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hello. I've have following problems on gentoo amd64:
albatros2 stages # rm -rf /opt/ltsp/amd64/ && ltsp-build-client --dist Gentoo
Default Quickstart profile: /etc/ltsp/quickstart/profile.qs
Installing into: /opt/ltsp/amd64
* Sanity checking config
* you must specify a stage_uri
* kernel_sources not set...assuming gentoo-sources
* logging_daemon not set...assuming syslog-ng
* Sanity checking partition config for amd64
* bootloader not set...assuming grub
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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barzog, why make you use --dist Gentoo there ?
tried. nothing changes:(
well Gentoo is surely not a debian or ubuntu release :) (--dist specifies the release and i dont think anyone ever ported the option to gentoo)
file: is missing a third slash
should be file:///
(first two are the protocol, third is /
if that still doesnt work you need to wait for knipwim or johnny, they are gentoo guys
nothing changes with third slash. ok, anyway thanks for directions. will wait....
" you must specify a stage_uri" is surely a pointer i would take a look at :)
I've also specified it in /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf: STAGE_URI=file:///opt/ltsp/stages/stage3-amd64-20100121.tar.bz2
nothing changes. with --stage_uri it complains unknown key "--stage_uri"
are you sure in ltsp-build-client.conf file:// is needed ?
or are you sure file:/// is needed at all ?
also have a look at ltsp-build-client --extra-help it should tell you more details about options
it shown in http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LTSP#Client_Install
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barzog, things have changed i think.. knipwim just did something with stage_uri to make it act differently
barzog, do you really have amd64 thin clients? :)
johnny: can you buy anything else? if it is new hardware it will more then likely be 64-bit.
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sure.. just depends on if you have new hardware..
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if a company is going to implement an LTSP (bank, library, PR firm...) would they make a request for random hardware ? I would want every terminal to be the same. One profile ;) Unless you can find a stack of identical machines on eBay those companies will purchase brand new.
i don't know anything about banks..
didn't see anything about using banks..
are you the same person?
check my IP. I am not.
plus, I use Debian ;)
then why are you responding..
i was asking him
he iddn't indicate using it for a bank..
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johnny: it was an example. bank, library, other corporate type places.
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anyone else playing with lucid? as of this morning ltsp-build-client dies due to unmet dependencies, and I can't tell if it's because of the repo state or because I did something to break it.
alincoln: what's the exact error message?
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alkisg: er, shut down the VM already. it was apt complaining about unmet dependencies for dbus, ltsp-client, and something else. sorry i didn't keep the message.
I don't think there's been any updates in lucid ltsp this week...
How did you call ltsp-build-client?
plain old 'ltsp-build-client --arch i386'
at one point i had stgraber's ppa in there, and i wanted to try moving back to the lucid package. so i had purged ltsp-server, ltspfs, and ldm-server on the server and installed the lucid packages. but i would still expect ltsp-build-client to do the right thing...?
One way to do that would be (1) remove stgraber's ppa (2) remove ltsp (3) apt-get update (4) install ltsp... If you did that, sure, it should work fine...
yep, that's what i tried
alincoln: I did a lot of ltsp-build-client tests this week, none of them broke.
So it must be something wrong about stgraber's ppa (didn't use it) or your setup
alkisg: ok. i probably broke something :) i'll just get a new one going, no worries.
If you try again, do keep the whole logs/messages etc
And, a new version is coming out soonish, with lots of new stufff
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alincoln: my PPA is a snapshot of what will be uploaded in Lucid, I don't currently have any dependency change in there so if you are using up to date lucid, the same should happen with current's lucid ltsp
stgraber: ok, thanks. i didn't suspect the ppa. i imagine i did something stupid :D
that or someone broke a dependency in lucid itself, it's a dev release so that happens quite often
in most case, just wait 2-3 hours and try again ;) Also, always use archive.ubuntu.com and not some local mirror
it may take up to a day for mirrors to update, that's not a problem for a stable release but it's for dev release
stgraber: is it time for 5.2? \o/
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alkisg: I'll be doing some tests on current trunk probably today or tomorrow and if I don't find anything broken, I'll tag that as 5.1.99
nbd-proxy is stable and a lot faster than last week though it's still adding a 30% or so overhead which I'll get fixed last week for 5.2
s/last/next/ of course
Some teachers here want to test the fat clients plugin asap, so I'll tell them to test 5.1.99 - that way we'll have more input for a stable 5.2 ;)
vagrantc: In some of the diffs Launchpad sent me I noticed we are playing with IFS to get the right result from while/for loops but didn't restore the IFS after the loop, was that done on purpose ?
vagrantc: usually "unset IFS" is causing some weird issues and that's why we save it as OLDIFS and the restore it after the loop
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stgraber: i may have missed it in the initial commits, but everything should end with unset IFS ; test -n "$OLDIFS" && IFS="$OLDIFS"
i found a few cases that were inconsistant that i fixed in code i didn't even use
stgraber: so you're saying "unset IFS" shouldn't be used at all?
well, if you do unset + restore the OLDIFS, that's fine, I thought I saw a case where we only unset it but never restore the old one
stgraber: i'm fairly certain i fixed those by the end of my flurry of commits
stgraber: and a few extra ones for good measure
vagrantc: ok, I just found one in another file that you didn't touch, so I guess that was just me not parsing LP's diff correctly in my head ;)
thanks for all the cleaning up
stgraber: there should be noticeable speed improvements on login when localapps is enabled now
still kind of slow, at least with debian+nfs ... but i think even NBD setups will notice
did you do some tests with weird group names ? In the past we had some issues with "Domain Admins" as group that'd make that script fail and end up with no groups at all
stgraber: i didn't test it ... i don't really have a means to do so
stgraber: but i'm fairly certain it should work even with spaces and whatnot.
in shell, case is king.
vagrantc: I'll try to do some tests here later today, I really hope the new code handles it correctly as we had to do a lot of hack in the past (and probably adding a lot of overhead with these)
stgraber: it's all quoted pattern matching, so it should be fine.
cool, btw, how are we doing with translations ?
i think there are only 4 slightly out of date, and 1 way out of date
stgraber: today's the "deadline" i gave, of course we'd keep accepting updates :)
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Here's a way to *correctly* restore IFS: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m10b9a7bc
(i.e. unset it if it was initially unset)
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sbalneav: hey there!
sbalneav: any news on the fancy pam ssh thingamawhatzit lately?
sbalneav: i'm looking at switching to fatclients at freegeek, but having screensaver's lock the user out of their session is nearly a blocker...
and who knows what other pam-needing services lurk
sbalneav: would it be the sort of thing that could still be useful even with versions of ldm that didn't take advantage of it yet?
vagrantc: Well, in *theory*, we might even be able to use gdm
i.e. to authenticate localapp/fatclient screensavers, for example.
I'm working on it, I've got a book on pam ordered from amazon.
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Should be here monday.
sbalneav: it's very exciting!
it will solve all our problems!
I'd like to have something play-aroundable-with by next weekend.
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Yeah, it is kind of exciting, isn't it! :)
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So, no one here either?
johnny: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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XuzhouJim, in all reality.. this is a bad time for this channel
the current set of contributors seems to be most active during european/usa business hours
it is not very active on the weekends
OK. Am in China. Just looking for a good place to RTFM on Edubuntu 9.10.
XuzhouJim: What's your question?
I'm also in #edubuntu
I used linux back in the old days when you had to compile your own kernel but I don't have much experience with the new packages.
I want to set up a Thin Client/Server lab and need to find a good source for learning the basics so I can form an intelligent question.
sbalneav: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
80+ page manual there.
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Should I get up to speed on ltsp first, then tackle the Edubuntu side?
Oh Shite! Wife is ready for lunch. Will have to get back later. Leave your answer, I'll pick it up in the log.
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