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03:52 | <alkisg> Good morning
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06:31 | * vagrantc waves to work_alkisg | |
06:32 | work_alkisg is now known as alkisg | |
06:32 | <alkisg> Hi vagrantc!
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06:32 | * vagrantc is snowed in! | |
06:32 | * alkisg got busy fixing some grave wine bugs and apt repository issues, and postponed the ltsp TODOs... :-/ | |
06:32 | <alkisg> Wow!
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06:33 | Fortunately a couple of weeks ago we got enough show for skiing here too :)
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06:39 | * alkisg is trying to have an apt repository which shows the correct packages for "clients" in specific IP ranges, and dummy packages for those that don't have licenses to download those packages... | |
06:41 | <alkisg> I thought it would be easy to do that with a "deb http://ts.sch.gr/repo stable main non-free" line, but it appears that it will be easier with 2 lines, "deb http://ts.sch.gr/repo stable main" and "deb http://ts.sch.gr/repo non-free main"...
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08:12 | <jmilot> Hi
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08:12 | I have try to change nfs by nbd
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08:12 | but i doesn't work
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08:13 | i try : ltsp-config nbd-server
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08:13 | <jmilot> nbd is listenning on 10809
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08:14 | i need to change : /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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08:18 | <work_alkisg> Did you run ltsp-update-image ?
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08:18 | <alkisg> That would change pxelinux.cfg/default...
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08:22 | <jmilot> yes i run ltsp-update-image
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08:23 | but it default doesn't change ..
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08:23 | i tried ltsp-update-image -f
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08:23 | but default doesn't change
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08:23 | i have in pxelinux.cfg :
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08:24 | default, ltsp-NFS, ltsp-NBD, ltsp-version-NFS, ltsp-version-NBD
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08:24 | <alkisg> Ah, ok then change BOOT_METHODS order in $CHROOT/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
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08:24 | Put NBD before NFS
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08:25 | Then run chroot $CHROOT update-initramfs -u, and ltsp-update-image again
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08:25 | When you're finished, document everything in the ltsp wiki for the next one that will want to do it :)
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08:26 | <jmilot> i can modify your wiki ?
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08:26 | <alkisg> Sure, it's a wiki, anyone can edit the ltsp wiki afaik...
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08:27 | <jmilot> where i can put these informations ?
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08:27 | in configuration ?
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08:28 | <alkisg> No idea, check where it fits best
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08:28 | It can easily be moved later if needed
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08:29 | <jmilot> ok
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08:34 | <jmilot> default file will be changed ?
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08:34 | <alkisg> It should
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08:34 | (automatically)
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08:35 | <jmilot> it's the same ..
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08:35 | i need to change #ONTIMEOUT=ltsp-NFS in update-kernels.conf ?
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08:36 | <alkisg> Did you run update-initramfs -u in the chroot
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08:36 | <jmilot> yes i did
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08:36 | <alkisg> Is $CHROOT/boot/pxelinux.cfg/default changed?
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08:37 | <jmilot> i have :
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08:37 | default ltsp-NFS ontimeout ltsp-NFS # This file is regenerated when update-kernels runs. # Do not edit, see /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf instead. label ltsp-NFS menu label LTSP, using NFS kernel vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-486 append ro initrd=initrd.img-3.2.0-4-486 init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp boot=nfs ipappend 2
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08:38 | it didn't change
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08:38 | (it is only the beginning of the file)
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08:39 | When i launch update-initramfs - u :
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08:40 | update-initramfs -u update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-486 df: Avertissement : ne peut pas lire la table des systèmes de fichiers montés: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type warning: failed to read mtab cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab cat: /proc/cmdline: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type cat: /proc/cmdline: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
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08:48 | <vimets> hi there all
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08:48 | anyone can help me with an LTSP related problem?
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08:49 | <jmilot> Hi vimets
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08:49 | hat'is your pb ?
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08:50 | <vimets> i did a succesful instalaltion
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08:50 | of an LTSP years ago
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08:50 | now, im working in a new place and i want to doit again
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08:50 | the point is that the way to install sofware on the images
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08:50 | <jmilot> alkisg : i succeed to change nfs to nbd i need to make /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels in chroot
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08:50 | <vimets> has changed
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08:51 | if I chroot
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08:51 | and install software, i dont see it on the images
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08:51 | <alkisg> jmilot: yes that's what I said, (10:25:14 πμ) alkisg: Then run chroot $CHROOT update-initramfs -u, and ltsp-update-image again
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08:51 | <vimets> but if i install something on the server,
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08:51 | without rebuilding the image
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08:51 | i see the new sofware
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08:51 | <alkisg> jmilot: ah... update-kernels, ok, sorry
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08:51 | <vimets> on the thin clients
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08:52 | <alkisg> jmilot: do document those in the wiki
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08:52 | <vimets> kinda hot swap here
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08:52 | <alkisg> vimets: for thin clients, the software is installed on the server, not on the chroot
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08:53 | <vimets> :O but this has "no sense"
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08:53 | if i want to have diferent images with diferent software?
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08:53 | <alkisg> Then you need VMs or fat clients
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08:53 | !fatclients
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08:53 | <ltsp> fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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08:53 | <vimets> and i dont want graphical interface on the server
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08:54 | oh, but the clients are really slow
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08:54 | dont wanna fat clients
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08:54 | :(
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08:54 | <alkisg> Then VMs
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08:54 | (virtual machines running on the server and behaving as LTSP servers)
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08:55 | <vimets> ok i see
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08:55 | i will try
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08:55 | cause im stuck for some days
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08:55 | here trying to have separated images
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08:55 | <alkisg> You don't need separate images
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08:55 | You need separate servers. All of them can use the same image.
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08:55 | The servers can be virtual.
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08:55 | <vimets> well, maybe students use diferent software than teachers
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08:55 | <alkisg> Then just hide the software
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08:55 | Or prohibit access
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08:56 | That's no reason to run 2 VMs...
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08:56 | <vimets> yeah true, with VM's no
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08:56 | but with ltsp images its kinda logical
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08:56 | <alkisg> Teachers are not allowed to run e.g. apt-get install, that doesn't mean that you need another VM that doesn't have that
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08:56 | <vimets> haha ok :)
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08:56 | thanks for your light
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08:56 | i was getting to dark over here
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08:56 | and sorry for mi english
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08:57 | have a good one
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08:57 | <alkisg> So, one ltsp image, one LTSP server in VM, and controlled access
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08:57 | <vimets> :)
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08:57 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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08:57 | Don't worry about your english, it's not my native language either :)
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08:57 | <vimets> ;)
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09:02 | <jmilot> vimets, i use kde like dekstop , so i have one server but some profiles for users
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09:02 | for example : menu change for teachers or students
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09:09 | <jmilot> alkisg : when a user is connected i need to see a nbd process , right ?
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09:16 | <alkisg> jmilot: two
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09:16 | One for the root file system, and one for swap
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09:17 | <jmilot> i haven't any process, it seems to continue to use nfs ...
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09:17 | it's strange no ?
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09:17 | maybe the user doesn't poweroff his thin client ...
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09:20 | <alkisg> On the client, ltsp-localapps xterm, and there, cat /proc/cmdline, it should mention nbd
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09:35 | <jmilot> it's normal that the user launch a sftp-server
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09:35 | ?
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09:35 | <alkisg> It's for sshfs
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09:35 | (if you use localapps or fat clients)
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09:37 | <jmilot> it's strange i use only thin client ...
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09:38 | in the thin client, it's normal that i have access to user home ?
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10:05 | <Hyperbyte> jmilot, if you are the user, then yes.
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10:08 | <jmilot> ok
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11:47 | <gbaman> next question, I have a network printer
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11:47 | it is set up and nicely printing from the server
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11:47 | so how do I get that on the clients?
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11:57 | hyperbyte?
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12:05 | <Hyperbyte> gbaman, hi!
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12:05 | <gbaman> hey
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12:05 | you dont happen to have any suggestions for printers?
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12:05 | <Hyperbyte> No. LTSP has always let me down in that regard. :P
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12:05 | Are you using fat clients?
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12:06 | <gbaman> yes
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12:06 | <Hyperbyte> Do you have a network printer?
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12:06 | <gbaman> used the ltsp-pnp guide
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12:06 | yes
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12:06 | <Hyperbyte> Then it's easy.
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12:06 | Small moment.
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12:07 | Since it's networked printer, configuration from the server will just work on clients...
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12:07 | All you need to do is get LTSP to leave the configuration alone
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12:07 | Open /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes
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12:07 | Is /etc/cups/ in there?
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12:09 | If so, remove it. I don't think it is there though.
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12:09 | Also, if it's there, rebuild image.
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12:09 | Then edit /usr/share/ltsp/cleanup.d/50-printers-conf There's three uncommented lines in there... comment those.
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12:09 | Then reboot client.
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12:14 | <gbaman_> ooops
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12:15 | apparently i died
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12:15 | <Hyperbyte> !irclogs
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12:15 | <ltsp> irclogs: This channel is logged, archives are available at http://irclogs.ltsp.org
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12:15 | <gbaman_> i can see up to "then reboot client"
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12:16 | etc/cups is not in there
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12:18 | <Hyperbyte> Then just edit the other file - also, I forgot - you'll have to rebuild the image after editing that file.
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12:18 | <gbaman_> rebuilding image
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12:19 | right, that will take a while
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12:19 | brb
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12:26 | <gbaman> testing client now
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12:27 | nope Hyperbyte
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12:28 | nothing
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12:28 | will take another stab at it over the weekend, bbl
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21:56 | <joe_sizlack> still looking for an answer to my aufs, resync question
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21:57 | vagrantc, you around? or anyone know how I might re-sync my aufs mount / without rebooting?
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22:15 | <vagrantc> ?
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22:16 | re-sync?
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