IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 April 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:27 | <alkisg> If the clients connect to the server by hostname, i.e. LDM_SERVER=server, then it doesn't matter if the server IP has changed.
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| 06:28 | So I wonder why we need an if-up.d script, an ssh-host-checker etc...
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| 06:30 | <elias_a> alkisg: What if DNS is down?
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| 06:31 | <alkisg> elias_a: the server name is put in the client's /etc/hosts on boot
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| 06:31 | So there's no DNS lookup involved
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| 06:32 | <elias_a> alkisg: Server name = IP address or in text?
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| 06:32 | <alkisg> In the client: $ grep server /etc/hosts
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| 06:32 | 10.160.31.10 server
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| 06:32 | <elias_a> OK - the IP.
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> So if one uses ssh server, then there's no prompt to accept the changed IP, just a warning that the new IP gets automatically trusted, which doesn't harm
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| 06:35 | And if one uses different application servers, he could just put their names in /etc/hosts too
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| 06:37 | <elias_a> This is _far_ beyond my experience... :(
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| 06:38 | <alkisg> I'm just wondering if we could remove all those, to simplify it... and for NBD, ltsp-update-ssh-keys could be called from ltsp-update-image, avoiding the need for the sysadmin to ever run it
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| 06:39 | <elias_a> alkisg: I guess asmok could comment on that.
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| 06:39 | I imagine he would love the idea.
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| 06:39 | muppis: What do you say?
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| 06:40 | vmlintu: And you?
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| 06:46 | * alkisg guesses he needs to ask stgraber whether there's need for ssh-hostchecker... | |
| 06:47 | <vagrantc> we'd have to changee ldm to use hostnames instead of IP addresses.
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| 06:47 | which, overall, i think is fine.
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| 06:47 | and easier to manage.
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| 06:50 | <muppis> Looks good. :)
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| 07:02 | <vmlintu> elias_a: trust server ssh keys automatically?
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| 07:03 | <knipwim> alkisg: saw your ltsp-pnp question, go right ahead
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| 07:04 | gentoo is sticking with 5.3.7 for now
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| 07:06 | <alkisg> Thank you knipwim
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| 09:11 | <elias_a> vmlintu: Read backlogs for today what alkisg wrote.
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| 15:26 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 15:33 | <dead_inside> morning sbalneav
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| 15:43 | <highvoltage> morning sbalneav
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| 15:57 | <wafflecone> for the LTSP Term 1720 I need to boot an i386 image , correct?
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| 16:07 | <sbalneav> wafflecone: Yep, I think so.
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| 16:07 | bbiab
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> !s
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| 16:58 | <ltsp> alkisg: s: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 16:59 | <muppis> o.O
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| 17:10 | <sbalneav> Hey alkisg!
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| 17:28 | <highvoltage> ʎʇʇoɔs ollǝɥ
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| 17:28 | <muppis> Urgh.
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| 17:39 | <sbalneav> highvoltage: Had to rotate the monitor to read that.
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| 17:40 | <ogra_> you didnt do a handstand ?
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| 17:40 | <sbalneav> Phhht. Ogra, you *know* my body build :)
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| 17:41 | * highvoltage did | |
| 17:41 | <ogra_> :)
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| 17:41 | highvoltage, to type it you mean ?
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| 17:41 | thats so clever !
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| 17:41 | <highvoltage> :)
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| 17:42 | if you fall without hitting the ground, you end up just floating in the air while typing
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| 17:42 | <ogra_> LOL
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| 17:43 | magig !
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| 18:46 | <roasted> hey guys!
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| 18:46 | looking for an opinion from some of the gang here if you guys have a moment
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| 18:47 | Let's say I have a 10.04 LTSP server running now and it's having some issues that may or may not be related to the server itself (long, long story). In the event a reinstall is needed, would it be safe to reinstall with 12.04 at this point, or would it be best to stick with 10.04?
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| 18:48 | I just wasn't sure what kind of LTSP development was done with 12.04, because I certainly don't want to jump into anything, but I AM running 12.04 on my personal systems and even a lab at work and it runs fabulous.
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| 18:49 | <alkisg> LTSP in 12.04 should be stable enough
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| 18:49 | <roasted> only question is, what do clients use by default in 12.04? Unity?
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| 18:49 | I haven't given much thought to that until just now.
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| 18:50 | I don't think I'd like to roll out Unity overnight like that...
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| 18:50 | <alkisg> !gnome-classic
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| 18:50 | <ltsp> alkisg: gnome-classic: To select gnome-classic as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-classic"
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| 18:50 | <roasted> oh dear
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| 18:50 | alkisg: stop being so awesome
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| 18:50 | you know, I still owe you like 4 cases of beer
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| 18:51 | <alkisg> :)
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| 18:51 | <roasted> I haven't, and certainly won't forget that.
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| 18:51 | You ever come up to Baltimore, Philadelphia, etc. Let me know.
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| 18:51 | so I take it gnome classic is included in 12.04?
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| 18:52 | or is it just included for the clients as part of LTSP?
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> Edubuntu includes it, or you can just apt-get install gnome-session in plain Ubuntu
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| 18:53 | <roasted> very nice
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| 18:53 | any advantage to doing edubuntu over ubuntu?
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| 18:53 | just preinstalled software?
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| 18:54 | <highvoltage> roasted: mostly.
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| 18:54 | <roasted> thought so
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| 18:55 | I'm going to be working on a server tonight for my old job...
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| 18:55 | one I set up when I was still there.
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| 18:55 | I joined it to the domain via likewise open (windows domain)
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| 18:55 | last week they took a controller offline thinking it would fix an issue they thought was isolated to that controller
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| 18:56 | now the server itself won't respond
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| 18:56 | won't hand out dhcp requests, nothing
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| 18:56 | configs look good, files look good, I was drawing a blank when I was on the phone helping them. We'll see what I get into tonight though...
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| 18:57 | all thanks to that Windows controller being taken offline... so strange...
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| 20:54 | <marcelo> hey guys
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| 20:54 | <Guest9174> somebody can help me with a localdev situation?
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| 20:55 | I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and when I put an usb stick in thin client I notice that the device is mounted in /tmp/.marcelo-ltspfs
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| 20:55 | but the desktop icon isn't created
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| 20:56 | any tips about it ?
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| 20:56 | hey sbalneav , how are you? It's me, Marcelo from Propus :-)
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| 21:10 | <sbalneav> Guest9174: Hello map7work
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| 21:10 | Arh
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| 21:11 | M<tab> doesn't display Marcelo :)
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| 21:11 | <Guest9174> :-)
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| 21:11 | <sbalneav> What desktop are you using?
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| 21:11 | <Guest9174> I need to identify myself, but I don't remember my passsword
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| 21:11 | gnome classic
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| 21:12 | <sbalneav> Hm, should just pop up. This under Ubuntu?
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| 21:12 | <Guest9174> yep, 10.04
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| 21:12 | we are experiencing this problem in two servers
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| 21:13 | is there some kind of log or debug that I could activate to understand what is happening ?
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| 21:13 | <sbalneav> .xsession-errors is a good place to start.
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| 21:13 | <Guest9174> hmmm, ok, I didn't look in this file
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| 21:14 | everything looks fine
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| 21:14 | the only problem is desktop icon
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| 21:14 | I'll take a look in .xsession-errors tomorrow
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| 21:14 | I can't test it right now
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| 21:15 | <Guest9174> but I can read the file now :-)
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| 21:15 | let me take a look
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| 21:16 | <sbalneav> I'll be leaving shortly. I'll be on later tonight. I'll try to refresh my mmeory as to how the icon gets created.
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| 21:17 | <Guest9174> no problem, thanks for the tip
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| 21:17 | I'll connect tomorrow again
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| 21:17 | I'm leaving in less than an hour
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| 21:18 | <sbalneav> kk
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| 21:21 | <Guest9174> no clues in .xsession-errors
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| 21:23 | interesting thing is that nothing is mounted in /media
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| 21:24 | I don't know if it is the expected behaviour
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| 21:24 | <Guest9174> and another question: the ltspfs package is enought or I need to install ltspfsd ?
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| 21:25 | hmm, lbmount is just in case ltspfs can't mount the stick
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| 21:26 | but looking in ltspfsmounter I can't see references to icon creation
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| 21:43 | well, I'm going
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| 21:43 | well, I'm going
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| 21:43 | bye guys
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| 23:16 | <roasted> hello!
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| 23:16 | someone, quick, stab me
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| 23:16 | I cannot for the life of me figure out why one NIC doesnt hand out DHCP while the other NIC does, yet both configs are identical and both NICs are in /etc/default/dhcp3-server
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| 23:42 | <roasted> nada?
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