IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 December 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 17:42 | <feltham1983> hey
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| 23:05 | * alkisg waves | |
| 23:07 | <alkisg> vagrantc: so, if ldm (not the greeter) was reimplemented in e.g. 100 lines of shell code, along with the ssh, rdesktop and pam plugins... would you feel uncomfortable because of the `run greeter | read ldm_password` line?
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| 23:07 | :)
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| 23:10 | * vagrantc struggles | |
| 23:12 | <alkisg> It would be very easy then to do the user-owned ssh socket, the /etc/shadow md5sum password hash etc... :)
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| 23:12 | * alkisg doesn't think that it's the language that provides security, but the carefully written code | |
| 23:14 | <alkisg> I think we could even handle password expiry then
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| 23:22 | <vagrantc> while the code is more important in the language... shell is not much of a programming language
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| 23:23 | so this sounds like ldm3...
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| 23:24 | <alkisg> The greeter is designed to communicate with stdio, how hard can it be?
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| 23:25 | It's not like we're currently zeroing the RAM where the .c variables that hold the password are, after they're used...
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| 23:25 | It's the same as `unset ldm_password` before continuing with sourcing the rc.d scripts etc
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| 23:26 | If we weren't using shell inside ldm, I wouldn't even propose it... but it doesn't sound right to me to have a .c wrapper to invoke shell scripts, when the wrapper itself can be in shell..
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| 23:27 | We're just making our lives more difficult by mixing .c and shell in the same code flow...
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