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Channel log from 20 November 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:44 | <vicd> Hi All, first of all sorry for my english
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| 01:44 | i'v got question
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| 01:46 | my looks like http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg37462.html
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| 01:47 | <vicd> problem with nfs root mount on ltsp clients
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| 01:47 | ubuntu karmic
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| 02:53 | <alkisg> vicd: what problems?
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| 02:54 | <vicd> my?
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| 02:55 | like this http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg37462.html
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| 02:57 | <alkisg> vicd: udhcpc had some problems with spaces in the variables
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| 02:57 | Unfortunately, the fixed got uploaded after the Karmic release
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| 02:58 | So now you have to use a PPA or something, to get the fixed udhcpc...
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| 02:58 | vicd: here's the corrected code: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files/head%3A/client/initramfs/scripts/init-premount/
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| 02:59 | <vicd> not all problems only mountall exit status 1
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> Put that in the chroot, and run update-initramfs -u in the chroot and then ltsp-update-kernels outside of it
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| 02:59 | <vicd> will it help?
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> It will solve this: "The line I get is something like: /init: export line 15 <ip address of secondary dns server>: bad variable name "
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| 03:00 | * alkisg continues reading on with the problem... :) | |
| 03:01 | <alkisg> * there's also the hostname script problem...
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| 03:02 | <vicd> it is
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| 03:02 | <alkisg> * and mountall...
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| 03:02 | <vicd> it is
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| 03:03 | <alkisg> Ah, you're Bettina from the mailing list, right :)
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| 03:03 | <vicd> my server on OpenSuse10.3
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| 03:03 | <alkisg> You mean your nfs server?
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| 03:03 | <vicd> no i'am not
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| 03:03 | i am not bettina
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| 03:03 | <alkisg> OK I read "--Bettina"...
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| 03:04 | But you're having the same problem?
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| 03:04 | <vicd> yes my nfs server on Suse
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| 03:04 | <alkisg> And you're having the same problem with Bettina?
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| 03:04 | (exactly?)
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| 03:04 | <vicd> i have only problem with hostname and mountall
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| 03:05 | on client side
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| 03:06 | <alkisg> Hmmm it seems that something is broken with nfs & karmic then... if 2 people are having the same problems
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| 03:06 | <vicd> i have found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/430348
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| 03:07 | <alkisg> I'll have a look here locally, i.e. I'll try nfs on karmic. Will you be around, or come later on?
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| 03:07 | <vicd> yes i will
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| 03:07 | <alkisg> ok, talk to you later on then...
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| 03:07 | <vicd> ok
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| 03:33 | <alkisg> vicd: yup, I saw the problems... looking to fix them now..
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| 03:33 | <vicd> :)
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| 03:33 | <alkisg> vicd: do file bugs on launchpad for those bugs
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| 03:33 | So that I can propose patches there
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| 03:34 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
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| 03:35 | <vicd> me to do this?
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| 03:35 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 03:38 | <vicd> my english is so bad :)
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| 03:39 | <vicd> but i will try
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| 04:37 | <din_os> I am more under the impression that delays on right clicking for menus on some applications (ff, gimp) is not a bug but is caused by buffering, sometimes, too many submenus for more instantaneous behavior when loaded, is there an option to maybe disable/decrease this buffer? (if it exists)
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| 04:38 | <alkisg> vicd: the problem happens *after* the ltsp initramfs finishes executing, and it seems to me that it's related to the upstart switching that happened in Karmic. Sorry, but I don't know upstart well enough to help there... :(
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| 04:38 | (I guess it has to do with the dependencies, i.e. ltsp-client-init should run before mountall, but I don't know how that should be done)
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| 04:39 | din_os: jaunty? it was fixed in karmic...
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| 04:39 | <din_os> yup! hmm, any temp fix for me until I upgrade?
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| 04:40 | <alkisg> Sure, use our ppa :)
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> (din_os: take your time in upgrading... I think Karmic causes more problems than it solves ;))
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| 04:42 | <din_os> I always take my time in upgrading :) (still waiting for W7 SP1)
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| 04:42 | <alkisg> The package that solves the delay problem is libxcb
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| 04:42 | (from the ts.sch.gr ppa)
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| 04:43 | <din_os> ok, I'll have a look
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| 04:43 | <vicd> alkisg: Thanks
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| 04:44 | <alkisg> vicd: sorry I couldn't help more - this upstart mechanism is too new... :-/
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| 04:44 | But I guess more knowledgable people will see the bug report, and help you there.
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| 04:46 | <vicd> i hope so
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| 06:30 | <rjune> sbalneav, didn't you have problems with sabayon in 9.10 too?
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| 07:46 | <IHS_Volunteer> Yay, I got NBD_SWAP working :D
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| 07:52 | <cyberorg> IHS_Volunteer, you make openSUSE sound so boring, everything just works :(
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| 07:55 | <IHS_Volunteer> I use Ubuntu :|
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| 07:56 | and stuff doesn't just work...I haven't gotten Ubuntu 9.10 to work at all, and 9.04 needed a few chroot updates....and needed a few config files edited, etc....
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| 07:57 | <cyberorg> i envy your joy on getting things working :)
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| 07:57 | <IHS_Volunteer> NBD swap didn't just work either, but needed a lot less effort than local apps :D
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| 07:58 | <cyberorg> we have firefox and icewm installed in the image so that works out of the box too, we should make it more challenging too
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| 08:00 | <IHS_Volunteer> Jaunty had a bug I discovered, that would make it so that even enabling the router functionality in the DHCP server, and specifying in lts.conf that it should use it and the DNS servers, it still wouldn't use them.
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| 08:04 | If it was not for this channel, I wouldn't have figured out how to fix that.
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| 08:04 | Well, fix it correctly. using a proxy server seemed like a reasonable work around.
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| 08:10 | <IHS_Volunteer> To put it simply, enough "just works" for me to not feel intimidated about getting it going and into the more complex bits.
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| 08:59 | <sbalneav> rjune: the sabayon in Karmic should work out of the box
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| 08:59 | but I have one in my ppa that adds group-apply.
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| 08:59 | <rjune> Ahh, thanks.
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| 08:59 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:59 | <elias_a_> Good evening!
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| 09:01 | <IHS_Volunteer> Morning
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> Afternoon :)
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| 09:01 | <IHS_Volunteer> 2 minutes until 10:00 AM here
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| 09:01 | <elias_a_> 5PM
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| 09:01 | <IHS_Volunteer> so, if I were a speaker of japanese, Ohayou (sp?) would still apply.
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| 09:41 | <Gadi> alkisg: ping
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| 09:42 | <alkisg> Hey Gadi
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> hey
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| 09:42 | still have that NFS test env you set up this morning?
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| 09:42 | <alkisg> Yeah
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| 09:42 | Any clues?
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> mind trying something for me?
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| 09:42 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 09:43 | <Gadi> ok, so if you look in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup
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| 09:43 | you will see a configure_fstab function
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| 09:43 | let me know when you see it
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| 09:43 | <alkisg> I do see it. But,
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| 09:44 | <IHS_Volunteer> why would a 366mhz Pentium2 handle decoding flash video better than a 600mhz Pentium 3, both with 128MB of RAM... Using localapps firefox.
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| 09:44 | <alkisg> I tried putting an `echo "HELLO"` on top of this file, and I didn't see it when the client boots...
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> try adding those 2 fstab lines staticly to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/fstab
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| 09:44 | <alkisg> OK
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> in other words, make the chroot's fstab look like:
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| 09:44 | <alkisg> Got it
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> /dev/root / rootfs defaults 0 0
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| 09:44 | you know what I mean
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| 09:44 | hehe
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| 09:45 | then boot the client
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| 09:49 | <alkisg> Gadi: no noticable change...
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| 09:49 | Still mountall complains about already mounted file systems, and if I press [Esc] to cancel it, it just hangs there
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| 09:49 | In which initscript is "mountall"?
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| 09:50 | <BettinaL> hello :)
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| 09:50 | i'm the one who sent the messages to ltsp-discuss, about trying to boot a karmic client with nfs root
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| 09:51 | so here i am, for some live help...
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| 09:51 | i see you're f´+ge
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| 09:51 | *getting the same error messages
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| 09:51 | <alkisg> Hi BettinaL
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| 09:51 | <BettinaL> hi alkis :)
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| 09:51 | <alkisg> Yeah, some guy this morning complained about the same messages as you, and I thought I'd give it a try
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| 09:52 | ...but no cigar :(
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| 09:52 | <Gadi> sorry - was on ph
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| 09:52 | <BettinaL> ok, good to know its not just my own stupidity that it doesnt work ;)
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> Gadi: how could I run "bindmounts" before "mountall"?
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| 09:52 | <Gadi> mountall is called by upstart in 9.10
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| 09:53 | /etc/init/mountall.conf
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| 09:53 | <alkisg> Can't I call a shell somewhere there?
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| 09:53 | * alkisg tries... | |
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| 10:00 | <coordinador> hi
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| 10:00 | i cannot install plugins for firefox as localapp
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| 10:01 | and firefox runs in the right language except the "save file" dialog
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| 10:01 | (as localapp too, of course)
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| 10:06 | <alkisg> Well if I run ltsp-client-setup manually, it does mount everything. But still it hangs on mountall or right after that...
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| 10:06 | Weird, the recovery shell that it says should be available with 'Esc' isn't...
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| 10:13 | <Gadi> alkisg: try commenting out the configure_fstab in ltsp-client-setup, and make sure /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/fstab has no entries
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> Gadi: mountall is ran before ltsp-client-setup
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| 10:13 | So modifying ltsp-client-setup does no good...
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| 10:14 | (as it never runs)
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| 10:14 | <Gadi> I thought you ran it manually
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| 10:15 | and THEN mountall hangs
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| 10:15 | <alkisg> No no
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| 10:15 | I tried to run it manually to see if anything improves, but it didn't
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| 10:15 | "Normally", mountall runs, hangs, and ltsp-client-setup NEVER runs
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| 10:16 | <Gadi> its interesting, bec mountall's man page says it tries to mount stuff from fstab
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| 10:16 | so, it shouldnt mount anything
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| 10:17 | <alkisg> The line that hangs the client is this: exec mountall --daemon $force_fsck $fsck_fix $tmptime
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| 10:17 | If I put an echo right before that, it shows. After that, it doesn't...
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> try adding a "-v" flag to the mountall line
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> (while waiting for the client to reboot: shouldn't ltsp-client-setup be ran before mountall, so that it bind-mounts the files that should be writable?)
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> it needs /tmp to be mounted first
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| 10:21 | <alkisg> mount / terminated with status 1, and also /proc, /sys, /dev
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> which actually it does it seems in configure_fsstab
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| 10:21 | <alkisg> mount /sys/fs/fuse/connections, /sys/kernel/debug, /dev/pts etc exited normally
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| 10:22 | virtual finished
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| 10:22 | waiting for /....
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| 10:27 | <Gadi> what version of nfs-utils do you have in the chroot?
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| 10:27 | I mean nfs-common
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| 10:29 | <alkisg> Uh, none? :)
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| 10:30 | Gadi: I thought that it just kept the mount of the initramfs...
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| 10:31 | <Gadi> nm - chasing the wrong bug
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| 10:31 | bbiab - confcall
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| 10:31 | <alkisg> bye
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| 10:36 | <shawnp0wers> Gadi: When you get back, I seem to recall you pointing someone in the right direction to fix the thin client reboot errors with squashfs -- is that documented somewhere?
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| 10:37 | <muh2000> hi
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| 10:37 | how to install a fat client?
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| 10:37 | <alkisg> shawnp0wers: poweroff -fp and reboot -fp in ldm.c
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| 10:38 | <shawnp0wers> alkisg: Oh, so it was a recompile ldm fix. :D
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| 10:38 | <alkisg> shawnp0wers: I think you can copy the packages from stgraber's ppa, from lucid
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| 10:38 | * shawnp0wers wonders how lazy he is on a Friday... | |
| 10:38 | <alkisg> (no big changes from karmic yet...)
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| 10:38 | !stgraber-ppa
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| 10:38 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "stgraber-ppa" is https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa
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| 10:39 | <shawnp0wers> oh cool, thanks. :)
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> shawnp0wers: ah, nope
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| 10:39 | I copied them from the primary ubuntu archive, wait for the link...
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| 10:39 | <shawnp0wers> You mean you're not cool? I disagree...
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| 10:39 | ;)
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> :D
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| 10:40 | This should do it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcepub/872209/+listing-archive-extra
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| 10:41 | " * Force poweroff and reboot to avoid squashfs issues. "
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| 10:43 | <shawnp0wers> alkisg: Since it's Friday, and my brain is in weekend mode -- this new ldm package should be installed inside the chroot, correct?
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| 10:43 | <shawnp0wers> ldm doesn't load from the server does it?
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| 10:43 | <alkisg> shawnp0wers: right
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| 10:44 | <shawnp0wers> Ok thanks. :)
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| 10:44 | <alkisg> (NOT ldm-server - the "plain" ldm one...)
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| 10:44 | <shawnp0wers> alkisg: Right, got it.
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| 10:44 | thanks
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| 10:45 | but now I'm curious -- what is the ldm-server one?
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| 10:45 | is this what *does* run on the server?
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| 10:45 | or without an architecture, is that just config stuff?
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> It runs on the server, and provides some info for clients
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| 10:46 | `man ldminfod` == ldm-server
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| 10:50 | <coordinador> firefox(local app) runs in the right language except the "save image" dialog
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| 10:50 | and i cannot install plugins
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| 10:51 | <cpnogueira> Is the wiki out now?
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| 10:51 | <shawnp0wers> cpnogueira: I think so
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| 10:51 | <coordinador> my language is spanish, the save image dialog appears in english, i installed all corresponding language packs
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| 10:52 | (in /opt/ltsp/i386 system)
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| 10:52 | well the save link dialog appears in the wrong language too (english)
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| 10:53 | <shawnp0wers> alkisg, stgraber, Gadi -- the ldm package works a treat. Thin clients happily reboot, thanks. :)
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> Nice, /me copies it over to his ppa :D
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| 10:54 | <cpnogueira> coordinador: and if you don't run it in local app, this dialogs appear in wrong language too?
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| 10:54 | <coordinador> cpnogueira, no, everything works ok
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> coordinador: did you install language-pack-gnome-es ?
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| 10:55 | <coordinador> alkisg, yes, i installed all corresponding language packs and i recreate the image
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| 10:56 | (and reboot terminals, of course)
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> So the login screen appears in Spanish?
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| 10:56 | (I think it also needs language-pack-es)
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| 10:56 | <coordinador> everything appears in spanish, even the firefox localapps, the only things that doesnt appear in spanish is the save image/link dialogs in firefox (the rest of firefox appear in spanish too)
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> Yeah I think that's a gnome dialog
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| 10:57 | <coordinador> ill try to upgrade the packages
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| 10:58 | and the other problem, is that there is no way to "open with..." a file
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| 10:58 | or is there a way to do it?
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| 10:59 | <coordinador> is there a way to "link" the local apps with the server apps?
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| 10:59 | so firefox can use the server apps to open the files
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| 11:00 | <cpnogueira> Anyone knows if RDP protocol of LTSP5 is compatible with Windows server 2008?
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| 11:00 | <johnny> should be..
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> Yes, but of course it doesn't support the latest version of the protocol..
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| 11:07 | <coordinador> nop, i reinstalled the language pack gnome es and i updated everything, i did ltsp-update-image , reboot terminals and it wont fix
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| 11:07 | <coordinador> *dont
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| 11:18 | <shawnp0wers> Anyone using the disklessworkstation T1520 thin clients notice an audible hiss from speakers?
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| 11:18 | audio still works great, but there's static...
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| 11:18 | (I only have one, so I can't try a different one to see if it's faulty hardware)
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| 11:28 | <coordinador> i have 30 DWS 1220, and it sounds ok, may be they have the same soundchip
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| 11:28 | <shawnp0wers> thanks -- I should have bought 2 for testing, not just one. :)
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| 11:29 | <coordinador> well.. yeah
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| 11:29 | :)
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| 11:49 | <coordinador> help, i havent internet when i do chroot and i cannot install new things
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| 11:49 | (well yes, i have internet, but not in the chrooted system)
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| 11:51 | i have internet but i cannot resolv
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| 11:51 | (and in /etc/resolv.conf i have valid servers)
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| 11:51 | (valid servers in resolv.conf in chrooted system and in server system)
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| 11:58 | <shawnp0wers> coordinador: Are you using NAT on the server for your thin clients to get out?
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| 11:58 | ie, for them to reach the dns servers
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| 12:02 | Is there a simple way to have LTSP kick users off a remote thin client when they log into another thin client?
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| 12:02 | I know back in LTSP4.2, users would get a pop-up option to ask if they want to log the other session out
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| 12:02 | <coordinador> yes
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| 12:03 | i have to go, i think i fixed
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| 12:03 | thank you for your guides bye
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| 12:22 | <cpnogueira> sbalneav: Hi!
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| 12:30 | <dro> shawnp0wers: on the audio issue, are you using ldm or a custom screen script?
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| 12:30 | <shawnp0wers> dro: ldm
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| 12:31 | It's a standard install of LTSP on Ubuntu 9.10
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| 12:31 | <dro> shawnp0wers: have you tried changing the output in sound options?
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| 12:31 | <shawnp0wers> hmm... Not sure where you mean. :)
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| 12:31 | <dro> on the station with the problem
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| 12:31 | <shawnp0wers> no -- I can try that
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| 12:31 | it will be a bummer if the problem must be fixed locally for every user though
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| 12:31 | <dro> go to system-->sound-->output tab--> and change the connector drop down at the bottom
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| 12:31 | <shawnp0wers> I'll try real quick
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| 12:32 | <dro> shawnp0wers: ok i'm going to grab a bite to eat but i'll be back in a few
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| 12:33 | <shawnp0wers> dro: Only options are analog output, and headphone output -- changing makes no difference...
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> shawnp0wers: PCM_VOLUME may be up to high - set PCM_VOLUME=70 in lts.conf
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| 12:49 | <Lns> !g
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| 12:49 | <ltspbot`> Lns: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 12:49 | * Gadi waves to Lns | |
| 12:49 | <Gadi> shawnp0wers: also, LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION=True will make it so a user gets kicked if already on
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| 12:50 | <dro> Gadi: is there a document somewhere that shows all the lts.conf options and a short description?
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| 12:51 | <shawnp0wers> Gadi: Thanks! The sound issue is still there (I think it might be hardware related, I have an email into disklessworkstations) -- but the LDM_LIMIT is just what I was looking for. :)
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> dro: zcat /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/lts-parameters.txt.gz
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| 12:52 | tho, I think we are phasing that out in favor of the online docs
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| 12:52 | <dro> Gadi: cool ty, I've been looking for that
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| 12:53 | <Gadi> shawnp0wers: if you run ltsp-localapps xterm and then play with alsamixer -c0 in the xterm, you can see if adjusting any of the levels helps
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| 12:53 | <shawnp0wers> Gadi: Ah, good call. Thanks.
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| 12:54 | <Gadi> shawnp0wers: if it does, just use: <channel-name-in-caps>_VOLUME=<level> in lts.conf
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| 12:56 | <shawnp0wers> hmm.. -c0 doesn't seem to make it happy
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| 12:56 | alsamixer alone just gives me the master setting for pulseaudio...
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> -c1?
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| 12:57 | <shawnp0wers> nope
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| 12:57 | I get "wrong -c arguement"
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> cat /proc/asound/cards
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| 12:58 | <shawnp0wers> zero is the number...
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| 12:58 | but -c0 fails
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| 12:58 | odd, no?
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| 12:58 | <Gadi> indeed
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| 12:58 | are you in the audio group?
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| 12:59 | <shawnp0wers> hmm, I do not know
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| 12:59 | probably not
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| 12:59 | <Gadi> id
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| 12:59 | <shawnp0wers> nope
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| 12:59 | and I'll probably need to add it in LDAP...
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| 12:59 | <Gadi> hmm... maybe you have to be
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| 12:59 | no, you can add it locally
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| 12:59 | <shawnp0wers> can I add to a local..
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| 12:59 | ok, that answers my question. :)
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| 12:59 | <Gadi> you can add an ldap user to a local group
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| 13:00 | it'll just only be in that group on that machine
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| 13:00 | but, you prolly need to logout/login
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| 13:05 | <shawnp0wers> hmm... I need to do this in the chroot apparently.
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| 13:06 | actually, how do local accounts work in the chroot?
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| 13:19 | <Gadi> shawnp0wers: dont touch the chroot
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| 13:20 | it will grab everything it needs from the server
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| 13:20 | <shawnp0wers> Gadi: You're not the boss of me. LOL!
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| 13:20 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 13:20 | <shawnp0wers> I didn't anyway, I figure I need to reboot perhaps
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| 13:20 | but is it build into the NBD image?
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| 13:20 | must I update it to refresh the chroot environment?
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| 13:20 | (ie, with group info)
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> nope - localapps grabs the info on the fly on login
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| 13:21 | <shawnp0wers> ok, good to know
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| 13:21 | well, for some reason my vigr didn't work
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> do you have an audio group in ldap?
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| 13:21 | <shawnp0wers> no
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> good
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| 13:21 | <shawnp0wers> I may have that group id used though...
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| 13:21 | (stupid OSX ldap...)
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| 13:21 | lemme check
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| 13:22 | nope, no group id29 on the ldap server
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| 13:23 | <Gadi> did you : adduser vigr audio?
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| 13:23 | <shawnp0wers> well, on the server id spowers shows audio
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| 13:23 | in the ltsp-localapps xterm it doesn't
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| 13:23 | and yes, I've logged out/in
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| 13:24 | <Gadi> getent group audio
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| 13:24 | <shawnp0wers> just pulse user
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| 13:24 | on the thin client
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| 13:24 | lemme reboot and try...
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| 13:26 | Gadi still no dice
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| 13:28 | <Gadi> does it have any of the groups you're in?
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| 13:29 | <shawnp0wers> Just the groups from the LDAP server
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| 13:29 | <Gadi> 1 sec - ph call
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| 13:29 | <shawnp0wers> in fact, on the server it shows I'm in the admin group (80), but in the thin client it does not
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| 13:29 | k
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| 13:43 | <shawnp0wers> alkisg: I spoke too soon. The thin clients can reboot from the menu, but if you rebuild the NBD image, they still fail when automatically rebooting. Just FYI.
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| 13:46 | <shawnp0wers> Gadi: Well, I figured the channel that causes the hiss...
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| 13:46 | (I just enabled the root account in chroot, and su -l 'd)
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| 13:46 | It is called "Mic Boos", which I suspect might be "Mic Boost"
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| 13:46 | Now how to reference that in lts.conf...
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| 13:47 | Gadi: Actually, Mic too -- the Mic Boost just make the Mic that much louder
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| 13:47 | as a playback device apparently...
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| 13:47 | odd
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| 13:57 | <shawnp0wers> Gadi: Success!
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| 13:57 | MIC_VOLUME=0
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| 13:57 | FRONT_MIC_VOLUME=0
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| 13:57 | Thank you AGAIN!
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| 14:32 | <BettinaL> just wanted to add re this boot with nfs root bug, it seems likely this has nothing to do with ltsp, but is a mountall problem, introduced in 9.10
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| 14:32 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bugs has a pretty impressive list
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> BettinaL: maybe you should switch to nbd for the time being... :)
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| 15:21 | <homer01> hi
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| 15:22 | <homer01> i've installed karmic ubuntu-server amd64 on my machine
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| 15:23 | <homer01> i've then build the ltsp image with the karmic ubuntu_desktop i386 cd
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| 15:23 | <homer01> should i need to install a graphical interface to my server?
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| 15:23 | because actually when i boot the client
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| 15:24 | <johnny> yes
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| 15:24 | as it runs programs from the server
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| 15:24 | <homer01> i get the login screen
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| 15:24 | and after i login i get a black screen
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| 15:25 | ok johnny
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| 15:25 | what do i need to install
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| 15:25 | <homer01> ?
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| 15:25 | please
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| 15:25 | <johnny> apt-get install ubuntu-deskop should pull it all in
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| 15:25 | <homer01> ok great
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| 15:25 | thanks for that...
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| 15:44 | <BettinaL> [21:54] <alkisg> BettinaL: maybe you should switch to nbd for the time being... :) <- agreed, I've come to the same conclusion ;)
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| 16:55 | <vagrantc> stgraber finally uploaded ltsp 5.1.93 to ubuntu ... giving me an excuse to do a new upload to debian :)
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| 18:26 | <mottz> all at once my clients stopped booting, it's like there' stuck in a loop after tftp is complete. My working config has not changed. Any Ideas where to begin on this?
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