IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:22 | * vagrantc struggles with figuring out how to sanely handle the various combinations of local, remote and local+remote syslogging | |
| 00:34 | <vagrantc> maybe SYSLOG=remote (or empty) treat it as it is treated now ... which leaves the door open for SYSLOG=local causing it to read whatever file is configured.
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| 00:35 | the way it is handled now, is it blindly configures for only remote syslogging, which is a decent default (saves memory) but not very flexible.
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| 00:44 | * vagrantc looks for a comprehensive list of lts.conf variables | |
| 00:44 | <vagrantc> !topics
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| 00:44 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 00:44 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 00:44 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'pastebot', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'ltsp5', 'ltsp5', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', and 'integration'
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| 02:57 | <slipttees> hello
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| 02:57 | someone can help me ?
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| 02:57 | <vagrantc> only if you ask a question
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| 02:57 | <slipttees> XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling host unwinlling
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| 02:58 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn lts.conf as http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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| 02:58 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 02:58 | <slipttees> my SO= debian sarge+ltsp4.2
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| 02:58 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: lts.conf
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| 02:58 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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| 02:58 | <slipttees> ?
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| 02:59 | <vagrantc> slipttees: hrm. i've seen that error message once in a great while, but i never remember what it's about.
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| 02:59 | <slipttees> vagrantc: o_O
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| 03:00 | debian sarge+ltsp4.2+kde
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| 03:01 | !pastebot
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| 03:01 | <ltspbot> slipttees: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
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| 03:02 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn pastebot as unfortunately, the pastebot is currently broken. The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
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| 03:02 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 03:03 | <vagrantc> slipttees: you could try http://pastebin.ca and post the link here ...
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| 03:03 | slipttees: or there's other ones, too.
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| 03:04 | <slipttees> i't ok
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| 03:06 | http://pastebin.ca/361710
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| 03:08 | http://pastebin.ca/361714
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| 03:08 | vagrantc: ??
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| 03:08 | :(
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| 03:09 | <vagrantc> no idea, sorry.
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| 03:09 | <slipttees> ok
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| 03:09 | i can replace all confs ;)
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| 03:09 | <vagrantc> heh.
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| 03:10 | try debian/etch and the ltsp packages included with it :)
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| 03:10 | <slipttees> it' ok fo you vagrantc ?
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| 03:10 | <vagrantc> ?
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| 03:10 | <slipttees> bah!]
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| 03:10 | ltsp5 :(
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| 03:10 | sorry my ltsp5 is #$$#@
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| 03:10 | ltsp4.2 the best :D
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| 03:10 | <vagrantc> it's the only ltsp i know, really.
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| 03:11 | ltsp 5 that is ...
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| 03:11 | <slipttees> install scrap :(
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| 03:11 | <vagrantc> and i can claim to know all two implementations fairly well :)
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| 03:11 | <slipttees> much problem!
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| 03:12 | <vagrantc> slipttees: and ltsp 4.2 seems to be problem free :P
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| 03:12 | <slipttees> ltspadmin the best :D
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| 03:12 | nope..ubuntu 6.06 full work
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| 03:12 | :D
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| 03:12 | <vagrantc> it would be good to make an ltspadmin -like tool for ltsp 5
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| 03:12 | <slipttees> floopy,cdrom.pendrive,ipod :D
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| 03:13 | <vagrantc> should work with ubuntu 6.10
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| 03:13 | <slipttees> ltsp-build-client
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| 03:13 | <vagrantc> and isn't hard to get to work with debian/etch now.
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| 03:13 | <slipttees> :S
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| 03:13 | <vagrantc> slipttees: what's wrong with ltsp-build-client?
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| 03:13 | <slipttees> only two command for install :(
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| 03:14 | <vagrantc> you would prefer one command for install ?
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| 03:14 | <slipttees> nope
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| 03:14 | <vagrantc> you would prefer 1000 commands for install ?
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| 03:14 | <slipttees> install manual's best :)
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| 03:14 | ys ys
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| 03:14 | yep yep :F
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| 03:14 | :D
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| 03:15 | <vagrantc> slipttees: you are very different from most users then :P
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| 03:15 | <slipttees> :D
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| 03:15 | <vagrantc> most folks want it to be 0-1 steps.
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| 03:15 | <slipttees> ehhe :)
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| 03:17 | jammcq: ping
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| 03:17 | :$
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| 03:18 | XDMCP Error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling
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| 03:18 | :(
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| 03:18 | <nick125_lappy> 2/wi12
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| 03:18 | * nick125_lappy slaps tab complete | |
| 03:18 | <slipttees> what?
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| 03:19 | workstation screen return blinking blinking
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| 03:19 | xserver failed, press <Enter> to continue
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| 03:19 | 5seg later
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| 03:19 | blinking blinking
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| 03:20 | xserver failded, press <enter> to continue
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| 03:20 | :'(
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| 03:20 | i already replace all confs
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| 03:20 | * slipttees killin myself! bah bah! | |
| 03:22 | <slipttees> :'(
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| 03:22 | f*ck*ins screen error arrgg :@
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| 03:23 | wopps
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| 03:24 | The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
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| 03:25 | <vagrantc> slipttees: your "Manager unwilling host unwilling" error is probably your real problem.
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| 03:26 | <slipttees> > Warning: Type " ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols Errors fro xkbcomp are not falal to the X server
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| 03:27 | Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling
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| 03:27 | :(
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| 03:29 | aarrgg :@
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| 03:29 | I give up! :(
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| 03:29 | * slipttees reinstall ubuntu 6.06.1 :S | |
| 03:30 | <slipttees> clear
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| 03:30 | woops
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| 03:30 | :S
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| 03:30 | vagrantc: thanks for all!
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| 03:31 | see ya
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| 03:31 | <vagrantc> slipttees: i try :)
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| 03:31 | <slipttees> =]
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| 05:34 | <freemind> helo folks...
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| 05:35 | i need to know if someone do a web interface for manage ltsp?
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| 05:36 | no like webmin module but with admin, teacher and user session in some user's cases
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| 05:51 | <sepski> freemind, you can look at lwat, or cipux, or phpldapadmin, or gosa
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| 05:51 | opps i read ltsp as ldap
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| 05:51 | all those are for ldap sorry :)
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| 05:57 | <freemind> oops...
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| 05:57 | hi...
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| 05:58 | hehehe ok...
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| 06:43 | <cliebow> freemind:yes;;Gadi has a symbiont app based on webmin
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| 06:48 | <freemind> hi...
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| 06:53 | reading on http://termserv.berlios.de/ltsp-module/
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| 06:53 | i'm see the module are just for client configuration
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| 08:03 | <cliebow> freemind:yes i think that is right
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| 08:04 | ive been thinking bout a perl cgi module for dhcpd.conf..perhaps libertaed from smoothwall
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| 08:04 | <freemind> i will struct better what i wanna say
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| 08:04 | <cliebow> k
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| 08:05 | <freemind> tks :-)
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| 08:06 | <cliebow> i know just enough to be dangerous...
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| 09:25 | <gmanic> hi, havin trouble with a printer at a workstation - lp_server is dying all the time and printing does not work (parallel printer on lp0) - hints?
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| 09:33 | <cliebow> if ubuntu..might want to speak to ogra..
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| 09:36 | <gmanic> sorry to bother, now i found it - module lp and parport not loaded on workstation... god damn, how could i be such an idiot... ;-)
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| 11:50 | <slipttees> !pastbot
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| 11:50 | <ltspbot> slipttees: Error: "pastbot" is not a valid command.
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| 11:50 | <slipttees> !past
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| 11:50 | <ltspbot> slipttees: Error: "past" is not a valid command.
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| 11:50 | <slipttees> arrgg :@
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| 11:51 | !pastebot
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| 11:51 | <ltspbot> slipttees: "pastebot" is (#1) The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp, or (#2) unfortunately, the pastebot is currently broken. The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the (1 more message)
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| 12:58 | <slipttees> vagrantc:
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| 12:58 | :)
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| 12:58 | http://pastebot.nd.edu/1774.
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| 12:58 | Unwilling
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| 12:58 | about session XDMCP KDE male! ;)
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| 13:01 | vagrantc:
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| 13:01 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/XDMCP-KDM
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| 13:07 | <slipttees> shit! :@
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| 14:08 | <rossman> I have two quick questions here.
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| 14:08 | 1) where do I set the login screen that ltsp uses? I set it in the administration panel, but it's not using the one I set for remote login.
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| 14:09 | 2) isn't there a gnome default in the config somewhere that limits the number of possible logins at one time? And shouldn't I change that to some very large number to allo9w for all my people to login?
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| 15:26 | <mistik1> greetings
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| 15:42 | <chupacabra> yo mistik1
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| 15:43 | you need a laugh?
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| 15:43 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIjjWXstjZc
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| 15:55 | * mistik1 boycotts youtube | |
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| 16:02 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 16:05 | <chupacabra> oic
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| 16:38 | <cliebow> mistik1: does your distro define an env variablr named HARDWARE_PLATFORM?
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| 16:40 | <mistik1> mistik1@firelinks ~/chroots $ echo $HARDWARE_PLATFORM
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| 16:40 | mistik1@firelinks ~/chroots $
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| 16:40 | guess not
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| 16:41 | <cliebow> i can set HARDWARE_PLATFORM=1386? right syntax?
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| 16:41 | <mistik1> export
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| 16:42 | <cliebow> ahhh
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| 16:42 | <mistik1> not set I would think
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| 16:44 | <dberkholz> mistik1: i am here for a min
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| 16:45 | <mistik1> dberkholz: hey man, I'm sorry about the other day, I asked to speak with you then the phone started ringing ;)
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| 16:46 | <dberkholz> mistik1: another option from mkxf86config is to use `system-config-display --noui`, which is about the same as i expect red hat to use
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| 16:46 | <mistik1> dbe: I am now working on the ltsp-client.ltsp-client-setup.init
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| 16:47 | <jamie> any one tell me how to start the sound server esd on the client?
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| 16:47 | <mistik1> dberkholz: this is in portage?
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| 16:47 | <dberkholz> mistik1: yes
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| 16:48 | <mistik1> hmm
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| 16:48 | <dberkholz> mistik1: all the modular X drivers now install files to /usr/share/hwdata, which it uses
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| 16:49 | <mistik1> bah masked
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| 16:50 | Well What I had going here used hwdata to discover the devices but I was scripting to provide the custom options from lts.conf
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| 16:51 | Do you know if s-c-d supports dual head configs?
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| 16:59 | <dberkholz> mistik1: masked? shouldn't be ... maybe ~arch
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| 16:59 | mistik1: mm, i think it's supposed to. i can't test how well it works
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| 17:01 | <mistik1> dberkholz: I think it it would work just as nicely with what i'm doing here when we get a chance to test it
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| 17:02 | Everything I do for the custom options is done after the file is generated so it will patch in fine
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| 17:02 | <dberkholz> mistik1: sure, it's just a question of how much gentoo actually has to support stuff, versus letting someone else take care of it
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| 17:03 | we basically maintain our own hwdata database now, hwdata-gentoo, which mkxf86config uses
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| 17:03 | so if it's out of date, then ltsp won't work right
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| 17:03 | but system-config-display and the hwdata files for it are hopefully kept nicely up to date by red hat
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| 17:04 | <mistik1> understood
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| 17:10 | <dberkholz> they also need to be imported into gentoo regularly, but since that isn't as much work, it theoretically should be easier
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| 17:13 | <mistik1> very nice, The package pulls in all of the xorg modules
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| 17:15 | <jamie> any on tell me which .conf to edit to tell gnome to use esd?
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| 19:09 | <jammcq> petre: hey, what are the dates for the linux fest you are setting up?
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| 19:29 | <petre> jammcq: June 14 & 15
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> ok
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| 19:32 | thanks
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| 19:32 | <petre> will you be able to make it?
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> dunno yet
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| 19:32 | june is pretty busy
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| 19:33 | <petre> yeah, I know
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| 19:33 | we like to wait until school is out, which means the middle of June here
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| 19:33 | but if we wait too long, say, July, then we lose people to vacations, etc.
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| 19:35 | Just remember: Murray's, "Home of the silver butterknife steak" is calling ;-)
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| 19:46 | <dan__t> hi
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| 19:53 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i was planning on modularizing the ltsp-client init scripts much like the ltsp-build-client parts ...
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| 20:53 | <petre> on edubuntu, do I modify the grub menu by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
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| 20:56 | <vagrantc> most likely.
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| 20:57 | that's what you would typically edit on a debian system, anyways ...
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| 20:57 | <petre> vagrantc: thanks. I'm used to fedora where menu.lst is just a symlink to grub.conf
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| 20:57 | but my edubuntu doesn't seem to have a grub.conf
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| 20:58 | <vagrantc> yes, there's some stupid double-comment stuff in debian-based systems' menu.list file that should really be split into a separate configuration file...
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| 20:59 | <petre> okay, I'm off to test my new grub menu
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| 20:59 | bbs, I hope ;-)
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| 22:40 | <knight> hi all
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| 22:40 | ltsp under Xubuntu
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| 22:40 | has the issue of the thin clients been fixed
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| 22:41 | <vagrantc> what version of xubuntu ?
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| 22:45 | <vagrantc> and, what issue?
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| 23:13 | <knight> dapper
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| 23:13 | the one with the thin clients turning off the server
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| 23:14 | <vagrantc> turning off the server how ?
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| 23:15 | <knight> when they log o
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| 23:15 | off
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| 23:16 | the thin clients have the option to turn off the server
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| 23:16 | <vagrantc> like, the user clicks on "shutdown" or something like that?
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| 23:20 | that would seem like you need to configure something in xfce (or whatever xubuntu uses) to disable users from being able to shut down the server...
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| 23:20 | <knight> oh ok
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| 23:20 | you see
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| 23:20 | <vagrantc> i think something like that was fixed for ubuntu edgy, not sure if xubuntu edgy got the fix...
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| 23:20 | <knight> oh ok
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| 23:20 | only for edgy
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| 23:20 | though???
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| 23:21 | <vagrantc> well, i don't use ubuntu, so i'm just going on what i've heard. nothing solid.
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| 23:23 | <knight> ohok
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| 23:42 | <slipttees> hi all
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| 23:43 | * slipttees XDMCP faltal error: Manager Uunwillinh Host Unwilling | |
| 23:43 | <slipttees> ?
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| 23:44 | * slipttees using kubuntu+ltsp4.2 | |
| 23:44 | <slipttees> somebody?
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| 23:44 | <knight> hey
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| 23:45 | <slipttees> woops ?
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| 23:45 | :D
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| 23:45 | <knight> you dont have xdmcp runnign
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| 23:45 | ???
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| 23:45 | <slipttees> what?
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| 23:45 | i wont edit /etc/kd3/kdm/kdrmc
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| 23:45 | <knight> What I mean to say iis
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| 23:46 | <slipttees> <xdmcp>
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| 23:46 | true
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| 23:46 | :)
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| 23:46 | <knight> ??
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| 23:46 | <slipttees> knight, firewall block service?
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| 23:46 | <knight> well there you go
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| 23:47 | did not even need to find the answer
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| 23:47 | <slipttees> I do not know
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| 23:49 | <knight> oh ok
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| 23:49 | you cant edit the file you are telling me right
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| 23:49 | can you paste the file on the pastebot
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| 23:49 | http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 23:51 | <slipttees> knight, error load pag
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| 23:52 | knight,
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| 23:52 | http://pastebot.nd.edu/1780.
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| 23:52 | <knight> yeah I see
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| 23:52 | lol
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| 23:53 | oh ok
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| 23:54 | <slipttees> ???
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| 23:54 | <knight> you tell me that by typing sudo vi /etc/kd3/kdm/kdrmc
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| 23:55 | you cant edit the file
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| 23:55 | <slipttees> what?
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| 23:55 | cant?
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| 23:55 | why?
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| 23:55 | edit only xdmcp session!
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| 23:56 | <knight> thats what you did
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| 23:56 | <slipttees> ok ok
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| 23:56 | <knight> then it should be no problem
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| 23:56 | if you enabled the xdmcp
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| 23:57 | <slipttees> [Xdmcp]
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| 23:57 | # Default is true
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| 23:57 | Enable=true
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| 23:57 | only edit this!
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| 23:57 | <knight> oh ok
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| 23:57 | did you restart the server?
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| 23:57 | <slipttees> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/XDMCP-KDM
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| 23:58 | reboot PC
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| 23:58 | i'll back
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| 23:59 | <knight> oh ok
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| 23:59 | cool
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| 23:59 | i am here
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