available anymore?
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> maginot: I believe there is a bug in shutdown from LDM where it does not work after a logout
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| 09:51 | also, ltspinfo was insecure, so it was not included in LTSP5
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| 09:51 | <maginot> Gadi, so how do the client must proceed to shutdown the client?
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| 09:51 | <Lumiere> just turn it off?
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> power button
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| 09:51 | <maginot> hMmm
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| 09:52 | <Lumiere> maginot: there's nothing stored on the clients
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| 09:52 | so there's nothing to be damaged if you turn it off
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| 09:53 | <maginot> Lumiere, sorry for the ignorance here, is that Im used to ltsp5 on ubuntu 7.10 and there the client usualy shutdown the client... now for what you are tell me this option is broken an then he must power off the box directly ?
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| 09:54 | <Gadi> maginot: correct. Instead of a click of the mouse, its a push of a button
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| 09:54 | until the bug is fixed
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| 09:55 | if you would like to help fix/test a fix for the bug, I am happy to help you resolve it so we can fix it upstream
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| 09:55 | :)
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| 09:57 | <maginot> Gadi, well, here I have already a production ltsp working for 35 clients, what Im doing know is testing and Fixing any problem that could happen with ltsp on 8.10 (I was hoping to test with ubuntu 9.04) so if I can help you anyway test or fix any bug of ltsp I must say that you can count on me anytime
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| 09:57 | <Gadi> excellent!
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| 09:57 | usually the little bugs don't get fixed for lack of testers
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| 09:58 | <maginot> Gadi, we are using a HP Proliant ML350 - 2 x Quad Xeon 2.33Ghz with 32GB of memory
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| 09:58 | and if helps we have a 1gb network backbone connection
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| 09:59 | * Lumiere drools on maginot's server | |
| 10:00 | <maginot> and Im very interest about working together helping with what I can... and if you need I can garantee you an access user so you can help remotly on the tests
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| 10:01 | <evilx> I have a question, is there away to make it so when ltsp users are going to websites internally it uses their actual machine ip and not the machine of the ltsp server?
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| 10:02 | <maginot> please, if you have interest about using our server for further test call me in pvt so I could tell more about who Im and what our organization do
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| 10:02 | =)
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> evilx: run firefox as a local app
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| 10:04 | <evilx> ?
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> ltsp-localapps firefox
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| 10:04 | <evilx> huh, I didnt know about that
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> (you need to install firefox and plugins in the chroot first)
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| 10:05 | then, firefox will run locally on the thin client
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| 10:05 | rather than on the server
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| 10:05 | <evilx> okay, ill check that out thanks
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| 10:05 | <Gadi> np
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| 10:05 | requires pretty recent LTSP
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| 10:05 | <evilx> I was wondering if that was possible or not.
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| 10:05 | I have 5 installed
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| 10:05 | <Gadi> what distro?
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| 10:06 | <evilx> ubuntu 8.10 i think
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| 10:06 | <Gadi> evilx: ok. should be good then
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| 10:06 | * Gadi thanks maginot for offer to help | |
| 10:08 | <evilx> i just set LTSP-LOCALAPPS in lts.conf?
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| 10:08 | <Gadi> no. LOCAL_APPS=True
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| 10:08 | (but that should be default)
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| 10:09 | you will need to install firefox in the chroot and reroll the image
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| 10:09 | <evilx> i have firefox installed in the chroot already
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| 10:09 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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| 10:10 | there is a script on the server in the doc folder called ltsp-localapps
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| 10:10 | that you can copy to /usr/bin
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| 10:10 | and use as a way to launch local firefox
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| 10:10 | alternatively, if you have a new enough version of LTSP in there, you can set:
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| 10:10 | LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True
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| 10:10 | and optionally:
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| 10:11 | LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS=firefox
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| 10:12 | those should replace the menu items for firefox to the local app firefox
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| 10:52 | <panteo> hello!Please somebody tell me, how I can make the modfication of default gnome desktop for PXE-boot clients? I try "sabayon", but only server usual user are affected, not the PXE-clients
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| 10:55 | <evilx> Gadi, I dont see anything in docs called ltsp-localapps
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| 10:56 | <evilx> i found ltsp-localapps executeable though
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| 10:56 | <Gadi> right, thst
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| 10:56 | *that
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| 10:57 | <evilx> yeah, but wish I could get the doc on how it used
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> open a terminal and type: ltsp-localapps "<executable>"
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| 10:57 | or read the script
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| 10:57 | <evilx> so is that just it, i have ltsp-localapps execute the application
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> its a simple shell script
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| 10:58 | <evilx> ill give it a whirl and see what happens
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| 11:18 | <epsas> vagrantcwiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto is an immutable page
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| 11:18 | vagrantc - err, http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto is an immutable page
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| 11:19 | <vagrantc> epsas: are you logged in?
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| 11:20 | i think all pages are immutable for anonymous users
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| 11:20 | <epsas> ahhh 0- i reset my password, but didn't log in
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| 11:22 | <epsas> for section 3: "Configure /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" I want to add "Include the ltsp dhcpd.conf file"
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| 11:22 | <vagrantc> epsas: ah yes! that would be great.
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| 11:22 | since that's exactly what i tend to do and recommend... :)
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| 11:36 | <ogra> yay, my favorite logo made the first place
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| 11:38 | <epsas> where can I see the competition?
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| 11:38 | <ogra> http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/ltspContestWinners.html
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| 11:38 | its linked from the results page
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| 11:42 | <epsas> excellence!!!
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| 11:45 | <laga> sweet
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| 11:48 | <Ahmuck> looks like windows
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| 11:49 | windows butterfly
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| 11:49 | though so does the diskless workstation logo
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| 11:50 | <epsas> it looks a lot like the diskless workstation logo ;)
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| 11:50 | <Ahmuck> nonetheless, congratulations
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| 11:51 | <epsas> #54 is pretty gangster gangster
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| 11:53 | <maginot> by default in 8.10 the lts.conf file is not being created at /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 ?
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| 11:57 | <Lns> Ahmuck: I do agree, though I didn't think of that until you said so =) http://www.bitlaw.com/images/msn_butterfly.jpg
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| 11:57 | <Ahmuck> ogras is the best though
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| 11:57 | no graphic artists signed up ?
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| 11:59 | <Lns> Congrats to the new ltsp logo and all here =) Are we allowed to use the logo on our site referring to ltsp?
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| 12:07 | <humbolt> Does anybody know how to make Digicams accessible plugged in via USB on an LTSP thin client (removable disk protocol).
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| 12:07 | It does seem like LTSP does not recognize SD card readers.
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| 12:08 | I mean the internal ones the Camera does provide.
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| 12:08 | <Skarmeth> hey guy's
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| 12:09 | anyone here using ltsp 5 with fedora 9?
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| 12:10 | I installed ltsp-server in a F9 system and when the thin client tries to boot up, it fail with a error message
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| 12:10 | <Lns> humbolt: do the cams have *any* special software requirements to see as a removable device? if not, you should be fine afaik. As long as you can plug in a USB thumbdrive, i don't see why it wouldn't work
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| 12:10 | <Ryan52> Skarmeth: and that error message is?
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| 12:10 | <Skarmeth> that says mount was not found
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| 12:10 | <humbolt> Lns: no, they appear as removable disk (not this p-t-p protocol, or whatever it is called)
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| 12:11 | <Skarmeth> I made a copy of initrd to another system, ungzipped it, then un-cpio it and searched for mount and I don't found it
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| 12:11 | <Lns> humbolt: are you able to see "normal" usb thumb drives?
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| 12:11 | <humbolt> yes
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| 12:11 | <Lns> humbolt: hmm
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| 12:11 | <humbolt> yes
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| 12:11 | that's what I thought
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| 12:12 | <Lns> humbolt: have you taken the SD out of the cam and put it in a card reader?
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| 12:12 | <humbolt> I guess the daemon on the client is not starting connections to the client on these kinds of devices
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| 12:12 | as they clearly come up as sd media
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| 12:12 | <Lns> (my own Nokia camera phone shows up without problems on my ltsp client in ubuntu)
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| 12:13 | <humbolt> really
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| 12:13 | hmm
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| 12:13 | <Lns> humbolt: yeah - but the internal memory usually doesn't, but I don't store anything on that so i never worried about it
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| 12:13 | <humbolt> works only with hotplugged media, I guess.
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| 12:14 | but good to know already, that it comes up on your client
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| 12:14 | <Lns> humbolt: yeah.. but you know, every device is probably unique.. does it come up on the server?
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| 12:17 | <humbolt> I have to check
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| 12:17 | Have not had it in my hands personally yet
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| 12:18 | <Lns> humbolt: I'd do that first to make sure it shows up on a non-TC
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| 12:18 | then yo ucan go from there
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| 12:19 | <humbolt> Yes
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| 12:19 | Thing is,
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| 12:20 | it does not even show up in the clients own SD cardreader. And this one should work under linux as the client is an eee box.
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| 12:21 | <Lns> humbolt: you mean when the eee is booted to local install?
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| 12:21 | <humbolt> with the original linux software on it, it works
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| 12:22 | <Lns> humbolt: well the cam has its own little comm protocol which may or may not be standard
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| 12:22 | so i'd first make sure it works in the ltsp server
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| 12:22 | from the cam
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| 12:22 | <humbolt> yes, I'll do that
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| 12:23 | tnx
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| 12:23 | <Lns> np, good luck =)
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| 12:24 | LTSP servers don't have a standard way of knowing what TCs are connected to it, right? I mean, an LTSP specific "These are thin clients, these are TC users logged in", etc? right?
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| 12:26 | <humbolt> I don't know
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| 12:26 | actually there must be a way
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| 12:27 | as the thin-client-manager does know
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| 12:29 | <Lns> I had an idea the other day that might or might not be a good idea(tm), involving a default ssh tunnel being established from TC to SERVER when it's booted, for command/control purposes from the server console itself
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| 12:29 | so admins can log into TCs remotely, start programs, get a VNC connection, shut down, blah blah blah
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| 12:30 | without having to use an ssh server on the TC
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| 12:30 | <humbolt> as far as I know ldm does create a tunnel
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| 12:30 | but maybe only after login
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| 12:30 | or for login
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| 12:30 | I have to less insight on that
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| 12:30 | <Lns> that's what i'm not sure about either
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| 12:30 | <humbolt> so, have fun reading the code
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| 12:31 | <Lns> IMHO LTSP is at the point to where we should start thinking about integrating real management tools such as this
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| 12:31 | humbolt: ;)
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| 12:32 | <humbolt> check out the ltsp manager, don't know the exact name. Is a package on ubuntu. it does already provide the vnc stuff!
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| 12:33 | <Lns> It seems that iTalc would take care of a lot of this, but i wasn't sure if it was easy/feasable to use it in a not-logged-in workstation or whatnot..i need to go read the docs again
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| 12:36 | <Lns> yeah.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc is probably the best bet for this =) what would be really cool is to pair that up with some ltsp/DE specific tweaking functionality such as what sabayon/pessulus tries to do
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| 12:38 | <ogra> Lns, ps ax|grep LTSP_CLIENT :)
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| 12:39 | or better ps aux|grep LTSP_CLIENT
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| 12:39 | LTSP_CLIENT is set for every user on login and shows up in the ssh command
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| 12:39 | <Lns> ogra: oooo :)
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| 12:40 | <ogra> (unless that changes since i looked last)
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| 12:40 | <Lns> leave it to ogra to point out the obvious to those searching for a cryptic answer!! hehe
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| 12:43 | <stgraber> ogra: didn't change
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| 12:43 | <Lns> ogra: ok, but this doesn't work for non-logged-in users
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| 12:43 | <ogra> indeed
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| 12:43 | you asked for: an LTSP specific "These are thin clients, these are TC users logged in"
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| 12:44 | for non logged in users you wont get login data indeed :P
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| 12:44 | <Lns> ogra: right.. so can this be accomplished with what's already going on in the chroot/ldm? as in, "this is a booted TC but sitting at ldm" ?
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| 12:45 | <CAN-o-SPAM> lw
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| 12:45 | <Lns> i.e. w/o arp grepping, as this could include routers, other arp cache peers, etc
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| 12:45 | CAN-o-SPAM: congrats on the new logo!
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| 12:45 | <ogra> look at the nbd connections
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| 12:46 | and compare them with the ps output ...
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| 12:46 | the ps should also have the client IP in it ...
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| 12:47 | <Lns> mmkay
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| 12:49 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Lns: thanks.
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| 12:50 | <maginot> LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS=firefox did not make my firefox in the menu item open with ltsp-localapps
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| 12:51 | if I run manualy ltps-localapps firefox it open localy
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| 13:27 | <warren> where is alex...
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| 13:40 | <maginot> anyone had success instaling lsb on chroot ?
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| 13:41 | I need to execute acroread as localapp but for this I must have ld-linux-2.so or lsb
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| 13:47 | <Lns> maginot: I don't know about acroread, just curious though, why not use evince?
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| 13:51 | <ogra> didnt maginot run ubuntu ? acroread is in the medibuntu repos for 8.10
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| 13:51 | http://packages.medibuntu.org/intrepid/index.html at least indicates so
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| 13:52 | <maginot> Hmmm okay...
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| 13:53 | Lns, Im not using evince because we have some pdf files that uses barcode and evince crashs
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| 13:53 | but I was able to run acroread localy already
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| 13:53 | =)
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| 13:54 | the only thing I still not able to do is run parameters like "ltsp-localapps acroread somepdf.pdf"
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| 13:55 | <ogra> stgraber, oh, while i see maginot saying that, a mime overlay for localapps would rock hard :) (so that gnome-open would actually open pdfs with the loaclapp)
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| 13:55 | <maginot> now the most important thing that must work is j2re 1.4.2.06 lets see if works and if works localy
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| 13:56 | <ogra> wow you will need beefy clients for that
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| 13:56 | <maginot> ogra, well, all clients are Core Duo with 512 ~1gb of ram
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| 13:56 | <ogra> though i'm not sure 1.4 even exists anywhere anymore ... i think that was dropped loong ago
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| 13:56 | why dont you use suns latest jre ?
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| 13:57 | thats properly packaged and in the archive
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| 13:58 | <maginot> ogra, for some strange reason Oracle uses that thing called jinit, and seens not to exist a linux version of that so THEY told us to use this specific version, we already tried other version but only in this version IAS works
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| 13:58 | <ogra> odd
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| 13:58 | <maginot> you have no idea of how much we suffer with this old version
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| 13:59 | <ogra> thats not even supported upstream anymore and surely has security holes
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| 13:59 | <maginot> to work here I have to convert using alien from rpm to deb and then install
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| 13:59 | <ogra> evil that oracle doesnt compile against a newer java
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| 13:59 | ugh ... alien
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| 13:59 | you might run into unexcpected crashes etc
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| 14:00 | <maginot> yeah, I think thas because they have jinit for windows, so windows can run jre5 and jinit at same time
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| 14:01 | <Skarmeth> there is any easy way to enable NBD boot for Debian?
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| 14:01 | I was trying to compare Ubuntu instructions to Debian, but it differ
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| 14:01 | <maginot> ogra, well, I have to admit that our worsty problem is with acrobat and the fact that this j2re version doesnt run most onlinebanks
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| 14:02 | but here in our test loading acrobat localy is much much faster
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| 14:03 | 100% faster for loading (from 4 seconds to 2seconds) and there is no comparison about scrolling and using the pdf files
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| 14:04 | if our java version works like it should so I will have a green light for putting this 8.10 at production
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| 14:04 | =)
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| 14:05 | <stgraber> ogra: indeed
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| 14:07 | <maginot> stgraber, hey, I talk with Gadi sooner about using our server to make some test and help fixing some bugs on ltsp, he told me that you are one of the responsable for the ubuntu releases and told that was going to talk to you about this idea
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| 14:10 | <stgraber> maginot: I sent an e-mail to edubuntu-users, edubuntu-devel and ubuntu-qa about that a day or two ago
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| 14:10 | about the new things in Jaunty and what should be tested
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| 14:10 | <maginot> sorry, but Im not making part of any devel team (yet) today I came here talking about some issues and offered our server to be a test enviorment
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| 14:12 | stgraber, he said that was going to talk to you later after his meeting
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| 14:14 | <stgraber> sure, just have a look at that mail, it contains things that should be tested, it isn't targeted to developers specificaly
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| 14:15 | <maginot> stgraber, okay I will
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| 14:15 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: yes, it's possible, but the easiest way is to use the commandline flags to ltsp-build-client: "ltsp-build-client --squashfs-image" will get you something similar to how ubuntu does it.
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| 14:19 | <Skarmeth> humm, but I have a full functional chroot (i386) running, I just want to change from NFS to NBD to make a test
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| 14:20 | I am experiencing a poor performance for a 1GbE server wirh 2G RAM and one Core 2 Duo processor running Firefox (for one user)
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| 14:23 | removing the boot=nfs option from pxelinux.cfg/default don't change the boot behavior
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| 14:24 | there is additional steps to change from NFS to NBD
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| 14:24 | <Appiah> that's not LTSP 5 I'd guess?
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| 14:33 | <Skarmeth> Appiah, my one? yes, this is a ltsp 5 (debian lenny)
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| 14:34 | <Appiah> then it should be using NBD
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| 14:34 | unless you changed it
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| 14:37 | <maginot> j2re-1.4.2.06 worked perctly as localapp with firefox! :D
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| 14:38 | <Skarmeth> Appiah, Debian use NFS by default (as of wiki.debian.org)
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| 14:45 | <maginot> stgraber, where I go to make part of ubuntu-qa list ? (is this the location where you informed the bugs http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-reported/ubuntu-bugcontrol-reported-bug-tasks.html ?)
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| 14:53 | <stgraber> maginot: look at lists.ubuntu.com you can subscribe there or just read the archives
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| 14:54 | <maginot> ok, thks
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| 14:55 | <vagrantc> stgraber: just started another round of translation updates; i'm guessing you're not on the debian-l10n-french list, but you were the last translator ... i'm guessing they'll want to do review or something.
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| 14:56 | <CAN-o-SPAM> vagrantc: should i send you a copy of rosetta stone? ;)
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| 14:57 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 15:05 | <Skarmeth> there is a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupLTSPDevelEnvironment
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| 15:05 | that show how to change from NFS to NBD
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| 15:06 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: if you look at the plugins in /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Debian/095-squashfs-image it should show you what you need to add to the chroot to get it working
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| 15:06 | <Skarmeth> I was looking there
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| 15:07 | but it don't work with just that
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: basically, you need to have an appropriate aufs-modules and squashfs-modules package installed in the chroot
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| 15:07 | <Skarmeth> the URL above have a script that change the env and it almost worked
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: then you need to rebuild the initramfs, and then you need to run ltsp-update-image, and then you need to configure a couple server-side scripts
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| 15:08 | <Skarmeth> the nbdrootd are running
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| 15:08 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: you'll also want to set BOOTPROMPT_OPTS in the chroot
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| 15:08 | <Skarmeth> s/are/is
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| 15:08 | yep, done
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| 15:08 | <vagrantc> ltsp-update-kernels?
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| 15:08 | <Skarmeth> just updating the image to see if worked
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| 15:09 | I created the ${LTSP_ROOT}/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf file and add the options there
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| 15:10 | then I ran initramfs update script, ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update-image
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| 15:12 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: "initramfs update script" ?
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| 15:13 | <Skarmeth> update-initramfs
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| 15:13 | <vagrantc> and it actually updated the initramfs image?
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| 15:13 | <Skarmeth> yep
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| 15:13 | <vagrantc> usually called as "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 update-initramfs -u"
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| 15:13 | <Skarmeth> yes, this one
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| 15:14 | <vagrantc> or with newer versions, ltsp-chroot update-initramfs -u
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| 15:14 | Skarmeth: ok, so what's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 15:15 | <Skarmeth> it don't changed
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| 15:15 | <vagrantc> it's been a while since i tested any of the NBD related features with debian ... i pretty much got them working, and then just hoped they wouldn't break themselves.
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| 15:15 | <Skarmeth> so I added options manually
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| 15:16 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: ok, so what's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 15:17 | Skarmeth: could you cut-and-paste the contents? if it's longer than a couple of lines, to the pastebot
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| 15:17 | <Skarmeth> DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp boot=nfs
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| 15:17 | vagrantc, no it's just one line
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| 15:17 | <vagrantc> right.'
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| 15:17 | <Skarmeth> but this is wrong as of plugins for fs-image and squashfs
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| 15:18 | <vagrantc> "as of" ?
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| 15:18 | <Skarmeth> 035-create-fs-image: BOOTPROMPT_OPTS=${BOOTPROMPT_OPTS:-"quiet root=/dev/nbd0 ip=dhcp boot=local nbdroot=$NBD_ROOT_SERVER,$NBD_ROOT_PORT"}
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| 15:19 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: and you configured BOOTPROMPT_OPTS in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf ?
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| 15:19 | <Skarmeth> added to ${LTSP_ROOT}/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
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| 15:20 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: so the contents of ${LTSP_ROOT}/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf is?
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| 15:20 | <Skarmeth> and for 095-squashfs-image: BOOTPROMPT_OPTS=${BOOTPROMPT_OPTS:-"quiet ip=dhcp boot=ltsp_nbd"}
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| 15:21 | BOOTPROMPT_OPTS="quiet root=/dev/nbd0 ip=dhcp boot=local nbdroot=192.168.0.83,2000
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| 15:21 | manually added by my (following the script)
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| 15:23 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: if you want it like the ubuntu variant, you'll need the one from 095-squashfs-image
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| 15:24 | although i guess that method *should* work too.
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| 15:24 | presuming the squashfs modules are in the initramfs...
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| 15:25 | Skarmeth: ah. need to run the update script in the chroot.
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| 15:25 | <Skarmeth> update-initramfs ?
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> no, the ltsp-specific parts ...
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| 15:25 | * vagrantc looks | |
| 15:26 | <vagrantc> Skarmeth: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
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| 15:26 | normally runs automatically as part of kernel installs ...
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| 15:27 | and ltsp-update-kernels *used* to do that, but at some point someone purged it to simplify the code.
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| 15:27 | <Skarmeth> ok, let me check
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> i should look into update-initramfs to see if there are hooks we could plug into for it
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| 15:27 | i recally i looked at one point and couldn't find a good place, but that was a while ago.
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| 15:28 | Skarmeth: would be good to document this stuff in wiki.debian.org/LTSP someplace ... converting between NFS/NBD and all the possible permitations
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| 15:36 | <Skarmeth> great! it worked!
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| 15:37 | with dual-head my setup
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| 15:43 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Skarmeth: with a thin client? what model?
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| 15:47 | <Skarmeth> yes, thin client. Connec EZ1000
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| 16:18 | <Skarmeth> going document ltsp NBD to/from NFS switch for Debian
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| 16:59 | <ugrash> hi
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| 16:59 | if anybody's here
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| 17:00 | i'm still trying to build ltsp client on gentoo
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| 17:00 | but I have problems (of course)
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| 17:00 | in install_extra_packages
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| 17:01 | sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.4 (masked by: EAPI 2, invalid: SLOT is undefined)
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| 17:01 | and
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| 17:01 | games-util/joystick-20060731 (masked by: EAPI 2, invalid: SLOT is undefined)
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| 17:02 | <ugrash> it tells me to upgrade portage so it could manage EAPI 2
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| 17:02 | but i already have portage 2.1.6.7
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| 17:02 | I succeded in resolving the first few problems
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| 17:02 | but here i'm stuck
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| 17:03 | if anyone's listening
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| 17:03 | Haalp!!1
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| 17:03 | (and sorry for bad english)
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc_> ugrash: johnny does LTSP for gentoo, but isn't around right now.
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| 17:05 | <ugrash> oh ok
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| 17:05 | thank you for talking to me anyway
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| 17:05 | i was feeling lonely
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| 17:05 | :)
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| 17:05 | <vagrantc_> people help when they can
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| 17:06 | but it may take time for people to respond, so feel free to ask questions and just wait patiently for a response.
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| 17:06 | <ugrash> i know !
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc_> or post to one of the mailing lists: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net or ltsp-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
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| 17:06 | <Lns> ugrash: I'm sure we're all (mostly) here and listening.. just don't have an answer unfortunately
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| 17:06 | <ugrash> ok
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| 17:07 | i haven't used IRC for ages
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| 17:07 | actually
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| 17:07 | i installed irc client only for that question :)
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| 17:07 | thanks, i will try the mailing lists
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| 17:07 | <Lns> ugrash: like vagrantc_ says, watch out for johnny, he'd probably be able to answer your q
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| 17:08 | <ugrash> ok
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| 18:42 | <Magnifikus> hey little question, anyone an idea why iceweasel(firefox) wont start under ltsp5 as localapp? on console he simply dies without any comment
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| 21:13 | <mathesis> http://pastebin.com/m7180a4fa
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| 21:13 | ltspboot
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| 21:13 | !ltspboot
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| 21:13 | <ltspbot> mathesis: Error: "ltspboot" is not a valid command.
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| 21:13 | <mathesis> !ltspboot help
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| 21:13 | <ltspbot> mathesis: Error: "ltspboot" is not a valid command.
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| 21:14 | <mathesis> !ltspboot pastebin.com
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| 21:14 | <ltspbot> mathesis: Error: "ltspboot" is not a valid command.
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| 21:14 | <mathesis> !ltspboot paste
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| 21:14 | <ltspbot> mathesis: Error: "ltspboot" is not a valid command.
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| 21:14 | <mathesis> !ltspboot help
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| 21:14 | <ltspbot> mathesis: Error: "ltspboot" is not a valid command.
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| 21:14 | <Ryan52> !pastebot
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| 21:14 | <ltspbot> Ryan52: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 21:14 | <Ryan52> mathesis: that what you were looking for? :)
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| 21:16 | <ltsppbot> "mathesis" pasted "dhcp3-server failed" (15 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/290
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| 21:18 | <vagrantc_> mathesis: dhcp3-server doesn't work well with interface aliases ...
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| 21:19 | there's not much point to it, either.
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| 21:22 | <mathesis> ok
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| 21:23 | i going install 1 interface ethernet
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| 21:23 | i back
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| 22:37 | <mathesis> !ltspbot cdboot
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| 22:37 | <ltspbot> mathesis: Error: "ltspbot" is not a valid command.
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| 22:49 | <mathesis> what is the image iso to boot things clients?
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| 23:03 | ebnet.iso its to boot things clients
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