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Channel log from 17 March 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:14 | <petre> jammcq: are you on (at this ridiculous hour)?
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| 00:15 | <jammcq> print 'SORTED: ' . $outrec->{hey
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| 00:15 | heh
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| 00:15 | <petre> I guess so ;-)
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| 00:15 | I got Barry Cisna's snd-sis7019 module from the k12 wiki
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| 00:16 | <jammcq> k
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| 00:16 | <petre> but when my ebox 2300 client boots up it says "FATAL: module snd_sis7019 could not be found"
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| 00:16 | why the underscore rather than the dash?
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| 00:16 | <jammcq> modprobe treats underscores and dashes the same
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| 00:17 | look at the manpage on modprobe
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| 00:17 | <petre> I tried running insmod snd-sis7019 at the shell but it says it can't find that
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| 00:17 | <jammcq> didn't barry include some docs about how to make it work?
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| 00:17 | insmod won't follow a path. with insmod, you need to specify the full pathanem of the module, including the .ko at the end
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| 00:17 | <petre> modprobe--which is what the rc.sound script uses I think--says it can't find snd_sis7019
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| 00:18 | yeah, his doc says put the file into...uh, hold on...
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| 00:18 | <jammcq> yeah, cuz snd_sis7019 isn't in your modules.dep file
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| 00:18 | to use modprobe, the module needs to be in modules.dep, along with any dependencies
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| 00:18 | <petre> ah, that's a lead
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| 00:19 | so, do I need to modify some other file to tell it about the module?
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| 00:19 | <jammcq> you need to regenerate the modules.dep file
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> just update your modules.dep file
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| 00:19 | <petre> how do I do that?
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| 00:19 | <jammcq> man depmod
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| 00:20 | * petre goes to manpage | |
| 00:20 | <jammcq> unfortunately, the ebox folks have decided to use the sis7019 chipset, which isn't supported by the kernel, and the driver source code isn't gpl'd, so it can't be added to the distro
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| 00:21 | there's no license information at all in the 7019 source files
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| 00:21 | and i've been trying to hunt down someone at SiS to give me copyright/license information
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| 00:21 | <petre> so you can't include it until you get that, right?
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| 00:21 | <jammcq> that's right
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| 00:22 | they basically wrote a driver, and threw it over the wall, without any licensing information
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| 00:22 | <IRCzito_home> wheell Im so happy, now local devices it's work on ltsp-5 + slackware :D
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| 00:23 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: nice.
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| 00:23 | <jammcq> IRCzito_home: how did you do it?
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| 00:23 | <petre> they're a hardware co. for crying out loud, how hard can it be to release driver info
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| 00:23 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: now you just need to make a native ltsp5 implementation for slackware :)
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| 00:23 | <IRCzito_home> it's the next step ;)
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| 00:24 | <vagrantc> the first diskless terminal system i wrote was based on slackware
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| 00:24 | <vagrantc> the precursor to lessdisks
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| 00:24 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: I make the script like /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltspfsd on (http://www.ubuntulinux.se/node/1496)
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| 00:24 | <jammcq> ooooh
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| 00:25 | <vagrantc> actually, it was looplinux, which was based on slackware
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| 00:26 | <IRCzito_home> and I get the python script ltspfsmounter in ltspfsd_0.4.3-0ubuntu4_i386.deb and put on the server
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| 00:26 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: what do you mean? i mean, i know what that script is for ... but if you're using an ubuntu tarball, it should already be there.
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| 00:26 | ltspfsd is what gets installed to the thin-client chroot, not on the server itself
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| 00:27 | <IRCzito_home> the ltspfsmounter is a python script called by ssh i think
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| 00:28 | <vagrantc> if it's in the ltspfsd package, it *does not* belong on the server, but in the client chroot.
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| 00:28 | it's in the ltspfs package, though ... so yeah. it belongs on the server.
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| 00:29 | the "ltspfs" package is the server parts, and the "ltspfsd" is the thin-client parts.
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| 00:30 | <petre> ok, so it looks like I need to run 'depmod -b /opt/ltsp/i386', right? Or do a specify the path all the way out to lib/modules/2.6.17.3-ltsp-1?
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| 00:31 | <vagrantc> oh wait, the /etc/init.d/ltspfs* stuff didn't really exist... it's been in my head all this time, and apparently on the ubunutlinux.se wiki
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| 00:32 | <andrew_> can anyone tell me where to download the LTSP utilities for .deb.
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| 00:32 | <vagrantc> andrew_: which distro?
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| 00:32 | <jammcq> andrew_: what version of LTSP ?
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| 00:33 | <vagrantc> jammcq: we're out of sync tonight :)
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| 00:33 | <MetztliXictli> hi vagrantc
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| 00:33 | <andrew_> Ubuntu Server 6.1
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| 00:33 | <jammcq> vagrantc: yeah, it's late here
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| 00:33 | <jammcq> andrew_: what version of LTSP ?
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| 00:34 | <andrew_> LTSP-5
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| 00:34 | <MetztliXictli> jammcq: what's you distro?
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| 00:34 | <jammcq> you don't need the ltsp_utils for that
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| 00:34 | MetztliXictli: I love them all
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| 00:34 | <vagrantc> !ubuntuquick
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| 00:34 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ubuntuquick" is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 00:34 | <vagrantc> andrew_: try that
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| 00:34 | <andrew_> Thank You
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| 00:35 | <MetztliXictli> jammcq: what is you distro run now?
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| 00:35 | <vagrantc> jammcq: yeah right :P
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| 00:35 | <jammcq> MetztliXictli: debian on my server at home, ubuntu on my servers at the office, and ubuntu on my laptop. Redhat on some customer servers
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| 00:35 | <jammcq> but no novell anywhere
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| 00:35 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: for moment, its not 100% in my instalation, if i access from /tm/.$USER/cdrom that's ok, but is I use Desktop icon the device unmout automatic in seconds...
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: yes, that's why you don't want to manually mount it.
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| 00:36 | IRCzito_home: because it auto-un-mounts every second or two
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| 00:37 | so you want automatic mounting
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| 00:37 | <jammcq> i'm sleepy. bed time for jammcq
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| 00:37 | <MetztliXictli> jammcq: whats is you distro for ltsp?
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| 00:37 | <petre> am I supposed to run depmod on the client?
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| 00:37 | <jammcq> "distro for ltsp' ?
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| 00:38 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: this is the last time i will say it, you should build your ltspfs package from the ubuntu sources, as it's *very* different from what's in cvs
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| 00:38 | <petre> If I run it at the server it keeps looking for the version directory that matches the server OS, not the ltsp kernel
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| 00:38 | <jammcq> petre: read the manpage on depmod again
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| 00:38 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: the tarball's ltspfs relies on that.
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| 00:38 | <jammcq> you can tell it what kernel version you are using
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> petre: you'll probably want something like ... chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 depmod -option1 -option2
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| 00:39 | <jammcq> shouldn't need to chroot it
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| 00:40 | <vagrantc> really?
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| 00:40 | <jammcq> depmod accepts -b pathname
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| 00:40 | to tell it where your root is
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| 00:40 | <vagrantc> ah well.
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| 00:40 | it's getting late here too :)
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| 00:40 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: I go study these scripts to see what I can make
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| 00:40 | <petre> is that the -v switch to specify the version? it's missing in the explanation in the man page
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| 00:40 | <jammcq> no
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| 00:40 | <IRCzito_home> thanks good night
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| 00:41 | <jammcq> -v == verbose
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| 00:41 | <MetztliXictli> vagrantc: tienes tiempo esta noche?
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| 00:41 | <jammcq> depmod -b /opt/ltsp/i386 2.6.17-ltsp-1
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| 00:41 | * vagrantc likes to use chroot because then you're using the tools appropriate to the distro | |
| 00:41 | <jammcq> something like that. adjust version as necessary
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| 00:41 | vagrantc: but he's using ltsp-4.2, no tools available :(
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| 00:41 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: no ... voy a dormir en un momento
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| 00:42 | <petre> right, i see now (yes, it is late)
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| 00:42 | <vagrantc> jammcq: you guys are weird :P
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| 00:42 | <jammcq> getting weirder all the time
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| 00:42 | g'nite all
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| 00:44 | <petre> that produced a modules.dep of a different size, so I'll test it out and let you know.
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| 00:44 | Thanks for the help
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| 01:10 | <andrew_> Is there any documentation to administer the LTSP server. A control panel?
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| 01:12 | <bgomes> andrew_: there are somo tools
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| 01:12 | <andrew_> explain
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| 01:12 | <bgomes> andrew_: on wiki page have many explain of this
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| 01:13 | <andrew_> I will lake a look. I am new to this!!!
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| 01:13 | <mistik1> Its AA
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| 01:14 | <bgomes> andrew_: I am link of ltsp-thinadmin
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| 01:14 | <mistik1> Another Andrew
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| 01:14 | <bgomes> I am like of ltsp-thinadmin
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| 01:14 | <andrew_> OK
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| 01:14 | Nice to meet you
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| 01:15 | <bgomes> andrew_: there are webmin module, there are webaplication
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| 01:15 | <andrew_> What would you sugest for a beginer
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| 01:16 | <IRCzito_home> Good Night guys, now i will go sleep :D
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| 01:17 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: :)
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| 01:18 | andrew_: ltsp-thinadmin is easy and complet
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| 01:18 | <IRCzito_home> Im so happy, local device works :D
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| 02:04 | <serentiy> on some thinclient i m getting ltsp nfs server not responding
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| 02:04 | while others are wroking good
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| 02:05 | thin client gets the ip and load kernel image too
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| 02:08 | nfs server 192.168.0.254 not responding, still trying
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| 03:18 | <lizk12> I have a problem. When my second ethernet card is connected to the internet the terminals won't boot. If I deactivate eth1 they boot correctly.
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| 03:19 | Can anybody help me to solve that?
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| 03:21 | By the way, when I start the server eth1 is not active although I had activated it and saved the changes the prevoius session.
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| 03:21 | Is anybody there?
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| 03:22 | <lizk12> Can you help me? I'm running K12Ltsp (Fedora 6) and I'm starting with Linux...
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| 03:32 | <lizk12> Can you help me
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| 06:35 | <IRCzito> jammcq: Good morning
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| 06:35 | jammcq: Are you here?
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| 10:33 | <liljohnpenguin> hello all
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| 10:33 | its been a long time since I visited
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| 10:34 | I am running ubutu in a VM and trying to boot pxe from another virtual machine
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| 10:34 | getting a tftp error
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| 10:34 | I dont think I have the diskless images setup correctly does this sound correct
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| 10:34 | * jammcq wonders why so many people are trying to do the vmware virtual server/client thing | |
| 10:35 | <liljohnpenguin> portablility
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| 10:35 | D/R planning it makes sense
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| 10:36 | but for the intents of this senario I am using it simply because of hardware availability is limited at the moment
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| 10:36 | <jammcq> it does work. I've been using vmware for developing LTSP for 5 or 6 years
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| 10:36 | so I know for sure, it can work
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| 10:36 | <liljohnpenguin> ok
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| 10:36 | good
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| 10:37 | can you point me to a tutorial or documentation that explains the boot process that occurs from the client side
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| 10:37 | <jammcq> which version of ltsp ?
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| 10:38 | <liljohnpenguin> just downloaded 5
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| 10:38 | using Ubuntu
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| 10:38 | <jammcq> hmm, documentation is pretty sparse at the moment for ltsp-5
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| 10:38 | <liljohnpenguin> should I back-off and use 4?
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| 10:38 | 4.x
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> but the pxe/etherboot booting is pretty much the same
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| 10:38 | <jammcq> well, that's totally up to you. both work with vmware
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| 10:39 | 2 weeks ago, I tested all of the ltsp-5 images using vmware
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| 10:39 | <liljohnpenguin> ok so use docs from earlier version then for 5?
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| 10:39 | should point me in correct direction/
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| 10:39 | ?
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| 10:39 | <jammcq> what problem are you having?
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| 10:39 | <liljohnpenguin> TFTP Error
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| 10:40 | <jammcq> that's it? nothing more?
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| 10:40 | <liljohnpenguin> well
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| 10:40 | thats as far as it gets on the client side
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| 10:40 | <jammcq> what else does the error say?
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| 10:40 | <liljohnpenguin> gets an IP from my ltsp DHCP server
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| 10:40 | then TFTP, File not found
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| 10:40 | <jammcq> well...... that tells us alot more
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| 10:41 | what do you have for 'filename' in your dhcpd.conf ?
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| 10:41 | <liljohnpenguin> PXE-T01: File not found
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| 10:41 | PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - file not found
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| 10:41 | OS not found etc
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| 10:41 | <jammcq> what do you have for 'filename' in your dhcpd.conf ?
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| 10:41 | this'll go a whole lot faster, if you answer the questions we ask
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| 10:42 | <liljohnpenguin> pxelinux.0
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| 10:42 | <jammcq> that's it? just 'pxelinux.0' ?
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| 10:43 | <vagrantc> grep filename /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
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| 10:43 | er.
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| 10:43 | grep filename /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 10:43 | <liljohnpenguin> what the heck
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| 10:44 | <jammcq> exactly
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| 10:44 | <liljohnpenguin> "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"
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| 10:44 | <jammcq> ah, there ya go
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| 10:44 | <liljohnpenguin> should be opt
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| 10:44 | <jammcq> no
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| 10:44 | is the virtual ubuntu server acting as your dhcp server?
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| 10:44 | <liljohnpenguin> yes
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| 10:45 | <jammcq> did you run: ltsp-update-kernels ?
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| 10:45 | <liljohnpenguin> nope
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| 10:45 | <jammcq> how did you install ltsp-5 ?
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| 10:45 | <liljohnpenguin> sudo apt-get install
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| 10:45 | <vagrantc> !ubuntuquick
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| 10:45 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ubuntuquick" is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 10:45 | <jammcq> did you run ltsp-build-client ?
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| 10:45 | <liljohnpenguin> yes
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| 10:46 | <jammcq> ok, on your virtual server, do this: ls -lR /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 10:47 | <liljohnpenguin> "/var/lib/tftpboot:
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| 10:47 | total 4
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| 10:47 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-25 17:45 ltsp
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| 10:47 | /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp:
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| 10:47 | total 0
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| 10:47 | "
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| 10:47 | <vagrantc> jammcq: ltsp-build-client runs ltsp-update-kernels, so that's not something that normally gets run manually.
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| 10:47 | course, it's harmless to run again
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| 10:47 | <jammcq> vagrantc: yeah, I know, but if he installed from tarballs, he'd need to run it
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| 10:47 | <vagrantc> jammcq: ah.
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| 10:47 | <jammcq> and apparently, he's got an empyt /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp directory
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| 10:47 | <vagrantc> indeed
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| 10:47 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: run this: ltsp-update-kernels
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| 10:48 | <liljohnpenguin> so run ltsp-update-kernels?
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| 10:48 | <vagrantc> jammcq: we should make an ltsp-build-client for the tarballs
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| 10:48 | <liljohnpenguin> ok
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| 10:48 | <jammcq> vagrantc: the tarballs are the RESULT of ltsp-build-client
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| 10:48 | <vagrantc> jammcq: or something similar
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| 10:48 | <jammcq> or at least most of the result
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| 10:49 | <vagrantc> jammcq: yes, i know. but when they're installing from a tarball, it would be nice to have a single script to call to handle some of the tasks like ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-kernels, maybe others
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| 10:49 | <jammcq> yeah, I agree
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| 10:49 | <liljohnpenguin> is that the syntax?
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| 10:49 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: yep
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| 10:49 | ltsp-update-kernels
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| 10:49 | <liljohnpenguin> hmmm
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| 10:50 | <MetztliXictli> hi speak spanish
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| 10:50 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: do this: ls -l /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 10:50 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: un poco
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| 10:50 | <liljohnpenguin> cp: cannot stat `/opt/ltsp/*/boot/vmlinuz*': No such file or directory
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| 10:50 | ok
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| 10:50 | <vagrantc> that'll do it.
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| 10:50 | * jammcq thinks ltsp-build-client didn't work | |
| 10:50 | <MetztliXictli> tengo un ltsp4.2 corriendo en debian etch y tengo problemas con un cliente
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| 10:51 | <liljohnpenguin> "total 72
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:02 bin
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:02 boot
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:03 dev
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 41 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:03 etc
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-22 10:00 home
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 initrd
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:02 lib
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 media
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| 10:51 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 10:51 | <liljohnpenguin> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-22 10:00 mnt
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 opt
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| 10:51 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: please use the pastbot
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| 10:51 | <liljohnpenguin> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-22 10:00 proc
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| 10:51 | <vagrantc> !pastebot
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| 10:51 | <liljohnpenguin> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 root
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:40 sbin
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 srv
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-05-21 14:46 sys
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| 10:51 | drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:02 tmp
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 usr
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| 10:51 | drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2007-03-16 15:01 var
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| 10:51 | <liljohnpenguin> ok
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| 10:51 | sorry
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| 10:52 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: que problemas?
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| 10:52 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: do this: ls -l /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
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| 10:52 | just tell me how many files are in that listing
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| 10:52 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "jammcq" (19 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/53
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| 10:53 | <liljohnpenguin> "total 100
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| 10:53 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94760 2005-10-25 05:32 memtest86+.bin
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| 10:53 | "
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| 10:53 | <jammcq> that's all ? just 1 file ?
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| 10:53 | <liljohnpenguin> I was going to ask if there is a new minimum memory requirement for the client
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| 10:54 | <MetztliXictli> vagrantc: i back
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| 10:54 | <liljohnpenguin> the last time I did this I booted from a 486 w/8mb of ram
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| 10:54 | yes
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| 10:54 | <jammcq> that won't fly with ltsp-5
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| 10:54 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: you can get it to work with 32mb, but you're better off with 48mb
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| 10:54 | <liljohnpenguin> should I try to re-run ltsp client setup?
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| 10:54 | <jammcq> looks like something failed during ltsp-build-client
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| 10:54 | liljohnpenguin: you didn't run out of space on your disk, did you?
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| 10:55 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: que problemas con los clientes?
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| 10:55 | <liljohnpenguin> I bet I may have
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| 10:56 | hold
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| 10:56 | <gepatino> hi, about the memory requirements for the client, is that related to the new ssh approach?
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| 10:56 | <vagrantc> gepatino: partially. but partially because the binaries are not as finely tuned
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| 10:57 | <jammcq> (yet)
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| 10:57 | <gepatino> I had some problems yesterday installing a ltsp server (ubuntu edgy) with 32mb clients
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| 10:57 | * vagrantc suspects it will be hard for each and every distro to tweak their binaries | |
| 10:57 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: nah, I did build a 20gb vm so thats fine
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| 10:57 | <jammcq> vagrantc: yeah, I agree
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| 10:58 | <gepatino> should i get better performance if run X --query, without ldm?
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| 10:58 | <liljohnpenguin> I am running the ltsp-build-client again
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| 10:58 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: welp, i'd blow away /opt/ltsp, and run ltsp-build-client again
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| 10:58 | <vagrantc> i already feel a little uncomfortable at how many init scripts we don't run.
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| 10:58 | <jammcq> vagrantc: and I feel uncomfortable at how many we DO run :)
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| 10:58 | <vagrantc> gepatino: probably better performance, but you'll loose some features.
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| 10:59 | <gepatino> i get that, but some terminals we have are 'really' old
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| 10:59 | <vagrantc> jammcq: it's just removing so many init scripts means it's more likely to do something weird from the distro perspective
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| 10:59 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: do you provide pro support
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| 10:59 | ?
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| 10:59 | <vagrantc> jammcq: it deviates more from "normal" behavior
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| 10:59 | <jammcq> but having so many, means its doing things a thin client really doesn't need to do
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| 10:59 | <gepatino> is there a developers forum or something like that? maybe i could help doing something
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| 10:59 | <vagrantc> right. that's the trade-off. more standard, or more customized
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| 10:59 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: my company http://www.DisklessWorkstatiosn.com provides professional support
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| 11:00 | <liljohnpenguin> can you discuss rates?
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| 11:00 | <jammcq> it's on the website
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| 11:00 | <liljohnpenguin> is it annual or hourly?
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| 11:00 | ok
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| 11:00 | thanks
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| 11:00 | <jammcq> hourly
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| 11:00 | <gepatino> i use ltsp since version 3 (maybe before)
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| 11:01 | and have some experience
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| 11:02 | and, no offense, yesterday i fell that ubuntu-ltsp is something where i could give a hand
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| 11:02 | <jammcq> it needs lots of hands
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| 11:02 | <gepatino> at least in edgy, it's not that clear how it works, at first sight
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| 11:02 | <jammcq> i'm not even sure how it works
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| 11:02 | * vagrantc has a pretty good idea | |
| 11:03 | <vagrantc> "how it works" is pretty broad sweeping, though.
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| 11:03 | <jammcq> "works well" is an answer
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| 11:03 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: where are you based?
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| 11:04 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: about 30 miles nw of Detroit, Michigan
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| 11:04 | <liljohnpenguin> in the stix eh?
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| 11:04 | <jammcq> the beautiful stix
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| 11:04 | <vagrantc> gepatino: what exactly is unclear? the only thing thats really significantly different is how you build the ltsp environment.
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| 11:04 | gepatino: and, i guess, LDM
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| 11:05 | <gepatino> that... ldm
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| 11:05 | <vagrantc> LDM is a frontend for "ssh -X"
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| 11:05 | <jammcq> vagrantc: under the hood, there's lots of changes
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| 11:05 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: I would really like to talk to you offline sometime
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| 11:05 | <gepatino> is it still possible to change ldm for some custom scritp, like the old screen.d directory?
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| 11:05 | <jammcq> where are you located?
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| 11:05 | <vagrantc> jammcq: yes, but it "works" largely the same. there's no huge conceptual changes in NFS, TFTP, DHCP, etc. configuration
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| 11:05 | <liljohnpenguin> Memphis, TN
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| 11:06 | <vagrantc> gepatino: yes, it supports screen.d scripts
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| 11:06 | <jammcq> vagrantc: well, yeah, I'll agree with that
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| 11:06 | <gepatino> Buenos Aires, Argentina :P
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| 11:06 | <jammcq> gepatino: wow, how's your summer going?
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| 11:07 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: one thing I wanted know, can you boot this across VPN yet im sure a MetroE would work fine, but what about slower links
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| 11:07 | <gepatino> it was quite hot, now we're entering autumm... 16-25 degress, rain...
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| 11:07 | <jammcq> vpn isn't something that LTSP does
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| 11:08 | <gepatino> does anyone know what enhancements are we getting in feisty, related to ltsp?
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| 11:08 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: no I mean if there is an existing IPSEC tunnel and a DHCP server in Detroit and I wanted to Boot at the other end here in memphis for EXAMPLE
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| 11:08 | <jammcq> running NFS over a WAN isn't a good idea
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| 11:08 | <liljohnpenguin> haha
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| 11:09 | <jammcq> sure it can be done
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| 11:09 | but who's got the time?
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| 11:09 | <vagrantc> gepatino: apparently, not a huge number of changes from edgy to feisty.
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| 11:09 | i guess a huge version bump.
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| 11:09 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: ran the ltsp-build-client and my screen is booting
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| 11:10 | <jammcq> cool
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| 11:10 | <gepatino> liljohnpenguin: i guess you could install all the client packages in a machine (with a disk, of course) and then connect it to the remote server
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| 11:10 | i think that should work
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| 11:10 | <liljohnpenguin> hmmm
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| 11:10 | <gepatino> vagrantc: and when you update the ltsp server to feisty, it's neccesary to rebuild the client, i'm wrong?
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| 11:11 | <vagrantc> gepatino: i think that's what they would recommend, though you could try just upgrading the client chroot
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| 11:11 | <gepatino> vagrantc: ok, thanks
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| 11:12 | are you developers of ltsp?
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| 11:12 | <vagrantc> gepatino: i work on ltsp in debian, and work closely with ogra, who works on ltsp in ubuntu
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| 11:13 | <liljohnpenguin> "IP-Config: eth0 hardware address 00:0c:29:71:98:6f mtu 1500 DHCP RARP"
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| 11:13 | hung here on boot
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| 11:14 | <gepatino> on monday i'm doing some more testing, after that i would like to help as far as i have some time
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| 11:14 | does developers meet here?
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| 11:14 | <vagrantc> largely
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| 11:14 | <gepatino> or is it some other channel?
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| 11:14 | <jammcq> "meet" here? we "live" here
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| 11:14 | <gepatino> jaja
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| 11:14 | <cliebow> 8`)
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| 11:15 | <gepatino> ok, i'll bring some pizza and beers
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| 11:15 | <cliebow> This is our social life
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| 11:16 | gepatino:please genuflect when jammcq speaks 8~)
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| 11:17 | <gepatino> genuflect? ... i'll go for my dictionary...
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| 11:17 | <jammcq> me too
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| 11:17 | <liljohnpenguin> ok I remember having this problem before, fails at mounting nfs
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| 11:17 | <gepatino> To bend the knee, as in worship.
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| 11:17 | <cliebow> that is the one
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| 11:18 | <gepatino> i thought it was some kind of cliebow's fetish :)
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| 11:18 | (english is not my first languagge)
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| 11:18 | <cliebow> probasbly so..jammcq pulled me from the black hole..five years ago
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| 11:19 | <jammcq> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genuflect
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| 11:19 | and now, cliebow is a fine example of an LTSPer
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| 11:19 | <cliebow> i try 8~)
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| 11:19 | * vagrantc didn't know jammcq had the power to subvert black holes | |
| 11:20 | * jammcq prefers donut holes | |
| 11:21 | <cliebow> have lappie..will trsvel
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| 11:21 | have laptop...will type
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| 11:22 | <gepatino> well people.. see you later
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| 11:22 | hope i could help some time
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| 11:22 | <vagrantc> look forward to it :)
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| 11:22 | <cliebow> do!
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| 11:23 | wireless ibooks are subverting my ltsp..
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| 11:24 | <liljohnpenguin> fo ubuntu I am not able to "sudo apt-get install mknbi" no available packages
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| 11:25 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: that's odd, http://packages.ubuntu.com/mknbi lists it as present in edgy and feisty in main
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| 11:25 | <liljohnpenguin> ill add that to sources list, hope thats all it is
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| 11:27 | <vagrantc> that's not a sources.list entry ...
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| 11:27 | and how you would have an ubuntu install without a main repository is beyond me
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| 11:27 | so what i'm saying is, it's very strange that you don't have mknbi available
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| 11:27 | <cliebow> liljohnpenguin, perhaps pastebot your sources.list
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| 11:28 | !p[astebot
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| 11:28 | <ltspbot> cliebow: Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
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| 11:28 | <cliebow> GAH..beat you
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| 11:29 | balls
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| 11:29 | !pastebot
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| 11:42 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "sudo apt-get install mknbi says package referred to by another name" (33 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/54
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| 11:44 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: "package referred to by another name" ? could you paste the exact text of the error message?
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| 11:46 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "mknbi error" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/55
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| 11:47 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: hrm.
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| 11:47 | liljohnpenguin: ah!
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| 11:47 | liljohnpenguin: you're on dapper.
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| 11:47 | liljohnpenguin: uncomment your "universe" lines in sources.list
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| 11:48 | liljohnpenguin: oh... you have ... have you run apt-get update after including the universe lines?
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| 11:48 | <PMantis> HI guys
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| 11:48 | <liljohnpenguin> will try again
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| 11:48 | * PMantis sips a cup of coffee and cracks eyes | |
| 11:50 | <liljohnpenguin> dang I never did the apt update
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| 11:50 | thanks!
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| 11:50 | works
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| 11:53 | <vagrantc> heh.
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| 12:02 | <cliebow> PMantis1!!
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| 12:02 | ?Hi
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| 12:08 | <liljohnpenguin> NBP is too big to fit in free base memory
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| 12:08 | hmmm?
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| 12:13 | <jammcq> liljohnpenguin: sounds like you are using PXE to load a kernel. instead, you shouuld be using PXE to load pxelinux.0
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| 12:13 | and then pxelinux.0 loads a kernel
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| 12:24 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: i am using the ubuntu docs
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| 12:25 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq: I changed my dhcp.conf back to load pxelinux.0 and I get what looks like a full boot and fails at nfs
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| 12:26 | <PMantis> jammcq, I'm stuck on one more thing... I thinks it's my last hurdle
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| 12:26 | jammcq, with a perl system call, can I change the current directory before calling?
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| 12:26 | <liljohnpenguin> "uncompressing linux.... OK, booting the kernel.
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| 12:27 | IP-config eth0 hardware address, ............ mtu 1500 DHCP RARP???
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| 12:28 | hangs
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| 12:28 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: maybe paste a copy of your pxelinux.cfg/default file, and your dhcpd.conf
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| 12:30 | <PMantis> Hmmm, chdir might work
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| 12:31 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "both" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/56
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| 12:32 | <jammcq> PMantis: sure, chdir
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| 12:33 | <PMantis> I found I had to call it before system...
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| 12:33 | system (cd /blah;./command) doesnt' work.
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| 12:34 | <liljohnpenguin> vagrantc: did you see?
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| 12:35 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: hmmm... so ... it gets to the IPConfig thing, and then sits there ?
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| 12:36 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 12:36 | I'm using ltsp 4.2, however i cant get audio working on X
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| 12:36 | I guess its working on the shell...
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| 12:36 | <liljohnpenguin> vagrantic
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| 12:37 | <liljohnpenguin> oops yes var
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| 12:39 | vagrantc: I see the ubuntu splash and loading vmlinuv, loading initrd.img, ready then that other stuff and hangs
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| 12:40 | <MrChicken> I do esdplay chimes.wav on the shell and I can hear nothing
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| 12:40 | alkthough no error is produceed
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| 12:53 | <cliebow> liljohnpenguin so you are past first dhcp...
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| 12:59 | <liljohnpenguin> cliebow, yes
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| 13:07 | <MrChicken> hello
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| 13:10 | I cant get X to play sounds... I can get sound on the shell (before typong startx)
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| 13:11 | can anybody help me?
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| 13:12 | <cliebow> liljohnpenguin i wonder if nfs is bothering..frst..in pxelinux.cfg is there an apend statement with splash and quiet enabled?
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| 13:13 | <cliebow__> liljohnpenguin..can you heasr me now?
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| 13:13 | <liljohnpenguin> oops
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| 13:13 | yes
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| 13:13 | I can hear you
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| 13:13 | looking
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| 13:15 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "cliebow" (15 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/57
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| 13:15 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: you might be better off with ubuntu edgy or feisty with ltsp ...
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| 13:15 | <liljohnpenguin> there is my pxelinux.cfg and dhcp.conf
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| 13:15 | <cliebow__> yes
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| 13:16 | i have a pos windows bos..this one..just cam up
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| 13:17 | <liljohnpenguin> vagrantc: what are those varients?
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| 13:17 | <cliebow__> if you can coment out quiet and spash you can better see where things are carrping out..maybe..but vagrantc is right..upgrade might very well be a help
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| 13:17 | <liljohnpenguin> gotcha
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| 13:17 | <cliebow__> splash gives you splash..quiet suppresses the messages you nedd
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| 13:18 | though i dont knw dapper at all..
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| 13:20 | i was thinking nfs..but sounds more like your card isnt well supportd in dapper?
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| 13:20 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#NFS_Server_not_responding
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| 13:20 | if nfs
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| 13:20 | !nfs
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| 13:20 | <ltspbot> cliebow__: Error: "nfs" is not a valid command.
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| 13:23 | <cliebow> ltspbot
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| 13:23 | !ltspbot
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| 13:23 | <ltspbot> cliebow: Error: "ltspbot" is not a valid command.
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: they are newer versions of ubuntu
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| 13:28 | <liljohnpenguin> ahh ok
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| 13:28 | is there a self contained ltsp distro I can install and bam done?
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| 13:29 | <cliebow__> well..not exactly..you can d/l edgy iso or a feisty alpha iso..edgy is nice..
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| 13:29 | <vagrantc> edubuntu should include ltsp by default
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| 13:29 | <liljohnpenguin> gotcha
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| 13:30 | would be nice to have a vmdk file for download on the site
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| 13:30 | just download and open with vmware
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| 13:30 | <cliebow__> that too..edu is very nice..if i were you i'd stay away from vmware til you are familiar with ltsp
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| 13:31 | <liljohnpenguin> ok
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| 13:31 | <cliebow__> there are some network gotchas i thinki n vmware..jammcq would know for sure..
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| 13:33 | or if you have broadband and feel adventurous you can upgrade to edgy pretty easily
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| 13:33 | by altering sources.list..apt-get update...apt-get -y dist-upgrade
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| 13:34 | several times usually
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| 13:34 | <liljohnpenguin> ok will try it
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| 13:35 | <cliebow__> if you cd /etc/apt
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| 13:35 | <liljohnpenguin> jammcq says no prob with vmwaer
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| 13:35 | vmware
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| 13:35 | <cliebow__> and do sed -e 's/edgy/feisty/g' -i sources.list
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| 13:36 | <liljohnpenguin> ok done
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| 13:36 | now?
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| 13:36 | update?
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| 13:36 | <cliebow__> apt-get update
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| 13:36 | apt-get -y dist-upgrade..it will take a lot of time
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| 13:38 | please someeone slap me up side of the head if i am leading this gentleman astray
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| 13:38 | <liljohnpenguin> SMACK!
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| 13:38 | lol
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| 13:38 | <cliebow__> 8!)
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| 13:38 | <liljohnpenguin> who said I was gentle
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| 13:39 | <cliebow__> well you arent spamming the channel to get attention like the last guy 8~)
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| 13:39 | <liljohnpenguin> but I do think I did a dist upgrade before ltsp install
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| 13:39 | <cliebow__> to whatever distro is specified in sources.list i am afraid
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| 13:39 | <liljohnpenguin> oh i must have missed that
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| 13:41 | really looks like when it gets to mounting root file system is where it bombs out
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| 13:41 | ahhhhh
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| 13:42 | i think I know what it is!!!!!!!
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| 13:42 | <cliebow__> so it seems to get address and root-path ..standing by
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| 13:42 | <liljohnpenguin> do I need any client hard disk space at all
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| 13:42 | or all ram?
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| 13:42 | <cliebow__> all ram
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| 13:42 | <liljohnpenguin> oh ok
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| 13:42 | <cliebow__> 128 is nice
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| 13:42 | <liljohnpenguin> im on 256
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| 13:43 | <cliebow__> you can watch logs on your server and see if it does first dhcp which is obviously ok..then second dhcp response where root-path is specified
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| 13:44 | <liljohnpenguin> hmmm ok
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| 13:44 | <cliebow__> if you see all four packets on second dhcp..then nfs is at fault
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| 13:45 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
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| 13:46 | that was for 4.2..but the idea is the same
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| 13:46 | <liljohnpenguin> /opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async)
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| 13:46 | thats mine
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| 13:46 | <cliebow__> great
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| 13:47 | <liljohnpenguin> should it be /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 13:47 | <cliebow__> no..
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| 13:47 | <liljohnpenguin> ok sorry
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| 13:47 | <cliebow__> cause you can put six different chroot filesystemes in ther if you like the way you have it
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| 13:48 | like /opt/ltsp/ppc /opt/ltsp/148-4.2
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| 13:48 | .
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| 13:49 | like /opt/ltsp/sparc
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| 13:49 | for clients of other persuasion
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| 13:50 | <liljohnpenguin> nfs isnt runnign
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| 13:50 | <cliebow__> that might be a problem..8~)
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| 13:51 | ahhh..back to feisty..
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| 14:22 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "bombs out at mounting root file system never says DONE" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/58
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| 14:26 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i396 -l initramfs-tools
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| 14:27 | <ltsppbot> "liljohnpenguin" pasted "response" (6 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/59
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| 14:28 | <liljohnpenguin> what is this?
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| 15:17 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 15:34 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: you've got a really old version of initramfs-tools ...
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| 15:42 | <liljohnpenguin> man I just downloaded ubuntu iso and installed
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| 15:42 | i fugured it would be mostly up to date
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| 15:42 | guess not
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| 15:44 | <vagrantc> liljohnpenguin: well, you downloaded the long-term support version of ubuntu ... a lot of improvements to the LTSP code were made after that was released.
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| 15:44 | well, after it was feature-frozen, i think.
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| 15:45 | <liljohnpenguin> i think im close to getting this working
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| 15:45 | but ok, ill try that
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| 16:09 | <petre> jammcq: ping?
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| 16:13 | <PMantis> jammcq, I got it finished! Now I just need to work on securing it.
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| 16:13 | jammcq, I'll tell you what it does, if you have time. :-)
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| 16:22 | <petre> I don't think jammcq is around
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| 16:22 | <PMantis> heh
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| 16:22 | * PMantis neither | |
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| 18:42 | <PMantis> jammcq, ping
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| 19:19 | <PMantis> HI ogra
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| 19:20 | ogra, Say... would you happen to know (of the top of your head) how much space a server install of Edgy takes?
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| 19:25 | <cliebow> PMantis:you use feisty...on a laptop..wireless?
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| 19:30 | <PMantis> Nothing beta here... except Gaim
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| 19:34 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 19:35 | <cliebow> jammcq!!!!!!!!!!
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| 19:36 | <jammcq> hey chucky
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| 19:41 | * Lumiere hands chucky a butchers knife | |
| 19:42 | <Lumiere> I noticed sbalneav had a couple bugs in on gobby
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| 19:42 | got my first taste of it today
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| 19:42 | I think a permenent sobby server might show up at school
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| 19:42 | and my boss might be forced into using it
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| 21:30 | <MetztliXictli> hi vagrantc
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| 21:30 | do you speak spanish?
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| 21:52 | <MetztliXictli> hi speak spanish
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| 21:55 | <bgomes> MetztliXictli: hi, I am speak in portugues, is very similar, what u do?
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| 21:57 | <MetztliXictli> bgomes: cuando intento hacer login en un terminal me repite los caracteres., ejemplo login:ccccllllliiiiiieeeeennnntttteee000001
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| 21:59 | <bgomes> MetztliXictli: eu já vi a solução disso em um forum brasileiro
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| 22:00 | bgomes: http://www.ltsp-br.org/forum/
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| 22:03 | <MetztliXictli> ok
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| 22:07 | <bgomes> MetztliXictli: http://www.ltsp-br.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50
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| 22:08 | <MetztliXictli> ok
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| 22:08 | miro
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| 22:09 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: hola
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| 22:09 | <MetztliXictli> hi vagrantc
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| 22:10 | tengo un problema con un think/client en ltsp4.2
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| 22:10 | <bgomes> MetztliXictli: qual o problema?
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| 22:10 | <MetztliXictli> cuando inicia gdm hago login:ccccclllliiieeennnttteee000111
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: GDM o LDM ?
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| 22:11 | <MetztliXictli> este es el problema.,login:ccccclllliiieeennnttteee000111
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| 22:11 | <bgomes> MetztliXictli: viu o link q ti mandei? la tem a solucao
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| 22:11 | <MetztliXictli> GDM
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> oh, si. GDM
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| 22:11 | <bgomes> (00:07:13) bgomes: MetztliXictli: http://www.ltsp-br.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50
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| 22:12 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: recuerdo este problema, pero no se reparar
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| 22:14 | <bgomes> vagrantc: só é preciso desligar o acpi via dhcp
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| 22:14 | <vagrantc> ah...
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| 22:15 | <bgomes> vagrantc: I am send link with the soluction of this problem
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| 22:15 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: usa PXE o etherboot ?
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| 22:15 | se PXE, es mas facil cambia pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 22:16 | <MetztliXictli> uso etherboot:img floppy?
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| 22:16 | <bgomes> vagrantc: look this ltsp-br.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50
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| 22:19 | <MetztliXictli> vagrantc: yo uso etherboot
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| 22:20 | gracias bgomes problema solucionado
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| 22:20 | <vagrantc> si.
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| 22:21 | <MetztliXictli> si vagrantc
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| 22:21 | ahora solo me falta activar LDA y sound in the thin-clients
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| 22:21 | <vagrantc> bgomes: we should document that on wiki.ltsp.org
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| 22:22 | MetztliXictli: conoce ...
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| 22:22 | !sound
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| 22:22 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 22:22 | <vagrantc> !checklist
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| 22:22 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 22:25 | <MetztliXictli> vagrantc: If you're using assigned addressing (i.e. you have host {} entries), make sure you're specifying:
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| 22:26 | no entiendo eso
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| 22:26 | yo tengo ip statica pero no comprendo que quiere decir
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| 22:27 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: miro ahora
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| 22:27 | MetztliXictli: que pagina?
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| 22:27 | <MetztliXictli> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting.
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| 22:30 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: no se... usa "use-host-decl-names on ;" o "get-lease-hostnames true;"
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| 22:30 | MetztliXictli: pero no los dos
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| 22:31 | MetztliXictli: creo que usa "use-host-decl-names on;" , pero no estoy seguro
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| 22:31 | <bogor> i have ltsp 1.4 setup on debian sarge. I upgraded the tftp & tried chenging the conf files, now the clients are not bootng. They hang at vmlinux....Any solution?
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| 22:31 | tftp is running
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> ltsp 1.4 ?
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| 22:31 | <bogor> dhcp is also running
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| 22:32 | <MetztliXictli> ok vagrantc
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| 22:32 | <bogor> sorry 4.2
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| 22:33 | <vagrantc> bogor: which tftp server?
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| 22:33 | <bogor> tftpd, tftpd-hpa
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| 22:33 | <vagrantc> bogor: grep filename /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
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| 22:34 | bogor: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 22:38 | <bogor> vagrantc: i am currently away from the server, i need some pointer to where to look for troubleshooting
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| 22:39 | what should i look for in inetd.conf & dhcpd.conf
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| 22:39 | <vagrantc> bogor: well, make sure your filename in dhcpd.conf is relative or full path, depending on how your tftp server is configured.
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| 22:40 | bogor: or, are you saying it gets as far as downloading the kernel, but stops there ?
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| 22:40 | probably easiest to get help if you can irc while you have access to the server, though.
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| 22:41 | <bogor> vagrantc: yes
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| 22:41 | <vagrantc> bogor: so ... are you using tftpd, or tftpd-hpa ?
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| 22:41 | <bogor> ok i will get to the server & then comeback, thanks vagrantc
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| 22:41 | tftpd-hpa
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| 22:41 | <vagrantc> i would recommend avoiding plain tftpd ... tftpd-hpa or atftpd are much nicer.
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| 22:42 | <bogor> tftpd-hpa is what thats used
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| 22:42 | <vagrantc> yes... your first answer was a little unclear though :)
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| 22:42 | <bogor> ok
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| 22:43 | <vagrantc> bogor: there's probably a wiki page for tftp on wiki.ltsp.org
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| 22:43 | !wiki
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| 22:43 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "wiki" is the LTSP wiki. You can find it at http://wiki.ltsp.org
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| 22:43 | <bogor> the line in inetd.conf for tftpd ends like in.tftpd -s /tftpboot/
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| 22:45 | dhcpd.conf has the line in host /lts/vmkernel<something here>
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| 22:45 | <vagrantc> that sounds about right ...
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| 22:46 | <bogor> what are the possible resaons that client could hang while bootstraping the kernel
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| 22:47 | sorry booting the kernel
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| 22:56 | <MetztliXictli> vagrantc: yoi can helpme with its
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| 22:57 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev-DebianEtch
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| 23:07 | !sound
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| 23:07 | <ltspbot> MetztliXictli: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 23:12 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: what help do you need?
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| 23:13 | <MetztliXictli> no entiendo como configurar el sonido en ltsp4.2
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| 23:18 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: no entiendo como configurar el sonido en ltsp4.2 tambien
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| 23:21 | <MetztliXictli> pero tu sabes ingles
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| 23:21 | <vagrantc> ah, si.
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| 23:21 | <MetztliXictli> te presto la liga y me podrias ayudar
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| 23:21 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 23:22 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: cual distro?
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| 23:23 | <MetztliXictli> debian etch
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| 23:24 | <vagrantc> hay mucho informacion
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| 23:24 | por que no usa ltsp5 ? :P
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| 23:25 | <MetztliXictli> el arranque es mas rapido in ltsp 4.2
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| 23:25 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: tiene SOUND=Y y SOUND_DAEMON=esd en lts.conf ?
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| 23:26 | MetztliXictli: que tarjeta de sonido tiene?
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| 23:28 | <MetztliXictli> nop no tengo
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| 23:28 | lo pongo
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| 23:33 | <vagrantc> MetztliXictli: gadi entiende mas de sonido con ltsp 4.2 ...
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| 23:36 | <MetztliXictli> ok vagrantc
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| 23:36 | eso no es prioridad por ahora
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| 23:37 | gracias vagrantc
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| 23:37 | <vagrantc> de nada
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| 23:57 | <MetztliXictli> vagrantc: usas debian etch_
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