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Channel log from 29 June 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:43 | <newToLinux> hi, is it possible to use headset with mic and webcam through ltsp thin client?
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| 02:44 | i´ve installed ubuntu hardy with latest update
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| 02:44 | but, somewhat the ekiga or pidgin
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| 02:44 | don´t detect any speaker or mic input
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| 02:45 | done searching the launchpad and ubuntu forum
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| 02:45 | and ltsp wiki
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| 02:45 | but, a little regarding about running it through ltsp
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| 02:45 | any other links please?
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| 02:46 | to get the sound, mic and cam running on ltsp client
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| 05:50 | <Patina> I am trying to compile a kernel with nfsroot, but can not find the option to enable it. Any one know where it is, or if I need to enable something else too?
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| 06:00 | <Patina> Found it, need to enable "IP: kernel level autoconfiguration".
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| 06:44 | <InfraRed`> Hello
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| 06:45 | I have some questions i would like to ask
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| 06:46 | Ive been reading stuff about the linux terminal server project
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| 06:47 | And im interested in linking about 40 computers
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| 06:48 | I saw some mention of "fat" clients
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| 06:48 | Im not very familiar with the terminology here.. I know what a terminal server is and I understand how things work with thinclients
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| 06:49 | but what about fat clients?
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| 06:49 | Are these clients that boot localy and log onto the server where they have diskspace allocated to them?
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| 06:50 | Do they have applications installed locally and run them with their CPUs?
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| 06:50 | Or do the terminal principles of everything running on the server apply?
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| 06:51 | The hardware i have available is not bad at all and Id like a setup where their computing power can be used
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| 06:52 | since we are talking about 40 users simultaniously working on computers... i suppose it would be quite hard on the server... so if applications could be installed on the server but ran by the clients, that would be ideal
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| 06:53 | not sure if this is what "fat" clients are.
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| 06:53 | Can someone clarify it for me please?
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| 06:55 | <Patina> Sounds like you want "local apps", look for that in the docs.
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| 06:57 | <InfraRed`> I read about those ... theres even an example of firefox as a local app
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| 06:58 | But i didnt quite understand
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| 06:58 | can any application be a local app?
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| 06:58 | is this defined on each client?
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| 06:58 | would this be thin clients with local apps or... ?
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| 06:59 | Thing is that most computers id have would be laptops and I was thinking if i could get them into a setup where people could use the PC outside the office as their PC and as a terminal while in the office
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| 07:08 | <Jane_ux> hi every1
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| 07:08 | <InfraRed`> hi
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| 07:08 | <Jane_ux> i am working with LTSP and ubuntu, I did a LTSP network for a kind of a small public library
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| 07:08 | I want the terminal computer to restore the home folder each time the user logout
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| 07:08 | i made a simple script to delete and then copy the user home folder
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| 07:08 | i put the script it in the init.d, so the home folder is restored, but when the server is restarted
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| 07:08 | how can i do it when the terminal restart?? can i use the bashrc_logout or the /gmd/postsession/default??
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| 07:08 | sorry, when the terminal log out
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| 07:10 | any idea??
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| 07:11 | <InfraRed`> (i know far too little to provide any solution in linux, much less this LTSP thing but) perhaps if you would put a line at the end of whatever runs when someone logs out/in
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| 07:12 | <Jane_ux> :) obviously
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| 07:12 | thanks anyway
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| 07:14 | <InfraRed`> another solution perhaps
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| 07:14 | if u just have 1 user account
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| 07:14 | u could go to
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| 07:15 | erm... where is it, just a sec
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| 07:15 | <Jane_ux> lol
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| 07:16 | <InfraRed`> System > administration > sessions
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| 07:16 | and tell it to execute that script.
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| 07:16 | that should run when users log in.
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| 07:19 | <Jane_ux> if I place the script in the init.d folder of the LTSP image it will be executed when the terminal restarts?
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| 07:20 | infrared: in sessions the /home folder is already mounted, so dont know if its possible
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| 07:22 | <InfraRed`> when it restarts physically i guess.
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| 07:23 | Jane_ux, u could just delete the files in it
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| 07:24 | u could probably unmount it and remount it i guess.
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| 07:24 | dont know enough about this stuff, just brainstorming
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| 08:00 | <Jane_ux> hiiii
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| 08:00 | <Jane_ux> how can i execute a script when the client-terminal logout???
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| 08:06 | <Jane_ux> hiiii
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| 08:07 | which is the log-out process in LTSP? Where can I place an script to be executed when logout?
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| 08:18 | hiiiiiiiiiiii
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| 08:18 | any1 there??
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| 08:18 | Where can I place a script to be executed in logout time in edubuntu(LDM)?
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| 08:21 | <InfraRed`> im here
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| 08:22 | but i never even tried LTSP, still looking into it
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| 08:22 | the whole FAT client is a bit unclear to me
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| 08:22 | i understand thin clients and all
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| 08:22 | but not sure about what this fat stuff is
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| 08:22 | Jane_ux, did u try putting it into the sessions? perhaps it it will execute
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| 08:23 | <Jane_ux> heyyy infra I think i was clear in my question
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| 08:23 | do u know Where can I place a script to be executed in logout time in edubuntu(LDM)?
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| 08:24 | if you dont know it just say so, nothing more :)
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| 08:24 | <InfraRed`> i did mention i dont know
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| 08:24 | <Jane_ux> anyway thanks
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| 08:24 | <InfraRed`> im just trying to see if there are other options for what u want done
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| 08:25 | if your main objective is to restore the home dir because u dont want people dumping files into it...
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| 08:25 | <Jane_ux> but you repeated 3 times d session thing
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| 08:25 | <InfraRed`> that can be done in numerus ways i think, of which logout is the most complicated one i guess
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| 08:25 | yeah, sorry, dont mind me, im a noob.
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| 08:26 | <Jane_ux> :)
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| 08:27 | with 200 users mayb its not bad idea in logout, anyway i just wanna know it
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| 08:27 | Where can I place a script to be executed in logout time in edubuntu(LDM)? !!!!!
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| 08:31 | <rjune> Jane_ux: take a deep breath and quit flooding the channel.
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| 08:31 | Do you want the script to run as the user? or are you wanting to do administration type stuff?
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| 08:32 | aka root
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| 08:32 | <Jane_ux> as user would be enough, iguess
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| 08:33 | <rjune> ok, as the user, you need to look at the environment you're using.
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| 08:33 | <Jane_ux> i want restore the home folder, remove it and copy a default 1
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| 08:33 | <rjune> ah.
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| 08:34 | when I did that I made it part of the logon script.
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| 08:34 | <Jane_ux> ii think i ll do it with runlevels
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| 08:34 | which logon script???
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| 08:34 | <rjune> the very first thing I did upon login was wipe the home dir and copy in a new one.
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| 08:34 | KDM login script.
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| 08:34 | are you using ltsp 4 or 5
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| 08:35 | <Jane_ux> ltsp5 with ubuntu
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| 08:35 | ahhh ok
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| 08:35 | but i preffer in logout
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| 08:35 | i think i ll place it in rc5.d
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| 08:46 | <InfraRed`> told u logout was difficult ;D
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| 08:46 | rjune, while you are in the process of answering questions...
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| 08:47 | I have looked into local apps a bit
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| 08:47 | <rjune> ok.
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| 08:47 | <InfraRed`> whats the status with that? I read that its quite difficult at the moment
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| 08:47 | <rjune> Not sure with ltsp5 I've never used it
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| 08:47 | <InfraRed`> is there any tools for this?
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| 08:48 | i mean,... hows it look on other versions?
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| 08:48 | <InfraRed`> I have some pcs id like to put into a terminal server network for purpuses of administration
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| 08:49 | But since theres a lot of computers and it would slow the server
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| 08:49 | it would serve me well if applications would be installed on the server but ran locally
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| 08:49 | <rjune> LTSP 4 was a pain
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| 08:50 | I thought ltsp 5 would make it easier as you're using a distro, so install the ldap tools, configure it and go
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| 08:50 | <InfraRed`> i see
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| 08:50 | So basically local apps are stored on the server and then loaded into the memory of the clients that request it and ran from there with their resources?
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| 08:53 | <rjune> with local apps yeah kinda
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| 08:53 | more like the terminals mount the fileserver and run programs off of that
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| 08:53 | <InfraRed`> i see
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| 08:54 | Is there a way to have this with "fat" clients
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| 08:54 | I mean the computers id be converting to clients are laptops and it would be nice if they arent dead weight outside the office
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| 08:55 | So i would like them to be independent outside the office, but act as terminal clients in the office
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| 08:55 | possible?
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| 08:56 | whats the difference between fat clients and thin clients with local apps?
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| 09:01 | <rjune> effectively using local apps turns the thin client to a fat client
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| 09:02 | for your laptops, you might be better served using NX or vnc
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| 09:02 | <InfraRed`> nx?
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| 09:05 | googled it up, never mind
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| 09:05 | hm...
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| 09:06 | one more question
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| 09:06 | how does linux run multiple instances of the same program?
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| 09:07 | i mean memory wise
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| 09:07 | if i have 3 users that all run say openoffice and firefox
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| 09:07 | their content of course, being different will need its own space.. but what about the programs GUI etc
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| 09:10 | <Jane_ux> ltsp use the normal runlevels, rc0.d rc1.d, etc?????
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| 09:10 | <InfraRed`> what i mean is... if program A takes 100mb program B 100mb and program C 100 mb of memory
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| 09:11 | does running 3 instances of program A consume the same amount of resources as running A B and C ?
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| 09:12 | <Jane_ux> are they logged in as the same user??
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| 09:12 | <InfraRed`> no, different user
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| 09:13 | <Jane_ux> so they are not instance, i guess
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| 09:13 | so they run 3 different programs, A,B and C
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| 09:14 | <InfraRed`> was thinking if it would be possible to have some user abstraction that would route users like a switch
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| 09:15 | so basically it would be 1 username that other usernames would work through so that instances would be created ... but then again, a user ends the program and everthying goes bye bye... never mind
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| 09:16 | hell, i think ssh -X is the closest to what id want...
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| 09:29 | <warren> anybody here for the k12linux meeting?
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| 09:38 | <warren> I just want to sleep, but I'll see if anybody has any questions.
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| 09:38 | I've been working on a few different things but nothing is in shape for checkin yet.
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| 09:39 | keyboard layout, ability to set a session default
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| 09:42 | <petre> why the urge to sleep now? Were you up all night?
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| 09:44 | <warren> chronic pain
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| 09:44 | I had a good 8 hours of sleep
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| 09:45 | anyway, the upcoming LTSP hackfest should theoretically bring a flood of new stuff
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| 09:45 | <petre> sorry to hear about the pain.
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| 09:46 | <warren> If not code, at least agreement on exactly what we want
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| 09:46 | <petre> hackfest in OR?
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| 09:46 | <warren> yes
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| 09:46 | <petre> what ideas are floating around?
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| 09:46 | local apps, I suppose
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| 09:48 | <warren> local apps is the big one
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| 09:50 | <Jane_ux> how can I execute a script in LTSP when the client/thin user log in??
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| 09:51 | <petre> put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local?
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| 09:51 | <warren> Jane_ux: script on the server as the user, or as the client?
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| 09:55 | <Jane_ux> as the client
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| 09:55 | <rjune> warren: you do anything with xen?
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| 09:56 | <Jane_ux> i am trying in the rc0.d and rc2.d
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| 09:56 | but it doesnt seems to work
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| 09:56 | <warren> Jane_ux: that part works completely differently on fedora so I can't help you
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| 09:56 | rjune: sort of
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| 09:56 | <Jane_ux> ok warren
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| 09:56 | thanks anyway
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| 09:56 | <rjune> warren: I have vm disk image with two partitions on it. I need to mount one of the partitions.
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| 09:57 | <warren> i've done that once, there is a command to do it...
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| 09:58 | I always forget what that command is
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| 09:58 | <rjune> if the image had no partitions, that's easy, mount -oloop
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| 09:59 | <laga> i think you can tell it the offset of the partition
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| 10:00 | <warren> there is a command that actually reads the partition format inside the image
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| 10:00 | and makes the partitions available as block devices
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| 10:01 | <rjune> http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2638/how-mount-specific-partition-xen-file-backed-virtual-disk
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| 10:04 | <cyberorg> rjune, nice :)
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| 10:06 | <Jane_ux> heyyyy
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| 10:06 | <warren> kpartx
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| 10:06 | <Jane_ux> do u know if ltsp run rc2.d in ubuntu????
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| 10:07 | <warren> rjune: does your distro have kpartx?
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| 10:07 | <Jane_ux> I placed an script there but but it doesnt execute??!! :(
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| 10:08 | <rjune> warren: dunno
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| 10:08 | what is kpartx?
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| 10:08 | this is on opensuse
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| 10:08 | <warren> kpartx uses devicemapper to read a file image and make partitions in the image available as block devices
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| 10:08 | in /dev
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| 10:13 | <rjune> ah, nifty
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| 10:13 | I'll have to look
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| 10:14 | warren: do you happen to know some about mysql?
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| 10:14 | <warren> not really
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| 10:38 | <InfraRed`> Jane_ux> how can I execute a script in LTSP when the client/thin user log in?? < told u so :D
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| 10:39 | <petre> I need to drop off; the X fonts on my F9 got trashed somehow, must switch machines
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| 10:46 | <Jane_ux> ok, i ll b more precise
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| 10:46 | i want to restore the home folder of the user when he login
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| 10:47 | by removing and then copy the default home folder
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| 10:47 | using a simple script that it is working
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| 10:47 | <InfraRed`> k
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| 10:48 | <Jane_ux> if I add the script into sessions, the srcript run ok, but gnome av some errors
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| 10:48 | <InfraRed`> id suggest what i already suggested... system preferences sessions
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| 10:48 | put the script u have there
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| 10:48 | <Jane_ux> because have deleted its home folder
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| 10:48 | <InfraRed`> it should execute when a user logs into the desktop
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| 10:48 | <Jane_ux> :)
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| 10:48 | yes it does
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| 10:48 | but
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| 10:48 | <InfraRed`> dont delete the home folder
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| 10:49 | leave the home folder as it is, just delete whatever is inside it
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| 10:49 | except for gnome stuff of course
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| 10:49 | <Jane_ux> but i need to delete everything
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| 10:49 | in case the user chane gnome configuration files
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| 10:49 | <InfraRed`> ah
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| 10:50 | <Jane_ux> how to tell gnome to use this new home folder as home????
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| 10:50 | <InfraRed`> i think it needs to be restarted.
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| 10:50 | or...
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| 10:50 | perhaps u should copy over it
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| 10:50 | thoguh i doubt it
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| 10:50 | i think there may be a different solution
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| 10:51 | <Jane_ux> i av been thinkin hard, and i think the best way is that 1
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| 10:51 | but maybe i could execute the script before gnome is execute??
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| 10:51 | how can i do that??
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| 10:52 | <petre> warren: any idea what would cause all fonts under X on the server to get trashed?
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| 10:52 | <InfraRed`> Jane_ux, that would have to do with GDM then ..
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| 10:52 | <warren> petre: no idea
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| 10:52 | <Jane_ux> I tryed also by init.d with rc0.d, rc2.d, etc but it doesnt work
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| 10:52 | <petre> system-config-display will run, but all the text that normally appears is either not there or just some flat lines
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| 10:52 | <InfraRed`> i have a better idea Jane_ux
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| 10:53 | <Jane_ux> ok tell me
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| 10:53 | <InfraRed`> Did u look at system > administration > authorizations
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| 10:53 | <petre> anything graphical is unreadable
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| 10:54 | <cyberorg> Jane_ux, http://opseast.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/sledgnome-desktop-lockdown/
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| 10:54 | <Jane_ux> ooopsss
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| 10:54 | yes i know
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| 10:54 | but i dont want lock down, i want to replace the /home folder as i said
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| 10:55 | <InfraRed`> generally if u have the files backed up, just copying them to the home directory would work
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| 10:56 | i think your problem is in deleting the home directory while gnome is running
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| 10:56 | <Jane_ux> yes that is the problem
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| 10:56 | any solution?
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| 10:56 | <cyberorg> Jane_ux, run userdel and useradd as a cron to run every night
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| 10:57 | put the stuff you want in new users home can be put in /etc/skel
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| 10:57 | <Jane_ux> sorry cyberdog, not that way pls, i told u already the problem, do u know the solution!!
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| 10:58 | <InfraRed`> Jane_ux, what u want to do is virtually contradictory
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| 10:58 | <Jane_ux> lol
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| 10:58 | <InfraRed`> think about it
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| 10:59 | u want to delete where a user holds all the files that define how his desktop should behave
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| 10:59 | while he is logged into it
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| 11:00 | <Jane_ux> ok i asked how to execute a script in log in before gnome is executed???!!
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| 11:00 | <InfraRed`> im not sure if users MUST have a home directory or not.... but im inclinde towards the fact that they do need one
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| 11:00 | <Jane_ux> you confuse me
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| 11:00 | <InfraRed`> gnome is exectued with gdm
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| 11:00 | but when u log into the user
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| 11:00 | <Jane_ux> if u dont know the answer to a question, say so or dont replay pls
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| 11:00 | <InfraRed`> when u log in with the user, doesnt that create some files that the session is logged in in his home directory
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| 11:01 | u need to delete it before he logs in actually
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| 11:01 | well apparently noone else is helping u
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| 11:01 | <Jane_ux> infrared: i dont know if u av any idea about that, or u just telling random things
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| 11:02 | from the beggining I said
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| 11:02 | <Jane_ux> i cant do it with init.d
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| 11:02 | <InfraRed`> Jane_ux, im just trying to help as much as i can.
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| 11:03 | <InfraRed`> Im sure theres a way to provide the functionality u want... either through locking the desktop or through some other way that doesnt involve deleting files that are in use.
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| 11:03 | <Jane_ux> Anyone knows if LTSP in ubuntu execute init.d as normal, rc0.d, rc2.d, etc???
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| 11:03 | you dont help me, u confuse me :)
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| 11:04 | u just answer my questions with the same quenstion
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| 11:04 | <InfraRed`> my suggestion is that you lock the desktop
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| 11:04 | as for deleting a home directory
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| 11:05 | i cant help you with it since it escapes my logic how it would be done in some simple automated way without difficulties for the end user.
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| 11:06 | <Jane_ux> ok yes infrared, just say so from the beginning please, u dont know it
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| 11:06 | we have been wasting almost half an hour
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| 11:06 | <InfraRed`> I did mention that, didnt i?
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| 11:06 | (i think i even explained it)
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| 11:06 | <Jane_ux> shut up
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| 11:06 | go away
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| 11:07 | :(
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| 11:07 | <InfraRed`> Im sure theres someone who knows though, good luck finding them
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| 11:09 | <InfraRed`> (eventhough my solution so far was the closest u got to what u want, pff)
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| 11:13 | <Jane_ux> why a script located in rc2.d is not executed when the thin client starts?? im using Ubuntu and LTSP
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| 11:15 | <InfraRed`> wild guess would be permissions.
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| 11:18 | I think i have a solution for u
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| 11:18 | usermod /d
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| 11:18 | usermod -d
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| 11:19 | u should be able to login and on login run that script through system preferences sessions
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| 11:19 | except, before u try and delete and copy
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| 11:19 | <Jane_ux> go away
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| 11:19 | <InfraRed`> change user directory to some new directory
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| 11:19 | then delete the old /home/user
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| 11:19 | copy what u need to copy
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| 11:20 | then do usermod -d <restored directory>
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| 11:25 | <Jane_ux> i tryed that and it doesnt work neither
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| 11:25 | but good point :) thanks
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| 11:32 | LTSP use the same start process as Ubuntu with rc0.d, rc1.d, etc?????
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| 11:37 | <InfraRed`> probablz
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| 11:40 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: do you mean the server or the thin-client? the server uses the same process. the thin-client uses the same process, although some specific init scripts are disabled by default.
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| 11:44 | <Jane_ux> then, why the client doesnt execute my script in rc0.d or rc2.d??
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| 11:45 | the script run ok, permisions ok, image updated ok
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| 11:48 | <InfraRed`> client!=
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| 11:48 | client just recieves data from the server, it doesnt do anything id imagine
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| 11:49 | it just boots the OS from the server
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| 11:49 | isnt that /the/ essence of terminal computing?
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| 11:49 | <Jane_ux> and it execute init.d!!!!
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| 11:49 | http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-theory.html
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| 11:50 | <InfraRed`> lets see
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| 11:51 | <Jane_ux> point number 12
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| 11:51 | <Nubae> Jane_ux: still same problem?
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| 11:51 | <Jane_ux> i guess, yes
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| 11:51 | The init program will read the /etc/event.d directory and begin setting up the thin client environment. From there, upstart will begin reading the startup commands in /etc/rcS.d.
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| 11:52 | <InfraRed`> u need to edit the init.d stuff in the image that it loads as far as i understand it
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| 11:53 | and even then, u will have to hard reboot the pc to have it executed.... if it will even allow this remote delition
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| 11:55 | erm... no sorrz, my bad
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| 11:55 | seems like it needs to be in the servers init.d...
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| 11:56 | no idea what and where u are doing something and why it doesnt work, maybe someone else can help, im out of ideas
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| 12:03 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: what is your script attempting to do?
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| 12:03 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: probably even better: what is the goal you are trying to accomplish?
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| 12:08 | <Jane_ux> vagrantc: i want to restore the home folder when the user logoin
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| 12:08 | or logout, i thinks is even easier..
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| 12:09 | how can i execute a script when the client-terminal logout??
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> could do it with an ldm rc.d hook
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| 12:09 | <Jane_ux> how can i do that??
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| 12:09 | in gdm I know, but in ldm not idea
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| 12:10 | vagrantc: u mean by placing the script in rc6.d???
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| 12:11 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/SNN-some-script on the client
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| 12:11 | <Nuba1> problem is he's trying to restore a /home folder when the user is logging in
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| 12:12 | <Jane_ux> ok vagrant i ll try that thanks
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| 12:12 | <Nuba1> home is already mounted by then
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| 12:12 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: look at /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/S10-delayed-mounter
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| 12:13 | Jane_ux: and then i'd have a server-side script
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| 12:13 | <Jane_ux> ok
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| 12:14 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: so /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/SNN-some-script: ssh -S ${LDM_SOCKET} server "/usr/local/bin/some-reset-homdir-script"
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| 12:14 | where /usr/local/bin/some-reset-homedir-script does the work.
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| 12:14 | <Jane_ux> okok
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| 12:16 | the script is simple, just restore the user home folder, #rm -fR /home/user #tar xvfz /home/user.tar.gz
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| 12:16 | so i place it in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/ isnt it???
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| 12:17 | and the line ssh -S ${LDM_SOCKET} server "/usr/local/bin/some-reset-homdir-script"
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| 12:17 | where i have to add it??
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| 12:22 | vagrantc: thanks very much :), this is in login time, do you know how to do it in logout????
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| 12:31 | <Jane_ux> ok, almost solved, the login script works fine
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| 12:31 | but how to execute in logout time in ldm??
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| 12:49 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: logout doesn't really work.
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| 12:49 | Jane_ux: probably better at login anyways.
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| 12:53 | <Jane_ux> ok
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| 12:56 | <Nuba1> Jane_ux: u won't be the last person to ask about that... would be nice in a wiki some place... your steps to do that...
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| 12:57 | <Jane_ux> vagrantc: why in logout doesnt work???
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| 13:02 | <vagrantc> Jane_ux: because the ssh tunnel is destroyed when you log out
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| 13:03 | <Jane_ux> but just before the ssh tunnel is destroyed???
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| 13:03 | is there anyway to run an excript in logout with ldm?
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| 13:06 | <Jane_ux> which is the LDM command to logout from the terminal????
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| 13:19 | <Nuba1> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/02/14/%23edubuntu.txt - thats a past irc conversation about doing exactly that
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| 13:21 | but with no solution so ignore that
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| 15:05 | <Jane_ux> If I use (copy) the same home folder for all the users, is gonna be any conflict or problem????
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| 15:36 | <epoxy|w3rk> is there a way to mask the init process? like throw up a status bar or atleast a black screen?
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| 15:49 | <|Ryan52> epoxy|w3rk: what distro are you using?
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| 15:53 | <vagrantc_> Jane_ux: if you take a running user's home directory and copy it to another's, yes there will likely be problems.
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| 15:55 | <epoxy|w3rk> |Ryan52, debian
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| 15:55 | etch
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| 15:57 | <vagrantc_> epoxy|w3rk: install upsplash-theme-debian upsplash, add "quiet splash" to the boot arguments
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| 15:58 | or just add quiet to the boot arguments
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| 15:58 | <epoxy|w3rk> k
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| 15:58 | <vagrantc_> depends on how fancy you want it
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| 15:59 | <|Ryan52> vagrantc_: but, that won't make the already generated initramfs have usplash, right?
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| 15:59 | <vagrantc_> |Ryan52: ah, correct ...
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| 16:00 | epoxy|w3rk: you'll have to run ltsp-update-kernels after installing that stuff ... and you'll need to add a configuration file so your somewhere to set BOOTPROMPT_OPTS
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