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Channel log from 20 July 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:20 | <ogra> vagrantc, argh ! /srv/tftp
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| 02:21 | <vagrantc> ogra: ?
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| 02:21 | <ogra> see your bugmail
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| 02:21 | tftpd-hpa changed both of its defaults, startup trough inetd and it defaults to serve from /srv/tftp now
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| 02:27 | * vagrantc likes atftpd better anyways | |
| 02:27 | <vagrantc> ogra: i think our scripts already support multiple tftp dirs ... so it shouldn't be hard to add another
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| 02:27 | <ogra> i'm just scared about upgrades
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| 02:27 | changing both defaults at the same time is error prone
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| 02:27 | <vagrantc> upgrades should be handled properly by the package, otherwise it's an RC bug.
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| 02:28 | <ogra> beyond tha fact i'm not thrilled by /srv usage of package defaults
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| 02:28 | *that
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| 02:28 | <alkisg> dnsmasq ftw! :D
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| 02:28 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah!
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| 02:29 | <alkisg> vagrantc: so you're in our time zone now?
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| 02:29 | <vagrantc> really, dnsmasq rocks, handles tftp, dhcp, and you get DNS caching proxy as a bonus :)
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| 02:29 | <ogra> sadly no option :(
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| 02:29 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah
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| 02:29 | <alkisg> Spain?
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| 02:29 | <vagrantc> alkisg: si
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| 02:29 | <alkisg> Heh... it's nice to see you in the morning :)
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| 02:30 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you have all day to pester me with crazy ideas :)
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| 02:30 | <alkisg> ogra: there was a MIR whatyamacallit to put dnsmasq into main, and it wasn't turned down, but I don't know what happened in the end...
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| 02:31 | <ogra> alkisg, its very unlikely that it moves to main
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| 02:31 | we have that "no duplication if possible" rule
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| 02:31 | and dhcpd is used in enterprise setups
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| 02:31 | as well as bind
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| 02:32 | <alkisg> ogra, sure, but if some functionality isn't offered by dhcp, then isn't it ok for dnsmasq to go into main?
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| 02:32 | E.g. tftp, proxydhcp..
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| 02:33 | *i meant "offered by dhcp3-server"
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| 02:33 | Let me find the MIR...
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| 02:33 | <ogra> alkisg, i'll happily help switching ltsp if it goes to main
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| 02:33 | but i dont decide about MIrs
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| 02:34 | <alkisg> Sure, I understand, it's just that there *already* was such a MIR, and I though it was going well...
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| 02:34 | damn, where was it? ...
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| 02:35 | <ogra> if archive reorganization is in place it might be easy for it to go to main
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| 02:35 | since then main doesnt necessarily mean suported anymore
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| 02:36 | though it will still be not easy to get it on the CD i guess
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| 02:36 | <alkisg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionDnsMasq
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| 02:37 | ..and the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/190905
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| 02:37 | I was talking about this comment: "For the record, kvm was approved and promoted a while ago, so dnsmasq should be fixed soon."
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| 02:37 | <ogra> oh, its filed by zul (member of the server team)
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| 02:37 | then chances are actually good :)
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| 02:38 | * ogra reads pittis comment and lols | |
| 02:38 | <ogra> seems i was right about my assumption
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| 02:39 | dnsmasq is in main already according to that bug
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| 02:39 | <alkisg> Heh... (10:39:20 πμ) ubottu: dnsmasq (source: dnsmasq): A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.47-3 (jaunty), package size 12 kB, installed size 112 kB
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| 02:39 | <ogra> weird
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| 02:41 | <alkisg> And now with dnsmasq 2.49 (=proxydhcp) in Jaunty ltsp with external dhcp servers is *really* easy to set-up...
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| 02:42 | <ogra> <StevenK> ogra: The source is, the binary isn;t
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| 02:42 | <pitti> ogra: dnsmasq-base is in main, the full dnsmasq binary isn't
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| 02:42 | <alkisg> So if a choice was to be presented in the alternate cd (i.e. i386/amd64 chroot) then another choice would be also welcome (dhcp3-server / dnsmasq)
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| 02:42 | <ogra> no option
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| 02:42 | <alkisg> Ah, that's fine too :)
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| 02:42 | <ogra> its one or the other on the CD
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| 02:42 | <alkisg> No option? I thought there was some talk to allow amd64 CDs to download the i386 chroot from the internet...
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| 02:42 | <ogra> a) adding questions to the install process is forbidden
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| 02:43 | b) no dulication of funtionallity on the CD
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| 02:43 | <alkisg> OK then dnsmasq could replace tftp :P :D
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| 02:44 | Right! :) (10:43:39 πμ) ubottu: dnsmasq-base (source: dnsmasq): A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.47-3 (jaunty), package size 216 kB, installed size 656 kB
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| 02:45 | <vagrantc> the one problem with dnsmasq is it does DNS by default... which is kind of ironic
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| 02:45 | being that that was it's original purpose ... it doesn't make it easy to turn off if you want to run a real DNS server.
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| 02:45 | <alkisg> port=0
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| 02:45 | In /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp.conf
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| 02:46 | (or in the command line)
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| 02:49 | Also, by putting a tftp-root line there we can continue to use /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 02:50 | <ogra> does dropping files into /etc/dnsmasq.d/ suffice to configure it or do you need to touch any of its defaults to make ltsp.conf override ?
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| 02:51 | <alkisg> Dropping files is all that is needed
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| 02:51 | <ogra> thats neat indeed
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| 02:51 | <alkisg> Yeah, saves a lot of configuration headaches
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| 02:52 | <ogra> well ...
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| 02:52 | it adds some as well
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| 02:52 | <alkisg> E.g.?
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| 02:53 | <ogra> if you ship that file in the ltsp package it becomes a conffile automatically
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| 02:53 | <alkisg> So?
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| 02:53 | <ogra> so changing a single setting anfocres a debconf propmpt on upgrade if the user ever touched the file
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| 02:54 | it gives you more freedom in some areas but takes as much in others
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| 02:54 | <alkisg> If the user comments out #port=0, debconf will prompt him? I don't think so, it only does that if it can't patch the file... right?
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| 02:54 | <ogra> no
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| 02:54 | <alkisg> Other user configuration can go to his own file, e.g. dnsmasq.d/user.conf
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| 02:54 | <ogra> if the user comments out #port=0 *and* we for example change the dhcp config in the package
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| 02:55 | * alkisg thinks he tried that and didn't get a prompt :( | |
| 02:55 | <ogra> denconf prompt sare issued when a three way merge is required
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| 02:55 | *promts are
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| 02:55 | bah
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| 02:55 | <alkisg> Heh
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| 02:55 | <vagrantc_> not a debconf prompt ... dpkg conffile handling
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| 02:55 | * ogra goes to a typing class :P | |
| 02:55 | <vagrantc_> unless you use ucf ... which is a bit tricky to get right
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| 02:55 | <ogra> vagrantc_, err, right
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| 02:56 | in any case you get a prompt or go into ucf hell
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| 02:56 | <vagrantc_> but conffile handling is ... clunky at best ... easy to implement from a packaging point of view, but kind of challenging for the users
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| 02:56 | <ogra> its definately harder to make a single change
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| 02:56 | yeah, thats my point
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| 02:57 | not that we dont have that problem solved in todays setup though :)
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| 02:57 | but making a change to a sigle service is easier in the modular setup
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| 02:57 | alkisg, do you know if dnsmasq can merge configs ?
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| 02:58 | <alkisg> Not sure what you mean there
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| 02:58 | <ogra> using /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-tftp.conf + /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-dhcp.conf + /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-foople.conf ...
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| 02:58 | <vagrantc_> i.e. 00.conf is overridden by 01.conf
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> ogra: yes, vagrantc_ no :)
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| 02:59 | <ogra> would that be automerged to a single confg ?
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> ogra: it just reads everything in dnsmasq.d
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| 02:59 | <vagrantc_> ogra: you can do includes
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| 02:59 | ogra: from each of your dnsmasq.d snippets
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| 02:59 | <ogra> ah, then there is no need for a single file
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> So yes, youo can have a single line file with port=0
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| 02:59 | <vagrantc_> right
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| 02:59 | <ogra> that would prevent the prob
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| 02:59 | <vagrantc_> what's port=0 do?
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> turns off dns
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| 03:00 | <ogra> tells it to not serve dns
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| 03:00 | <vagrantc_> oh! great!
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| 03:00 | <ogra> as i understood above
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| 03:00 | <vagrantc_> i bet resolvconf will still configure /etc/resolv.conf to use 127.0.0.1 by default, though
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| 03:00 | so probably need to disable that, too ...
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| 03:01 | <ogra> ??
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| 03:01 | we're talking about the server
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| 03:01 | or do you see 127.0.0.1 on the client with dnsmasq ?
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| 03:02 | <vagrantc_> when dnsmasq and resolvconf are both installed, dnsmasq takes over /etc/resolv.conf with nameserver 127.0.0.1
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| 03:02 | so if you disable dns on dnsmasq, and there's no other dns server ... it will likely break
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| 03:02 | <ogra> who uses resolvconf nowadays ?
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| 03:02 | <vagrantc_> well, it's just a use case to be aware of ... it is used by some people
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| 03:02 | * ogra didnt see that anywhere since years and years | |
| 03:03 | * alkisg didn't understand the problem. Dnsmasq takes over /etc/resolv.conf when it doesn't serve dns? | |
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| 03:03 | <ogra> apart from an antique comment in the /e/n/i manpage :)
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| 03:04 | alkisg, no, resolvconf (as evil as it is) decides you must be a DNS server if dnsmasq is installed locally
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| 03:04 | <alkisg> Eeeek :)
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| 03:04 | <ogra> so points your /etc/resolv.conf entry to localhost
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| 03:05 | <alkisg> Hrm maybe then file a bug against resolvconf? :)
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| 03:05 | <ogra> though i would consider that a resolvconf bug
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| 03:05 | snap :)
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| 03:36 | <vagrantc_> dnsmasq's original purpose was to be a caching DNS proxy server, so it's a very reasonable default to have it automatically configure your machine to ... make use of one of dnsmasq's primary features.
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| 03:36 | dhcp was added fairly early on, and tftp recently...
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| 03:37 | <ogra> well, but blindly pointing to localhost is simply wrong
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| 03:37 | resolvconf should at least ping the port
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| 03:37 | <vagrantc_> well, it works with the defaults ...
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| 03:37 | if you're changing the defaults, you need to change it
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| 03:38 | ideally, the resolvconf hooks are smart enough to figure out that it's not running DNS, and not trigger the resolvconf updates.
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| 03:38 | i haven't verified if they are or not, but my *guess* would be that they're not that smart.
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| 03:39 | <ogra> ah
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| 04:22 | <vagrantc_> ogra: the qemu-arm-eabi stuff rocks!
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| 04:22 | ogra: i got a qemu-system-arm thin client booting... although X failed to configure
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| 04:24 | <ogra> yeah
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| 04:24 | X uses a log of PCI probing
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| 04:24 | *lot
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| 04:25 | might be the versatile board doesnt expose PCI
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| 04:25 | <vagrantc_> yeah, it had something to do with PCI...
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| 04:25 | there was only a single something on PCI ... so i'm guessing it just couldn't figure out where the video card was
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| 04:26 | <ogra> it should use xfbdev though
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| 04:28 | check if xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed in your chroot
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| 04:28 | (and note that fbdev doesnt have any xrandr support at all)
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| 04:30 | <vagrantc_> ogra: it's installed ... should i configure it through lts.conf?
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| 04:31 | <ogra> try that
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| 04:31 | it should work automatically though
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| 04:31 | <vagrantc_> XSERVER=fbdev ?
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| 04:31 | <ogra> yep
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| 04:31 | it works here on all real HW i have
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| 04:32 | wihout having to specify
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| 04:36 | <vagrantc_> qemu occasionally has x86-isms with the other emulators, i've found ...
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| 04:38 | <ogra> heh
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| 04:38 | well, you are insane using emulators like onions anyway :)
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| 04:40 | <vagrantc_> ogra: that did it!
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| 04:40 | <ogra> :)
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| 04:40 | <vagrantc_> though i didn't really network boot it
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| 04:41 | but hey, LTSP on debian's armel port
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| 04:41 | <ogra> yeah
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| 06:26 | <nubae> can one use more than 1 mirror with the --mirror switch?
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| 06:33 | anyone?
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| 06:34 | <ogra> no
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| 06:35 | ltsp-build-client has a --help switch for that ;)
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| 06:35 | * ogra wont telly you that there is an --extra-mirror option without pointing you to that :P | |
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| 06:39 | <gekkos> vagrantc_: Hi, Gadi told me that you are working to get local device support in a rdp session working. Can you help me with some more information about this. we are using lenny and localsupport for linux clients is working fine. many thanks
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| 06:53 | <vagrantc_> gekkos: hi. yeah, i can look into it a bit.
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| 06:53 | gekkos: actually, i'll be going to lunch soon
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| 06:55 | <_UsUrPeR_> morning all
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| 07:02 | <gekkos> vagrantc_: hi thanks i would like to test it, i have a test server where i can play around. can you tell me what I need to try it. the ltsp server is a lenny distro
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| 08:34 | <MicroMole> I appologize in advance if this is a stupid question...
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| 08:34 | I have upgraded a server that has a few thin clients from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11, but the clients are still PXE booting with the old Fedora 10 kernel.
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| 08:35 | This is not a big problem but I still want to know whether there is an easy way to upgrade the ltsp kernels as well.
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| 08:35 | The name of the script ltsp-update-kernels sounds like it could be useful but the –help message is not very detailed, no man page, and after much googling I'm still quite lost.
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| 08:35 | Should I just let it be and forget about this or is there some howto that explains upgrading ltsp kernels ?
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| 08:38 | <_UsUrPeR_> MicroMole: the updates you have made to your server will not be transferred to your client without updating the image
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| 08:40 | the ltsp image should be perceived as an independent operating system residing on your server, which must be updated separately.
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| 08:40 | On that note, here is what I would recommend:
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| 08:40 | instead of changing your current ltsp image, you should just build a new client image, while backing up the one that currently works
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| 08:40 | so here's what you do:
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| 08:41 | mv /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp.old
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| 08:41 | ltsp-build-image --arch i386
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| 08:41 | The first command will move your old ltsp software to a backup directory
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| 08:42 | <ogra> its -build-client :)
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| 08:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> the second command will build a new client image from scratch
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| 08:42 | <ogra> not -image
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| 08:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> *whoops*
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| 08:42 | I normally type "ltsp-b<tab>" ;)
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| 08:42 | <ogra> yeah, with b that works ... u gets tricky :)
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| 08:43 | <MicroMole> ok and that's it?
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| 08:43 | sounds too easy
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| 08:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> MicroMole: yeah, that's about it!
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| 08:44 | <MicroMole> then that's what I'll do
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| 08:44 | thanks
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| 08:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> now, if you are doing this in a working environment (i.e. people are presently using the clients), you may want to wait until later
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| 08:44 | <MicroMole> I will wait until tonight
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| 08:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> because building a new client image can take upwards of two hours. It's mostly dependent on how fast your internet connection is
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| 08:45 | <MicroMole> luckily most people are on vacation
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| 08:45 | <ogra> yeah, thats the disadvantage of using NFS :)
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| 08:46 | in ubuntu you could theoretically do it in production
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| 08:46 | (not that i would recommend it ... working on production systems in use is generally a bad idea)
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| 08:48 | <vagrantc_> gekkos: follow the instructions here: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto/Lenny-With-Backports
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| 08:48 | gekkos: that will get you a version that can do the local mounting ... but i think there's some bugs yet
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| 09:28 | <gekkos> vagrantc_: I installed the lenny backports version and did some basic tests. When I login I have to choose which server I would like to access (is it possible to remove this). And logout hangs, with the lenny version logout was working normal. I will give rdp a try now. txs
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| 09:29 | <vagrantc_> gekkos: the lenny version of ltsp?
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| 09:30 | <gekkos> yes
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| 09:30 | <vagrantc_> gekkos: so, before switching to the lenny backports, logout didn't hang, and after switching to lenny backports it did hang?
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| 09:38 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey, does anyone know how to get wakeonlan to broadcast from eth1 instead of eth0?
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| 09:41 | <gekkos> yes that's true. And also before lenny backport I didn't had to choose a server
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| 09:43 | <vagrantc_> gekkos: could you paste your lts.conf to the pastebot:
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| 09:43 | !pastebot
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| 09:43 | <ltspbot> vagrantc_: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 09:45 | <ogra> vagrantc_, so it looks like qemu 0.11 will enter ubuntu before karmic releases ... meaning it has the eabi patches included ... i just need to roll a package with the maintainer scripts :)
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| 09:46 | i assume the ubuntu package will enter through debian (not sure though, since the work is tighly tied to kvm work done in ubuntu)
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| 09:51 | <gekkos> vagrantc_: nothing is configured yet in lts.conf. The message I get 'enter the name of the host you want to log in to'
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| 09:53 | * ogra wonders if sdm sneaked back in :) | |
| 09:57 | <vagrantc_> ogra: nice!
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| 09:57 | ogra: is it in 0.11 upstream?
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| 09:57 | <ogra> vagrantc_, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/+archive/virt-daily-upstream
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| 09:57 | someone said it is
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| 09:57 | i'm just ytrying out the daily build
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| 09:57 | <vagrantc_> you still need to do the static build of qemu-arm-eabi, no?
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| 09:58 | <ogra> hmm, yes, might be
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| 09:58 | <vagrantc_> gekkos: ok, read /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop, which explains how to use it
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| 10:22 | <ogra> vagrantc_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/401782
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| 10:24 | * vagrantc_ hopes to see it in debian soonish, too. | |
| 10:24 | <vagrantc_> ogra: actually, you could link to the relevent debian bugs ...
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| 10:25 | <ogra> file it in debian, link the debian one in LP
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| 10:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> does anyone know how to change what NIC wakeonlan broadcasts from?
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| 10:25 | <ogra> i know kirkland will discuss it with upstream too
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| 10:25 | <vagrantc_> ogra: yeah, i'll dig up the two long-standing bugs in debian...
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| 10:26 | <panthera> .oO(yay!)
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| 10:28 | <vagrantc_> ogra: how do i link bugs to debian?
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| 10:29 | <ogra> also affects distribution
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| 10:29 | <ogra> pick debian in the pulldown and add the ful url at the bottom
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| 10:29 | *full
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| 10:31 | <vagrantc_> ogra: hrm. apparently i can only tie it to one bug.
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| 10:32 | <ogra> you can do "affects distribution" multiple times i think
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| 10:32 | never tried that though
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc_> i get an error: This bug has already been reported on qemu (debian).
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| 10:33 | <ogra> ah, and there is no meta bug in debian ?
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: wakeonlan -i <broadcast_address> <mad_address> ? Where broadcast_address = the broadcast address for the correct server NIC?
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc_> ogra: there's one bug for the binfmt stuff, and one for the static qemu build
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| 10:34 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: oh nice. Ok. I'll give that a shot. Right now, my server is broadcasting magic packets on eth0, when all the thinclients are on my eth1 NIC
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| 10:35 | <ogra> vagrantc_, hmm isnt one mentioned in the other at least ?
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| 10:35 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: I've never tried it, but it sounds like it should work...
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc_> ogra: yeah, one blocks the other ... so they're all linked
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| 10:36 | <ogra> then its fine
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| 10:36 | ugh
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| 10:36 | thats a can of worms
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| 10:37 | they request the static builds for *all* arches
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| 10:37 | not sure kirkland wants to invest that much
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| 10:37 | but i guess once he builds an example deb for armel its easy to copy
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| 10:39 | <vagrantc_> ogra: yeah, i'm adding comments on the bug.
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| 10:50 | <gekkos> vagrantc_: txs i have to leave now. Will test it tomorrow
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| 10:55 | <RobertBerger2> Does anyone have experience with ethtools and a Intel® PRO/1000 PT Dual Port Server Adapter and/or a Atheros L1E Gigabit LAN controller which resides on the motherboard?
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| 10:55 | I am planning to buy some server and want to choose the right components.
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| 10:57 | Concerning the Intel card I found in the sources of ethtool (e1000.c) that the 82571 chipset seems to be supported.
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| 11:26 | <epsas> hmm - what is a good way to send a message to all users?
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| 11:27 | <johnny> hmm.. thin client manager thingy only lets you do it one by one iirc..
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| 11:27 | unless you can do select all and i didn't notice..
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| 11:28 | <ogra> johnny, it did send to all selected ones when i wrote it :P
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| 11:28 | not sure it still does though :)
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| 11:28 | <alkisg> epsas: italc does that
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| 11:30 | <maginot> good afternoon .. so ... something very odd is happening on my ltsp server, at least I have only seen this happening there... when I do a "ps -aux" to see the process that are running some users aren't being shown by name, but in the place of the user name is his uid, is this normal ?
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| 11:34 | <Gadi> maginot: that will happen for users with usernames longer than 8 characters
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| 11:40 | <maginot> Gadi, Hmm good to know =) thanks
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| 12:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> alkisg: got it! :D
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> was that it?
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| 12:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> exactly like you said :)
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| 12:14 | just remember the broadcast address
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> Nice, man pages do work! :P :D
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| 12:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> apparently 255.255.255.255 will only come out of eth0 :P
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> Maybe it uses the default route
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| 12:54 | <bieb> CAN-o-SPAM: Alex you here?
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| 12:55 | <CAN-o-SPAM> bieb: hi
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| 12:56 | <bieb> CAN-o-SPAM: Got my boxes today..
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| 12:56 | thanks
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| 13:07 | <ogra> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/20/167
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| 13:10 | finally its possible ! virtual ltsp on top of windows terminal server :P
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| 13:11 | <CAN-o-SPAM> can u believe MS is contributing to kernel
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| 13:12 | watch out google, some lightblubs might have went on at the monopoly shop
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| 13:12 | <ogra> they just did
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| 13:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ogra: are you at oscon? or just watching news feeds
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| 13:12 | <ogra> someone forwarded it to me
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| 13:12 | is it OSCON time ?
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| 13:12 | * ogra didnt follow it this year | |
| 13:13 | <ogra> i got a bunch of CFP and invitation mails
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| 13:14 | ah, its this week
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| 13:14 | somehow its not the same without portland around it :)
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| 13:18 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hehe
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| 13:18 | if you use twitter, try following #oscon ... some sources won't be reliable, but you should get news first
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| 13:19 | * Lns wonders if the gpl2 code released will stay in-sync with MS code, or if this is just another publicity stunt and soon it will break, making Linux look bad | |
| 13:20 | <johnny> doubtful..
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| 13:20 | their customers care about it
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| 13:20 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Lns: i'm suprised ur not down at oscon
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| 13:21 | <Lns> CAN-o-SPAM: it's in San Jose?!
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| 13:21 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Lns: when your from michigan, cali = cali, we don't deal with that NoCal, SoCal stuff .... haha
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| 13:22 | <Lns> CAN-o-SPAM: ?
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| 13:22 | I had no idea it was even here...
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| 13:22 | <CAN-o-SPAM> oh ok
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| 13:23 | <Lns> jeez it's like 2 hours from here. I should just go drive down =p
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| 13:26 | Holy crap that's kind of expensive to go.
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| 13:28 | I don't get why some things like this charge so much to hear tutorials, lectures, etc... 800 bucks for one day?? Come on...
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| 13:35 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ya, that does get frustrating
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| 13:35 | Lns: i saw some people on twitter looking for day passes ... might be worth a try
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| 13:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> !s
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| 13:44 | <ltspbot> _UsUrPeR_: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> I have some questions sbalneav
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| 13:45 | <_UsUrPeR_> about Sabayon
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| 13:45 | <epsas> okay - i wrote a script to send messages to all users
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| 13:45 | via notify-send... and it works
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| 13:45 | ... a side-effect is the method for sending xeyes to people's terminals =D
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| 14:06 | <epsas> okay - /win 2
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> stgraber: dnsmasq-base *is* in main... does this mean that ltsp-server-standalone could be modified to depend on "dhcp3-server | dnsmasq-base"?
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| 15:43 | <stgraber> alkisg: probably so, will look at it tonight, I have to upload a new ltsp anyway
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| 16:13 | <stgraber> sbalneav: poke
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| 16:14 | sbalneav: any progress on that fix for ldm ? I plan on uploading ltsp today
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| 16:34 | <MicroMole> _UsUrPeR_: I followed your instructions for and ran ltsp-build-client
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| 16:34 | 15 minutes later all was done
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| 16:34 | no problems
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| 16:34 | impressive
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| 21:42 | <jdu> Is this http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/GDM_auto-login_with_specific_users_to_specific_terminals the best way to accomplish autologin? Or is there a better method?
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| 22:40 | <jammcq> hey friends
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