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06:32 | <alex_> Hi i need help
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06:33 | I change te ip addres on ltsp servers, ond reconfigure dhcp, client boots but whell login they get error "Nautilus cannot create file ..
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06:34 | what i need do after changin ltsp server ip
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06:36 | <alkisg> alex_: if the client boots, then you changed the IP fine
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06:37 | Problems in nautilus shouldn't be related to the server IP
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06:43 | <alex_> I'm triyng ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image it may haelp
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06:44 | <alkisg> Nah
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06:47 | <alex_> but nobody can't login on clients
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06:48 | <alkisg> What happens if you go to the Preferences menu and select the xterm session?
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06:49 | Can they login then?
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09:25 | <alex__> i fix problem by recreating users
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16:00 | <alkisg> nolaan_: all ok in your setup now?
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16:09 | <nolaan_> hey alkisg yes but I havent installed anything yet because I wanted to rest a bit after this experience :D
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16:09 | however, what will happen if I install apache there?
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16:09 | I mean I wanna have a webserver on the server and accessible to the clients
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16:10 | But not run the apache server on the clients.
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16:30 | <alkisg> nolaan_: you would just put RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES=apache2 in lts.conf
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16:31 | But in general, the ltsp server shouldn't be the same as the "big server" machine
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16:31 | It's more like the "teacher pc", if applicable
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16:31 | A template pc for the clients, that also happens to server their disk and home dirs
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16:32 | While apache/php/mysql/pfsense/whatever, belong to the other, "big server" machine
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16:37 | <nolaan_> alkisg: RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES is used during ltsp-update-image, right?
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16:37 | <alkisg> No, on client boot
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16:38 | All lts.conf variables get to the client when it boots
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16:38 | So while the client does have apache installed, its service is deleted on boot, and it's not runnable
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16:38 | <nolaan_> there's no way to exclude this service during the image rebuilding process?
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16:39 | <alkisg> Sure, you can put a cleanup.d/50-remove-apache script that apt purges apache
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16:39 | This would happen on ltsp-update-image
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16:39 | But why? To save 20 mb disk space?
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17:11 | <nolaan_> just to not have apache there, It's like gcc i would prefer not to have it on the client too
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17:11 | all unnecessary services/tools
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17:21 | <alkisg> A user can download anything from the internet anyway; it's not about disk space but about permissions
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17:21 | As long as you don't give them permissions to make programs executable or to run services etc, it doesn't matter if the code/files are there
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17:21 | They can get them from anywhere; the point is that they shouldn't be able to run them
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17:21 | But anyways sure you can remove whatever you want in the cleanup phase
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17:22 | (or from /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes)
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17:25 | It's also possible to maintain the ltsp template image in a vm, and use the "big server" to serve it and host apache and whatever else you want
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