IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 8 March 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:39 | <kwak> hi, anybody using k12ltsp 6
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| 02:50 | <fabian__> hi, is there anyone here who has tried ltsp with a ncd thinstar?
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| 04:06 | <nf1> Hi, i installed LTSP5 in debian sid. The client boots, it loads the LDM but I can't login. I type the user & password but then I got a black screen and after a few seconds the LDM login screen appears again.
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| 04:23 | somebody got the same problem, or know what may be the problem?
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| 04:24 | I modified the lts.conf (added SCREEN_07 = startx) and the client now gets KDM and I can login in the system but with KDM
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| 04:40 | <sep> nf1, sounds like wrong user/password or missing or to few rights in homedir, or no ssh access to the server.
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| 04:40 | LDM uses ssh tunnel
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| 04:40 | to protect passwords typed into the X session.
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| 04:40 | and it can also be used to run things on the client. ltspfs is the best example
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| 04:42 | <nf1> It's not wrong passwords. I thought that it could be an SSH port issue, because openssh was running on different port, but I configured it to run on port 22 and the problem still persist
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| 04:46 | <sep> nf1, just try ssh to the server on that user/pass and see
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| 04:47 | <nf1> I can login with ssh with that user
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| 04:50 | <sep> then i dont know.
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| 04:50 | works for me with ldm
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| 04:51 | <nf1> 10x for the try
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| 05:28 | <DaveQB> what can ne use besides http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1/ to install ? Its 404 ?
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| 05:31 | <cliebow_> Dave08:dont want 4.2?
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| 05:31 | <Bhaskar> can i mount usb in client?
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| 05:32 | <DaveQB> cliebow_: using Sarge, so ltsp-utils are defaulting to 4.1
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| 05:32 | I tried http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.2/ and its 404 too anyway
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| 05:32 | <Bhaskar> ogra, i connect USB in client ,but can;t mount ?
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| 05:37 | Anybody is there, i connect Pen Drive in client but can not mount ? any idea to mount USB in client
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| 05:38 | <DaveQB> what mirror are you using for updates etc Bhaskar ?
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| 05:38 | <cliebow_> i see..i can come up with chroot and kernels at school later if it helps
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| 05:38 | <DaveQB> cliebow_: how do you mean ?
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| 05:38 | <cliebow_> Bhaskar: you need to use scotties ten step program..then report back
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| 05:39 | 1localdev
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| 05:39 | !localdev
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| 05:39 | <ltspbot> cliebow_: "localdev" is Information regarding using pluggable devices and cdroms with LTSP can be found at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev
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| 05:39 | <cliebow_> 1ltspadmin
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| 05:39 | Balls!
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| 05:39 | !ltspadmin
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| 05:39 | <ltspbot> cliebow_: Error: "ltspadmin" is not a valid command.
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| 05:39 | <cliebow_> oh well
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| 05:40 | <DaveQB> cliebow_: what mirror are you using now for install/update ? can you check you configs for me please ?
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| 05:43 | <cliebow_> i am at breakfast..ill be at school by and by..and the rest of the gang too..if i caome up with something ill paste it
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| 05:44 | <DaveQB> Thanks. Dont have access to your ltsp server away from school ?
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| 05:45 | <Bhaskar> cliebow_, can i play music in client
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| 05:47 | <cliebow_> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Fltsp-utils%2Fltsp-utils_0.25-1_all.deb&md5sum=3844cd13aacdb05536f2443fc0410620&arch=all&type=main
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| 05:47 | <Bhaskar> and i could not shutdown particular client why
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| 05:47 | <cliebow_> Bhaskar: reliable sound is just being worked out
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| 05:48 | Dave08:trying to get my better half out the door 8~)
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| 05:48 | whole page of mirrors for ltsp-utils-0.25
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| 05:49 | <DaveQB> cheers cliebow_
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| 05:49 | * DaveQB follows the links provided | |
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| 05:50 | <DaveQB> no I need the mirror one uses when installing ltsp
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| 05:50 | I have ltspadmin executable, but it cant download anything as its default address http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1/ is 404
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| 05:51 | cliebow_: sorry for not being clear
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| 05:54 | <cliebow_> Dave08:perhaps jammcq will intercede..
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| 05:54 | <DaveQB> I hope so, and my name is DaveQB not Dave08
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| 05:54 | <cliebow_> my eyes..my eyes
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| 05:54 | <DaveQB> lol
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| 05:55 | <cliebow_> anyway..i can get you a tarball of the chroot if you want..and kernels if you are good at rolling your own
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| 05:55 | <DaveQB> Ahhh got it
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| 05:56 | rather use this interface. I used the new package 0.25 available on the link you gave and it comes hard coded with a better url
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| 05:56 | <cliebow_> one of my schoools is down..where i keep those...
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| 05:56 | <DaveQB> I even found a tutorial using the dud/404 URL
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| 05:56 | how many schools do you "have" ?
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| 05:56 | <cliebow_> 12
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| 05:57 | <DaveQB> damn,whats your job ?
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| 05:57 | <cliebow_> tech guy...cant stand the meetings involved with tech coordinator
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| 05:58 | <DaveQB> Actually its in the official docs.
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| 05:58 | hahaha
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| 05:58 | yeah I know how you feel
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| 05:58 | use ltsp alot with your occupation ?
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| 05:58 | <cliebow_> ok..going for the final push..wife is waiting in the wings..champing at the bit
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| 05:58 | oh 100 termnals just in the high school
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| 05:59 | seldom more than 40 at a time
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| 05:59 | olsd junk ive been dumpster diving for
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| 05:59 | <DaveQB> cool
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| 05:59 | how much space does a full install take up ?
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| 06:01 | <cliebow_> chroot is what 300 meg?
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| 06:02 | in feisty it is like 200
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| 06:02 | <DaveQB> using Sarge here
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| 06:02 | why do you keep mentioning chroot ?
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| 06:04 | <cliebow_> the modern word for the nfs fiesystem that is mounted on the client
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| 06:04 | sort of likr the little dude inside the big dudes head in mena n black
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| 06:05 | <DaveQB> i know what a chroot is, just didnt know how it related to ltsp
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| 06:05 | cool you can use NFS for homes hey ?
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| 06:05 | but just the install of libs etc with no user data is no bigger then 500MB's hey ?
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| 06:05 | I have 1.8GB on my / partition
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| 06:05 | just trying to decide on what partition to install this on, on my server
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| 06:06 | <cliebow_> the guts of ltsp is in there..yes you can..but remember ltsp is really just a picture of the servers desktop
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| 06:06 | default is /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 06:06 | <DaveQB> yeah
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| 06:06 | so it releies on the servers libs ? the servers X server it uses ?
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| 06:06 | * DaveQB doesnt have X server on his server | |
| 06:06 | <cliebow_> so your home is there..unless you are using localapps
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| 06:07 | you will need x on your server..on A server
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| 06:07 | <DaveQB> oh, cant point homes else where in the configs ?
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| 06:07 | hmmmm
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| 06:07 | bugger
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| 06:07 | <cliebow_> unless you are going to use just a terminal shell
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| 06:08 | you can point to any server runing x
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| 06:09 | * cliebow_ cliebow waits tyo get bodyslammed for talking too m,uch | |
| 06:11 | <DaveQB> hmmmm, yeah a terminal might be enough
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| 06:11 | <cliebow_> since i am little fish in big smart pond here
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| 06:11 | <DaveQB> I ran this along time ago, with the unattended.org project
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| 06:11 | ol
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| 06:11 | lol
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| 06:11 | I could use my X server here on my desktop hey ?
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| 06:11 | might be the way to go
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| 06:12 | dont want extra uneeded files on my server
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| 06:12 | This is mainly to just get an unbootable laptop up and installed
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| 06:12 | <cliebow_> DaveQB, would an ubuntu livge cd help you?
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| 06:18 | <black_jack> halo linuxer
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| 06:19 | <jim_mc_quilan> halo everybody
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| 06:20 | halo
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| 06:21 | <jim> how do i instal ltsp on my pc?
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| 06:23 | <cliebow_> bbl
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| 06:27 | <DaveQB> cliebow_: how do you mean ? For my laptop ? CD-ROM drive is no longer bootable, no USB boot options, and HDD has messed up bootloader
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| 06:27 | cliebow_: tried a debootstrap on the HDD connected to my desktop via USB, sorta worked, can get grub up, but some errors. Figured I wanted ltsp up on my server "in case of emergency" so here I am :-)
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| 06:48 | <DaveQB> wouldnt ltsp_x_core give bring in the X files needed without effecting the server ?
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| 06:48 | I guess I am wrong there
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| 07:25 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> morning 4 * #ltsp
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| 07:27 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> well.. now installed here ubuntu alternative 6.10
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| 07:27 | want to install the 5 version
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| 07:28 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall <- is my guied right?
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| 07:28 | s/guied/way
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| 07:30 | :o released !! :) nice
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| 07:30 | http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/ltsp_ubuntu_6.10_i386-1.tar.bz2
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| 07:34 | <ramsys> what is differance in ltsp and 2x thin cleint server/service
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| 07:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ermm 1 question:
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| 07:41 | if i can download a .bz and make an apt-get what i do better?
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| 07:45 | <mrchicken> Hello
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| 07:46 | I finally got ltsp to boot... but now I cant login :(
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| 07:46 | it asks me for username and password
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| 07:46 | I enter it correctly
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| 07:46 | and then, it would seem as it logs in, but then it shows me the login screen again
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| 07:47 | can anybody help me out?plz?
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| 07:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> client or server can't login?
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| 07:48 | <mrchicken> client
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| 07:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> re-passwd client at server and try again in the client
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| 07:49 | <mrchicken> I did that already
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| 07:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> wow
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| 07:49 | and make a new users?
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| 07:49 | <mrchicken> I mean, I dont get a "wrong username/passwd"
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| 07:49 | I just get the login screen again
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| 07:49 | when I enter the wrong info I DO get a "wrong username/passwd"
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| 07:50 | dunno if its related with me having KDE
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| 07:50 | and ltsp swearing I'm using GDM
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| 07:54 | I have a screenshot in case you want to check it
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| 07:55 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> erm.. how can i install ltsp-5.tar.bz2 :?
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| 07:55 | * sh3mh4mf0r4sh thinks is better apt :| | |
| 07:56 | <mrchicken> tar -xvjf ? hehehehe
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| 07:56 | bad joke
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| 07:58 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> jeje
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| 07:59 | <mrchicken> sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... any ideas for this weird behaviour?
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| 07:59 | <ramsys> bunzip
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| 07:59 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi
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| 07:59 | <mrchicken> hello
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| 08:00 | I finally got ltsp to boot... but now I cant login :( it asks me for username and password I enter it correctly and then, it would seem as it logs in, but then it shows me the login screen again
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| 08:00 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> is there some open source alternative to terminal server to access a win desktop/software?
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| 08:01 | <mrchicken> vnc?
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| 08:01 | <sep> kaminski-ltsp-br, rdesktop
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| 08:01 | kaminski-ltsp-br, and it's many frontends
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| 08:01 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> rdesktop uses the terminal server licences
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| 08:01 | <sep> krdc/grdesktop
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| 08:01 | <mrchicken> but is rdesktop is free?
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| 08:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: no idea sorry
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| 08:01 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> the rdesktop is open source, but uses the TS licenses
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| 08:02 | mrchicken: the vnc... is it slow?
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| 08:02 | <sep> mrchicken, yes it's free.
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| 08:02 | * sh3mh4mf0r4sh s making ltsp-build-clients (...) | |
| 08:02 | <mrchicken> VNC is not that slow
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| 08:02 | <sep> kaminski-ltsp-br, anything that uses the rdp server of windows uses the TS lisences
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| 08:03 | <mrchicken> although it only works for one user, I believe :(
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| 08:03 | <sep> vnc works okaish on fast links
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| 08:03 | you could try freenx
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| 08:03 | dont know how it would work on windows
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| 08:03 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> there's about 200 users here to access a software that only runs in win
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| 08:03 | <sep> but it works great on linux
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| 08:03 | <mrchicken> well u could use ltsp and wine :P
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| 08:04 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: the wine dont resolve our problem... it's a very problematic software... lol
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| 08:04 | an ERP
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| 08:05 | <mrchicken> welll maybe I could suit you up with a linux-based ERP that kicks SAPs arse?
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| 08:05 | <sep> kaminski-ltsp-br, migrate to something that dont tie you to a software vendor
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| 08:05 | <mrchicken> I am right now deploying one
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| 08:05 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: we are planning to use an open source erp, but the proccess is complicated yet
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| 08:06 | we have about 100 ltsp terminals here, and the users need access the erp... we are using the windows TS, but I dont like it
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| 08:06 | <mrchicken> why not take the hard, complex and reeeeaaaaaaly troublesome step now, instead of getting more info into the old erp and then having to migrate three tons more data
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| 08:07 | try VNC
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| 08:07 | and see how it goes
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| 08:07 | I am not sure if it allows multiple clients
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| 08:08 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: I'll try it... about the erp... the proccess to get the step is complicated... but we are planning it to this year
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| 08:09 | <mrchicken> kaminski-ltsp-br ... I'm deploying one for a medicine center
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| 08:09 | <mrchicken> I feel its gonna be a pain... all these guys are used to either having the accounting on paper OR on excel
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| 08:10 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: cool. here, at TECPAR, we have about 500 users, and the atctual erp is very advanced.. but it runs only in f*ckin' win
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| 08:10 | <mrchicken> and... if you run vmware in linux
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| 08:10 | and get a windows vm in there>
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| 08:11 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> dont know if the server will be ok... about 200 users accessing a windows vm... with ltsp
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| 08:13 | <mrchicken> if u have enough muscle on da server (please note, its gotta be DA server) it shouldnt be a problem
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| 08:13 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> its easy to access a linux desktop from a windows, but access a windows desktop from a linux... it's a problem...
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| 08:14 | <mrchicken> welll there is the last resort
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| 08:14 | its complex and hard...
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| 08:14 | I dont know if you'd be able to do it tho, its VERY complicated
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| 08:14 | u think ur up to it?
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| 08:17 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> ?
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| 08:17 | my english is poor.. lol
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| 08:17 | <mrchicken> Ahh, you just spoiled the joke :(
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| 08:17 | The answer was UTFG
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| 08:17 | Use The F Google :P:P
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| 08:17 | lol
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| 08:19 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> lol... this guy is my best friend
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| 08:19 | :P
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| 08:19 | <mrchicken> yeah, he's like an oracle... you ask him and he will answer
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| 08:20 | and strangely enough porn is not the standard answer
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| 08:21 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> i already ask him a lot about the acces to the desktop... but he doesnt answer with an open source solution yet
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| 08:22 | :P
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| 08:22 | <mrchicken> uhhh there is this other guy
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| 08:23 | he normally gives good answers freshmeat
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| 08:23 | I think the guy is a retired butcher that became a geek
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| 08:23 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> lol
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| 08:23 | <mrchicken> hey kaminski-ltsp-br ... by any chances u think y could help me out?
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| 08:24 | my ltsp client is not logging in
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| 08:24 | I get the login screen
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| 08:24 | but when I try to log in I get nothing
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| 08:24 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hmm
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| 08:24 | <mrchicken> nothing = the login screen again
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| 08:25 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> at the syslog.. can you see somethinf strange?
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| 08:26 | <mrchicken> var/log/messages only shows the dhcp being ack and the tftp going thru
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| 08:27 | <Gadi> mrchicken: LTSP5 OR 4.2>
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| 08:27 | <mrchicken> 4.3
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| 08:27 | ack
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| 08:27 | 4.2
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| 08:27 | hehe
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| 08:27 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> it may be a pam problem
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| 08:28 | <Gadi> in that case, check the user's ~/.xsession-errors
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| 08:28 | otherwise check pam as kaminski-ltsp-br says
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| 08:28 | it has nothing to do with ltsp
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| 08:30 | <mrchicken> wgat is pam?
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| 08:30 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> the LTSP is working if the station can boot and you get a login sceen
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| 08:30 | screen
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| 08:30 | <Gadi> pamj = authentication
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| 08:31 | <mrchicken> weird thing is I can login from the server
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| 08:31 | nope I cant
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| 08:31 | :s
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| 08:31 | just realized I cant login from the server either
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| 08:32 | I can get into the console mode
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| 08:32 | but not x
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| 08:32 | <Gadi> there ya go
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| 08:32 | check the user's ~/.xsession-errors
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| 08:33 | or pam
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| 08:33 | <mrchicken> cant find any :S
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> does the user have a home dir?
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| 08:33 | <mrchicken> yeah its root :P
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> dont use root
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| 08:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: i download ltsp-5.0.tar.bz2 how can i install that?
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> use a regular user
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| 08:34 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh: i have no clue ;)
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| 08:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> oh
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| 08:34 | <Gadi> maybe ogra knows
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| 08:34 | <mrchicken> Now I'm getting kernel panic
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| 08:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> well i'm now ltsp-builing-client
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| 08:34 | but want to know by sources
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| 08:34 | <mrchicken> Enforcing mode requested but no policy loaded
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| 08:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok .. i wait 4 ogra then
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| 08:34 | <Gadi> mrchicken: is this redhat?
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| 08:35 | <mrchicken> fc4 yeah
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| 08:35 | <Gadi> did u enable selinux on install?
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| 08:35 | <jammcq> mrchicken: did you get that tarball from the ltsp.org download site?
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| 08:36 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: xdm gdm kdm ?
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| 08:36 | <mrchicken> It was enabled but I uninstalled it
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> brb
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| 08:39 | mrchicken: reboot the server, then login as a user and not root
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| 08:40 | dont get into the habit of running the desktop as root
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| 08:41 | u are asking for trouble
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| 08:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> stay here long time :/
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| 08:42 | `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
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| 08:42 | 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.89.6)]
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| 08:42 | <mrchicken> no good
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| 08:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uf no route to host!
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| 08:42 | :S
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| 08:45 | what is the bot ltsp to pastebin?
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| 08:46 | anyway
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| 08:46 | plz look here!
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| 08:46 | http://pastebin.ca/386320
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| 08:46 | have troubles
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: ping archive.ubuntu.com
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| 08:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hit it!
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| 08:48 | ok
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| 08:49 | i again ltsp-buid-client and receive now
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| 08:49 | Leaving `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
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| 08:49 | `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
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| 08:49 | ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists
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| 08:49 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 08:49 | <Gadi> delete /opt/ltsp
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| 08:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 08:49 | <Gadi> then run again
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| 08:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 08:49 | running....
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| 08:49 | can i save all .deb downloaded to keep it?
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> if u have an ubuntu cd you can use it instead of the web repo
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| 08:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> how?
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| 08:51 | * Gadi is unsure of exact syntax | |
| 08:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 08:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> anyway i save this .deb package
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| 08:51 | <Gadi> again, a qu for ogra
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| 08:51 | ;)
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| 08:51 | <dellin> jammcq: what is differance in our ltsp and 2x
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| 08:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> je
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| 08:52 | <dellin> or any one able to tell me pls
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| 08:53 | <jammcq> dellin: ltsp is free
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| 08:54 | <Gadi> dellin: they are different ways of achieving similar things
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| 08:54 | <cliebow> ogra: are ppc machines orphaned at edgy..or can i build a ppc chroot for feisty
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| 08:54 | <Gadi> the diffs are mostly implementation
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| 08:54 | <dellin> and can u pls tell me techincally what is differance and features
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| 08:54 | <Gadi> details are on both websites
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| 08:55 | there are too many to go into here
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| 08:55 | <jammcq> dellin: sorry, I don't know anything about 2x
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| 08:55 | <dellin> ok
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| 08:55 | <jammcq> we specialize in LTSP, not 2x
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| 08:55 | <dellin> thanks
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| 08:57 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> errrr
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| 08:57 | libdiscover1 discover1 libaudiofile0 esound-common libesd-alsa0 esound human-cursors-theme ltspfsd usplash xfonts-100dpi
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| 08:57 | xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable libgl1-mesa-dri xterm xorg xresprobe
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| 08:57 | E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
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| 08:58 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 08:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ltsp-build-client continues outing error
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| 09:00 | is that auto?
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| 09:00 | have ubuntu 6.10 installed right now and make steps of ltsp-doc of wiki
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| 09:00 | where is the easy way?
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| 09:07 | <otavio> jammcq: Hi
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| 09:07 | jammcq: when LTSP 5 was officially release?
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| 09:08 | jammcq: I saw it as available for download on the page but there's no date of release there. I'm writting an article about it for a magazine here of Brazil and would like to put it there
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| 09:09 | <jammcq> otavio: well, that's a hard question, cuz it's not really "officially released". We put those tarballs up there last saturday
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| 09:10 | <otavio> jammcq: so this is the release date I should put?
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| 09:10 | jammcq: and 4.2? 04/08/2006?
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| 09:10 | <jammcq> well, it's as good as any, I suppose
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| 09:10 | 4.2u4 was 2006
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| 09:10 | that's the latest update to ltsp-4.2
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| 09:10 | <otavio> jammcq: no no, the first one
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| 09:11 | <jammcq> hmm, lemme check
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| 09:11 | <otavio> jammcq: I'm writting this article for the Linux Magazine here in Brazil
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| 09:12 | jammcq: Its title is: Linux Terminal Server Project - The yestarday, today and tomorrow (it's in Portuguese)
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| 09:12 | jammcq: In English it's more like: The past, the present and the future
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| 09:12 | <jammcq> yeah, APr 4th, 2006
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| 09:12 | seems like it was much longer ago
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| 09:12 | otavio: very cool about the magazine article
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| 09:13 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: try: sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
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| 09:13 | <otavio> jammcq: can I bore you a little today with it? I hope you don't mind
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| 09:14 | <jammcq> "bore me" heh, sure
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| 09:14 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: well.. let c now
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| 09:14 | <otavio> jammcq: on the past I'll talk about the 4.2. Basically I want to guide the reader to understand what's the problems motivated us to work on the LTSP5 idea
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| 09:14 | <jammcq> although I have to leave in about 45 minutes. gonna go checkout a new computer lab at Oakland University that just deployed 50 LTSP terminals
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| 09:14 | otavio: the MueKow specification should help with some of that information
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| 09:14 | <otavio> jammcq: oh! great. No problem. It can be tomorrow
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| 09:16 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: uff again forgot rm -rf /opt/ltsp O:)
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| 09:16 | is mirroring vs cdrom
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| 09:19 | Gadi: have error again
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| 09:19 | laptop-detect is already the newest version.
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| 09:19 | E: Couldn't find package ltspfsd
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| 09:19 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 09:20 | how fix that?
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| 09:21 | ping somebody?
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| 09:23 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: ?
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| 09:26 | Gadi: !!
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| 09:26 | this not works!
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| 09:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> heyyyyyyyyy!!!
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| 09:39 | root@opensource:~# aptitude install ltspfsd
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| 09:39 | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ltspfsd"
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| 09:39 | this ltsp ver 5 is unstable or what?
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| 09:39 | <jammcq> moquist: ping
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| 09:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> http://pastebin.ca/386372
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| 09:42 | <moquist> jammcq: pongo
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| 09:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> somebody can help me!?
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| 09:48 | o.O
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| 09:48 | plz
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| 10:17 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: !
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| 10:26 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: look
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| 10:26 | root@opensource:~# ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
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| 10:26 | I: Retrieving Release
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| 10:26 | E: Failed getting release file file:///cdrom/dists/edgy/Release
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| 10:26 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 10:27 | <Gadi> is the edgy cd in the cdrom drive?
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| 10:27 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> sure
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| 10:27 | <Gadi> is it mounted?
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| 10:27 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> okok now yes
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| 10:28 | <PBLUE> DEAR Sir
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| 10:29 | <PBLUE> can everbody help me regarding nfs?
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| 10:29 | <Gadi> PBLUE: if you can be more specific
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| 10:31 | <PBLUE> i am using mandrake 9.0 v
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| 10:31 | all dhcpd.conf ok
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| 10:31 | but only nfs 1 section
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| 10:32 | went i cek that the problem
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| 10:32 | the other 2 nfs section ok
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| 10:32 | <PBLUE> only the last one
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| 10:33 | <PBLUE> evertime i ltspadmin
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| 10:33 | he say....must boot then the nfs can run
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| 10:34 | i used /etc/init.d/nfs start its ok..
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> when u type: showmount -e
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| 10:34 | <PBLUE> its ok...
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> do you get /opt/ltsp as one of the entries?
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| 10:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: by cdrom have same problem
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| 10:34 | Building dependency tree... Done
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| 10:34 | laptop-detect is already the newest version.
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| 10:34 | E: Couldn't find package ltspfsd
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| 10:34 | i instaled by aptitude this package and installed ok
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: rm -rf /opt/ltsp
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| 10:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> and build client by cdrom out again the error
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| 10:35 | <PBLUE> var
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| 10:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i do that !
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| 10:35 | <PBLUE> opt
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| 10:35 | showmount
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| 10:35 | all ok
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| 10:35 | <Gadi> PBLUE: so where's the error? when you boot the thin client?
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| 10:36 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh: you wouldn't get an error that something is already the newest version unless its already there
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| 10:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ?
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| 10:36 | <Gadi> when you run ltsp-build-client, the packages that are being downloaded are in the /opt/ltsp/i386 chroot
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| 10:36 | not the system
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| 10:37 | so, if you are getting that error, it means you ran it when /opt/ltsp already existed
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| 10:37 | <PBLUE> ok gadi i will came back bring the erorrr ok tq
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| 10:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> but client build is asking for ltspsfd packages
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| 10:37 | and cdrom not havent
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| 10:37 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: lemme check something....
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| 10:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> are you sure its an edgy CD?
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| 10:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes ubuntu 6.10 edgy cd alternative.iso
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 10:39 | ltspfsd is in the main repository, so it should be on the D
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| 10:39 | er, CD
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| 10:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i make later...the wiki.ltsp.5 ver
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| 10:39 | sudo aptitude blabla server
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| 10:39 | and later..
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| 10:39 | this by cdrom
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| 10:39 | and broken
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| 10:39 | word by word
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| 10:39 | if i select build
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> you made what? ur own CD?
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| 10:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> no no
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| 10:40 | with your line
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| 10:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> buildclient mirror file:///cdrom
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| 10:40 | and if i select normal standar
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| 10:40 | then conection out by archive.ubuntu.com
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| 10:40 | because not response the mirror
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| 10:40 | and the server response ok by ping
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| 10:41 | <Gadi> do this: grep ubuntu.com /etc/apt/sources.list
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| 10:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> have us.archive.ubuntu.com
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| 10:42 | but ltsp in the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
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| 10:42 | have
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| 10:42 | <blinky_ghost> hi, I'm using ltsp-4.2, everything works fine but the mouse is darn fast, I've changed X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 20, but it's still fast, how can i slow it down?
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| 10:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> archive.ubuntu.com
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| 10:42 | <Gadi> ok. try: sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
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| 10:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Go!
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| 10:43 | blinky_ghost: i guess use 400 not 20
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| 10:43 | <Gadi> blinky_ghost: USB mouse?
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| 10:43 | <blinky_ghost> gadi: ps/2
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| 10:43 | <Gadi> blinky_ghost: try: X_USBMOUSE_DEVICE = "/dev/null"
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| 10:43 | in lts.conf
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| 10:44 | <blinky_ghost> should i keep X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 20?
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| 10:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> root@opensource:~# sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
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| 10:44 | I: Retrieving Release
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| 10:44 | E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/edgy/Release
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| 10:44 | <Gadi> blinky_ghost: that prolly wont do anything :)
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| 10:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> root@opensource:~# grep ubuntu.com /etc/apt/sources.list
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| 10:45 | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
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| 10:45 | deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
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| 10:45 | ok now works
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| 10:45 | Gadi: is --mirror http://blablabla.com/ubuntu
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| 10:46 | :)
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| 10:46 | * sh3mh4mf0r4sh is waiting again...... N times! :-| | |
| 10:46 | <blinky_ghost> gadi, that's it :) should I use this to usb mouses too?
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| 10:46 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: try: sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com main restricted"
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| 10:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> is working now
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| 10:47 | <Gadi> blinky_ghost: yeah - its a bug in LTSP 4.2
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| 10:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> 4.2 have many
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| 10:48 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: not really
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| 10:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> well... pen drives with loop FS not mounted
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| 10:48 | and the realtek 8111B of P4 onboard not have a kernel drive
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| 10:48 | <Gadi> who plugs in a pen drive with a loop fs?
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| 10:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> this are 2 more ..
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| 10:49 | here have some pen drives can mounted... and others not mounted for that
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| 10:49 | linux out many partitions logins volumes
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| 10:49 | and i formatted and nothing
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| 10:49 | <Gadi> with *loop* fs?
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| 10:49 | surely not
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| 10:49 | <blinky_ghost> gadi, thanks a lot :) let me ask you another thing: I'm using rdesktop script on a client, when he's working on excel and presses the "-" sign on num keyboard, it justs appears an EXT on the corner of the screen...I guess it's a rdesktop bug or something?
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| 10:50 | <Gadi> blinky_ghost: you can pass a special keymap with rdesktop -k <keymap>
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| 10:50 | do you have a us keyboard?
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| 10:51 | <blinky_ghost> no, portuguese
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| 10:51 | <Gadi> is that ant?
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| 10:51 | whats the keymap?
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| 10:52 | <blinky_ghost> pt
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| 10:52 | -k pt
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| 10:52 | <Gadi> right
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| 10:52 | do that
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| 10:52 | in lts.conf, make sure the rdesktop line is in ""
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| 10:53 | so: SCREEN_02 = "rdesktop -k pt <IP>"
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| 10:53 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> need know how is instalation by sources like this http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/ because in many places can't access to internet :(
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| 10:53 | <blinky_ghost> i have the -k pt on rdp_options, isn't the same thing?
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| 10:53 | <Gadi> yeah, thats fine. as long as its in ""
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| 10:54 | <blinky_ghost> ok
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| 10:54 | <blinky_ghost> i'll try
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| 10:54 | thanks a lot
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| 10:54 | <Gadi> np
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| 10:55 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: if that last command works, we may have needed to put "main restricted" after the cdrom call
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| 10:56 | * Gadi not sure | |
| 10:56 | <Gadi> havent played with it much and didnt write the code
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| 10:56 | :(
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| 10:56 | <antgel> hi all, i've borked my ltsp setup, and angry users hate me! :) dhcpd.conf at http://www.pastebin.ca/386452, clients boot with infinite loop of nfsmount: need a path // Begin: Retrying nfs mount
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| 10:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: so what i type in the shell?
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| 10:56 | i'm retrieving all morning and not works nothing yet :S
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| 10:57 | this process is very bored
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| 10:57 | <antgel> needless to say, i've checked everything i can think of and it's probably something stupid
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: sorry. ur stuck with the guy who doesn't know the answer :)
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| 10:59 | just trying a few things
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| 11:00 | antgel: is this LTSP 5?
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| 11:00 | or 4.2?
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| 11:01 | <antgel> Gadi: 4.2
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| 11:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: yes have to wait by ogra i guess
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| 11:01 | <antgel> hmm, i wonder if i'm accidentally booting into my muekow
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> antgel: I think you are
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| 11:02 | the filenames are muekow names
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| 11:05 | <antgel> Gadi: actually, i think i meant to use the muekow
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| 11:06 | my 4.2 never worked properly but i'll get it configured in the background
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| 11:06 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> muekow? what is this?
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| 11:06 | <Gadi> you *think*?
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| 11:06 | <antgel> this is an alpha trial. :)
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| 11:06 | <ogra_> Gadi, well, t6hen the dhcpd.conf wouldnt be that cluttered ;)
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| 11:07 | <ogra_> antgel, note that muecow uses /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 11:08 | <Gadi> ogra_: welcome to the party. save me from talking out of my arse, please... ;)
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| 11:08 | <ogra_> (which is preconfigured in ubuntu at least, in debian you have to set it up)
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| 11:08 | Gadi, intresting that --mirror line above worked ... its not supposed to ;)
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| 11:08 | <antgel> ogra_: wow. my muekow was working for a while until my latest dhcpd.conf "refactoring"
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| 11:09 | * Gadi doesnt think it did :) | |
| 11:09 | <ogra_> sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu would be the right line
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| 11:09 | dont use components (main/universe etc) in it ... thats what the --components option is for
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| 11:09 | <ogra_> antgel, is that ubuntu or debian ?
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| 11:10 | <antgel> ogra_: debian etch
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| 11:10 | i was using muekow now i think about it, and it was all working
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| 11:10 | <ogra_> and the file you pasted was from /etc/ltsp ?
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| 11:11 | <antgel> but i haven't deleted /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf - never had that file
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| 11:11 | <ogra_> then you havent used muecow
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| 11:11 | ltsp-server-standalone installs that file
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| 11:11 | <bricode> ogra: What version of Xorg is included in feisty? Is there a build script for fesity fat clients?
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| 11:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uff at last
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| 11:12 | <antgel> ogra_: i already had a dhcp server so didn't install ltsp-server-standalone, just ltsp-server
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| 11:12 | <ogra_> bricode, nope, fat clientsd were deferred until we have a proper network authentication mechanism
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| 11:12 | <antgel> that's still muekow, right?
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| 11:12 | <ogra_> antgel, ah
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| 11:12 | right
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| 11:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra_: need help from you tocan installed from sources the 5 ver when i can't acces to internet.. have here the +100 MB of tar.bz2
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| 11:12 | <ogra_> as long as you used ltsp-build-client to build it, and didnt touch ltsp-utils its muecow
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| 11:12 | <antgel> ogra_: Gadi made me think, but my filenames are correct under /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 11:13 | <ogra_> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, there is no such thing like "installing ltsp5 from sources"
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| 11:13 | use the ltsp-öbuild-client script of your distro
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| 11:13 | <antgel> ogra_: doesn't ltsp-utils overwrite only /opt/ltsp-4.2 and leave /opt/ltsp alone?
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| 11:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/
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| 11:13 | what's that then?
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| 11:13 | <ogra_> antgel, it changes tftp and other stuff
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| 11:13 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no idea
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| 11:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> take a look
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| 11:14 | <ogra_> antgel, also 4.2 uses /opt/ltsp
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| 11:14 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no time i'm very very busy
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| 11:14 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i guess that was like 4.2u2.iso
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| 11:14 | ok inside exist this files
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| 11:14 | <ogra_> asdk the person who9 created that tarballs
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| 11:14 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> [ ] ltsp_debian_etch_i386-1.tar.bz2 04-Mar-2007 08:46 143M
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| 11:14 | [ ] ltsp_ubuntu_6.10_i386-1.tar.bz2 04-Mar-2007 08:47 124M
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| 11:14 | <bricode> ogra_: Does Feisty include Xorg 7.2?
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| 11:14 | <ogra_> i see the fiules
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| 11:14 | i dont have time to look at them
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| 11:14 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ahh
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| 11:14 | <ogra_> ansd i have no idea who made them
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| 11:14 | <antgel> ogra_: i'll check my tftp config again
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| 11:14 | <ogra_> ask the person who made them
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| 11:15 | antgel, 4.2 uses /tftpboot
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| 11:15 | muecow cant handle that
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| 11:15 | <antgel> ogra_: i'm using /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 11:15 | <ogra_> since it breaks FHS and debian policy
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| 11:15 | bricode, yes
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| 11:16 | bricode, since a week or so
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| 11:16 | <antgel> i'm so pissed off, this was working all day
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| 11:16 | ogra_: i didn't use ltspadmin to alter tftp params, just to generate a new dhcpd.conf
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| 11:16 | which is in the pastebin
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| 11:17 | <shah> helo gadi
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| 11:18 | i need u help ref for nfs?
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| 11:18 | i am used mandrake 9.0
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| 11:18 | my prob is nfs?
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| 11:19 | <ogra_> antgel, well, there is a bug open in debian about adding a package conflict between ltsp-server and ltsp-utils because nobody ever really tested what all breaks if you use them together
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| 11:19 | <antgel> ogra_: ack. does my dhcpd.conf look sane?
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| 11:19 | <Gadi> shah: are you and antgel related? ;)
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| 11:19 | <ogra_> in ubuntu ltsp-utils was removeds from the archive in edgy already
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| 11:20 | <ogra_> i dont see any mistakes in it
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| 11:20 | <antgel> ogra_: so wipe it and start again
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| 11:20 | <Gadi> antgel: make sure you dont have a conflicting dhcp server on the same subnet
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| 11:20 | <ogra_> right
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| 11:20 | <Gadi> if you do, you can get nfs errors
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| 11:20 | <ogra_> Gadi beats me :)
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| 11:20 | <antgel> nah, it's just the one
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| 11:21 | <Gadi> antgel: ok, but making sure will save you lots of d/l time ;)
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| 11:21 | <ogra_> antgel, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/dhcpd.conf-simple
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| 11:22 | <antgel> ogra_: so basically, wipe it and start again. i recall local devices don't work on muekow, does that include printers?
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| 11:22 | <ogra_> thats how our muecow default file looks like
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| 11:22 | just replace the IP data
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| 11:22 | <antgel> that's almost exactly what i have, except for the 192.168.2.10: in root-path
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| 11:22 | * antgel edits the file | |
| 11:23 | <shah> helo anybody can help me regarding nfs?
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| 11:24 | <antgel> ooh, nfs server not responding, timed out
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| 11:24 | and now it's booting, wtf?
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| 11:24 | <shah> yes
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| 11:24 | its booting
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| 11:24 | <antgel> ogra_: is that normal during boot?
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| 11:24 | <shah> showmount ok
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| 11:24 | etc
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| 11:24 | <ogra_> antgel, depends, some slow NICs have probs with nfs timing out
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| 11:24 | <shah> init.d
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| 11:25 | nfs
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| 11:25 | all ok
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| 11:25 | <antgel> so root-path shouldn't contain an IP address in muekow
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| 11:25 | <ogra_> antgel, wiki.ltsp.org has a reciepe
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| 11:25 | <shah> but when cek ltspadmin
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| 11:25 | its no?
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| 11:25 | pls..
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| 11:25 | <ogra_> antgel, well, it *shouldÜ* work with IP ... if it defuinately doesnt thats a bug
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| 11:26 | <shah> how to change back to yes?
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| 11:26 | <ogra_> so please file one about it :)
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| 11:26 | <antgel> ogra_: i'll change it back and let you know
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| 11:26 | <shah> [root@localhost root]# /sbin/service nfs status rpc.mountd (pid 2672) is running... nfsd (pid 2660) is running... 2659 (pid 2658) is running... 2657 (pid 2656) is running... 2655 (pid 2654) is running... 2651 (pid ) is running... [root@localhost root]# [root@localhost root]# /sbin/service nfs status rpc.mountd (pid 2672) is running... nfsd (pid 2660) is running... 2659 (pid 2658) is running... 2657 (pid 2656) is running... 2655 (pid 2654) is running... 2651 (pid
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| 11:26 | everting its ok
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| 11:27 | <antgel> ogra_: that was the issue it seems
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| 11:27 | <shah> i do k12ltsp its ok no problem...
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| 11:28 | <ogra_> antgel, would youo file a bug ? either in debians BTS or in launchpad ? ( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+filebug )
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| 11:28 | <shah> whent used ltsp to mix its probelem...
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| 11:28 | <antgel> yep no problem
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| 11:28 | <ogra_> thanks :)
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| 11:28 | <shah> so what i was to do nfs?????
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| 11:28 | <ogra_> i'll try to tryck it down before the feisty release
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| 11:29 | *track
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| 11:29 | <antgel> now to find out how to get a host stanza in without the messy group {} thing in the 4.2 docs
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| 11:29 | <ogra_> even though debian might have to do a backport then
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| 11:36 | <antgel> does ltsp work with .local, mdns, avahi etc, or do i have to run a zone on a traditional dns server, to get hostnames?
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| 11:37 | <AMSmith42> Would it make the most sense to use the same distro that I want to use on my thin clients (i.e. Kubuntu) for my server?
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| 11:38 | Or does it even matter?
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| 11:41 | <cliebow> AMSmith42, the clients will use the desktop of your server
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| 11:42 | It Is the server you see
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| 11:43 | <AMSmith42> Thank you.
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| 11:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uff
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| 11:43 | ogra_: have same problem
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| 11:43 | with mirror
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| 11:44 | Adding `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
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| 11:44 | `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
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| 11:44 | Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 91.189.89.6 80]
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| 11:45 | this build-client not works
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| 11:46 | Reading package lists... Done
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| 11:46 | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
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| 11:46 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 11:48 | so!!?? what i do then.. if apt not works!?
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| 11:55 | <mistik1> oh blast, connection unstable today
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| 11:55 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Reading package lists... Done
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| 11:55 | Building dependency tree... Done
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| 11:55 | laptop-detect is already the newest version.
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| 11:55 | E: Couldn't find package ltspfsd
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| 11:55 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 11:58 | <cliebow> is this where 6ou ask questions about madcow?
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| 12:00 | <mistik1> This is where you ask about fatted calf
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| 12:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey.. no one know why build client has error ^ ?
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| 12:01 | have all morning in this ...
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| 12:05 | <mistik1> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: can you get to this in your browser reliably? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
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| 12:28 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes
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| 12:28 | Name Last modified Size [DIR] ubuntu/ 08-Mar-2007 18:12
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| 12:29 | including the official site of build-client i can hit too
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| 12:30 | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
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| 12:30 | btw all are retreive by this same sources.list
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| 12:31 | i test 2 mirror differents and build with cdrom and either
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| 12:40 | uff
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| 12:40 | this not works
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| 12:40 | i try with etch to fetch this
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| 12:40 | ubuntu not works
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| 13:37 | <dmorar> hi
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| 13:38 | <dmorar> hi, i have two questions, how can i disconnect (and see who is connected) users from terminals?, and also aan i use rdp with ltsp (so i can ontrol my terminals)?
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| 13:48 | * kaminski-ltsp-br is away: mv kaminski ~ | |
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| 13:55 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> reee
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| 13:55 | i'm building now vs my mirror local to make this fastes
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| 13:56 | and with etch
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| 14:00 | well... have a nice point of view
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| 14:00 | with etch works
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| 14:00 | ubuntu edgy broken because have to rm again
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| 14:00 | opt/ltsp
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| 14:05 | hey..
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| 14:05 | plas plas plas ... now build client again
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| 14:05 | :)
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| 14:05 | works cool
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| 14:59 | <mrchicken> Hello =)
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| 15:21 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey
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| 15:21 | i can run client
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| 15:21 | but
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| 15:21 | now
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| 15:22 | stay trying to nfsmount
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| 15:22 | and error said
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| 15:22 | nfsmount need a path
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| 15:22 | where i set it?
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| 15:23 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra_: ?
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| 15:23 | Gadi: ?
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| 15:23 | cliebow_: ?
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| 15:26 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mistik1: ?
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| 15:29 | <bricode> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: Do you have root-path defined in dhcpd.conf?
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| 15:30 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes
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| 15:31 | lemme check again... i try to test the 5 ver
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| 15:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> no .. not work
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| 15:33 | :/
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| 15:34 | said. nfs mount
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| 15:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> catch ip
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| 15:34 | broadcast
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| 15:34 | netmas
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| 15:34 | gw
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| 15:34 | domain
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| 15:34 | rootserver : with ip
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| 15:34 | rootpah: ip:/path
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| 15:35 | filename : thefile
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| 15:35 | begin
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| 15:35 | Done
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| 15:35 | and said again
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| 15:35 | trying nfsmount
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| 15:35 | need a path
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| 15:35 | :s
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| 15:35 | that's all
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| 15:35 | any idea?
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| 15:35 | <bricode> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: No, sorry.
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| 15:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i guess this ltsp 5 resolve all this :|
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| 15:36 | but finish with work half
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| 15:36 | have to separete the tftp
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| 15:36 | of inet to run like a daemon
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| 15:36 | because have tftp problems 1st
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| 15:36 | anyway . i fix that
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| 15:37 | but now nfs is the problem
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| 15:37 | :(
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| 15:37 | <mrchicken> I have the same prob
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| 15:37 | nfs and permissions
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| 15:37 | <mrchicken> sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... did you disable SELinux?
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| 15:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> selinux?
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| 15:38 | how can i do that?
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| 15:39 | how can i know if selinux is enable or not? :\
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| 15:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: u have the clientes again and again trying to mount nfs? mount ???
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| 15:42 | s/clientes/clients
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| 15:42 | * sh3mh4mf0r4sh is hispan | |
| 15:42 | <mrchicken> I speak spanish :)
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| 15:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> no jodas!
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| 15:43 | con el trabajo que paso aqui pa hablar ingles
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| 15:43 | xD
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| 15:43 | <mrchicken> si si
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| 15:43 | de donde eres :)
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| 15:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cuba
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| 15:43 | tu?
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| 15:43 | <mrchicken> ahhh vea pues
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| 15:43 | Colombia
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| 15:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yap
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| 15:44 | a ti se te resetea las clientes con la gracia esta?
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| 15:44 | que tratan y tratan y tratan?
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| 15:44 | pero no se monta?
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| 15:44 | <mrchicken> a mi me sale Kernel Panic
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| 15:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ah nnono
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| 15:44 | a mino
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| 15:44 | a mi me corre normal
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| 15:44 | me parece que camino un poco mas que tu en el kernel
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| 15:44 | ven aca y como se si el selinux famosos ese lo tengo activado
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| 15:44 | pq no tengo nad que ver con esa talla
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| 15:45 | pense que el ltsp5 era automatico y lo queme ha echo es dejar las cosas a medias..
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| 15:45 | nama sirvio pa aptear lso paquetes nada mas
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| 15:45 | :S
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| 15:45 | <mrchicken> por eso es que yo estoy con el 4.2
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| 15:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> tuve que copiar los /etc/hosts [.allow] exports del 4.2
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| 15:45 | y pa colmo crear = del 4.2 el lts.conf
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| 15:45 | pq no esta en el directorio donde debe ir
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| 15:46 | * bricode needs to learn Spanish. | |
| 15:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: si yo tambien pero tengo bateo con las flashes que algunas me montan otra no por culpa de la tabla de ficheros
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| 15:46 | bricode: i can learn you if you teach me english better :P
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| 15:46 | <bricode> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: Excellent. Cuba is on my list of places to visit :)
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| 15:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmm
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| 15:47 | where i hear that!?
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| 15:47 | ok....
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| 15:47 | <mrchicken> sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... deberias probar con VMWare
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| 15:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nanna p que?
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| 15:47 | <mrchicken> asi te ahorras la reiniciada mamona
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| 15:47 | de mil maquinas
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| 15:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nonno si lo estoyo tirando con un cruzado
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| 15:48 | directo a la laptop
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| 15:48 | a ver si levanta
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| 15:48 | pero esta ahi ahi ahi tratando de montar el NFS :/
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| 15:48 | somebody is active too?
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| 15:48 | bricode: your english friends stay out here :(
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| 15:49 | <mrchicken> now I get I have no options-root in my dhcpd conf
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| 15:53 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: resolvistes algo mas?
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| 15:53 | <mrchicken> Nooo cuales
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| 15:54 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> te sigue dando kernel panic?
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| 15:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> bueno
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| 15:56 | me fui
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| 16:02 | <mistik1> .
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| 16:36 | <antgel> hi all, can someone who is logging the channel paste me a /lastlog antgel in /msg please - i was here earlier but lost the ltsp bug reporting url
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| 16:38 | ooh, don't worry, my bug is already known http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=395145
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| 20:19 | <jammcq> awful darned quiet around here
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| 21:33 | <jammcq> Gadi: ?
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| 21:33 | <Gadi> just playing
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| 21:33 | :)
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| 21:34 | my battery should die soon
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| 21:34 | <jammcq> heh
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| 21:34 | <Gadi> d/l'd the 686 kernel for my lappy
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| 21:34 | wow-what a difference
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| 21:34 | <jammcq> what distro?
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| 21:34 | <Gadi> edgy
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| 21:34 | <jammcq> there's a separate 686 kernel?
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| 21:34 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 21:34 | much faster than 386
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| 21:35 | <jammcq> linux-image-686 - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic
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| 21:35 | <Gadi> right
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| 21:35 | so its the generic one
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| 21:35 | vs. the stock 386 one
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| 21:35 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 21:36 | I just checked my edgy desktop, and it's got linux-image-generic
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| 21:36 | no mention of 386
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| 21:36 | <Gadi> my lappy's a product of a dist-upgrade
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| 21:36 | and I had linux-image-386
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| 21:36 | <jammcq> ooooooh
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| 21:36 | so, I won't gain anything by going to linux-image-686
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| 21:37 | <Gadi> right
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| 21:37 | but check this:
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| 21:37 | this thing is a P3/1GHz with i810 chipset
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| 21:37 | now, video's fully accelarated
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| 21:37 | and kernel's running super fast
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| 21:37 | <jammcq> wow
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| 21:37 | cool
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| 21:38 | <Gadi> even playing with beryl is nice
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| 21:38 | :)
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| 21:38 | I love when computers get better with age ;)
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| 21:41 | so whats new jammcq?
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| 21:42 | <jammcq> umm, just keeping busy
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| 21:42 | you?
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| 21:42 | <Gadi> not much
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| 21:43 | <bricode> Either of you guys coming up to Linuxworld in Toronto at the end of April?
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| 21:43 | <Gadi> not I
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| 21:43 | Im knee deep in diapers these days
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| 21:43 | <jammcq> not i
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| 21:43 | <Gadi> and not the kind you wear on a long ride to toronto
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| 21:43 | <bricode> jammcq: You're heading to FISL though right?
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| 21:44 | Gadi: It's only an hour flight...
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| 21:44 | <jammcq> bricode: you betcha
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| 21:44 | <bricode> jammcq: Any other LTSP cats heading South?
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| 21:45 | * vagrantc wonders how far south from what relative point | |
| 21:45 | <bricode> vagrantc: Brazil.
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| 21:45 | <jammcq> bricode: sbalneav will be with me
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| 21:45 | <vagrantc> FISL ?
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| 21:45 | <jammcq> 30 degrees south of the equator
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| 21:46 | <bricode> jammcq: Nice. Well, if the situation presents itself, I'd like to sit down for a caiperina.
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| 21:46 | <Gadi> looks like beryl and totem dont play nicely together
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| 21:46 | *sigh*
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| 21:47 | and my battery dies in 18 minutes
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| 21:47 | which is prolly closer to 12 due to nonlinearities
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| 21:47 | <jammcq> bricode: you'l be there?
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| 21:47 | <bricode> Question of the night: I deleted a file in a local git clone. What's the best way to recover it?
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| 21:47 | * jammcq knows nothing of git | |
| 21:48 | <bricode> jammcq: Yeah, I fly down with Maddog on the 5th, do some biz, hit FISL, then fly back.
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| 21:48 | <Gadi> isnt git a racial slur?
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| 21:48 | <bricode> Gadi: Offiside :)
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| 21:48 | err, offside even.
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| 21:48 | <Gadi> I refuse to use racially insensitive programs
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| 21:49 | specially ones I dont understand
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| 21:49 | I often refrain from git, gimp,
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| 21:49 | ...
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| 21:49 | ;)
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| 21:49 | why must we be so offensive?
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| 21:49 | <bricode> Gadi: git has a steep learning curve, that's for sure. Certainly not initially intuitive.
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| 21:49 | <Gadi> maybe its because we're thin and not PC
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| 21:49 | :)
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| 21:50 | c'mon, give it up for Gadi
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| 21:50 | * vagrantc gives something up | |
| 21:50 | <Gadi> thanks everybody - catch my 12 oclock show
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| 21:50 | vagrantc: where you been hiding?
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| 21:50 | y'old git
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| 21:50 | :)
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| 21:50 | <vagrantc> Gadi: so, you avoid programs but use the words?
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| 21:50 | <Gadi> just practicing
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| 21:50 | Im open to new ideas
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| 21:51 | even offensive ones
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| 21:51 | <vagrantc> ah, yes, well... i'm in one of the "new" states.
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| 21:51 | <Gadi> ironic, no?
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| 21:51 | i'm so torn and confused
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| 21:51 | must be my generation
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| 21:51 | "new" states?
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| 21:51 | did we finally force upstate new york to secede?
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| 21:51 | <bricode> Canada?
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> Gadi: there's a handful of states that claim to be the new whatever.
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| 21:52 | <Gadi> they must be the ones we ignore here in the North
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| 21:52 | :)
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| 21:52 | as long as we keep getting vegetables in the market
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| 21:53 | :)
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| 21:53 | * vagrantc laughs heartily | |
| 21:54 | <Gadi> mistik1, if you're here, I'm powering down in a bit and am too lazy to find my power cord
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| 21:55 | why does gnome power manager keep reporting more battery life?
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| 21:56 | I must be charging this thing with my wit
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| 21:56 | <jammcq> heh
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| 21:56 | something tells me it's gonna die soon
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| 21:57 | <Gadi> maybe thats why the lil battery lights are winking at me
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| 21:57 | so whats with all these bots in this channel these days?
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> my battery reporting is so almost totally worthless...
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| 21:58 | <Gadi> !ltsppbot
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| 21:58 | <ltspbot> Gadi: Error: "ltsppbot" is not a valid command.
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| 21:58 | <Gadi> ltsppbot: who are you?
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| 21:58 | <jammcq> he's the pastebot
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| 21:58 | <Gadi> sounds an awful lot like jammcq
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| 21:58 | I like a bot that does impressions
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: !topics
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| 21:58 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "!topics" is not a valid command.
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| 21:58 | <Gadi> :)
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| 21:58 | <jammcq> he announces new pastes, if someone pastes something to pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 21:59 | <vagrantc> !topics
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| 21:59 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 21:59 | <Gadi> !pastebot
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| 21:59 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 21:59 | <Gadi> i shoulda known mistik would bring back pastebot
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| 21:59 | he took him out for an awful long walk
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| 22:00 | how come we dont call him pastebot?
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| 22:00 | does someone else have that nick?
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| 22:01 | <jammcq> nope, the pastebot is one of the things we actually finished last weekend
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| 22:01 | <Gadi> strong work
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| 22:01 | <vagrantc> "finished" ?
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| 22:01 | <Gadi> pastebin sux
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| 22:01 | vagrantc: she is perfect
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| 22:03 | <vagrantc> Gadi: you are mighty talkative tonight :)
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| 22:04 | <Gadi> just punchy after a day of tanning beneath this infernal screen
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| 22:07 | <Gadi> ok. g'night all. 2moro is another day
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