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hi uncle jammcq
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i need jelp
help with what?
i wanna to do when i plug an USB FlashDrive that to be mounted automatically for the users and to bring me up on the desktop a folder which is accessing diretly that
and i did not find any help
are you able to get them to mount manually?
but i wanna when i insert the USB flash to create me on desktop a link to the files , after when i unplug to disappear this link
i use a permanant link on the desk top to USB keys local devices
and how did you done when u insert the usb flash on LSTP client to mount it automatically
but i use a very small setup to allow my kids to access Internet do homework on terminals that are set up in thier bedrooms
Barni_: are you using ltsp 4.2?
it should happen automatically
that's the big feature of 4.2
have you gone through the 12-step troubleshooting guide on the wiki?
i don't know, where is that exactly
It's near the bottom
On my clients, I plug a USB stick in and a folder icon appears on the desktop.
I click on the icon, it opens, and there are the files.
I close the folder when I'm done, and then just remove the USB stick
and the icon disappears. No need to unmount.
where exactly ... i followed it ... i have FC4
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Barni_: If it's not working for you, go through the troubleshooting steps AND
record the output from each step and post that to the LTSP mailing list.
Or try to catch sbalneaves here on the IRC.
He wrote the LDA stuff and can usually figure out the problem, but
he needs the exact output from each of the steps to figure it out (which is why he wrote the 12 steps)
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now when i plug in an USB falsh drive on the desktop appear Removable Device
but an empty folder
and the flash drive contains data
whoa I have a problem with usb stick too.. I can see the data inside but I'm unable to unmount the device corectly..
Hi, if my clients boot but they freezes loading the X... what could be the problem? (yesterday I updated the server IP and added more clients to dhcpd.conf & hosts)
g33k_work: did you change the 'next server' setting in dhcpd.conf to reflect the server's new IP?
pscheie, this option is disabled... I realized that I forgot to change the server Ip in lts.conf :$
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how can i set the LTSP default sound server
i have SOUND_DAEMON = esd but the xmms is trying to use ALSA by defaut
Barni_: You may need to install Gideon Romm's esd-for-alsa package.
It's on the wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress
I'm fuzzy on all the sound pieces. Gideon also told me that Real Player 10 uses alsa
but it won't currently work, have to use RP8
i just wanna to do, that all sound applications to use the eSound
The problem, as I understand it, is that not all applications do use the same sound system
because when is wanna to play music with xmms it's working after i set CTRL+P the eSound
but with VPL media player there is no sound
mplayer music.mp3 also is no sound
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but mplayer -ao esd music.mp3 is working perfeclty
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Is it easy to set up a ltsp server using CentOS ?
g333k_work: The easiest way to install ltsp and CentOS would be to use K12LTSP 4.2.3EL
which is LTSP packaged with Centos
pscheie, OK thanks.. let me try it
pscheie, ltsp 4.2 ?
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look for the ones with EL in the name
pscheie, do you have a http site? I'm behind hundred firewalls and proxys
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pscheie, well I'l use gftp with no passive mode
let me look...hold on
you could also use rsync
for http, try http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/k12ltsp/4.2.1EL/
how can i set that all sound applications to use the eSound ???
I think you have to set each application individually
there is no common settings available?
I don't think so, not today. Each app has its own means of setting sound config.
Many/most are moving to using gstreamer or phonon which LTSP does support
and once all apps go that route, apps should just work out of the box
but I don't think we're there yet.
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and there is any possibility to resolve that the skype sounds to work
i refer here the microphone ...
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I've secured a SIP account on the canonical server. If there are any presentations going on in California at the Ubuntu Developers conference, could somebody please post here the conference extensions?
joebaker: yeah, we've got a bunch of cool meetings today
i'll try to hang in the channel and let you know how to find us
Thanks jammcq! That Gobby tool is great! I already marked up one of your documents "ltsp-management-gui
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jammcq: It's been hard to find conference extension numbers.
hi all, philosophical question here - (sort of) I'm thinking about a fat client deployment. Lots of RAM, perhaps a GIGA speed ethernet interface, good video card and sound card. i want the local client machine to be able to handle very demanding multimedia work locally(on client), like teleconferencing but still be a "client" administratively. Is this doable?
and does it make sense?
Have I missed something obvious like an article that revies this entire idea?
I might get you wrong, but some kind of kickstart-installation?
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not planning on clients having any disk.
want them to netboot.
How slow that might be?
they wouldn't need to boot very often
bronze: funny you should be asking that question. we have a meeting at 3pm today, to discuss that very feature, and whether or not to put it in the next release of Ubuntu
at GIGa speed transfer speed won't be too large an issue
I have a theory:
bronze: how many of those "fat clients" do you want to run off a single server?
There was asecond shooter on the grassy knoll, oops wrong theory
speaking of grassy knoll, 2 weeks ago, i was down in Dallas, and I went and visited that very same grassy knoll
jammcq: depens on the sever - butr i do see the intenxive multimedia work being done locally on "Super Client" TM
sorry- cant type today
bronze: yeah, but are you talking 5 clients, 50 clients, 500 clients?
nerves toarns slicghtly grucnged
want some lessons?
cliebow, got surgery shceduled.
neves are grunched by discs
don't do it..it won't help 8)
at least not for me..
jammcq 50 to 500.
now if theyd done something besides the kness...
cliebow you've had the surgery?
yep..no more kids for me
jammcq- actualy - thats worng.
bronze: 50 clients reading all programs via NFS can be an aweful lot of traffic
500... well, that's a whole different story
i see a residental deployment, 1 to 5 units in the home. (blue sky thinking)
and then business deplyments
Sounds better to have kickstart-installation and home-directory via nfs perhaps?
with medium to alrg numbers of units per organization
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My theory is that most desktop PC will not have disks in them anymore, soonish (3-5 years)
Oh damn, there weren't any disks =)
I have feber, so forgive me.
jammcq: are you assuming all boot at the same time?
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bronze: check this web page: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ltsp-fat-clients
jammcq i assume clients load multimedia apps one after booting and keep them resident in memory until next boot.
bronze: as long as there's enough memory to keep things resident
so, excpet for normal X traffic, no extra program load goes over the LAN.
heh "SuperClient" always has enough RAM! :-)
so the fat cleint described in the articxle has a local disk?
jammcq - what issue determined that those fat clients needed to have a local disk?
that writeup was done quite a while ago
and later today, we'll be examining it and figuring out how to proceed
I see a Super client as having loads of RAM, but only a specific set of media programs to run, which are loaded once, at boot time
jammcq pm, one liner info?
heh nad my typing isstioll broken
so a Super client if differentiated from a fat client by the lack of a diskm and a fixed set of local programs/apps to offload media work
dang, tiem to rest arms.
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hi, if i have istaled the k12ltsp 5
is there a graphical tool tho configure the clients
what are the steps i must folow to begin making work a client?
panialex:if you havew configured dhcp and tftp and nfs?
cliebow: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
panialex:hAVE YOU RUN LTSPADMIN
even if i have istaled the k12ltsp i must configure these thinks?
i donbt use k12..donr\t know how "out of the box": it is..first try as root to run ltspadmin
no, you don't need ltspadmin, if you've installed k12ltsp
then what should i do?
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if you've installed k12ltsp, then the server is ready
next step is find a thin client that is capable of network booting
panialex:run netstat -anp|grep ":69"
either with PXE or Etherboot
i have a pc for that, need to download the pxe only
you HAVE pxe or you NEED pxe ?
i need pxe
i only have to try boot that pc and see if it stards?
does it have built-in network interface?
you may just need to configure the bios for 'Boot from LAN'
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no, and i have no pxe net card, i will boot it be floppy
then you'll need to go to http://www.rom-o-matic.net
and generate a boot floppy image
how do i see the version of ltsp?
look at /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/version
it says 4.2
well... there ya go
but... it could actually be update 4, "someone" forgot to update the version file when I created update 4
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so in the rom o matic page i haw to download for 5.4.2?
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panialex: that's the 'Etherboot' version. that has nothing to do with the LTSP version
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my net card is BC001
i can't remember how to identifi to download the driver
panialex: that's a mac address. that doesn't help at all
thats what is on writen on the chip
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Gadi: you sitting in Oakland right now?
no, I am comfortably sitting at a client in Brooklyn
did we solve more problems today?
Gadi: we had a good session on thin client sound
we're just now starting local apps
as for sound, it appears that gstreamer + pulse Audio will just magically solve our problems
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jammq: how do i know what room to download?
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panialex: you just need to figure out what kind of card you have
jammq: a 10/100 network card
wow! you guys got the thin client sessions today as mandatory?
it haves also a US writen
jammcq: Is there an IRC channel for the "Local Apps Conference I'm listening to on sip:email@example.com ?
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Local Apps. What about the GConfd sharing?
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joebaker: i'll bring that up in a sec
jammcq: Thanks! Is there a file being shared on Gobby? I hear typing but I don't see it.
joebaker: scotty will bring up gobby right now
scott is typing it locally ... we'll sort it ..
joebaker: we got gobby
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jammacq: I feel really good about having brought this up. Ubuntu is really tight with Gnome so this will likely actually happen.
joebaker: if anybody can make things happen, these guys can do it
Where is the WIKI they are talking about?
Wiki's need an AJAX gobby client.
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I have a problem with my ubuntu+ltsp installation.. everything work fine, I can get my client booting and it's working perfect... the problem appear when I shutdown the thin client, then try to boot again.. I get a blank screen and nothing in my server log look strange.. someone already saw this kind of problem ?
Arsenick-TC2L: there's nothing coming on the thin client screen, not even BIOS texts?
Arsenick-TC2L When that user account is logged out, try running ps aux | grep <username> to see if there are still Gnome processes running on the server.
vmlintu: the thin client boot load the kernel the problem seems to be with the Xorg, If I reboot the server everything work fine again.. for one shot ;)
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Arsenick-TC2L: you get the login screen and when you try to login you get blank screen?
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vmlintu: nop I see a white underscore, _ flashing on the left top corner then the blank screen
Arsenick-TC2L: Is this after you enter username and password? Or you don't get login screen?
nop I can't get to the login screen
nothing "graphic" appear
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If you kill X with ctrl-alt-backspace, does it help?
on the client nothing appear, I tried to restart gdm now
Arsenick-TC2L: btw, are you logging into KDE or Gnome?
it's working if I restart gdm
Does restarting gdm in the server help?
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yeah it work if I restart gdm on the server
Do you run any KDE applications when you login?
I've seen this happening when using gdm and login to KDE, it seems to kill gdm
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hmm nop it's a fresh install of ubuntu .. I've never installed anything other then the default
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have you tried turning on debugging for gdm?
also, which ubuntu version are you running?
I'll try the debug mode
with LTSP 4.2 or the Ubuntu LTSP?
I installed the ubuntu package
ok, I haven't tried the 6.10 packages yet
are you using ldm or gdm with it?
and I had a problem during the lstp-build-client I had to delete a file in the chroot the script was failing saying this file already exist.. so deleting this file make the script complete sucessfuly
it seems to be gdm
i'll try with ldm
ldm = encryption with ssh right ?
hmm that's weird..
It's quite different from the gdm approach
I'd guess there's something wrong with gdm as it wouldn't be the first time
if I let my thin client boot normaly it's freezing I mean I can't get to a tty but if I go to a tty during the boot then I can see a login in console and if I go to tty7 I see the login page.. lol
need to smoke a cigaret and think about that ;) brb
what type of thin client is it hardware wise?
it's a NTA 6020B
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what I need to do if I want my thin client connecting using ldm ?
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Hi! Can anyone give me a tip how to mount the local harddrive on the client?
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is there anybody out there?
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got time to answer a question?
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is there any one have installed ltsp4.2 on ubuntu
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looking for solution for my rdesktop in ltsp4.2
is there any one have installed ltsp4.2 on ubuntu
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hello anyone there
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anybody from k12ltsp.org
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anybody from k12ltsp.org
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with bash scripting, anyone know how to echo out (to stdout) the entire contents of stdin... without a read loop to populate a variable?
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PMantis: i'm not sure i understand your goal
dberkholz, Wanted to be able to echo the full contents of stdin to another program
the full contents of stdin is a weird phrase to me
I think I have a way to do it...
cat - > /tmp/blah
well... I can use `while read F` and loop (read only gives one line at a time)... but that seems slow.
so you basically want to cat some file or whatever, and just print the same thing back?
i think it might be easier to come up with the best way to do something if i actually knew what your real goal is, rather than your suggested implementation...
Ok, whole store....
I have an entry in /etc aliases, that redirects mail to request tracker
I wrote a shell script to go in the middle... read the "From" line of the email, then decide on the parameters that i'll pass to request tracker
But with a while read loop in there, I'm concerned about the processing time - especially if someone sends an attachment...
So, wanted to know if a simply echo could do it. I guess not.
the only thing your shell script cares about is the From line?
for decision making yes... but *all* of the email needs to echo (or cat) to request tracker
one option is to toss the mail in a file, then grep it for From and take the first instance
you're right that bash loops suck
you could also try bash-3 regexp matching
For that, I might as well use sed
But no biggie there...
yeah, sed or grep would work fine. bash definitely is not the best way to do the intensive part of it
you can read the whole file into a variable with something like foo="$(<filename)" and then do something funky with it, but it'll probably still suck more than sed/grep
I think 'cat'ing stdin to a file, then 'cat'ing it back to the RT mailgate is the best way...
Yeah, memory usage!
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i need help
how can i use skype on ltsp
i'm using esd as sound daemon and the sound is not working ...
can anybody give me a solution???
That'll prove to be very difficult
Sound over a network is not as easy as X over the network
However, to use Skype, you'd be better off compiling it for use *directly* on the thin client, and have it fire at a local application.
Then there'll be no issues with sound
and can u explain me how to do this???
or a site where it's explained???
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I haven't done this before, but...
But you'll need the LBE (LTSP Build Environment)
Download that from CVS and compile it.
Then get the source code for the app you want to be local, compile that with the LBE
Deploy the executable into the /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/bin directory
Place an icon on the desktop that opens an SSH session back to the thin client that starts the local application.
Building the LBE : instructions on the wiki at wiki.ltsp.org
if someone can explain wth rc_cleanup() in the ltsp-build-client plugins is supposed to do, that would be helpful
i don't know this weird sysv init brokenness
PMantis: sure, or debian
Or should I say, Edubuntu?
since ubuntu uses the debian function, in ../Debian/000-basic-configuration
Sure... but the ltsp-build-client is for the MueCow implementation, and I'm only aware of that being on Ubuntu... comes standard in Edubuntu, for example.
it's in debian too..
If so, then ogra is a perfect person to talk about that.
unstable or thereabouts
Ahh, didn't know that.
anyway, it just doesn't make sense
they call these variables whitelists, then from what i can tell they blacklist 'em