IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 July 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:07 | <map7> vagrantc, What are the major changes are there to ltsp 5.2.3? or where can I find that information?
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| 01:11 | <vagrantc> pretty minor changes, really
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| 01:11 | https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk
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| 01:22 | <dobber> how do i submit changes ?
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| 01:26 | <vagrantc> could file bugs through launchpad
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| 01:26 | and attach patches, or give a URL to a bzr branch to pull from
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| 01:27 | <dobber> well i made a little change in ltsp-update-image and added an option to invoke ltsp-update-kernels
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| 01:27 | <vagrantc> or file bugs with your preferred linux distribution, if they include ltsp...
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| 01:30 | <dobber> can i just email a diff to ltsp-developers mail list ?
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| 01:31 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 01:32 | <dobber> ok i'll rework it a bit
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| 01:34 | <vagrantc> night y'all
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| 02:32 | <dobber> any developer around here ?
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| 03:30 | <zeitsofa> today i try it again. i like to run 2 monitors on a thinclient. how i can realize it?
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| 03:47 | <rickogden> hi all, is it possible to put the lts.conf file in another location?
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| 03:59 | <zeitsofa> rickogden: i'm not really knwo bu i think there is no way ti have the tsl.conf in the tftpd path
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| 04:01 | <rickogden> I actually want the lts out of the tftp path, and put it somewhere else (say a webserver)
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| 04:02 | plus I'm not even sure if my current set up is picking it up
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| 04:21 | <nosedrum> hi everybody !
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| 04:21 | i have some question about ltsp pratices
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| 04:22 | i have to deploy a new package on 80 ltsp images
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| 04:22 | so it's easy by hand with "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 "
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| 04:22 | and apt-get instlal mypackage
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| 04:22 | and ltsp-update-image -a i386
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| 04:23 | but i want to script the operations for the 80 serer via ssh
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| 04:23 | but via ssh when i "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 04:24 | then i can send my éptg-get" comand in the chroot environement via ssh
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| 04:24 | I'm clear ?
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| 04:26 | <dobber> rickogden, why don't you sym link it ?
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| 04:26 | <rickogden> dobber: because it's multiple servers... plus I'd quite like to script the generation of it (if possible)
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| 04:27 | I'm already using a horribly non-standard boot setup
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| 04:27 | <dobber> everyone is nonstandard :)
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| 04:28 | well, you generate the lts.conf via ltsp-update-image right ?
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| 04:28 | <rickogden> I'm using gpxe + php to generate a dynamic boot script
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| 04:28 | <dobber> aha
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| 04:29 | <nosedrum> anybody have a idea to massive install a package in /opt/ltsp/i386 via ssh ?
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| 04:29 | <rickogden> yeah, pretty long way round, but the only way I've managed to get it to work in this environment
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| 04:30 | <dobber> nosedrum, you want to do this: ssh root@fatserver "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ ls /"
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| 04:30 | right ?
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| 04:30 | <rickogden> nosedrum: I'm not sure, but if you chroot can you do apt-get or dpkg?
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| 04:31 | <nosedrum> no because ssh didn't see the chroot
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| 04:31 | for example ssh root@ltsp_serv "chrptt /opt/ltsp/i386 && apt-get install mypackage" didn't work
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| 04:31 | <dobber> ssh root@fatserver "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get -y install sl"
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| 04:31 | Reading package lists...
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| 04:31 | it's working
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| 04:31 | nosedrum, no no no
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| 04:32 | <nosedrum> without "&&" ?
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| 04:32 | <dobber> dont &&
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| 04:32 | && means "wait for the previous command to return true and continue with the next command"
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| 04:32 | <nosedrum> ok my bad i didn't test without execution verification "&&"
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| 04:33 | and my chroot comand never return turue ?
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| 04:33 | true*
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| 04:33 | <dobber> it's exit status
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| 04:33 | <nosedrum> ok thx a lot
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| 04:33 | i have one more question
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| 04:34 | did you have expirience with java applet lag on firefox under ltsp ?
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| 04:34 | the respond time is 10x longer from ltsp than a local firefox execution
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| 04:34 | <rickogden> nosedrum: I've had experience with java and firefox lag even without LTSP :P
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| 04:35 | <nosedrum> :D
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| 04:35 | <rickogden> have you considered fatclients (assuming the client is capable)?
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| 04:36 | <nosedrum> i resolv the issue by a local execution of ff+sun-java6-plugin
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| 04:36 | by my thinclient is loaded...
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| 04:36 | <nosedrum> i really want to keep my ff execution on ltsp server
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| 04:37 | but it's really long , java applets make 20-30 sec to load...
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| 04:37 | <nosedrum> and this lag appear only with java applets websites
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| 04:38 | afk 10 min (boss time...)
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| 04:55 | <braga> hello
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| 05:21 | <braga> I have a problem with ltsp, when I boot a workstation they stopped at line: ip-config: eth0 hardware address ::::: mtu 1500 dhcp, ip-config: no response after 180 secs - giving up, /init: .: line 174: can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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| 05:22 | anyone help me
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| 05:50 | <zeitsofa> i try to run 2 screens on a thinclient. the client boots but X is starting the screens are black on monitor go into powersave mode. any ideas to fix this issue? lts.conf and xorg.conf (thats the config from thinclient with nativ installed OS) http://nopaste.info/24c3c4ba7c.html
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| 06:01 | <rickogden> zeitsofa: are you running LTSP 5?
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| 09:15 | <Leolo_3> hello everybody
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| 09:16 | I would very very much like to know how to set up a compile env for ltsp 4.2.
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| 09:16 | <Leolo_3> I need to use the rtl8168B NIC. aka r8168 driver
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| 09:17 | <johnny> ltsp4 is mostly dead.. few people know how to mess with it anymore
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| 09:17 | <Leolo_3> someone must have at some point. and documented the compile env
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| 09:17 | <johnny> you might get lucky.. but probably not
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| 09:17 | try a search engine
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| 09:17 | it certainly isn't the people most active in this channel
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| 09:18 | <Leolo_3> :-/
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| 09:18 | <johnny> why would you want ltsp4? how old are your machines?
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| 09:19 | <Leolo_3> i want ltsp4 because that's what's installed.
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| 09:19 | <johnny> installed on what?
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| 09:19 | <Leolo_3> centos 4 and 5
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| 09:20 | <johnny> then you would just find instructions for recompiling a kernel
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| 09:20 | <Leolo_3> ....?
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| 09:20 | <johnny> and copying that kernel to the right place
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| 09:21 | just look up how to add that driver to centos machines and then copy that kernel into the ltsp chroot kernel director
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| 09:21 | <Leolo_3> that works in ltsp-4?
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| 09:21 | <johnny> hmm?
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| 09:21 | i don't see why it wouldnt..
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| 09:22 | <Leolo_3> ltsp's kernel is 2.6.20(+patches), CentOS 5's is 2.6.18(+patches)
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| 09:22 | <johnny> but really.. you'll be saddling your users with really old software :(
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| 09:23 | try the mailing list
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| 09:23 | !ltsp-discuss
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| 09:23 | <ltspbot`> johnny: "ltsp-discuss" :: at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
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| 09:23 | <johnny> no success guaranteed tho.. i have no idea when that driver was added
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| 09:23 | <Leolo_3> old software that's worked for years
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| 09:23 | the driver isn't "added" it comes from the realtek website
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| 09:24 | <johnny> hmm.. i would never trust drivers that aren't in the kernel
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| 09:24 | they always do it wrong :)
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| 09:24 | do they provide drivers for your kernel version?
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| 09:24 | <Leolo_3> they provide source code
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| 09:25 | <johnny> so?
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| 09:25 | what kerne version does it apply to?
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| 09:25 | <Leolo_3> 2.4.20 and up, 2.6.x (according to README)
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| 09:25 | <johnny> then i would suggest looking up generic tutorials then
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| 09:25 | it probably wont' be ltsp specific
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| 09:26 | or once again.. posting to the mailing list
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| 09:26 | <Leolo_3> if it was just installing a module, i'd have no dificulty
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| 09:26 | the LTSP-specific stuff is headers + compiler so the .ko is compatible with the kernel
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| 09:26 | <johnny> i bet the generic instructions work as long as you go into the chroot
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| 09:27 | and install the kernel-devel package
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| 09:27 | give it a shot
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| 09:27 | back up your chroot
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| 09:27 | <Leolo_3> you mean chroot /opt/ltsp-4.2 ?
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| 09:27 | <johnny> yes
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| 09:28 | it's a full distro in there, so i don't see why you couldn't
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| 09:28 | <Leolo_3> there's no gcc, for one
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| 09:28 | kinda basic, that
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| 09:29 | <johnny> did you try installing one?
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| 09:29 | if that doesn't work, then you should definitely contact the list if a google search turns up empty
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| 09:30 | i just searched, and stuff comes up right away
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| 09:30 | so.. go to it
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| 09:32 | <Leolo_3> stuff I see is for ltsp 5
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| 09:34 | <johnny> i just did
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| 09:34 | "ltsp 4.2" compile kernel modules
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| 09:40 | <cliebow> Leolo_3, you need to set up the lbe-linux build environment..jammcq and sbalneav are the masters on this..ive done it..
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| 09:41 | ill try to get you the old links..say what they will 4.2 still rocking for me
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| 09:42 | <johnny> aha.. cliebow you're here :)
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| 09:42 | <Leolo_3> yay!
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| 09:42 | <johnny> this is one of those people Leolo_3
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| 09:42 | <Leolo_3> everything I'm reading references parts of the wiki that have been deleted
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| 09:43 | <johnny> as you can see.. he only referenced 2 other people :)
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| 09:43 | <Leolo_3> :-)
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| 09:43 | how old is ltsp-4.2? I can't believe that all the corp users jumped to ltsp-5 by now
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| 09:44 | <cliebow> it is still around if i can figger out how to get ot it
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| 09:44 | <johnny> it's not that they have jumped, they just haven't upgraded
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| 09:44 | and things work
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| 09:44 | ltsp 4.2? uhmm.. not quite sure... maybe 4 or 5 years? 6?
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| 09:45 | cliebow, ?
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| 09:47 | Leolo_3, 4 years
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| 09:48 | <cliebow> must be 5 years now..i see the new wiki has nothing..i have probably something on paper
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| 09:50 | <johnny> article on linux.com
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| 09:50 | Linux Terminal Server Project releases 4.2
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| 09:50 | By Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier on April 10, 2006
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| 09:50 | <cliebow> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.ltsp.org:/usr/local/cvsroot checkout
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| 09:51 | <johnny> ooh.. cvs :)
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| 09:51 | <cliebow> wonder if that still works
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| 09:51 | <johnny> hah :)
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| 09:51 | <Leolo_3> cvs [checkout aborted]: must specify at least one module or directory
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| 09:52 | <cliebow> Gadi would know..
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| 09:53 | * Leolo_3 bets cvs.ltsp.org has been reorganised | |
| 09:54 | <Leolo_3> Unknown host cvs.ltsp.org.
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| 09:54 | or deleted :-(
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| 09:54 | ok, imma talk to a few folks. maybe we move to ltsp 5
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| 09:54 | <cliebow> Le:Lyou have "challenged" clients?
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| 09:54 | like 32 meg?
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| 09:55 | Leolo_3, id suggest asking jammcq..jam at ltsp.org
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| 09:55 | <Leolo_3> no, I don't think anything is taht old.
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| 09:56 | I want to install one driver, not do the work of learning to use, setting up, etc etc from 4.2 to 5
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| 09:56 | <cliebow> ask jammcq
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| 09:56 | lbe is not trivial
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| 09:57 | id bet most of the links build_all uses are broken too
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| 09:57 | <Leolo_3> how not trivial? i've upgraded libc in a running install in the past
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| 09:57 | <johnny> Leolo_3, ltsp wiki got hax0red
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| 09:57 | tat's why it was migrated
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| 09:57 | <Leolo_3> and no one had a backup?
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| 09:57 | hmmm... maybe the wayback machine
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| 09:58 | <cliebow> jammcq
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| 09:58 | or Scottie
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| 09:58 | <johnny> cliebow, then why didn't he restore the contents fully
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| 09:58 | if scott had the backup.. i'm sure he would have restored it
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| 09:58 | <cliebow> time i suppose
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| 09:58 | <johnny> he restored some of it..
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| 09:58 | perhaps just a tarball of the wiki contents
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| 10:00 | <cliebow> my laptop harddrive "might" have a copy the lappie itself long ago met its maker
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| 10:09 | <Leolo_3> http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/ltsp/www.ltsp.org/cvs.html :-/
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| 10:31 | <cliebow> Leolo_3, hmm wonders where My -s went
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| 15:49 | <Leolo_3> yay! GOT IT TO WORK!
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| 15:50 | took a little hacking and some patience, though
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| 18:50 | <jammcq> hey all
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| 18:50 | cliebow: ping
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| 18:54 | <highvoltage> hi uncle jim
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| 18:54 | <jammcq> hey Jonathon
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| 18:54 | I just created the wiki page for LTSP-BTS-2010
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| 18:54 | <highvoltage> http://jonathancarter.org/how-to-spell-jonathan/
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| 18:55 | oh cool!
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| 18:55 | <jammcq> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_ByTheSea2010
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| 18:55 | hahah
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| 18:55 | highvoltage: I've read that before
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| 18:55 | <highvoltage> heh :)
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| 18:55 | <jammcq> sorry I messed it up
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| 18:55 | <highvoltage> heh no problem at all, it's kind of meant as a joke anyway :)
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| 18:56 | <jammcq> highvoltage: have you found the beer yet? It's good in Montreal
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| 18:56 | although you aren't exactly in Montreal, right?
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| 18:56 | <highvoltage> I did indeed! first night when I was here!
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| 18:57 | nope, just a bit south-east- Sherbrooke
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| 18:57 | I'll be at BTS! stgraber and I were discussing it just about an hour ago
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| 18:57 | <jammcq> cool
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| 18:58 | <highvoltage> I'm not going to debconf anymore (way too much happening right now) so that will be my first time ever in the US
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| 18:58 | (I hope they don't capture me and send me to torture camps)
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| 18:59 | <jammcq> highvoltage: no worries, that was the past administration that was doing that
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| 19:00 | <highvoltage> oh cool. I came across a few people from europe that didn't want to go to debconf for reasons like that
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| 19:00 | I also thought that all of that was over... admittingly I'm not that good at following all the details :)
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| 19:00 | <jammcq> heh, we throw a couple people into a camp in Guantanimo, and pretty soon, we've got a bad reputation
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| 19:01 | <highvoltage> you've probably met Petter from debian-edu?
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| 19:02 | <jammcq> the debian-edu guy?
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| 19:02 | heh, yeah
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| 19:02 | met him in Norway a few years ago
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| 19:02 | <highvoltage> he seriously doensn't want to go to the US because of that. I just figure that if you're an innocent tourist the chances of that happening is probably quite slim
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| 19:02 | <jammcq> maybe he's got something to hide
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| 19:02 | <highvoltage> who knows
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| 19:03 | anyway, I'll be happy to be there, can't wait :)
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| 19:03 | I'm not a 1337 ltsp developer yet, but I am working on some nice things to get ltsp integrated with ubuntu's gui installer
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| 19:04 | <jammcq> bts is VERY low key
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| 19:04 | <highvoltage> in the last release we can already install ltsp from the livecd, now we're just going to push it up a notch for the next release
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| 19:04 | <jammcq> lots of socializing, and some hacking thrown in, to justify it
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| 19:04 | <highvoltage> great :)
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| 19:05 | <johnny> lobster also
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| 19:05 | <highvoltage> I was thinking of work the whole weekend... and then one of the first items in my feed reader on Monday morning was this: http://dilbert.com/fast/2010-07-05
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| 19:06 | it's strange but it did kind of make me feel relaxed
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| 19:06 | sorry I was leading somewhere with that but I forgot how it was relevant
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| 19:06 | <jammcq> that's pretty good
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| 19:08 | highvoltage: where is your home city? I'm updating the wiki
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| 19:08 | <highvoltage> jammcq: Cape Town
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| 19:08 | (although it's Sherbrooke now)
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| 19:09 | <jammcq> yeah, but I'll put cape town on the wiki. sounds more exotic :)
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| 19:09 | <highvoltage> :)
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| 19:15 | <highvoltage> jammcq: Marc Gariépy will also be coming
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| 19:15 | <jammcq> awesome
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| 19:16 | all set
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| 19:17 | we've got 7 signed up so far
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| 19:17 | <highvoltage> cool!
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| 19:17 | <jammcq> I think last year we ended up with 18
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| 19:23 | <giaco> hello
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| 19:24 | I've just discovered LTSP, I'm trying to find out if this is what I'm looking for, I've simple question for you
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| 19:25 | <highvoltage> fire away
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| 19:26 | <giaco> let's say I create an LTSP server on a powerful pc, than I want an old pentium 1 64MB to boot through that server and be able to launch firefox with a java applet, but I want that the "ram used" is on the server
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| 19:26 | is it possible? or firefox would be launched on the thin client?
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| 19:27 | <jammcq> giaco: that's a classic case of where LTSP is perfect for you
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| 19:27 | <giaco> what I want is tunneling graphics though X
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| 19:27 | oh, yeah!
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| 19:27 | :DD
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| 19:27 | <jammcq> what you've described is the default behaviour of LTSP
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| 19:27 | although... 64mb is rather slim
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| 19:27 | if you go with a lightweight desktop environment, like xfce, you can probably make it work
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| 19:28 | <giaco> but wait, you just said that the memory used is on the server
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| 19:28 | <jammcq> yes, but you still need a kernel and an Xserver
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| 19:28 | <giaco> my server could be a 80 cpu 32 gb ram
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| 19:28 | <jammcq> and those take some ram and cpu
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| 19:28 | <giaco> ok but kernel + X server is much less than 64 mb I think
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| 19:28 | <jammcq> the apps still run on the server, but you do need to get the graphical environment up and running
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| 19:29 | <giaco> I've seen kernel + X on < 4mb ram
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| 19:29 | <jammcq> it's more than just a kerenl and xserver
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| 19:29 | <giaco> oh ... mmm
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| 19:29 | I can't figure out the borderline from local stuff and server stuff
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| 19:29 | <jammcq> there's quite a bit of baggage that comes along with it. daemons for audio, local devices
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| 19:30 | <giaco> ok, local services, but the window manager should not be inside this baggage, I think
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| 19:30 | <jammcq> it's not as slim as we'd like
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| 19:30 | <giaco> stuff that runs inside X, I mean
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| 19:30 | <jammcq> right, the window manage runs on the server, but all of the images that get displayed (icons, fonts, backgrounds) are all cached by the Xserver, so they take ram on the client
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| 19:30 | <giaco> ah ok
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| 19:31 | <jammcq> but you can do swapping over the net, which helps alot in low-ram configs
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| 19:31 | <jammcq> we used to do 386's with 16mb of ram, but that was a long time ago. the software has grown a bit since then
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| 19:32 | <giaco> do you mean mounting the swap partition on a NFS or NBD drive?
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| 19:32 | <jammcq> using nbd
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| 19:32 | the 2.6 kernels don't support swap over nfs
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| 19:33 | <giaco> well I could use 2.4 .. I don't care much
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| 19:33 | well it's what I tell the server to be the thin client, overall
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| 19:33 | <jammcq> ltsp doesn't use the 2.4 kernels. haven't for abou 6 years
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| 19:36 | <giaco> jammcq, ok
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| 19:37 | jammcq, well, I will try and see what happens
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| 19:37 | <jammcq> sounds like a plan
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| 19:37 | <giaco> :)
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| 19:38 | don't know where I should start. I've seen that ubuntu provides a LTSP server mode installation, maybe there?
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| 19:38 | maybe ubuntu it's already big
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| 19:38 | <jammcq> the Ubuntu implementation of LTSP is awesome
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| 19:38 | <giaco> cool
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| 19:42 | jammcq, but wait, I've another important question
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| 19:42 | let's say we have the same server with the same thin client, the thin client is runninf firefox
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| 19:43 | <jammcq> ok
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| 19:43 | <giaco> let's say that the thin clients clicks on firefox "menu -> print", which pc is going to print? the server, or the client?
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| 19:43 | <jammcq> the server
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| 19:43 | the apps are running on the server
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| 19:43 | the client is nothing more than an x-terminal
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| 19:44 | <giaco> jammcq, ok
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| 19:44 | <korcan> unless you run localapps :)
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| 19:44 | <jammcq> but... you could plug a printer into the thin client, and configure CUPS on the server to print to it
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| 19:45 | <korcan> giaco: just get network printers, problems solved :)
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| 19:45 | <giaco> korcan, if I push a program into the thin client image, will that be present on the client right? It should be possible somehow to launch locally on the client
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| 19:45 | <jammcq> giaco: yes, we call that "Local Apps"
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| 19:45 | <giaco> korcan, I'm using LTSP to save money, so buying network printers is not a solution :(
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| 19:46 | <korcan> jammcq: is "Remote Apps" working yet? Alex told me it would be soon
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| 19:47 | that was a while ago
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| 19:47 | <jammcq> umm, dunno
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| 19:47 | <giaco> I need to know if both "remote apps" and "local apps" are working
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| 19:47 | I need them both
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| 19:47 | <map7> giaco remote apps are working
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| 19:47 | I have to use a wrapper script to use some programs though
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| 19:48 | <giaco> because I need a remote firefox on low memory pcs, but now I also think that I will need a local app to print to com1 or lpt1
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| 19:48 | <jammcq> remote apps is something a bit different. that's needed if you are running Firefox as a Local app, but then need to launch Acroreader or some other external app, and you want that to run back on the server
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| 19:48 | giaco: you don't need a local app for that printing. Ltsp includes the magic plumbing to make that work
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| 19:48 | ltsp will make a locally attached printer appear like a network printer
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| 19:49 | <korcan> map7: you have a doc you can point me to?
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| 19:49 | <giaco> jammcq, but 20 lines ago you told me that the server was printing
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| 19:50 | <map7> korcan, not really but I can help you
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| 19:50 | I only use remote_apps for opening files in my local apps (ie: firefox and thunderbird)
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| 19:51 | <korcan> map7: you on here alot? I don't have time now... probably won't be until later this month :/
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| 19:51 | map7: thats all I need it for...
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| 19:51 | <map7> yeah I'm usually on here.
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| 19:51 | <korcan> so when someone gets an attachment, they can launch the appropriate program
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| 19:51 | <map7> yes
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| 19:51 | I can open up openoffice (server app)
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| 19:51 | <korcan> thats all I think most should need it for
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| 19:52 | <map7> I've got one wrapper for pdfs, office documents and multimedia files
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| 19:52 | <jammcq> giaco: the server controls the printing, but the printer can be connected anywhere
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| 19:53 | <giaco> jammcq, I feel some black magic in here, I need to read how it works now, because this will be the core of my installation
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| 19:53 | <korcan> map7: is it something you can email me? I haven't played withit at all
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| 19:53 | <jammcq> giaco: printing?
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| 19:53 | <giaco> jammcq, yez
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| 19:54 | <jammcq> theres a redirector in l tsp. a small process that listens on the network at port 9100, and redirects the data to a printer plugged into a parallel, serial or USB port
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| 19:54 | <korcan> giaco: you doing POS System?
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| 19:54 | <jammcq> so you configure CUPS on the server to print to that workstation at port 9100, and it looks just like a network attached printer
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| 19:54 | <giaco> korcan, really don't know what a POS System is, but maybe
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| 19:54 | <jammcq> really simple and works very well
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| 19:55 | <giaco> jammcq, so every client is running a CUPS server locally, I suppose
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| 19:55 | <jammcq> no
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| 19:55 | not a cups server.
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| 19:55 | just the redirector, IF there's a printer plugged in
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| 19:56 | <giaco> a socket from 9100 to /dev/ttyS0 for example?
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| 19:56 | <jammcq> the CUPS server is running on the server
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| 19:56 | yes, that's the redirector
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| 19:56 | it's called 'jetpipe'
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| 19:56 | <giaco> this is really really cool
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| 19:56 | my compliments
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| 19:56 | <jammcq> pretends to be a HP Jetdirect interface
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| 19:57 | lots of guys here have made it as awesome as it is
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| 19:57 | <korcan> map7: u there?
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| 19:57 | <jammcq> I worked on it up through LTSP-4.2, but over the past 4 years, I've not done any development
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| 19:57 | <giaco> ok but now I need to read how to "install" the printer on the thin client, maybe install is not the right word, how to start that jetpipe
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| 20:10 | <Leolo_3> highvoltage : you're in sherbrooke, qc?
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| 20:11 | * Leolo_3 is in north hatley, just a tad south | |
| 20:11 | <Leolo_3> of sherbie
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| 20:18 | <cliebow_> jammcq:how was Beazil?
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| 20:18 | <jammcq> cliebow_: HEY !!
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| 20:18 | it was great, but that was like 2 months ago
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| 20:18 | <cliebow_> hi!!
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| 20:18 | <jammcq> cliebow_: I've created the wiki page for BTS
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| 20:18 | <cliebow_> oh..i thought June
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| 20:19 | <Leolo_3> jammcq : hello. Philip, from e-mail here. Thank you for your help today
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| 20:19 | <jammcq> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_ByTheSea2010
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| 20:19 | no, May 6th
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| 20:19 | Leolo_3: hey, glad to hear it worked for you
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| 20:19 | <cliebow_> Cool1..
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| 20:19 | <jammcq> cuz I was just about at my limit of being able to remember how it all works
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| 20:19 | <cliebow_> Leolo_3, Success then?
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| 20:20 | i am surprised all the gz were still handy
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| 20:20 | <jammcq> cliebow_: it's all on tds.net
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| 20:20 | it's not going anywhere
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| 20:21 | <cliebow_> great..i turned mine off today 8~(
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| 20:21 | <jammcq> oh?
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| 20:21 | retired some old stuff?
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| 20:21 | <cliebow_> well 1 to 1 with macbooks..
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| 20:21 | with like 40% breakage the first yeasr
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| 20:22 | <jammcq> wow
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| 20:22 | <cliebow_> i am on the proch typing int the dark.Yahy is today's excuse
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| 20:22 | Crap
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| 20:23 | <jammcq> heh
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| 20:23 | cliebow_: so... you coming to BTS ?
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| 20:23 | <cliebow_> they will see the error in their ways..
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| 20:23 | <Leolo_3> cliebow, jammcq : yep yep. with jammcq's proding, some google-fu and a lot of patience, got a booting kernel w/ the right drivers
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| 20:23 | <cliebow_> not sure...so mich travelling
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| 20:23 | <jammcq> heh
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| 20:24 | <cliebow_> of course..
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| 20:24 | <jammcq> cliebow_: you all moved into that new house?
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| 20:24 | <cliebow_> the phoenix will rise again
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| 20:24 | been here a month..still iving out of boxes
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| 20:24 | the swh house is rented most of the summer
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| 20:25 | * jammcq is looking forward to having a beer on your deck | |
| 20:25 | <cliebow_> been building cellar walls in preparation to core bond insulate cellar walls
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| 20:26 | there have been seals out on the ledges..bald eagles there too...all kinds of of birds
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| 20:26 | and the Maine State bird..
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| 20:26 | istrying to carry me away
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| 20:26 | as we speak......SMACK
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| 20:27 | <jammcq> don't kill it
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| 20:27 | <cliebow_> freaking mosquitoes
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| 20:27 | <jammcq> yep
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| 20:27 | <cliebow_> i have internet from the campground..have to sit out on the porch to connect
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| 20:28 | until i can build a router
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| 20:29 | i will be sure to have cold beer..have an extra fridge in the cellar
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| 20:29 | Leo..So all you needed was the kernel?
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| 20:32 | <Leolo_3> all i needed was the driver
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| 20:33 | but i figured it would be simpler to do kernel + extra module then compile a module and see if it worked with an already compiled kernel
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| 20:34 | <cliebow_> Leolo_3, right..
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| 20:36 | <Leolo_3> (simpler, if a lot longer)
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| 20:37 | added wrinkle : I had to do the compiling on a 32bit machine, rsync to a 64bit VM for building initramfs, then rsync to the client's server for testing
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| 20:37 | <cliebow_> lbe is knowledge well remembered..
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| 20:38 | <giaco> jammcq, the edubuntu guide says that it can use swap over NBD
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| 20:39 | <Leolo_3> the 32bit machine restriction is strange to me. why can't I compile a 32bit kernel on a 64bit system
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| 20:40 | <jammcq> giaco: yeah, that's what I said
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| 20:42 | <giaco> jammcq, oh, right, I misread nfs for nbd
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| 20:42 | nevermind, I'm sorry
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| 20:42 | btw, jetpipe is in the edubuntu guide, nice one
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| 20:46 | <cliebow_> Wow Brazil is well represented
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| 20:46 | <jammcq> yeah, they're crazy about ltsp. it'll be nice to have a couple of them with us
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| 20:47 | <cliebow_> that rocks...any Jonathan Carter as well..not sure i place him
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| 20:47 | <jammcq> he's highvoltage
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| 20:48 | you haven't met him yet, but you will
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| 20:48 | <cliebow_> heheh..
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| 20:49 | im goin in...for a transfusion....getting esten alive
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| 20:49 | <jammcq> k
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| 20:49 | ciao
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| 20:49 | <cliebow_> ill keep an ear to the ground..Nice to dsee you
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