IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 28 September 2021 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:01 | <eu^273447147> Hello there
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| 01:02 | I was wondering about /etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf. Do I have to run some commands after changing the file? For some reason, the changes I make in the file don't seem to take effect. And when it does, I can't figure out which phase of the moon it is dependent on.
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| 01:03 | <vagrantc> ltsp initrd
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| 01:03 | <eu^273447147> Hey, Mr. vagrantc, the one who works for debian and also guix, good to see you here!
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| 01:03 | I see. Thank you.
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| 01:04 | But I don't think the clients are respecting the conf file.... strange. Any ideas?
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| 01:04 | <vagrantc> https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/
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| 01:04 | eu^273447147: ltsp initrd
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| 01:04 | <eu^273447147> I see. Thank you.
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| 01:05 | <vagrantc> https://ltsp.org/man/ltsp-initrd/
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| 01:05 | * vagrantc is happy to be able to answer ltsp questions :) | |
| 01:06 | <eu^273447147> The man page doesn't explicitly state ltsp initrd. Perhas that ought to be added (?)
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| 01:06 | <vagrantc> kind of felt a little rusty, but have more experience again recently
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| 01:06 | <eu^273447147> It's so good to meet a celebrity here. (:
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| 01:06 | <vagrantc> not sure what you mean
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| 01:06 | "ltsp initrd" is mentioned in both the links i gave you, and mentions when you should run it
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| 01:06 | <eu^273447147> You are vagrantc of debian fame
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| 01:07 | <vagrantc> yes, i'm aware of that part :)
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| 01:07 | <eu^273447147> Ah! I read it wrong
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| 01:07 | Thanks
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| 01:07 | I thought it was ltsp conf
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| 01:07 | Ah, yeah I read even that wrong
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| 01:07 | <vagrantc> might be leftovers from ltsp5 era commands in your m ind :)
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| 01:08 | <eu^273447147> I see. 1 more question. I have a nfs share running on my server that I want to mount to /usr/share/tuxtype/words for ALL clients
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| 01:09 | I tried adding FSTAB_TUX="/nfs/dir/here /usr/share/tuxtype/words..." under [*:*:*:*] (for [clients]) in the conf file.
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| 01:10 | I suppose that looks okay to you? I realize that it must be me not running `ltsp initrd` that was causing that to be not respected?
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| 01:10 | <vagrantc> you might need to create the directory first
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| 01:10 | <eu^273447147> It is there already
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| 01:10 | Must be the initrd part I suppose
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| 01:10 | <vagrantc> but yeah, you'll need to run "ltsp initrd" for changes to ltsp.conf to take effect
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| 01:11 | rather than downloading it separately, all the stuff ltsp uses is included in the ltsp initrd ...
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| 01:11 | <eu^273447147> Ah.... I see.
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| 01:12 | Also, I wanted to know, what should I read up to know what things LTSP is using under the hood? Is there any documentation regarding that? Or should I just start reading the source?
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| 01:12 | I mean rather....
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| 01:12 | this kind of compartmentalization.....
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| 01:12 | "ltsp initrd does so and so and handles this part"
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| 01:13 | Or maybe I just don't understand the man page enough
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| 01:13 | idk
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| 01:13 | <vagrantc> i think https://ltsp.org/docs covers that
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| 01:13 | <eu^273447147> I did read through it once. I suppose I'll just have to read through it over and over again.
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| 01:14 | Thank you very much for your help. I'll try to fix up my installation today. Hope you have a good time!
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| 05:24 | * alkisg is glad to see vagrantc giving ltsp advice once more! | |
| 05:24 | <alkisg> vagrantc: `ssvnc` is a much better default viewer than xtightvncviewer; we avoided it due to it recommending default-jre,
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| 05:24 | ...which it uses to implement ultravnc-like ftp transfers (so it's a bit of a rarely used functionality),
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| 05:25 | do you think we'd have any chances of convincing its debian maintainers to suggest it instead of recommending it?
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| 05:25 | So that we avoid installing default-jre when once `apt installs epoptes`...
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| 05:38 | <eu^273447240> Hello there, it seems that ltsp is not respecting my `ltsp.conf` file (despite running `ltsp initrd`)
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| 05:38 | My suspicion - is it because I'm keeping the file in a separate place (`/home/etc/ltsp.conf`) and symlinking to it?
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| 05:39 | Here's my ltsp.conf file: https://termbin.com/6xa6
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| 05:39 | The clients don't boot quietly. The nfs folder isn't mounted. And the hostname isn't set. Is there something I'm missing?
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| 05:40 | <alkisg> eu^273447240: hello
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| 05:40 | <eu^273447240> Hey there! So good to see you again!
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| 05:40 | <alkisg> KERNEL_PARAMETERS go to [common] or [server] or [MAC_ADDRESS]
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| 05:40 | They can't be under [clients], as they actually run on the server
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| 05:41 | After you boot a client, if you `cat /etc/fstab`, do you see your line inside it?
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| 05:41 | > Hey there! So good to see you again! ==> it helps if you use any static username, e.g. "johnsmith1234", as it's impossible to remember "eu^273447240" :)
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| 05:42 | You may type `/nick username` to change it
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| 05:42 | Regarding the symlink, yeah it's most probably the fault. You may uncompress your ltsp.img to see if it went inside it or not; I would imagine "not"
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| 05:57 | <eu^273447240> alkisg I am sorry (power outage) Thanks, retrying now (looked at the irc logs)
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| 05:58 | <alkisg> 👍️
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| 06:00 | <eu^273447240> So it's a real file (no symlink now) and here's the conf file https://termbin.com/h06u and 1. it still is not booting quietly
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| 06:01 | 2. the hostname is now being respected. So that is good
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| 06:02 | <alkisg> > After you boot a client, if you cat /etc/fstab, do you see your line inside it?
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| 06:02 | <eu^273447240> Yes, sir. The line is inside it. But it isn't mounting
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| 06:04 | Ah! I tried `mount -a` in the client and it seems that I lack `nfs-common` in the clients
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| 06:04 | let me check with another image
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| 06:05 | wait that's not right... I can mount.nfs that... let me check some more
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| 06:10 | <alkisg> mount.nfs is a symlink to a small klibc program that ltsp puts
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| 06:10 | It can only do "nolock" nfs3 mounts
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| 06:10 | Do install nfs-common, run ltsp image, then reboot the clients
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| 06:10 | <eu^273447240> what is nolock? Should I add that option?
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| 06:12 | <alkisg> No, do what I wrote above
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| 12:41 | <eu^273447240> Hey there,
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| 12:42 | <eu^273447240> so installing `nfs-common` on the client image does fix the nfs mount issue. Thank you
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| 12:42 | Now, I have this issue where netbooting the clients with the ltsp server times out at tftp
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| 12:42 | unless I manually restart dnsmasq
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| 12:42 | any ideas what might be causing that?
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> Yes, bind-interfaces in /etc/dnsmasq.d/something-with-lxc-or-qemu
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| 21:38 | <superdad> I've got a debootstrap chroot working great for booting Ubuntu 20.04. Does this method work well for versions 16.04, and 18.04 of Ubuntu as well? https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/wiki/chroots
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