IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 28 April 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:16 | <gvy> halo
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| 02:52 | <gvy> vanya, ! :)
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| 02:52 | <vanya> gvy, hi
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| 06:23 | <cliebow> J45p3r, g uess we gotta fix that huh
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| 06:37 | <cyberorg> howdy cliebow
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| 07:01 | <cliebow> howdy1
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| 07:19 | <J45p3r> yea, don't want LDAP filling up
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| 07:19 | <cliebow> anything big you know of there? i got it down to 95%
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| 07:20 | no logs too big now
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| 07:22 | <J45p3r> now, I'm not sure what it might be... maybe NWEA?
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| 07:23 | <cliebow> yeah.. want to just leave the folder intact?
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| 07:23 | <J45p3r> yea, if we could just move it somewhere else that'd be fine
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| 07:23 | <cliebow> 424 meg
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| 07:24 | ill tar it and put in err err..
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| 07:24 | heck puffin?
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| 07:24 | <J45p3r> works for me
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| 07:24 | <cliebow> k tarring'
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| 07:33 | <cliebow> 93%
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| 07:46 | <J45p3r> cliebow: how do I list a folders size?
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| 07:46 | <cliebow> du -h
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| 07:47 | 91%
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| 07:47 | that s all for now
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| 07:48 | <J45p3r> what do you know about /var/spool/clientmqueue ?
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| 07:48 | 1.1G
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| 07:48 | <cliebow> nothing 8~)
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| 07:48 | <J45p3r> there are tons of files in there, all pretty small, but it adds up I guess
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| 07:51 | <cliebow> When submitting mail by using sendmail as a mail submission program,
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| 07:51 | sendmail copies all messages to /var/spool/clientmqueue first.
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| 07:52 | id be tempted to set em aside.then throw em out if nothing breaks
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| 07:52 | if sendmail isnt running they accumulate
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| 08:09 | <J45p3r> yea, that's the same thing I found, sounds like a good idea
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| 08:14 | <cliebow> col
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| 08:15 | /col/cool
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| 11:11 | <milosz> so anyways, i'm trying to figure out which server i should pick to be the best one
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| 11:11 | in my automatic server picking code
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| 11:11 | but i haven't come to go solution yet
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| 11:13 | right now the values i have to play with are: responce time, number of cpus, load, memory used and physical memory on the server
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| 13:36 | <jammcq> hello all
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| 13:37 | <gvy> hi jamm
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| 13:38 | milosz, and?
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| 13:41 | <jammcq> I just reloaded my laptop. it takes forever to get moved into a new install
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| 13:49 | <gvy> hm, what happened to usual dist-upgrade? my apt (apt-rpm) handles that just ok
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| 13:50 | <jammcq> i've been running feisty since about february. but somewhere along the way, some updates didn't go very well. Some things just weren't working properly, so I decided on a complete re-install, before heading to spain for the uds
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| 13:50 | so far, the things that weren't working, are now working beautifully
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| 13:50 | and it seems to boot up and shutdown MUCH faster now
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| 13:51 | <gvy> ugh. sad if ubuntu heads right into windowsish 3R way
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| 13:51 | i mean "leads its unsuspecting users"
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| 13:51 | <jammcq> I think it's more a matter of using a beta version, and having updates get screwed up
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| 13:52 | <gvy> jammcq, well i'm on altlinux unstable for years
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| 13:52 | the only problems which would require final "re" were disk-related...
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| 13:52 | when root partition could be trusted no more
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| 13:53 | <jammcq> there were some gnome updates that failed on me back in march
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| 13:53 | since then, things have been problematic
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| 13:53 | if I clicked on the shutdown icon, the screen would freeze
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| 13:53 | launching gnome took about 60 seconds
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| 13:53 | gdm themes where messed up
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| 13:54 | i'm much happier now
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| 13:54 | <gvy> well, in the end it's the system that should serve the user, not the other way around, so 'grats :)
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| 13:55 | but that *seems* like resolver troubles (or something like that, network timeouts tend to result in "freezes" for something in between of 30 to 180 seconds usually)
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| 13:55 | <jammcq> yeah, I know how that goes, but I don't think that was the issue
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| 13:55 | sometimes gconfd would die on me
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| 13:56 | <gvy> i've usually solved weird problems within 3 hours -- when reinstall wouldn't be a sport...
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| 13:56 | <jammcq> i'm a firm believer of a good re-install every once in a while
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| 14:21 | <cliebow> jammcq: hmm my scren still freezes on logout..i also been running feisty since Feb..perhaps....
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| 14:27 | <jammcq> cliebow: does it freeze as soon as you hit the 'Shutdown' button ?
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| 14:35 | brb, gotta reboot to test gdm config
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| 14:39 | <cliebow> i think it feezes when the gtk window comes up
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| 14:43 | <cliebow> that and the gnome session manaager puking
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| 14:51 | <mistik1> hey Jim
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| 14:51 | <jammcq> hey mistik1
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| 14:51 | how ya doing?
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| 14:52 | <mistik1> Do you have a more recent copy of killerwall that the one you're running?
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| 14:52 | I'm doing pretty good
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| 15:02 | <milosz> gav, and?
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| 15:03 | i'm stuck of thinking where to go next
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| 15:04 | my idea is to trow away all the server that a) don't respond b) respond too slow c) have more memory used then they have availble (swap) d) load is more then number of processors
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| 15:04 | and then pick the one with least users... from the reamining ones
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| 15:04 | <gvy> milosz, ah, so multiserver configuration
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| 15:05 | was thinking a bit different thing...
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| 15:05 | * gvy runs ltsp in openvz containers | |
| 15:05 | <milosz> but that dosen't account very well for if all your machines are busy
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| 15:06 | <jammcq> busy? or too busy?
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| 15:06 | <milosz> gvy: it would work for you if you wanted to run multiple ltsp servers in diffrent containers and have things work auto magicaly
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| 15:06 | busy
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| 15:06 | <jammcq> milosz: there should be a config file, with settings for 'Skip hosts that are swapping', 'Skip hosts that don't answer query'
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| 15:06 | <milosz> jammcq: i thought about that too
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| 15:07 | <gvy> milosz, well we're planning to roll out second container as the first one is production and ok
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| 15:07 | then add disks and two more gigs of ram and add another twenty users
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| 15:07 | it's 2x2 core opterons
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| 15:07 | <milosz> i've had some weighted averages (did a couple diffrent statistical formulas)
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| 15:08 | <gvy> milosz, is there a wiki page on that? might be very convenient to get people who would need/do the same
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| 15:09 | <milosz> no there is non, the code is like 90% there, i can publish the branch on www
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| 15:09 | <gvy> thanks
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| 15:09 | <milosz> sure
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| 15:10 | jim, like how would like to have it behave
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| 15:10 | since you've setup plenty of deployments i figure you'd have a good insight
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| 15:12 | * jammcq wonders how many deployements people think he's setup | |
| 15:13 | <milosz> okay, jim i'm at one real one... so i'm thinking more then me
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| 15:13 | <jammcq> heh, so i've done twice as many as you :)
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| 15:13 | * gvy two LTSPs and something like a dozen of homegrowns | |
| 15:14 | <gvy> production, i mean
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| 15:14 | <jammcq> yeah, if I count my house, it's a grand total of 3
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| 15:14 | <milosz> anyways our setup here will this summer time will include 5 boxes total for thin client servers
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| 15:14 | we're getting 3 more boxes, dual quad-cores
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| 15:14 | <gvy> our office... national institute of cybernetics... and all over ukraine
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| 15:15 | <jammcq> milosz: sounds cool. is school out yet?
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| 15:15 | <milosz> yeah it is
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| 15:15 | <gvy> milosz, sometimes lightening the desktop helps more than multiplying cores
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| 15:15 | <milosz> in our case people run a lot of scientific applications
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| 15:15 | <gvy> e.g. dump gnome/ubun... and kick e.g. xfce in
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| 15:16 | <milosz> so our desktop cpu/memory usage is neglible
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| 15:16 | <gvy> ah
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| 15:16 | incyb has a 80-node cluster. :)
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| 15:17 | <milosz> i'll be in california for the next two months
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| 15:17 | and then i'm moving to ann arbor
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| 15:18 | but i'm taking one of the thin clients boxes
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| 15:18 | cause it's fun to hack on them
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| 15:18 | <gvy> actually the first bunch of terminals deployed is exactly for cluster folks
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| 15:18 | milosz, yeah
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| 15:18 | a colleague hacking on ltsp5 looked an picoITX mobo
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| 15:18 | <milosz> i'm thinking coming out with something way smater for version 2.0 using xmove to let people suspend their session and resumee them
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| 15:19 | <gvy> seems like he wants his hands on it. :)
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| 15:19 | milosz, nx?
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| 15:20 | <milosz> well for us at school it be extending the multi server infastructure to allow people to sit on one thin client "susspend" the session and come back to the diffrent one
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| 15:20 | and eventualy i'm planing to include nx support
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| 15:20 | <gvy> would be nice to hear back from you, very interesting a topic
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| 15:20 | <milosz> since nx is a hack, but it's simple and elegant (in some casses)
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| 15:21 | yeah man, i'm always around
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| 15:22 | i'm also thinking of buying a linuxtop
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| 15:22 | since that one uses linux bios, i'd like to adapt it for ltsp; mostly for the 10 second bottime i could get out of it
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| 15:24 | some of the epia mobos are supported too, so i might buy one of your thin clients with intention of getting it working (or breaking it, whatever comes first)
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| 15:44 | <mistik1> hey guys, could one of you give me a portscan
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| 15:45 | <jammcq> mistik1: whaddya need?
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| 15:47 | <mistik1> I need to test my settings
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| 15:48 | <jammcq> tell me what to scan, and I'll do it
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| 15:48 | <mistik1> 69.114.245.233
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| 15:48 | that's the IP
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| 15:48 | <jammcq> any special args to nmap you want?
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| 15:48 | <mistik1> not sure
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| 15:49 | I'm no nmap guru
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| 15:49 | Just throw everything you can at me
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| 15:49 | <jammcq> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0
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| 15:49 | Nmap finished: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 4.052 seconds
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| 15:49 | <mistik1> ping scan definately wont work
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| 15:49 | try as they say, -P0
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| 15:49 | <jammcq> i'm no nmap guru either
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| 15:49 | it's running now
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| 15:50 | <mistik1> ok
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| 15:51 | <milosz> gvy, my work will be availble @ http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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| 15:51 | as soon as dns propages
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| 15:54 | <mistik1> jammcq: still scanning?
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| 15:55 | <jammcq> All 1697 scanned ports on ool-4572f5e9.dyn.optonline.net (69.114.245.233) are filtered
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| 15:55 | Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 341.611 seconds
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| 15:55 | that's all it says, so...... seems like your firewall is working
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| 15:56 | <mistik1> excellent!, thanks man
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| 15:57 | I did not even so much as see anything in my log
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