IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 September 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:14 | <amol> hi to all, how to make use of bootsplash at workstation?
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| 06:18 | sbalneav, cyberorg i am not able to access local harddisk at workstation..i am able to use cdrom,usb
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| 07:28 | <amol> hi to all,i am not able to access local harddisk at workstation..i am able to use cdrom,usb...what changes i have to do??
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| 07:33 | <cyberorg> amol, great work :)
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| 07:33 | <amol> cyberorg, thanks..but still i am not able to access local harddisk at workstation??
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| 07:34 | <cyberorg> amol, LTSP is for "diskless workstations" so local har disks are intentionally not supported\
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| 07:34 | <amol> cyberorg, 3d also working at workstation
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| 07:35 | cyberorg, but some data is available of old operating system then how to use it
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| 07:35 | <amol> cyberorg, if i can access my local harddisk then may be i can use for storing docs
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| 07:37 | cyberorg, i am having many system with linux installed on their harddisk i want to make all them workstation ..as well want to use all their hardware
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| 07:38 | cyberorg, is their any way to acces local harddisk??
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| 07:41 | <Solv> cyberorg, I still can't login with kde4...kde3 is fine...they must have screwed up something in an update but I can't figure it out
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| 07:42 | <cyberorg> Solv, remove ~/.kde4 folder
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| 07:43 | amol, someone recently posted a workaround on the ltsp-discuss mailing list
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| 07:44 | <Solv> cyberorg, i can test it by creating a new user instead of losing all my settings...but it still doesn't work...it's got to do with the session manager or policy kit i think...not letting a remote login occur with X maybe?
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| 07:44 | <cyberorg> Solv, most likely you have missed updating one of the packages, do you have qt as well as KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repo added?
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| 07:44 | <amol> cyberorg, how to make use of bootsplash at booting time for workstation?
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| 07:44 | <Solv> cyberorg, lol...yeah i do know...lost my whole desktop for a week there until i found that out
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| 07:45 | <Solv> i'm trying to nail it down so i can give kde some intelligent info to go on
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| 07:45 | #kde rather
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| 07:45 | <cyberorg> amol, use vga=791 in boot parameter
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| 07:46 | Solv, add both of those repo, do zypper refresh and then update everything from there
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| 07:46 | remove .kde4 before loging in
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| 07:47 | <Solv> already did....that's how i got my desktop back...removing .kde4 does nothing more than adding a new user would...so I'd rather not lose all my settings to find out that it hasn't fixed the problem
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| 07:47 | <cyberorg> i am on Version 4.1.1 (KDE 4.1.0 (4.1 >= 20080722)) "release 26.4", works great :)
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| 07:47 | <Solv> i just create a 'test' user and make sure a new home dir is created
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| 07:48 | cyberorg, true? okay so your thin clients can login fine?
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| 07:48 | <cyberorg> Solv, they always did, all through updates
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| 07:48 | <amol> cyberorg, Solv i am having one doubt that by default it install ldm then how you are using kde?
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| 07:48 | by chroot install kde?
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| 07:49 | <Solv> cyberorg, hmmm yeah it worked for me when i first installed it...opensuse 11 with 4.04...updated to 4.1 and it was fine...then i did a reinstall of opensuse 11 on a raid array, and updated to 4.1 BEFORE installing ltsp....and that's when it stopped working...
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| 07:49 | <cyberorg> amol, no, select it from "Preference"
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| 07:50 | Solv, create another test server and try duplicating it
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| 07:50 | <Solv> cyberorg, oh and the other really freaky thing is bootsplash worked fine originally...but second time around it no longer works....i get told i passed an undefined video mode...
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| 07:51 | <cyberorg> Solv, add vga=<your video mode> in /srv/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 07:51 | <Solv> but if i remove splash=silent and keep the same video mode i get the verbose fram buffer console in 1280x1024 at 16 bit!!!....go figure
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| 07:51 | cyberorg, oh no i'm talking about on the server
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| 07:51 | local boot
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| 07:51 | <amol> cyberorg, even i added kernel parameter vga=791,bootsplash is not working..
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| 07:52 | <cyberorg> mkinitrd -s 1024x768
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| 07:52 | <amol> but for server same bootsplash is working..
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| 07:53 | <Solv> amol, yeah well at least you got a bootsplash on your server
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| 07:53 | <cyberorg> sorry i lost you, ltsp clients have proper bootsplash?
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| 07:53 | <amol> cyberorg, where i have to check for ltsp-client bootsplash??
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| 07:54 | <Solv> cyberorg, actually i forgot i hadn't gone onto #opensuse to figure out my bootsplash problem on the server...i'm not fussed about boootsplash on the thin clients for the moment =)...amol may be
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| 07:55 | <cyberorg> amol, you dont have to set anything for that, it should just work
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| 07:55 | unless debian has it disabled
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| 07:55 | <nubae> hmmm new filemanager now has tabs, cool
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| 07:56 | <cyberorg> nubae, i find split view of dolphin more useful than tabs on nautilus
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| 07:57 | <Solv> cyberorg, /me agrees =)
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| 07:57 | damn
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| 07:57 | well you get the point
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| 07:57 | <nubae> still, tabs on nautilis is nice for gnome
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| 07:57 | but yeah the split view is cool, though dont quite trust kde 4 yet
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| 07:58 | <cyberorg> :)
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| 07:59 | <amol> nubae, cyberorg, LOCALSTORAGE=Y is usefull in ltsp5 to access local harddisk?
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| 07:59 | <cyberorg> amol, check the mailing list
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| 08:00 | <nubae> not needed its on by default
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| 08:00 | <cyberorg> as i said few lines back, there was a discussion going on about it
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| 08:00 | <nubae> oh sorry... local storage...
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| 08:00 | <cyberorg> nubae, he means local hard disks
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| 08:00 | <nubae> disabled by default
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| 08:00 | needs to be enabled by hand
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| 08:00 | <Solv> i don't understand why you'd wanna access the hdd
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| 08:00 | <nubae> swap space
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| 08:01 | to enable it, you'd have to edit the ltsp scripts, not just lts.conf
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| 08:02 | <Solv> nubae, okay good point...although I just increase the swap space on the server for each machine if i run into issues
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| 08:03 | <nubae> yeah I use the local hard disks for booting :-)
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| 08:03 | <amol> nubae, can you tell me what changes i should do in lts.conf and script??
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| 08:05 | <nubae> amol: go look in the amol I can, but all changes u make will be overwritten when u next update ltsp
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| 08:06 | and its extremely insecure... everyone has access to the local drive information then
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| 08:06 | <amol> just this is for learning ..
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| 08:07 | <cyberorg> amol, you really should try looking in mailing list archive, it is not that difficult :)
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| 08:07 | <amol> cyberorg, i tried but they mentioned about ltsp4.2
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| 08:08 | <cyberorg> you will also learn why it was disabled and the technology involved in blocking ot
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| 08:08 | *it
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| 08:08 | amol, the discussion is from this month for ltsp5
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| 08:08 | <nubae> yep... there are good reasons its disabled
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| 08:09 | <Solv> cyberorg, well nobody one opensuse seems clever enough to help my with my bootsplash problem...do you have any other suggestions? - you're an opensuse man aren't you?
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| 08:10 | <cyberorg> Solv, i already posted solution here ^^
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| 08:10 | <Solv> mkinitrd -s 1024x768?
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| 08:10 | <cyberorg> yes
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| 08:10 | <Solv> cyberorg, thought you were taling to amol
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| 08:11 | is that it...any dir i have to be in?
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| 08:11 | like /usr/src/linux?
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| 08:11 | <cyberorg> no, run as root
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| 08:12 | <Solv> cyberorg, could i try mkinitrd -s 1280x1024 or do you think that may be the problem?
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| 08:12 | <cyberorg> Solv, in #suse please
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| 09:12 | <amol> nubae, after doing LOCALDEV=True also i am not able to access harddisk and not able to understand solution given in ltsp-discuss about udev rules..
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| 09:29 | <nubae> amol: like I said before, its been disabled and needs to be enabled in the udev scripts of the thin client
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| 09:39 | <amol> nubae, i am not able to undrestand udev rules and what to change..please can you guide me?
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| 09:41 | <loca|host> hello all
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| 09:42 | <nubae> amol: Im a little busy now, but in a couple hours I can take a look for you
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| 10:11 | <amol> i will ask you tomarow..good night..
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| 12:11 | <johnny> people are trying to hack my nickserv password it seems
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| 16:07 | <masterMed> how to fix clock problem with ltsp? client system date is different from server system date!
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| 16:08 | how to update client date?
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| 16:09 | <johnny> perhaps your clocks are messed up on the client hardware itself?
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| 16:10 | <masterMed> I thought that all the kernel is stored on the server, isn't it?
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| 16:10 | so how can the date missmatch
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| 16:10 | <vagrantc> the file is on the server, but it's running on the thin-client.
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| 16:11 | it's loaded into the thin-client's ram.
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| 16:11 | and using the thin-client's hardware
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| 16:11 | including the clock
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| 16:13 | <stgraber> sbalneav: hey, I'm not near a LTSP system at the moment (haven't bought all the hardware I used to have in switzerland :)) and I was wondering if we can have some ldm rc.d scripts executed at logout time ?
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| 16:14 | sbalneav: for ltsp-cluster we need to tell our control-center when a session is opened and when it's closed so we can know who is logged where and if a session is already opened (so we can kill it to avoid locking issues)
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| 16:15 | <masterMed> I agree with u, but can u tell me how to modify the date?
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| 16:15 | <johnny> make sure the clock is set right in thin client bios
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| 16:15 | <stgraber> currently it's using XDMCP and GDM's pre and post sessions scripts to do that but with us moving to LDM I need to find a way to implement the same feature :)
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| 16:16 | masterMed: login on the thin client (tty1) as root, then run: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com && hwclock --systohc
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| 16:16 | <masterMed> thks a lot
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> masterMed: install ntp on the server and set up a script to call ntpdate like above
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| 17:02 | masterMed: on boot of the thin-clients
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| 17:02 | stgraber: there are bugs that have prevented the ldm/rc.d scripts for logout don't run...
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| 17:03 | <masterMed> you are sure that there is no other solution?
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> stgraber: http://bugs.debian.org/471793
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| 17:03 | masterMed: there are hundreds of other solutions, but i think that one will likely be the simplest.
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| 17:04 | <masterMed> vagrantc: ok thks
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| 17:05 | <vagrantc> masterMed: using ntp in some form or fashion is just a simple, smart, easy thing to do.
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| 21:40 | <ark_> Need help with grub.
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| 21:40 | any grub gurus awake
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| 21:43 | <vagrantc_> grub isn't such an LTSP thing...
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| 21:46 | <ark_> hi vagrant. You are right it's not but I'm trying to setup this laptop for an ltsp demo
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| 21:56 | does anyone know what reasons grub-install will report "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" It exists. I've checked fstab and mtab. also checked grub.conf
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| 23:35 | <toastydeath> hi all
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| 23:35 | two dumb questions
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| 23:35 | has anyone tried to run ltsp on a single image system?
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| 23:42 | =(
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