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Channel log from 7 December 2006 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:23 | <kgoetz> can you do minimal ltsp installs with ubuntu-dapper, or can you only do 'graphical client' systems?
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| 00:23 | i want to network boot a gateway computer, and i'd rather it didnt X :)
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| 00:24 | that said, using a thin client for a gateway could get ugly, and dapper doesnt do fat clients
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| 00:24 | <vagrantc> kgoetz: if you don't mind the X stuff being installed, it's fairly easy to do.
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| 00:25 | <kgoetz> vagrantc: i asume i can remove it after install, so as long as thats fine i probably dont mind
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| 00:25 | <vagrantc> kgoetz: well, the ltsp-cleint package depends on ... ldm | sdm | x-display manager
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| 00:26 | <kgoetz> hm... :(
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| 00:26 | * vagrantc has campaigned from the very beginning to not require this | |
| 00:26 | * kgoetz grumbles a little | |
| 00:27 | <vagrantc> i plan to work on splitting up the packages a little more so what you want is easier to do, while making the default behavior the way it is.
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| 00:28 | <kgoetz> i'm still not sure it would work properly, but i'm going to give it a shot and see what happens. i have a seperate chroot for teh gateway
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| 00:28 | so i can mess around with it instead of all my clients together
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| 00:36 | <Mathesis> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: that's always the error when anything breaks.
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| 00:38 | <Mathesis> how I can solve that problem or I omit it ?
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> most likely, you can't skip it.
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| 00:40 | it might be that since it's debian's testing release, all the needed packages aren't available right now...
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| 00:41 | sometimes that happens ...
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| 00:41 | * vagrantc does an ltsp-build-client run | |
| 00:43 | <vagrantc> mañana, tal vez.
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| 00:43 | <Mathesis> :(
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| 00:45 | vagrantc: cewm can be translated the Spanish?
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| 00:45 | *vagrantc: icewm can be translated the Spanish?
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| 00:45 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: no se.
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| 00:46 | Mathesis: no tengo problemas con http://debian.oregonstate.edu/debian
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| 00:46 | Mathesis: rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386, y trata otra vez?
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| 00:47 | <Mathesis> thats ok
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| 00:49 | <vagrantc> quiero dormir ahora... :)
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| 00:50 | <Mathesis> E: Couldn't find these debs: locales
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| 00:50 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 00:50 | ese error ahora
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| 00:50 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: tendras tutorial que vaya diciendo lo que tu me has explicado
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| 00:51 | W: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was corrupt
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| 00:51 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: no tengo un tutorial
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| 00:52 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: otra mirrores ?
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| 00:52 | <Mathesis> me podrias listar que es lo que sigue que tengo que hacer
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| 00:52 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: cuando usar un otra mirror, rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 00:52 | <Mathesis> ya probe con tu mirror y nada
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| 00:52 | deja busco uno
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| 00:54 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: buena noche y buena suerte
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| 00:55 | es possible solo una problema temporales...
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| 00:55 | <Mathesis> oks vagrantc
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| 00:55 | esto que me has explicado es muy diferemte de lo que dice la pagina de ltsp
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| 00:56 | pero haber como lo arreglo creo que leyendo muchisisis,o
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| 00:56 | <vagrantc> ahora, dos tipos de LTSP ... 4.2 y MueKow/5.0
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| 00:57 | <Mathesis> cual me has explicado tu
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| 00:57 | <vagrantc> muekow/5.0
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| 00:58 | solo en debian/etch y ubuntu, ahora.
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| 00:58 | <Mathesis> hay web official
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| 00:59 | <vagrantc> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WebHome?topic=Ltsp5
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| 01:00 | <Mathesis> oks gracias me dejas mas tranquilo tito
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| 01:00 | <vagrantc> explica la diferencia: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/MueKow
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| 01:01 | adios! :)
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| 02:53 | <kwak> anybody using k12ltsp 6
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| 02:59 | anybody using k12ltsp 6
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| 03:56 | <Shurilla> hi everybody!
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| 03:56 | I need a piece of advise. On booting LTSP says "(kernel panic- not syncing: Attaemted)(No root-path. Check your DHCP configuration to make sure that the "option root-path" is specified )" though the string "(option root-path "10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/i386/" presented in DHCP configuration
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| 04:20 | <Shurilla> Люди
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| 04:41 | <ao_> good morning
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| 05:03 | <Shurilla> hi everybody!
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| 05:03 | I need a piece of advise. On booting LTSP says "(kernel panic- not syncing: Attaemted)(No root-path. Check your DHCP configuration to make sure that the "option root-path" is specified )" though the string "(option root-path"10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/ i386/" presented in DHCP configuration
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| 05:06 | hi everybody!
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| 05:06 | I need a piece of advise. On booting LTSP says "(kernel panic- not syncing: Attaemted)(No root-path. Check your DHCP configuration to make sure that the "option root-path" is specified )" though the string "(option root-path"10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/ i386/" presented in DHCP configuration
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| 05:13 | <Shurilla> hi everybody!
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| 05:13 | I need a piece of advise. On booting LTSP says "(kernel panic- not syncing: Attaemted)(No root-path. Check your DHCP configuration to make sure that the "option root-path" is specified )" though the string "(option root-path "10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/i386/" presented in DHCP configuration
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| 05:47 | <Shurilla> hi everybody!
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| 05:47 | I need a piece of advise. On booting LTSP says "(kernel panic- not syncing: Attaemted)(No root-path. Check your DHCP configuration to make sure that the "option root-path" is specified )" though the string "(option root-path "10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/i386/" presented in DHCP configuration
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| 05:48 | <cliebow> Shurillaa: lets talk in an hour or so..from school
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| 05:48 | <ao_> Shurilla: option root-path "10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/i386/" ;
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| 05:49 | dont forget the semicolon and restart the dhcpd
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| 05:58 | <Shurilla> Here is a current configuration for example:
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| 05:58 | option routers 10.1.1.1;
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| 05:58 | option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
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| 05:58 | option broadcast-address 10.1.1.255 ;
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| 05:58 | option domain-name-servers 10.1.1.1;
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| 05:58 | option domain-name "lochal.host";
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| 05:59 | option root-path "10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/i386/";
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| 06:00 | <cliebow> on 10.1.1.1 there is /opt/ltsp/i386 and showmount -e says it is exported
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| 06:02 | <cliebow> while we are it it netstat -anp|grep ":2049" shows nfs is running?
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| 06:03 | you dont have another machine giving out dhcp do you?
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| 06:04 | <Shurilla> showmount -e it says:
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| 06:04 | "export list for localhost.localdomain:
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| 06:04 | /opt/ltsp/i386 10.1.1.0/255.255.255.0
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| 06:04 | /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 10.1.1.0/255.255.255.0 "
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| 06:04 | <cliebow> another dhcp server?
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| 06:05 | <Shurilla> in another subnetwork win 2003
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| 06:06 | netstat -anp|grep it says:
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| 06:06 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 2168/dhcpd
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| 06:06 | <Shurilla> raw 0 0 0.0.0.0:1 0.0.0.0:* 7 2168/dhcpd
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| 06:06 | <cliebow> can you watch your logs to see if the client is actually passing an address out twice
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| 06:07 | once to get the kernel down..again to find out its root-path
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| 06:07 | ethereala/wireshark is handy there too..
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| 06:16 | <Shurilla> this part of log:
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| 06:16 | Dec 7 15:13:45 localhost dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:29:d7:15:37 via eth0
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| 06:16 | Dec 7 15:13:45 localhost dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.121 (192.168.0.100) from 00:0c:29:d7:15:37 via eth0: ignored (not authoritative).
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| 06:16 | Dec 7 15:13:46 localhost dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.1.1.253 to 00:0c:29:d7:15:37 via eth0
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| 06:17 | <cliebow> ACK?
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| 06:18 | <cliebow> Shurilla:best thing probably is post to pasteibin.net your dhcpd.conf..maybe a little later so the other guys can have a look too
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| 06:19 | our pastebot is borked
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| 06:19 | Whoa! wht is this 192 stuff? your network is 10.1
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| 06:30 | <Shurilla> it's working now!!! thank you for your assistance!
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| 08:47 | <pscheie> hey Gadi
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> mornin
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| 08:49 | <pscheie> what's the command to launch X on the client if SCREEN_01 = shell? Used to be something like sh_startx.
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> are you on LTSP 4.2?\
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| 08:50 | <pscheie> yes
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> or muekow?
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| 08:50 | ah
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| 08:50 | startx
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| 08:50 | or /etc/screen.d/startx
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| 08:52 | <pscheie> just plain startx? I must be confusing myself with the older versions where setting SCREEN_01 = shell required some command to start X
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| 08:52 | How is it done under muekow?
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| 08:53 | <Gadi> well, in *ubuntu*'s implementation of muekow....
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| 08:53 | they put the screen scripts in /usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d (or some such)
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| 09:09 | <chenapan> hello !
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| 09:10 | i'm trying to set up a ltsp netw but i've some problems ... i can't start my dhcp deamon ... i've en error : /etc/dhcpd.conf line 8:semicolon expected ... and the line is: option root_path "IP-ADDRESS:/opt/ltsp/i386"; - can u tell me what's wrong with that ? please :/
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| 09:11 | (yes, i'm a noob ...)
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| 09:14 | <Gadi> it should be: root-path
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| 09:14 | not: root_path
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| 09:15 | <chenapan> pfff ok :)
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| 09:16 | mmmh, same error :(
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| 09:18 | <Gadi> check that the preceding line ends in a semicolon
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| 09:21 | <chenapan> yeah, ok, this problem is fixed :) a ';' was missing
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| 09:22 | now, i've another problem ...
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| 09:23 | i must add a global ddns-update-style (ok, that's chineese for me)
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| 09:25 | <aa> I am getting TFTP error 1 (File not found) Unable to load file when i try to boot client using the PXE Bootable Floppy
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| 09:26 | Can anyone help me
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| 09:27 | <ao_> aa: are you sure your tftp server is up and running=
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| 09:27 | ?
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| 09:28 | <aa> yes my tftp server is up and running as i had seen the same in ltspadmin
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| 09:28 | Loading 192.168.1.1:/tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp TFTP error 1 (File not found)
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| 09:30 | <ao_> in dhcpd.conf:
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| 09:30 | filename "/lts/2.4.26-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0"; # PXE
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| 09:30 | this corresponds to
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| 09:30 | /tftpboot/lts/2.4.26-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0
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| 09:31 | on the tftp server
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| 09:32 | <aa> u mean i had to remove /tftboot from the filename?
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| 09:33 | <aa> actually the network is at my office where i have to try i don't have 2 machines over here and so can't tyry and give u results but can u give me some other options to find where i may have gone wrong
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| 09:35 | <ao_> paste your dhcpd.conf line (the one with ^filename....)
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| 09:38 | <aa> filename "/tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.26-ltsp-3"
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| 09:39 | <cliebow_> aa: what distro
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| 09:40 | <ao_> filename "/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.26-ltsp-3";
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| 09:40 | remove the /tftpboot.
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| 09:40 | <aa> knoppix
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| 09:41 | <ao_> /tftpboot is there the tftp server is chroot()ed, so
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| 09:41 | <cliebow_> aa: what is the -s argument in /etc/xinetd.d/tftp assuming you dont have /etc/inetd.conf
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| 09:41 | and what tftp server?
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| 09:43 | <aa> I will do that . I mean that is one option which i will do
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| 09:43 | is there any way by which i can test on the server itself to check what should be the exact path
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| 09:43 | i mean is there any client or something to check the same
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| 09:44 | <aa> cliebow_: Actually I am also new to all this and so i don't know much about it
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| 09:48 | <cliebow_> aa:what distro/
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| 09:51 | for the hell of it add next-server fillinyourserverhere;
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| 10:03 | <aa> cliebow_: it is Knoppix
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| 10:04 | <ao_> if you want to test your tftp server there is "ftp"
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| 10:04 | tftp
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| 10:05 | your dhcp line is wrong anyways
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| 10:05 | remove the leading /tftp from the line
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| 10:07 | <cliebow_> aa: seems like dpkg -l|grep dhcp will tell you what server that is
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| 10:08 | <ao_> tftp doin chroot() has btw nothing to do with the disto
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| 10:13 | <wizzy> Has anyone tried using ATAoE to use idle disks on thin clients ?
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| 10:13 | <cliebow_> aa:either inetd.conf or xinetd.d/tftp controls action of tftp..look for the -s flag
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| 10:20 | <a1> u mean tftp is same as ftp
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| 10:20 | so i can test with ftp
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| 10:21 | <cliebow_> no no
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| 10:21 | <a1> I mean i test tftp server with ftp client?
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| 10:22 | <prpplague> tftp and ftp are two totally different protocols
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| 10:22 | <a1> then how can i test my tftp server at the server itself
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| 10:22 | to check the current directory and the files available and such all things
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| 10:23 | <jcgeuze> Hi, im trying to setup autologin with gdm as described in the wiki, but i get authetication failed on all screens after the timeout. using fedora core 5
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| 10:23 | <prpplague> a1: uh use a tftp client
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| 10:24 | <a1> u mean there is a tftp command
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| 10:24 | <prpplague> a1: i mean there are tftp clients, one of the clients for linux is actually called tftp
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| 10:25 | <a1> what is the command to get all the list of files/directories present on the tftp server so that i can get the list of files available
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| 10:25 | <prpplague> a1: man tftp
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| 10:26 | <a1> Actaully I am going through http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Resources/Hardware/IBMp690/IBM/usr/share/man/info/en_US/a_doc_lib/cmds/aixcmds5/tftp.htm but there seems to be no commands
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| 10:26 | anyway Thanks for helping me
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| 10:27 | <prpplague> a1: doesn't that indicate that there is no way to get a directory listing?
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| 10:28 | <prpplague> a1: tftp require you know the path and name of the file you wish to retrieve
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| 10:29 | <prpplague> a1: the t in the front of tftp stands for "trivial" which means it is reduced to the absolute essentials for transfering a file from one place to another
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| 10:52 | <Empiric> hi
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| 10:52 | i have installed ubuntu-eggy + ltsp 5 which ships with ubuntu
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| 10:53 | i want to attatch usb printer with thinclient
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| 10:53 | any idea?
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| 11:00 | <Empiric> helo
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| 11:00 | any one there
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| 11:10 | <vagrantc> Empiric: i *think* ubuntu edgy still has lp_server, and wrote some code to support it ...
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| 11:11 | Empiric: try setting PRINTER_0_DEVICE in /opt/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 11:12 | <Empiric> ok
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| 11:12 | same thing as we did in ltsp4.2
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| 11:12 | i understand
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| 11:12 | <jammcq> heykids
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| 11:12 | <Empiric> i was just querious abt some new things
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| 11:12 | may be some diff way of setting prinetsrs in eggy
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| 11:13 | <vykarian> hello guys
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| 11:13 | does someone knows where I can find a ltsp kernel with IPX?
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| 11:13 | (or even a how-to of how to compile a LTSP kernel)
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| 11:14 | <vagrantc> Empiric: it's likely to change a bit in the next ubuntu release. ogra's already got some code re-written for it.
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| 11:27 | <a1> Thanks prpplague
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| 11:30 | <Empiric> ok
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| 11:30 | it means
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| 11:30 | i set PRINTER_0_DEVICE in /opt/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 11:30 | and have a fix ip through dhcp
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| 11:30 | ok
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| 11:30 | but one more thing
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| 11:31 | in ltsp4.2 we have eash hosts with an ip in hosts.conf
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| 11:31 | and that host we use with lts.conf to have set printer device
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| 11:31 | should i create an entry in hosts.conf to bind priner device
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| 11:31 | ?
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| 11:33 | <prpplague> a1: np
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| 11:33 | <efra> Hi everybidy
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| 11:37 | <Empiric> vagrant
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| 11:37 | ?
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| 11:37 | u there
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| 11:46 | <nicoAMG> Hi everybody!!
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| 11:46 | I have a question about NX server...
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| 11:47 | <vykarian> guys, where can I find documentation about kernel compiling for ltsp workstations?
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| 11:48 | <nicoAMG> I'm using the free NX server to access the ltsp server, but it supports only two connections
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| 11:49 | How to support more users?
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| 11:50 | <Gadi> nicoAMG: the NX server fromnomachine (the free one) is capped at 2 users
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| 11:51 | if you're using that one, you should buy more licenses
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| 11:51 | <nicoAMG> Ohh!
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| 11:51 | <Gadi> otherwise, use FreeNX
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| 11:51 | <nicoAMG> Where is freenx?
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| 11:52 | <Gadi> what distro are you using?
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| 11:52 | <nicoAMG> NX form nomachine, ""free forever" :P
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| 11:52 | I'm using Ubuntu 6.10...
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| 11:53 | <Gadi> I think the kanotix guys have freenx in a repo. do a search for edgy freenx
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| 11:53 | <vykarian> does anyone know where I can find a ltsp kernel repository or instructions to build a new one or hack one already launched?
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| 11:53 | <Gadi> its not in any of the ubuntu repos afaik
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| 11:53 | <jammcq> vykarian: what version of LTSP ?
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| 11:53 | <vykarian> 4.2
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| 11:54 | <jammcq> you need the ltsp_kernel_kit
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| 11:54 | <dberkholz> jammcq: you up in portland?
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| 11:54 | <jammcq> dberkholz: yep, I sure am
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| 11:54 | well, beaverton
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| 11:54 | <dberkholz> jammcq: hm, can you see if they'll mind if i stop up there, to represent gentoo desktop? it's probably a little too late to officially register
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| 11:54 | <vagrantc> jammcq: you should swing by freegeek!
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| 11:54 | <dberkholz> i don't need any time to talk
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| 11:55 | <vykarian> | |
| 11:55 | <nicoAMG> Gadi: i'm searching the web...
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| 11:55 | <jammcq> dberkholz: I think it would be fine if you stopped by, although they are doing the "distro" talks right now, so you better hurry
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| 11:55 | <vykarian> fingering it out at discussion list
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| 11:55 | <dberkholz> jammcq: hurrying from here is roughly an hour and a half..
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| 11:55 | maybe i'll just do tomorrow
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| 11:55 | i'd miss half of today
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| 11:55 | <jammcq> it is fairly open here, and I don't think it would be a problem to pop in anytime and get a few minutes to talk about what Gentoo is doing
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| 11:57 | <dberkholz> forgot all about that meeting being today and tomorrow, my boss is out of town so i could've come both days =D
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| 12:00 | <cliebow_> Gadi: there is a great place to get nx for edgy
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| 12:00 | i have a sources.list entry
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| 12:00 | <Empiric> vagrant u there
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| 12:02 | <vagrantc> Empiric: barely
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| 12:02 | <Empiric> ya
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| 12:02 | did u get my question
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| 12:02 | <vagrantc> Empiric: just ask your question, and if anyone's around who knows he answer, they'll respond
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| 12:02 | <Empiric> for printers in ltsp4.2 we have entries in hosts file
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| 12:03 | <Empiric> and each hosts has spicific ip in that file which we use ti bind printer in lts.conf file
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| 12:03 | but i dont have hosts entries in ubuntu eggy
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| 12:04 | how i bind printer settings for particular thinclient in lts.conf
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| 12:04 | <Gadi> Empiric: edgy still uses the same lts.conf/hosts/dhcpd.conf methods as LTSP4.2
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| 12:05 | <Empiric> but when i do apt-get install ltspserver
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| 12:05 | <Gadi> just do what you would do in 4.2
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| 12:05 | <Empiric> and ltsp-built-cleint
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| 12:05 | then i wont doa ny thing ltsp is done in ubuntu
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| 12:05 | no need to add entries in hosts file
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| 12:05 | <Gadi> that just gives you a default generic setup
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| 12:05 | <Empiric> for printers i have to create entries
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| 12:05 | in hosts file
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| 12:05 | ya
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| 12:05 | true
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| 12:06 | ok i got it will create hosts entries right
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| 12:06 | <Gadi> if you need a specified client, you have to edit the files
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| 12:06 | as before
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| 12:06 | <Empiric> ok
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| 12:06 | thanks i got it
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| 12:13 | <vykarian> jammcq, i found that page about building kernel for LTSP http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Build-LTSP-42#Grab_the_lbe_from_cvs
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| 12:13 | <jammcq> vykarian: there's an easier way
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| 12:13 | <vykarian> did u follow that? after LBE is just like building a regular linux kernel??
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| 12:14 | <vykarian> would be what?
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| 12:14 | <jammcq> when you build the LBE, you'll end up with the 'ltsp_kernel_kit'. But, i've released the kernel kit as a separate tarball that you can grab
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| 12:14 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42
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| 12:14 | go to that page, and search for 'kernel_kit'
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| 12:14 | there's a link for a tarball
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| 12:14 | <vykarian> http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/utils/ltsp_kernel_kit_4.2u3.tgz
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| 12:14 | =]
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| 12:14 | <jammcq> yeah
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| 12:15 | grab that
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| 12:15 | it's got the config files that I used for various LTSP kernels
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| 12:20 | <vykarian> jammcq great, would be just copy that to a .config to /usr/src/kernel-$VER/ and run the regular linux compiling?
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| 12:21 | <jammcq> vykarian: yeah, run 'make oldconfig' before modifying it
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| 12:21 | then, after building the kernel and modules, there's a 'build' script in the tarball that will put it all together for LTSP
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| 12:22 | <Gadi> jammcq: do you know of a good reference for the best autodetect OSS video drivers in Xorg?
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| 12:22 | <vykarian> | |
| 12:22 | <jammcq> OSS video ?
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| 12:22 | vykarian: yep, that's the one
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| 12:22 | vykarian: isn't there a README file in there too ?
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| 12:23 | <vykarian> root@ltsp:/downloads/kernels/ltsp_kernel_kit# find . | grep README
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| 12:23 | root@ltsp:/downloads/kernels/ltsp_kernel_kit#
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| 12:23 | <Gadi> Oss meaning open source
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| 12:23 | <vykarian> nope :(
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| 12:23 | <Gadi> not getting into the binary nvidia/ati driver crap
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| 12:23 | <jammcq> Gadi: oh, I was thinking OSS vs Alsa
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| 12:24 | <Gadi> just Xorg out of the box detects and does a good job
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| 12:24 | and no options needed or special framebuffers, etc
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| 12:25 | I find more and more, things are autodetected as "special framebuffer + vesa video driver"
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| 12:26 | and if you do: "special framebuffer + appropriate driver" you get worse performance
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| 12:27 | <jammcq> that's because vesa is the 'safe" choice when you don't really know what to do
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| 12:27 | <jammcq> auto-detection of the correct driver was a big topic at the Ubuntu meeting last month
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> right, but the good choice shouldnt perform worse
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| 12:27 | <jammcq> well, most importantly, the "good" choice should "work"
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> there seem to be more of a proliferation of framebufers, too
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| 12:27 | <jammcq> performance is a secondary thing
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| 12:28 | <Gadi> heh, you dont have my users
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| 12:28 | ;)
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| 12:28 | but, in general
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| 12:28 | if you were to buy a videocard for your machine
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| 12:28 | and you wanted it to work well out of the box
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| 12:28 | what would you buy?
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| 12:29 | <jammcq> a cheap ATI
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| 12:29 | Intel has great support, but you can't buy an Intel video card (yet)
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| 12:29 | intel is only on the mobo
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| 12:29 | <Gadi> and you wouldnt need the proprietary ati driver to make it work well?
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| 12:29 | <jammcq> the high performance ati and nvidia cards are not easy to setup
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| 12:30 | you can still get the ATI Rage cards, and they work reasonable well. I'm using one in my thin client at home, with 1920x1200 screen
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| 12:30 | my big problem now is that I want a 30" 2560x1600 screen, but they all require dual-DVI and I just know how to do that in a thin client
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| 12:31 | <Gadi> we were discussing yesterday a bit about autodetection and ubuntu's "just fix the driver to do the right thing" philosophy
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| 12:31 | which I totally agree with
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| 12:31 | just wondering which drivers are actually "fixed"?
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| 12:31 | <jammcq> dunno
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| 12:31 | <Gadi> because AFAIK most dont 'do the right thing' to get high quality video out-of-the-box
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| 12:32 | <jammcq> well, there's still short-comings in the free nv and ati drivers
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| 12:32 | and fixing that is really not easy, without help from the vendor, who doesn't want to give help
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| 12:36 | <Gadi> actually, Im thinking the VIA drivers are prolly some of the best OSS drivers
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| 12:37 | <jammcq> heh, even the via's are a problem, there's Unichrome, openchrome and whatever is in Xorg
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| 12:37 | <Gadi> right
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| 12:37 | explains the dirth of Linux games on the market
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| 12:38 | <dberkholz> xorg is basically unichrome pre-fork plus a few small tweaks that both sides can agree on
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| 12:38 | <Gadi> s/dirth/derth/
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| 12:44 | <cliebow_> dearth?
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| 12:59 | <jammcq> darth?
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| 13:01 | <dberkholz> dearth sounds about right.
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| 13:02 | <cliebow_> my spelling is far better than my tyiping
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> Derth
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| 13:05 | Derth \Derth\, n.
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| 13:05 | Dearth; scarcity. [Obs.] --Spenser.
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| 13:05 | [1913 Webster]
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| 13:05 | -- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48
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| 13:09 | * jammcq still likes 'Darth' better. how about Darth Gadi | |
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| 13:35 | <cliebow_> Gadi: cant find anything mor definitive than that/
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| 13:38 | <Empiric> hai
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| 13:38 | wht abt sound in ububtu eddy
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| 13:39 | any one know how i enable sound in thinclients
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| 13:39 | <vagrantc> SOUND=Y in lts.conf
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| 13:39 | or, maybe SOUND=true
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| 13:40 | it drove ogra crazy to use Y/N for boolean, so there's a much easier to understand matrix of which use true/false and y/n :P
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| 13:51 | <cliebow_> thoughts anyone: i have a little python-tk prog to launch scripts..works from server but not via nx..with error something like black is an unrecognized color..rgb,txt error.how can i get around this/
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> actually, looks like setting SOUND=false will even enable sound :(
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| 14:00 | seting SOUND= to anything other than "" will enable sound.
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| 14:00 | * vagrantc HATES that kind of code | |
| 14:11 | <jammcq> cliebow_: you are probably missing the rgb.txt file in the client tree. Although I thought we included that
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| 14:26 | <vykarian> | |
| 14:26 | where does I change that?
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| 14:31 | <cliebow_> jammcq:it is not ltsp-sprcific..seems to be an nx on ubuntu thing
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| 14:38 | <jammcq> ah, so the x server that's running inside of nx doesn't have access to the rgb.txt file
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| 15:03 | <vykarian> mrs..
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| 15:03 | | |
| 15:03 | could that be some with drivers?
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| 15:59 | <vykarian> does someone know how to take of the Tux Splash on runlevel 3 ?
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| 16:32 | <Mathesis> se vagrantc
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| 16:32 | how are you vagrantc ?
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: ok, more or less.
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| 16:38 | <jammcq> maybe he's asking "how" ?
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| 16:38 | <cliebow> why are you vaagraantc
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| 16:38 | <jammcq> yeah, "why"
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| 16:38 | or.... "who" :)
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| 16:39 | <Mathesis> its how?
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| 16:39 | <jammcq> I mean "how" are you vagrant, vs "how are you" vagrant
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| 16:39 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: well, depends on what you're trying to say.
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| 16:40 | <Mathesis> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete ltsp-client
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| 16:40 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 16:40 | <jammcq> :)
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| 16:40 | oh jeez, now i've confused him :)
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| 16:40 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: if you're basically saying "hi", "how are you" is appropriate.
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| 16:40 | Mathesis: muy malo.
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| 16:41 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: instalare stable mejor
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| 16:41 | <vagrantc> is the pastebot dead?
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| 16:42 | <jammcq> yeah :(
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| 16:42 | mistik1 seems to be awol
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| 16:42 | we're moving LTSP to a new server, we'll put a pastebot on that soon
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| 16:42 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: apt-get install ltsp-client
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| 16:42 | jammcq: whats distro?
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| 16:43 | <jammcq> distro == Linux Distribution, like Ubuntu, Redhat, Suse...
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| 16:44 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: no!
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| 16:44 | <Mathesis> stable no?
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| 16:44 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: do not "apt-get install ltsp-client"
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| 16:44 | <Mathesis> install sarge?
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| 16:45 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: ltsp de muekow solamente para etch.
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| 16:45 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: como puedo reslver ese problema
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| 16:45 | vagrantc: en el wiki lo menciona para sarge?
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| 16:46 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: que wiki?
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| 16:46 | Mathesis: cual wiki?
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| 16:48 | <Mathesis> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/MueKow
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| 16:52 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: no es corecto. solo para etch, ahora.
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| 16:53 | Mathesis: en pasado, los dos funciona, pero no ahora.
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| 16:53 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: cuantas eth se necesitan para ltsp?
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| 16:53 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: "eth" ?
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| 16:54 | <Mathesis> card network?
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| 16:54 | card network
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> tarjetas de red? :)
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| 16:54 | <Mathesis> si
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| 16:55 | cuantas necsita tener el server?
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| 16:55 | 1 or 2?
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| 16:55 | <vagrantc> 2 es bueno.
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| 16:55 | <vykarian> fellows..
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| 16:56 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: pero, 1 esta bien.
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| 16:56 | <vykarian> some boxes are booting in runlevel 3 in 800x600.. i need all of them booting like the lilo parameter "vga = normal"
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| 16:56 | the weird is that some boxes boot in "vga = normal" and others boot in 800x600 with the Tux Splash
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| 16:57 | has anyone already seen that?
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| 16:57 | <Mathesis> oks
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| 17:04 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: si lo intento con ltsp4.1
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: 4.2 ?
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| 17:04 | <Mathesis> si
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| 17:04 | or sucede lo mismo
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| 17:05 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: buena suerte :)
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| 17:05 | yo no conozco ltsp 4.2
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| 17:05 | <Mathesis> solo conoces muekow?
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| 17:05 | <vagrantc> si.
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| 17:06 | <Mathesis> vagrantc: por que tendre este problema
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: no se. tiene un "proxy" ?
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| 17:06 | <Mathesis> no vagrantc
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| 17:07 | no tengo ningun proxy
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| 17:07 | <vagrantc> otra personas conoce ltsp 4.2
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| 17:08 | <Mathesis> leere sobre dhcp,tftp,
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| 17:08 | lo mas dificil es configurar esas apps
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| 17:09 | vagrantc: es necesario uninstall ltsp-server-standalone
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> Mathesis: si, se usted quiere ltsp 4.2
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| 17:10 | Mathesis: apt-get install ltspadmin
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| 17:10 | Mathesis: no se que siguente
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> and TWikiGuest/guest doesn't work :(
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| 20:14 | <Mathesis> vagrantc:
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| 20:14 | vagrantc: check de error
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| 23:40 | <vagrantc> so... when the dhcp server sees a DHCPDISCOVER, makes a DHCPOFFER, does a DHCPACK , but the client never gets it... usually it's a bad NIC or switch?
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| 23:40 | or cable?
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| 23:49 | <jammcq> howdie
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| 23:49 | <vagrantc> so... when the dhcp server sees a DHCPDISCOVER, makes a DHCPOFFER, does a DHCPACK , but the client never gets it... usually it's a bad NIC or switch or cable?
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| 23:50 | <jammcq> PXE or Etherboot ?
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| 23:50 | <vagrantc> i think etherboot
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| 23:50 | tried both...
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| 23:50 | <jammcq> if you aren't supplying a 'filename', then etherboot will ignore the response
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| 23:50 | * vagrantc is doing some remote troubleshooting | |
| 23:50 | <jammcq> I think PXE will too
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| 23:52 | <vagrantc> i've seen this behaviour with regular dhcp clients too...
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