IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 September 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:51 | <mathesis> Hi everyone
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| 00:52 | this command ln -s "/home/user/VirtualBox VMs/debian/debian-flat.vmdk" /srv/ltsp/debian.img is if my server is a virtual machine?
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| 03:19 | <mathesis> hi, i am followed https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/ and https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/raspbian/
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| 03:20 | but my client raspbian no get ip address
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| 03:20 | I need create sdcard for get ip address
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| 03:44 | <alkisg> mathesis: what is the error message?
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| 04:00 | <mathesis> alkisg:
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| 04:00 | raspberry pi 3 b not getting dhcp
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| 04:00 | <alkisg> mathesis: this is not a real message
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| 04:00 | Get a photo please
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| 04:04 | <mathesis> yes, wait
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| 04:04 | my server is in virtualbox with debian 10 andd desktop mate
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| 04:00 | alkisg:
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| 04:00 | raspberry pi 3 b not getting dhcp
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| 04:00 | <alkisg> mathesis: this is not a real message
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| 04:00 | Get a photo please
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| 04:04 | <mathesis> yes, wait
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| 04:04 | my server is in virtualbox with debian 10 andd desktop mate
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| 04:05 | https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
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| 04:05 | <alkisg> mathesis: I mean the error message of the raspberry pi boot screen
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| 04:05 | At the point where it has the problem
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| 04:06 | I.e. get a photo of the raspberry screen
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| 04:06 | <mathesis> https://postimg.cc/bSnb2rnL
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| 04:06 | <alkisg> mathesis: not the server screen; the client screen
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| 04:07 | Are you using a UART cable?
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| 04:07 | <mathesis> does not give video
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| 04:07 | https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
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| 04:07 | check this image
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| 04:07 | does not give video
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| 04:08 | <alkisg> Which raspberry pi is that, 3?
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| 04:09 | <mathesis> 3 B v1.2
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| 04:09 | https://postimg.cc/QBRdKbqG
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| 04:09 | <alkisg> This then should boot without an sd card
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| 04:05 | <mathesis> https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
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| 04:05 | <alkisg> mathesis: I mean the error message of the raspberry pi boot screen
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| 04:05 | At the point where it has the problem
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| 04:06 | I.e. get a photo of the raspberry screen
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| 04:06 | <mathesis> https://postimg.cc/bSnb2rnL
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| 04:06 | <alkisg> mathesis: not the server screen; the client screen
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| 04:07 | Are you using a UART cable?
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| 04:07 | <mathesis> does not give video
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| 04:07 | https://postimg.cc/Snf6rnvv
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| 04:07 | check this image
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| 04:07 | does not give video
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| 04:08 | <alkisg> Which raspberry pi is that, 3?
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| 04:09 | <mathesis> 3 B v1.2
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| 04:09 | https://postimg.cc/QBRdKbqG
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| 04:09 | <alkisg> This then should boot without an sd card
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| 04:10 | <mathesis> no problem if the server is in virtualbox
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| 04:10 | ?
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| 04:10 | <alkisg> No
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| 04:10 | As long as it's in bridged mode
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| 04:11 | <mathesis> yes i have network in bridge mode
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| 04:11 | the ip is 192.168.1.87
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| 04:12 | i need put macaddress in lts.conf?
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| 04:12 | how can i check all services from lts
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| 04:12 | how can i check all services from ltsp?
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| 04:14 | <alkisg> mathesis: I think I'll have time to help you with remote support in 2 hours, if you want, come back then
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| 04:10 | <mathesis> no problem if the server is in virtualbox
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| 04:10 | ?
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| 04:10 | <alkisg> No
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| 04:10 | As long as it's in bridged mode
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| 04:11 | <mathesis> yes i have network in bridge mode
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| 04:11 | the ip is 192.168.1.87
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| 04:12 | i need put macaddress in lts.conf?
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| 04:12 | how can i check all services from lts
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| 04:12 | how can i check all services from ltsp?
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| 04:14 | <alkisg> mathesis: I think I'll have time to help you with remote support in 2 hours, if you want, come back then
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| 04:15 | <mathesis> https://postimg.cc/XpR4n84T
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| 04:15 | ok alkisg
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| 04:15 | <mathesis> https://postimg.cc/XpR4n84T
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| 04:15 | ok alkisg
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| 05:16 | <alkisg> mathesis: do vnc:
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| 05:16 | !vnc-dide
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| 05:16 | <ltspbot> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 05:16 | <ltspbot`> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 05:16 | <alkisg> mathesis: do vnc:
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| 05:16 | !vnc-dide
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| 05:16 | <ltspbot`> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 05:16 | <ltspbot> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 05:40 | <mathesis> alkisg:
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| 05:40 | ok
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| 05:41 | alkisg: i have ssh + tmux
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| 05:41 | <alkisg> mathesis: is x11vnc a problem?
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| 05:41 | It's just one command, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 05:42 | <mathesis> ok
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| 05:43 | ready
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| 05:43 | <alkisg> I didn't receive a connection
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| 05:43 | Do not run it as root, run it from a normal graphical terminal
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| 05:44 | I.e. it needs xorg/DISPLAY access
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| 05:44 | <mathesis> ok
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| 05:40 | alkisg:
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| 05:40 | ok
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| 05:41 | alkisg: i have ssh + tmux
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| 05:41 | <alkisg> mathesis: is x11vnc a problem?
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| 05:41 | It's just one command, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 05:42 | <mathesis> ok
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| 05:43 | ready
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| 05:43 | <alkisg> I didn't receive a connection
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| 05:43 | Do not run it as root, run it from a normal graphical terminal
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| 05:44 | I.e. it needs xorg/DISPLAY access
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| 05:44 | <mathesis> ok
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| 05:45 | ready
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| 05:48 | <alkisg> mathesis: try to boot the client
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| 05:48 | <mathesis> ok
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| 05:49 | ready
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| 05:49 | <alkisg> Is it connected to the same subnet? I didn't see any dhcp requests
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| 05:49 | Try to netboot a nearby PC, with x86 architecture
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| 05:49 | <mathesis> only have one raspberry
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| 05:50 | <alkisg> What is your host operating system, outside of virtualbox?
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| 05:45 | <mathesis> ready
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| 05:48 | <alkisg> mathesis: try to boot the client
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| 05:48 | <mathesis> ok
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| 05:49 | ready
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| 05:49 | <alkisg> Is it connected to the same subnet? I didn't see any dhcp requests
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| 05:49 | Try to netboot a nearby PC, with x86 architecture
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| 05:49 | <mathesis> only have one raspberry
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| 05:50 | <alkisg> What is your host operating system, outside of virtualbox?
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| 05:50 | <mathesis> mac os catalina
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| 05:50 | mac os catalina
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| 05:50 | <alkisg> Can you create a virtual client in virtualbox, and use bridged networking there too, and try to netboot it?
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| 05:50 | Btw, your rpi3 does NOT have an sd card, correct?
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| 05:51 | <mathesis> no has a sdcard
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| 05:52 | <alkisg> Remove the sdcard and try to boot it
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| 05:55 | <mathesis> ok wait
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| 05:50 | <alkisg> Can you create a virtual client in virtualbox, and use bridged networking there too, and try to netboot it?
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| 05:50 | Btw, your rpi3 does NOT have an sd card, correct?
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| 05:51 | <mathesis> no has a sdcard
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| 05:52 | <alkisg> Remove the sdcard and try to boot it
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| 05:55 | <mathesis> ok wait
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| 05:58 | this is client virtualbox
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| 05:59 | <alkisg> OK this communicates properly, asks for DHCP etc
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| 05:59 | Try the rpi3 without an sdcard in it
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| 05:59 | <mathesis> raspberry no boot
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> Try to boot rpi3 with raspbian in an sdcard, so that we see that its networking is OK
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| 05:58 | <mathesis> this is client virtualbox
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| 05:59 | <alkisg> OK this communicates properly, asks for DHCP etc
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| 05:59 | Try the rpi3 without an sdcard in it
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| 05:59 | <mathesis> raspberry no boot
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> Try to boot rpi3 with raspbian in an sdcard, so that we see that its networking is OK
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| 06:00 | <mathesis> sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> At this point, the rpi3 doesn't ask for DHCP, it doesn't try to netboot
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| 06:00 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> Or it's in a different network..
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| 06:00 | <mathesis> i am going try with sdcard within raspbian
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> Do you have it hooked up into the router, or into a switch?
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| 06:01 | <mathesis> is same network
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| 06:01 | <alkisg> OK boot it with raspbian so that we see
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| 06:00 | <mathesis> sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> At this point, the rpi3 doesn't ask for DHCP, it doesn't try to netboot
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| 06:00 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> Or it's in a different network..
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| 06:00 | <mathesis> i am going try with sdcard within raspbian
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| 06:00 | <alkisg> Do you have it hooked up into the router, or into a switch?
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| 06:01 | <mathesis> is same network
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| 06:01 | <alkisg> OK boot it with raspbian so that we see
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| 06:07 | <mathesis> https://postimg.cc/mtMPsh72
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| 06:07 | boot ok with raspbian
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> mathesis: do vnc from raspbian
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| 06:08 | !x11vnc
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot> x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot`> x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> !vnc-dide
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot`> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 06:09 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:07 | https://postimg.cc/mtMPsh72
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| 06:07 | boot ok with raspbian
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> mathesis: do vnc from raspbian
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| 06:08 | !x11vnc
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot`> x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot> x11vnc: One way to share a graphical screen with a remote person is: [local pc] port forward 5500, run: vncviewer -listen [remote pc] sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -noshm -connect <technician-ip>
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> !vnc-dide
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot`> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 06:08 | <ltspbot> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 06:09 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:13 | alkisg: ready
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| 06:13 | <alkisg> ok
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| 06:13 | <mathesis> alkisg: ready
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| 06:13 | <alkisg> ok
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| 06:17 | mathesis: do you have them connected to your router?
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| 06:17 | i.e. directly?
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| 06:18 | <mathesis> raspberry yes
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| 06:18 | <alkisg> I think the problem is that your router blocks proxydhcp requests, and you need a switch
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| 06:18 | Do you have a switch?
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| 06:18 | <mathesis> mac os catalina is connected for wifi
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| 06:18 | <alkisg> OK then maybe that's why it's not working
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| 06:18 | Your router doesn't bridge the dhcp requests to wifi
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| 06:18 | <mathesis> my macbook air no has ethernet
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| 06:19 | <alkisg> Wow, silly apple :D
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| 06:19 | And are you planning to serve ltsp clients over wifi?
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| 06:19 | Even if you manage that, it will be too slow
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| 06:19 | <mathesis> same slow that raspian?
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| 06:17 | <alkisg> mathesis: do you have them connected to your router?
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| 06:17 | i.e. directly?
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| 06:18 | <mathesis> raspberry yes
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| 06:18 | <alkisg> I think the problem is that your router blocks proxydhcp requests, and you need a switch
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| 06:18 | Do you have a switch?
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| 06:18 | <mathesis> mac os catalina is connected for wifi
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| 06:18 | <alkisg> OK then maybe that's why it's not working
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| 06:18 | Your router doesn't bridge the dhcp requests to wifi
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| 06:18 | <mathesis> my macbook air no has ethernet
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| 06:19 | <alkisg> Wow, silly apple :D
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| 06:19 | And are you planning to serve ltsp clients over wifi?
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| 06:19 | Even if you manage that, it will be too slow
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| 06:19 | <mathesis> same slow that raspian?
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| 06:21 | <alkisg> Hmm no your wifi is fast, 100 mbps due to the rpi3 ethernet
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| 06:21 | Is your router configurable, can you configure the boot filename in your router?
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| 06:22 | mathesis: is this only about one client?
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| 06:22 | You will only have one raspberry?
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| 06:22 | <mathesis> yes only one
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| 06:23 | <alkisg> It's 22 MB/sed
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| 06:23 | <mathesis> is for homework of my daugther
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| 06:23 | <alkisg> Your wifi is 10 MB/sec
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| 06:23 | So it will be about the same speed (because ltsp disk is compressed)
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| 06:23 | It's not worth the trouble
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| 06:21 | Hmm no your wifi is fast, 100 mbps due to the rpi3 ethernet
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| 06:21 | Is your router configurable, can you configure the boot filename in your router?
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| 06:22 | mathesis: is this only about one client?
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| 06:22 | You will only have one raspberry?
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| 06:22 | <mathesis> yes only one
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| 06:23 | <alkisg> It's 22 MB/sed
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| 06:23 | <mathesis> is for homework of my daugther
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| 06:23 | <alkisg> Your wifi is 10 MB/sec
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| 06:23 | So it will be about the same speed (because ltsp disk is compressed)
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| 06:23 | It's not worth the trouble
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| 06:26 | <mathesis> alkisg: this my dhcp server router
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| 06:26 | can you see chromium?
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:26 | Your router isn't configurable
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| 06:26 | <mathesis> :(
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> And you can't do proxydhcp because of the wifi
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| 06:27 | You could put /boot in your sdcard, and the rest to be over nfs,
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| 06:27 | but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble as your wifi is slower than your sdcard
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| 06:27 | <mathesis> I get it
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| 06:29 | i need a good router and switch
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| 06:26 | alkisg: this my dhcp server router
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| 06:26 | can you see chromium?
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:26 | Your router isn't configurable
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| 06:26 | <mathesis> :(
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> And you can't do proxydhcp because of the wifi
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| 06:27 | You could put /boot in your sdcard, and the rest to be over nfs,
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| 06:27 | but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble as your wifi is slower than your sdcard
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| 06:27 | <mathesis> I get it
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| 06:29 | i need a good router and switch
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> Or just a usb to ethernet adapter for your mac air
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| 06:33 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> Or just a usb to ethernet adapter for your mac air
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| 06:33 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:35 | alkisg: this https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-725058321-adaptador-usb-ethernet-red-lan-ethernet-rj45-a-usb-20-_JM
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| 06:36 | <alkisg> USB2 and $99? Why?!
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| 06:36 | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001264746523.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.1.3fed54devAj1TI&s=p&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b&algo_expid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b-0
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| 06:36 | USB3, gigabit, and $11
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| 06:36 | I don't know macbooks, I hope it has USB3
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| 06:36 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:39 | alkisg: thing client in virtualbox is ok
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| 06:39 | https://postimg.cc/JDgf7rjR
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| 06:35 | alkisg: this https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-725058321-adaptador-usb-ethernet-red-lan-ethernet-rj45-a-usb-20-_JM
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| 06:36 | <alkisg> USB2 and $99? Why?!
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| 06:36 | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001264746523.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.1.3fed54devAj1TI&s=p&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b&algo_expid=e3da3bf2-bc86-4353-bc91-e2d1e871939b-0
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| 06:36 | USB3, gigabit, and $11
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| 06:36 | I don't know macbooks, I hope it has USB3
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| 06:36 | <mathesis> ok
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| 06:39 | alkisg: thing client in virtualbox is ok
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| 06:39 | https://postimg.cc/JDgf7rjR
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> Yes but you need an 64bit client (ubuntu 64bit), not 32bit
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| 06:41 | This is because the virtualbox client is using wifi
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| 06:41 | <mathesis> yes, is ready
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| 06:43 | is a test only
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| 06:43 | but i need a computer with 8gb RAM 240 SSD
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> Yes but you need an 64bit client (ubuntu 64bit), not 32bit
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| 06:41 | This is because the virtualbox client is using wifi
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| 06:41 | <mathesis> yes, is ready
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| 06:43 | is a test only
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| 06:43 | but i need a computer with 8gb RAM 240 SSD
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| 06:53 | alkisg: thank you
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| 06:53 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 06:53 | <mathesis> alkisg: thank you
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| 06:53 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 07:03 | <mathesis> see you later
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| 07:03 | i am going to rest
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| 07:04 | <alkisg> Good bye
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| 07:05 | <mathesis> good bye
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| 07:03 | <mathesis> see you later
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| 07:03 | i am going to rest
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| 07:04 | <alkisg> Good bye
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| 07:05 | <mathesis> good bye
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