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Channel log from 14 November 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:50 | <FrozenZia> Kalimera, Alkis!
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| 00:51 | <alkisg> hyvää huomenta, FrozenZia :)
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| 00:51 | <FrozenZia> when you feel up to helping me out with my problem, now I'm *really
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| 00:52 | <alkisg> If you're at work and able to try stuff, sure...
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| 00:52 | <FrozenZia> * at home, and can't really do anything, but I did go back and do that one command, so I know the result.
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| 00:52 | <alkisg> What did it say?
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| 00:52 | <FrozenZia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/318214/
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| 00:53 | <alkisg> Looks ok
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| 00:53 | If you wrote "exit" after that, it should have booted... unless some other problem was preventing it to boot
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| 00:54 | <FrozenZia> Right. Well, no. I didn't understand what I was supposed to do at that point - just reported back.
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| 00:54 | Figured there would be a next step and NEXT step and a *NEXT* step....
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| 00:55 | <alkisg> OK, let's do this on Monday then, when you'll be at work
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| 00:56 | <FrozenZia> Agreed. A friend and I are going to have a sauna nearby where I work, so I may pop in and try just exiting from Busybox, but if there's more trouble-shooting to do, I'll save it for Monday.
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| 00:57 | <alkisg> Do remember to give the nbd-client command before exiting
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| 00:57 | (unless you left it open, that is...)
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| 00:59 | <FrozenZia> ok - I think I left it open, but it was late....
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| 04:47 | <ftherese> is it possible to do fsck commands on a thin client?
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| 04:47 | since the stuff is mounted via fuse
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| 04:48 | and the thin client doesn't contain the fsck commands or a root user
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| 07:38 | <sbalneav> ftherese: No
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| 07:38 | The thin client DOES contain the root user
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| 07:38 | and the fsck command is there
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| 07:39 | but running fsck on an ltspfs mount won't work.
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| 11:09 | <msaul_> Was wondering if someone could help me with ltsp-localapps. I followed instructions from URL: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty , and didn't know last step "Change your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to have your client using the new chroot with localapps". Regardless, Installed ubuntu alternade (mode "normal") on workstation and installed game "frozen-bubble". When I boot workstation from LTSP network, open a shel
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| 11:09 | l and run command: ltsp-localapps frozen-bubble it just goes to the next shell prompt... Was wondering if I am missing any important steps. I definately want to use ltsp-localapps for the lab I'm setting up...
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| 11:50 | <homer01> hi
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| 11:51 | i've a problem
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| 11:51 | i've install my ltsp environment
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| 11:51 | my thin client boot
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| 11:51 | get the IP address from dhcp server
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| 11:51 | download the image
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| 11:52 | and ...... stay here
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| 11:53 | does somebody have an idea??
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| 11:55 | <alkisg> What do you mean "download the image"? The kernel? What's the last message you see? And, distro/version?
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| 11:56 | <homer01> i use ubuntu server 9.10 amd64 for the server
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| 11:57 | and i've build an image with ubuntu desktop 9.10 i386
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| 11:57 | yes download the kernel and i've no message
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| 11:57 | <alkisg> Can you upload your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to http://pastebot.ltsp.org ?
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| 11:58 | <homer01> yes just a minute
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| 12:02 | <homer01> i can't connect to the pastebot.ltsp.org page
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> Try paste.ubuntu.com instead
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| 12:04 | <homer01> http://paste.ubuntu.com/318796/
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| 12:07 | <alkisg> "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" ??
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| 12:07 | That should be relative to /var/lib/tftpboot/ ...
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| 12:07 | Did you change your tftp server to serve the whole / ?
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| 12:07 | That would be insecure...
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| 12:07 | <homer01> ??
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> What does this give you? grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 12:10 | <homer01> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp
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| 12:11 | <alkisg> Urm, yeah, those aren't the default values
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| 12:12 | Neither in dhcpd.conf, nor in inetd.conf
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| 12:12 | I wonder why it boots at all... it shouldn't even be finding pxelinux.0..
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| 12:12 | <homer01> yes i've try a lot of thing
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| 12:13 | because this morning the thin client give me an error 1
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| 12:13 | file not found
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| 12:13 | when it wants to download the kernel
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| 12:13 | so i've look at my old machine to copy the differents config files
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> Ouch. How old? What distro/version did it have?
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| 12:14 | <homer01> ubuntu 8.04
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> And you had that dhcpd.conf in 8.04?
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| 12:15 | <homer01> yes sir
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> It shouldn't be booting with that dhcpd.conf... :-/
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| 12:15 | <homer01> and it work very well
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| 12:15 | i've just change the ip address of the network
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| 12:16 | actually 192.168.100.* 192.168.1.* for the old one
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> Do you have access to the 8.04 file system?
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| 12:16 | <homer01> yes
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> I wonder what did it have in inetd.conf
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| 12:16 | <homer01> i'm on the machine with the 8.04
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 12:16 | Ah, so it had that line that you pasted?
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| 12:17 | <homer01> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp
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| 12:17 | last time i give you the message for the new machine
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| 12:17 | <alkisg> Well, with those settings, the clients would be trying to fetch this file: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:17 | <homer01> it won't work for sure
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> That's why I'm wondering how it ever booted!
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| 12:18 | <homer01> i understand
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> The tftp root is: /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 12:18 | (without the ltsp)
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| 12:18 | <homer01> but i've actually my daughter who is connected
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> The filename is: /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:18 | (without the /var/lib/tftpboot)
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| 12:19 | Why don't you restore the old configuration in 9.10, and we'll take it from there?
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| 12:19 | <homer01> well how can i do that?
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| 12:19 | 'm not sure i've made a copy of all the files
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| 12:20 | i've modified
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> Can you reinstall ltsp-server-standalone? Without removing the chroot, that is..
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| 12:20 | <homer01> i've the original dhcpd.conf
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> Purge the whole things along with all the dependencies (tftp, dhcp3-server etc) and then reinstall it?
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| 12:21 | something like this: sudo apt-get --auto-remove purge ltsp-server-standalone
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| 12:21 | sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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| 12:21 | <homer01> ok i'll do that
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| 12:24 | ok i've remove everything
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> So is /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf deleted?
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| 12:25 | <homer01> and i'm reinstalling everything...
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> ...and you don't have a tftp line in /etc/inetd.conf ?
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| 12:25 | <homer01> just need to wait a couple of minute
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| 12:37 | <homer01> i've a new clean dhcpd.conf and a commented line about tftp in inetd.conf
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> Commented? it shouldn't be commented
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| 12:38 | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 12:39 | <homer01> that's it with a # in front of the line
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| 12:39 | so i remove it?
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> Ugh, too much unknown configuration there :)
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| 12:40 | What do you get with this? cat /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 12:41 | <homer01> #Defaults for tftpd-hpa
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| 12:41 | RUN_DAEMON="no"
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| 12:41 | OPTIONS="-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 12:43 | <alkisg> OK... well, yes, remove the comment from inetd.conf
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| 12:43 | What do you have in /etc/network/interfaces ?
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| 12:44 | <homer01> i've done it
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| 12:44 | auto eth0
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| 12:44 | iface eth0 inet static
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| 12:45 | address 192.168.100.1
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| 12:45 | netmask 255.255.255.0
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| 12:45 | network 192.168.100.0
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| 12:45 | broadcast 192.168.100.255
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| 12:45 | <alkisg> eth0 is the LTSP-facing NIC?
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| 12:45 | <homer01> dns-search springfield.lan
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| 12:46 | yeap
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> OK, then change 192.168.0.xxx in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to 192.168.100.xxxx
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| 12:46 | <homer01> i've remove the loopback interface and the commented line
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> Then, run: sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
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| 12:46 | and finally: sudo invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
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| 12:47 | That should get you to a default ubuntu installation, so we can see the problem from there.
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| 12:48 | <homer01> ok i've done it
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| 12:49 | <alkisg> Boot a client, where does it hang now?
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| 12:50 | <homer01> same thing i download the kernel
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| 12:51 | i've done writing on the screen
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| 12:51 | and that's it
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> So it properly first loads pxelinux, and then vmlinuz ?
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| 12:53 | What do you have there? (use paste.ubuntu.com): ls -lha /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 13:00 | <homer01> http://paste.ubuntu.com/318831/
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| 13:02 | for pxelinux and vmlinuz i don't know how can i know which have been load properly
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| 13:02 | <msaul_> alkisg:_ Hi, I was chatting regarding frozen-bubble, and I want to use ltsp-localapps to solve problem, but have a question
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| 13:02 | Was wondering if someone could help me with ltsp-localapps. I followed instructions from URL: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty , and didn't know last step "Change your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to have your client using the new chroot with localapps". Regardless, Installed ubuntu alternade (mode "normal") on workstation and installed game "frozen-bubble". When I boot workstation from LTSP network, open a shel
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| 13:02 | l and run command: ltsp-localapps frozen-bubble it just goes to the next shell prompt... Was wondering if I am missing any important steps. I definately want to use ltsp-localapps for the lab I'm setting up..
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| 13:08 | <homer01> alkisg you're always here?
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| 13:08 | * alkisg has to help some person here locally, will be back in a while... | |
| 13:08 | <sbalneav> Afternoon all
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> homer01: what's the last message you see on screen?
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| 13:12 | Hi sbalneav
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| 13:12 | <homer01> the question about pxelinux What do you have there? (use paste.ubuntu.com): ls -lha /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 13:13 | <alkisg> homer01: no, on the client screen, when it tries to boot
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| 13:13 | <homer01> and i've answer with this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/318831/
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| 13:13 | <alkisg> No no I mean when you try to boot the client
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| 13:13 | <homer01> get the adresse from
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| 13:13 | the dhcp client
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| 13:14 | get pxelinux i think
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| 13:14 | a series of point which finished with 'Done'
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| 13:14 | dhcp server*
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> This is just after pxelinux: http://www.yourwarrantyisvoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pxelinux-boot.bmp
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| 13:15 | If you see all these "trying to load", then it correctly loads pxelinux. Does it?
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| 13:17 | <homer01> i don't see this
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| 13:18 | <homer01> i've Loading 192.168.100.1:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/nbi.img
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| 13:18 | <homer01> and when it's finished loading i've the ' Done' text
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| 13:19 | on the old system after that i get the ubuntu splash screen
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| 13:21 | no the text is Loading 192.168.100.1:/ltsp/i386/nbi.img
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| 13:21 | ...(ELF)
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| 13:21 | .............................Done
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> Ah, ok
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| 13:24 | The problem is with the karmic .nbi image, I've heard of others having that problem
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| 13:25 | How do you boot the client? With a floppy or cd?
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| 13:25 | Or is it an old thin client (etherboot)?
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| 13:26 | <homer01> i've create an image on rom-o-matic that i've put on the hard drive
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| 13:27 | <alkisg> Then create a new one, with gpxe
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| 13:27 | !gpxe
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| 13:27 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "gpxe" is the successor to etherboot. You can find it at: http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php
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| 13:27 | <alkisg> http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-0.9.9/contrib/rom-o-matic/
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| 13:28 | This uses pxelinux instead of nbi.img, and it's much better. And it works in Karmic.
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| 13:30 | !forget gpxe
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| 13:30 | <ltspbot> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> !learn gpxe as the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
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| 13:31 | <ltspbot> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> !gpxe
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| 13:31 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "gpxe" is the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
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| 13:34 | <homer01> ok i'll try that
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| 13:34 | <msaul_> Was wondering if someone could help me out with ltsp-localapps (I'm close to having LTSP lab installed)... It just doesn't work correctly...
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| 13:34 | the ltsp-localapps part that is...
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| 13:34 | <homer01> i'll download an image put it on the hard drive
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| 13:35 | and i'll be back in 1 hour
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| 13:37 | <msaul_> When I issue command like ltsp-localapps frozen-bubble from shell, does nothing (just goes not next prompt)...
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| 13:38 | I followed instructions via URL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040198 , but suspect I missed something?
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| 13:44 | <alkisg> msaul_: did you install frozen-bubble in the chroot?
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| 13:46 | <msaul_> Not sure.... I did issue the commands: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
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| 13:46 | then I did an image update
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| 13:46 | I installed Ebuntu 9.10 alternate CD (normal mode) to the thin client and installed the game frozen bubble.
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> msaul_: well, if you do: ltsp-localapps xterm, does an xterm pop up?
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| 13:47 | "I installed Ebuntu 9.10 alternate CD (normal mode) to the thin client" ==> wait, what?
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| 13:48 | You don't install stuff to the thin clients... you only install stuff on the server
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| 13:48 | <msaul_> OK, I did that then, no problem
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> ?
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| 13:49 | <msaul_> The thin client has a 80 GB hard drive, and thought I had to do that...
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> Urm, no, if you install an OS locally it isn't a thin client anymore
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| 13:49 | <msaul_> Right now, thin client is booted from LTSP to it is acting like one...
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> Of course you *can* do that; it's like having a dual-boot pc
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| 13:50 | <msaul_> I'm just interested in keeping it simple, so your suggestion is better.
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| 13:50 | I assume that do damage was done, since it is acting like a thin client right now anyways....
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| 13:50 | I did set LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True in lts.conf
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| 13:51 | I did run ltsp-update-image for that setting to take effect....
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| 13:51 | There is one thing that I saw on another blog, that I didn't do...
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| 13:51 | <alkisg> OK, what do you get with ltsp-localapps xterm ?
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| 13:52 | <msaul_> It worked...
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| 13:52 | It brought up xterm window....
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| 13:53 | <alkisg> OK, in *that* xterm, run frozen-bubble
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| 13:53 | (with no ltsp-localapps in front)
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| 13:53 | <msaul_> says command not found (by name only, I will try full pathname)...
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> /usr/games/frozen-bubble
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| 13:54 | <msaul_> Doesn't have PATH for frozen-bubble in xterm
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| 13:54 | bash: /usr/games/frozen-bubble: No such file or directory
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> dpkg -l frozen-bubble
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| 13:55 | <msaul_> In the xterm window?
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 13:55 | <msaul_> No packages found matching frozen-bubble.
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| 13:55 | * alkisg guesses you didn't install frozen-bubble in the chroot after all... or you didn't update the image. In any case it isn't there. :) | |
| 13:56 | <msaul_> do you suggest that I do the installing via the xterm window for all situations of ltsp-localapps?
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| 13:57 | <alkisg> No
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| 13:57 | We didn't install anything in the xterm, we just verified that you didn't install it at all
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| 13:57 | Any installations should happen in the chroot
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| 13:57 | Close the local xterm
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| 13:57 | And run those:
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| 13:58 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 13:58 | apt-get install frozen-bubble
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| 13:58 | What do you get with this?
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| 13:58 | <msaul_> frozen-bubble is already the newest version.
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| 13:59 | While being unpriviledged user: which frozen-bubble /usr/games/frozen-bubble
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> You don't need frozen-bubble on the server, only on the chroot
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| 14:00 | Type `exit` to exit the chroot
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| 14:00 | Run: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/games/frozen-bubble
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| 14:00 | is it there?
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| 14:01 | <msaul_> Just give me a second, want to try this again to be sure...
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| 14:02 | Yes, /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/games/frozen-bubble is there... (I exited chroot) before issuing command...
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| 14:03 | Do you want me to update ltsp image again just to be sure?
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 14:05 | <msaul_> When it is finished, do I need to restart client?
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| 14:05 | btw, would it matter that I'm doing these commands via chroot while I am logged onto a thin client?
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> "via chroot" ?
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| 14:07 | Yes, you need to restart the client
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| 14:07 | And no, it doesn't matter if you run sudo ltsp-update-image from a thin client...
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| 14:08 | <msaul_> OK, since I'm chatting via thin client, I will exit, reboot just thin client and reconnect...
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| 14:12 | <msaul_> OK. Rebooted, and ran /usr/games/frozen-bubble in xterm window and worked. Worked well as if being run by thin client itself....
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| 14:13 | I didn't get sound, but still checking...
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| 14:14 | Weird, two volume applets appear in the upper panel now...
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| 14:16 | I removed volume applet, I'm going to reboot thin client again...
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| 14:23 | <msaul_> alkisg:_ OK, frozen-bubble runs in xterm by name or full pathname. I don't get sound
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| 16:01 | <magni> hi, dunno if somebody tried ltsp on voyage 0.6 yet but i got a strange rpc failed: 2 on the client while trying to mount root via nfs
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| 16:02 | <vagrantc> voyage is a distro?
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| 16:03 | <magni> yeah slimmed down debian for alix boards
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| 16:03 | its lenny right now
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| 16:03 | because installed on cf-card and only serial console
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| 16:05 | i installed it via apt ltsp-server-standalone and followed the debian tutorial
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| 16:24 | <magni> 100005 2 tcp 39554 mountd << an working ltsp has here version 3 also
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