IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 September 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:40 | <alkisg> New debian policy: "The default web document root is now `/var/www/html'"
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| 03:41 | ...tftp goes in /var/tftp?
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| 03:43 | <vagrantc> i didn't think there was a policy regarding tftp
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| 03:43 | <alkisg> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=485559
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| 03:43 | ==> Also, Russ Allbery[2] argued that using /srv/* might violate the FHS. So I've switched to /var/lib/tftpboot.
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| 03:43 | * alkisg shrugs... | |
| 03:49 | * vagrantc shrugs harder | |
| 03:56 | <alkisg> OK, at the end they seem to agree with /srv/tftp, but packages should not ship files there,
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| 03:56 | ...so we could switch our defaults there in ltsp6...
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| 04:01 | vagrantc: have you seen this one? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
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| 04:01 | ...is that an alternative to XSERVER=vesa? What would we need to put in lts.conf to use that?
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| 04:03 | <vagrantc> alkisg: my guess is it would only work with the KMS framebuffer
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| 04:04 | <alkisg> vagrantc: that's better than vesa though, right?
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| 04:04 | i.e. it would allow all resolutions, vt switching...
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| 04:04 | <vagrantc> for drivers that support it, i presume so
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| 04:05 | it's probably highly dependent on the driver
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| 04:05 | <alkisg> Wait, isn't that a generic driver to be used with vesa-compliant cards?
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| 04:05 | * vagrantc has no idea | |
| 04:05 | <alkisg> I thought its goal was to "replace" vesa xorg driver in the kms world
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| 04:08 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/modesetting
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| 04:35 | stgraber: # grep echo debian/40-ltsp
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| 04:35 | DESKTOP_SESSION=$(echo $1 | sed "s/gnome-session --session=//g")
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| 04:35 | That echo $1 there should be echo "$1"
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| 04:35 | It breaks Lubuntu logins, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/1330252
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| 04:35 | You're the only one with access to commit that, right?
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| 04:35 | (Ubuntu-specific...)
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| 04:37 | maxtrax: see above ^
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| 04:38 | <vagrantc> oh no, ive gone another huge release cycle without adding support for ltsp-config nfs
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| 04:39 | <alkisg> :)
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| 04:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you saw wouter fixed an issue with NBD copy-on-write support?
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| 04:41 | alkisg: so that you can set up the cow file in a separate location or something...
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> vagrantc: the one that allows specifying the temp file location/
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| 04:41 | <vagrantc> yeah
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> Right, we could do that before but only with symlinks
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| 04:41 | <vagrantc> right, which was ugly.
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> The problem with cow is that squashfs isn't writeable anyway
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| 04:42 | <vagrantc> but there are so many other filesystems
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| 04:42 | <alkisg> But now that btrfs is mainstream and stable enough, we could probably switch to btrfs-with-compression images
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| 04:43 | The other problem there, is what to do with the "remaining free space"
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| 04:43 | E.g. suppose a chroot is 1 GB uncompressed, 300 MB compressed with btrfs,
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| 04:43 | how large would the btrfs loopback image be? 1 GB?
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| 04:43 | Sparse?
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| 04:44 | With squashfs+tmpfs+aufs/overlayfs, we don't need to care about those questions...
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| 04:45 | Also, in the future, ssd disks are going to beat the lan speed by a long margin
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| 04:46 | We'll probably want to use them then, for local caching of the nbd image
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| 04:46 | So if we're going there, there's not much point in server-side cow anymore...
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| 05:04 | !lubuntu
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| 05:04 | <ltsp> Error: "lubuntu" is not a valid command.
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| 05:05 | <alkisg> !learn lbuntu-14.04 as `in Lubuntu 14.04, LTSP clients fail to login (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/1330252). Workaround: RCFILE_01="rm -f /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40-ltsp-client"`
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| 05:05 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 05:06 | <vagrantc> !gnuhurdubuntu
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| 05:06 | <ltsp> Error: "gnuhurdubuntu" is not a valid command.
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| 05:07 | * vagrantc is really curious what was messing with ~/.dmrc for that person earlier today | |
| 05:07 | <vagrantc> JuJuBee
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| 08:21 | <maxtrax> alkisg: thanks!
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| 08:22 | <alkisg> maxtrax: did you see my latest comment in the bug report?
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| 08:22 | DESKTOP_SESSION=$(grep -l "^Exec=$1\$" /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop 2>/dev/null | sed -n '1 s,.*/\(.*\)\.desktop,\1,p')
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| 08:23 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/1330252
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| 08:28 | <maxtrax> alkisg: yes, i'm on road atm, but i can test it later today and report back
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| 08:30 | <alkisg> Cool, don't forget to run ltsp-update-image after the change
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| 08:30 | <maxtrax> yep :)
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| 08:31 | <alkisg> Hi piet
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| 08:31 | <piet> hi, was trying to get You couple of days . . .
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> I had "work_alkisg" as the username you didn't see me ;)
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| 08:32 | <piet> sitting 20 km apart from office at the server with probs
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> But you left too quickly, I didn't have time to ping you
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| 08:32 | <piet> ok got that . .
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| 08:33 | Im in a hurry to solve the prob, because people here want to work . . .
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| 08:33 | <alkisg> Sure, let's go to PM
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| 08:33 | <piet> the menu doesn't show up and systems are not booting. Can U help?
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| 08:34 | pls. give link
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| 08:34 | <alkisg> I'm talking to you privately on another tab
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| 08:34 | Can you switch there?
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| 08:34 | <piet> ok how and where
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| 08:35 | <alkisg> run this: x11vnc -connect plinet.ioa.sch.gr
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| 08:41 | <vsuojanen> retrieving files and updates from archive.ubuntu.com is slow
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| 08:43 | I thought that there are problems with debootstrap but it looks like apt-get retrieve hangs also
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| 08:49 | <rickogden> hi alkisg, I know you’re busy, but have you had any more thoughts about the USB drive mounting issue?
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| 08:50 | <alkisg> rickogden: sorry, no time yet for that
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| 08:51 | <rickogden> alkisg: that’s no problem.
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| 10:01 | <rickogden> wacken
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| 10:05 | <rickogden> woops, wrong window.
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| 10:06 | alkisg: I think I’ve solved it, it’s a polkit issue.
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| 10:06 | <alkisg> Yes, we've committed a fix about that
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| 10:06 | So it shouldn't be a polkit issue anymore ;)
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| 10:06 | See the ltsp-trunk about polkit commits
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| 10:06 | <rickogden> when was that committed?
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| 10:06 | ah ok
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| 10:07 | has that been pushed to the repositories?
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| 10:09 | <alkisg> Before 14.04
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| 10:09 | What's your version again?
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| 10:10 | <rickogden> 12.04
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| 10:10 | ltsp-pnp
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| 10:12 | <alkisg> With the greek school ppa or not?
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| 10:13 | <rickogden> alkisg: yes :)
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> It should be ok then, the session is considered active
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| 10:14 | <rickogden> well, I’ve just added a pkla for a few udisks policies, set them all to “yes”, and that seems to have worked
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| 11:38 | <maxtrax> work_alkisg: DESKTOP_SESSION replace did not solve the problem
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| 12:20 | <cb_> hi guys
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| 12:21 | just one quick question: does the whole ltsp-cluster setup still work with ubuntu 14.04?
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| 12:21 | just asking because iam having a hard time getting the thin client booting
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| 12:22 | following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster tutorial
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| 12:22 | everything works, excapt that the thin-client freezes during startup
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| 13:40 | <alfubuntu> hello someone could help me to know how I see the contents of a local usb on a client with rdesktop and Windows
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| 19:14 | <gothaggis> what needs to be done to allow ssh to thin client from server? i generated keys, copied public key to thin client root (.ssh/authorized_keys) - updated thin client image....and when i try to ssh from server to a thin client (while specifying the key to use) i get 'read from socket failed: connection reset by peer". this is Ubunt 14.04 btw
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| 19:14 | last couple lines of ssh verbose:
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| 19:14 | debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
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| 19:14 | debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2
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| 19:14 | debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2
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| 19:14 | debug1: match: OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2 pat OpenSSH_6.6.1* compat 0x04000000
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| 19:14 | debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
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| 19:14 | Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
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| 19:15 | I enabled root account on thin clients
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| 19:15 | and PermitRootLogin is set to yes in sshd_config
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| 19:18 | <Hyperbyte> gothaggis, is sshd started on your clients?
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| 19:23 | <elias_a> Hyperbyte: Not before the voting has ended? :P
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| 19:42 | <gothaggis> Hyberbyte, sshd is indeed running on the client
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| 19:44 | and if i telnet to the thinclient on port 22 i get the SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2 prompt
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| 20:18 | <andygraybeal_> anyone hiring? here is my resume: https://knivesandchives.com/andy/resume
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