IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 April 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:46 | <crying> Hello im a frustrated linux new user
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| 02:47 | i was about to throw away a very old computer
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| 02:48 | but then, i thought, maybe i can make this machine work put games on it and give it to a poor kid
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| 02:49 | sorry, i apologize
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| 09:26 | <Willtech> Good evening all,
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| 09:29 | Am looking for a practical way to setup LTSP with Fedora, the linked Fedora/K12linux project looks dead - I can only find the actual page in Google cache and it looks like it is last modified in 2008.
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| 10:10 | <alkisg> Willtech: there are no recent public ltsp packages for fedora
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| 10:10 | bcg is maintaining ltsp for redhat, but I don't think he put them anywhere public yet
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| 10:10 | If you can use a deb-based distro like Debian or Ubuntu, it would be a lot easier
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| 10:15 | <Willtech> alkisg: Hmm. I saw previously that there was a ltsp-client package available but no ltsp-server. In Fedora 27 there is three packages availabl: ltspfs, ltspfsd, vnc-ltsp-config - each of which are addons.
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| 10:16 | I can build from source if there are documents covering dependencies/make/install/configure/use?
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> Unfortunately `make install` isn't as good as it should
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| 10:17 | So most distro maintainers had their own installation scripts
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| 10:17 | So you'd mostly need to be able to create your own packages, unless bcg can share his
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| 10:26 | <Willtech> Does the autogen.sh in the project root work? It call another that executes `aclocal && autoconf && automake -a -c`?
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| 10:26 | <alkisg> As I said, it's not as good as it should
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| 10:26 | <Willtech> Hmm
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| 10:26 | <alkisg> It will do a few of the necessary things, and then you'll need to copy the results around in your file system
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| 10:26 | Because that part is handled by the packaging
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| 10:33 | <Willtech> Yes, but what where? The project could certainly do to be better documented. I realise that these things take time that is often not available.
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| 10:37 | <alkisg> Willtech: this isn't a matter of documentation. It's a matter of someone willling to pick up redhat packaging maintenance
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| 10:38 | For a packager, discovering what goes where, isn't hard
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| 10:38 | It's not a matter of documenting things for users, users shouldn't need to know packaging details
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| 10:59 | <Willtech> For a packager, yes.
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| 11:16 | For the server administrator (user) the documentation is helpful for when there is no package available.
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| 11:17 | <alkisg> It's like saying, "ltsp doesn't run in fedora, please document how to make it run"
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| 11:17 | It's easier to find someone to fix the code, than to document how to fix the code
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| 11:19 | Or in this case, it would be much easier to find a fedora packager than to find someone knowing and willing to write full documentation for fedora packagers
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| 11:19 | (or for fedora sysadmins)
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| 11:22 | <Willtech> Well, it is a good project. I hope there is much success in deploying for Fedora. Look forward to seeing it in the default repos. Red Hat is a good first step for that @bcg
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| 11:22 | * alkisg hopes bcg will go public as well; it's been years now :D | |
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| 13:43 | <bcg> Willtech: I can share .spec files, or even .rpm. They should mostly just work for Fedora too.
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| 13:43 | all but .spec files are already available at lp
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| 13:45 | I would much rather maintain those .spec's within ltsp trees (one per three), but last time that idea was rejected.
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| 13:45 | one per tree...
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| 13:45 | tree? repo. whatever.
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> bcg: personally I believe that the official ltsp maintainer of any distro should be allowed to commit distro related code and why not packaging to ltsp-upstream
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| 17:18 | What would it take for your packages to be published in redhat?
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| 22:46 | <Chrisu_> hy there. Someone active at this time?
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