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Channel log from 10 February 2022 (all times are UTC)

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00:16	<Biglouadamich[m]> I'm trying to figure out how to send logs from the clients to our central logging server. All the info I can find points to lts.conf which doesn't exist now. Any help is appreciated.
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13:31	<alkisg> Its the same as in non ltsp systems now
13:33	E.g. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-centralize-logs-with-journald-on-debian-10
13:59	While for some quick debugging, there's also this: https://ltsp.org/advanced/netconsole/
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15:41	<alkisg> fiesh: I'm here, we can start whenever you're ready
15:42	<Biglouadamich[m]> alkisg: Before you start can you answer a question for me?
15:43	<alkisg> Biglouadamich: sure, I already answered one for you above :)
15:43	Shoot
15:43	<Biglouadamich[m]> alkisg: Oh man. Didn't see that.
15:44	<alkisg> Sorry was from phone and I didn't ping/use your name
15:45	<Biglouadamich[m]> alkisg: That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
15:46	<alkisg> 👍️
15:46	<Biglouadamich[m]> alkisg: I'll let you know how it goes when I head to the office this afternoon.
15:50	alkisg: Netconsole is a good idea also but the clients aren't crashing. I just want to get the logs to a central log server I setup which uses filebeat to push them to an ELK stack for our developers.
15:52	<alkisg> Biglouadamich: yeah for that one the best is to forwards journald entries
15:53	It's also possible to do it via syslog, but it's getting deprecated, it's even disabled on ltsp clients by default
15:55	<Biglouadamich[m]> alkisg: That's true. I think I was just very tired last night and had been looking at for too long. I've actually been in IT for 31 years now. 20 of them on some sort of UNIX system. Oooof. I'm getting old.
15:59	@map7:libera.chat: Using pFsense as the server for our LTSP setup is exactly what I am doing. I have it documented somewhere if you want it.
16:54	<alkisg> !HASH
16:54	<ltspbot> I do not know about 'HASH', but I do know about these similar topics: 'LDM_PASSWORD_HASH', 'ROOT_PASSWORD_HASH'
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19:10	<danboid> alkisg, I added the Greek Schools ppa abd upgraded marco to your ppa versin but it didn't fix my NVIDIA / MATE login problem. Do I need to export the EV you mention here:
19:10	https://github.com/mate-desktop/marco/issues/548
19:10	MARCO_NO_XPRESENT=1
19:11	<alkisg> Yes, you also need a /usr/local/bin/marco wrapper
19:11	That sets that env var
19:12	<danboid> OK, I'll have to try that. Is this compositing prob fixed in 22.04?
19:13	(for MATE/NV)
19:13	You're testing LTSP with 22.04 right?
19:14	<alkisg> Yes, the ltsp release for Ubuntu 22.04 is already published
19:14	I don't know if it's fixed, I didn't have time to test that part
19:15	I reminded the nouveau dev to push the commit, and he did a few months ago, not sure if it's included in 22.04 though
19:15	<danboid> MATE is more busted in 20.04 than I realised until I came to test it with LTSP
19:15	Which is a shame as it my fave Linux desktop
19:16	<alkisg> It's one of the most stable ones though. Unfortunately Linux GUIs aren't as stable as Windows
19:17	<danboid> Have you tried this latest Plasma? Sounds like Wayland KDE has much better support for multiple monitors now which was a biggie for me
19:17	<alkisg> Wayland doesn't support VNC, so I won't try it until it does :)
19:17	Or until it offers a sane method for remote support without port forwarding
19:18	We did start some initial support for KDE in our school apps here
19:19	But to shape it properly, we'll need months, and I don't have that kind of time currently (MATE also needed months to be in shape for schools)
19:26	<danboid> I've heard freerdp is supposed to work with wayland (as a RDP server) but I've not tested it
20:15	<alkisg> freerdp is remote desktop; schools need remote assistance (shared screen)
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