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Channel log from 10 May 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:52 | <bonez2046> help.. maybe LTSP is the answer to my home networking prayers.
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| 00:53 | <bonez2046> I have three boys who share two PC's.. and an Xbox 360. they like to play various games on the two PC's.. could the local gaming still work, from local hdd's. if I had them both set up to boot off my linux server, i.e.., control login and access remotely, but then grant access to local control?
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| 00:55 | <cyberorg> bonez2046, network booting will give them linux, local booting will give whatever is installed on the disk, you cannot access control local booting
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| 00:56 | <alkisg> Like what an ldap server does?
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| 00:56 | <cyberorg> hi alkisg :)
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| 00:56 | <alkisg> Hey cyberorg :)
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| 00:56 | <bonez2046> cyberorg: ok.. thanks for the clarification
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| 00:56 | <alkisg> bonez2046: if you install pamldap on the clients, you can control who logins from the ldap server
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| 00:56 | Is that what you're asking?
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| 00:57 | <bonez2046> cyberorg: is there any way to control their two WINDOWS xp machines. so that they log in, to a centralized server. but then can run web apps or local apps on a dvd?
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| 00:57 | I don't have ldap installed yet, but perhaps that's what I need
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| 00:57 | <alkisg> If they're windows machines, you need samba pdc instead
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| 00:57 | (or just a windows domain controller)
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| 00:58 | <alkisg> ...but they need to be xp pro, not home
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| 00:58 | <bonez2046> alkisg: can windows domain controller run on my linux server?
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| 00:58 | they are both xp pro, never home
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| 00:58 | home is lamo
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| 00:58 | <cyberorg> with samba you can authenticate windows machine but there is no control over what apps are run on the xp pc
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| 00:58 | <alkisg> No, but samba pdc (primary domain controller) does run on linux servers
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| 00:59 | ...and I think the newest samba betas have support for sending policies to the clients
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| 00:59 | <bonez2046> cyberorg: that's what I need.. I have samba installed but for whatever reasons. I can't log on to the resources on either xp box from my linux box here
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| 01:00 | <cyberorg> everything runs local after authentication against ldap, and it has nothing to do with ltsp :)
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| 01:02 | <bonez2046> ok, so maybe I just need to set up ldap.. so that when they log in, it's to the ldap server here, and then they can run what they want locally.. would that allow me though, since using ldap, to control and deny access if they lose their computer privileges
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| 01:03 | am I making any sense?
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| 01:05 | <alkisg> ldap is good for linux clients, samba pdc for windows clients. Didn't you say you have windows clients? If so, forget ldap and use samba.
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| 01:06 | <bonez2046> yeah, I have two wired windows clients and one wirelessly connected window xp client.
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| 01:06 | there's one mac client too
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| 01:07 | I have samba installed, but I think it's messed up. either that or I need to reforamt the other two win xp machines.. and reload xp on each
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| 01:25 | <alkisg> There's samba client and samba server. You need the client to access windows shares. You need the server to act as a domain controller.
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| 01:26 | You can get more info in #samba, this isn't the right place for samba support...
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| 01:33 | <bonez2046> I am going to set that up tomorrow..
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| 01:33 | thanks for the guidance
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| 03:00 | <pren> hi , i'm running ubuntu 8.10 , i wantto add ubcd to the tftp boot, can anyone tell me where i put the files and which menu do i have to edit ?
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| 08:35 | <elias_a> vmlintu: Your guys are doing well here at workshop.
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| 08:36 | <vmlintu> elias_a: learning new ltsp tricks?
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| 08:36 | <elias_a> Yep - and teaching :)
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| 08:36 | We are discussing Gnome desktop control at the moment.
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| 08:37 | <vmlintu> how many people are attending?
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| 08:37 | <elias_a> 19
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| 08:38 | <vmlintu> sounds like there'll be another ltsp boom coming in Finland
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| 08:38 | <elias_a> You here that, friends in other parts of the world. We able to get about 20 LTSP admins together twice a year.
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| 08:38 | Our population is around 5 million...
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| 08:39 | <vmlintu> Any new ideas that have come up?
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| 08:40 | <elias_a> No - not really that new.
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| 08:40 | I guess we are getting to that tomorrow.
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| 08:41 | In USA you guys should be able to set up a conference of 1200 people... :)
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| 09:03 | <dobber> i'm gonna be speaking in a open source con later this year
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| 09:15 | <vbundi> hey is there a way to add ubuntu desktop theming to localapps firefox?
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| 09:20 | <vmlintu> dobber: which conference is that?
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| 09:48 | <reynolds> Good Morning! I could use some help figuring out my problems with my upgrade to 10.4. The Main propblem I seem to be having is my lts.conf, does not seem to be reflecting in my clients. Local apps are not being reflected in the menu items ssh, is on, etc.
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| 09:50 | <dobber> vmlintu openfest.org
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> highvoltage, stgraber: I'm having problems with statd (nfs locks daemon) on Lucid, it frequently doesn't start on boot and so the fat clients that use NFS_HOME hang while e.g. pulse tries to aquire a lock.
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| 09:54 | If the nfs mount options on the client are changed from "defaults" to "defaults,nolock", then the hanging problems are solved and speed is increased, but there might be some rare cases where 2 people need to have a lock on the same file under /home, and it won't work then.
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| 09:54 | I think that's a rare case, compared to the hangs I'm experiencing, so if you don't mind I'd like to put that nolock option (and also I think only a few people are using the NFS_HOME lts.conf option anyways...).
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| 09:55 | (otherwise I can just change it in my PPA, but I think others will be having the same problems on Lucid, so I thought upstream would be better)
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| 09:57 | <vbundi> when trying to delete files from a flash drive connected to a terminal, I get an error stating that it's a read-only filesystem
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| 10:04 | <vmlintu> dobber: I seem to be missing some language skills.. ;)
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| 10:05 | <elias_a> vmlintu: http://openfest.org/english/ ;-)
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| 10:13 | <Gadi> alkisg: can't you start statd manually on boot before mounting the homedir?
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> Gadi, sure, but what about all the other teachers/admins?
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| 10:13 | <Gadi> statd on the client?
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> ...and I think it was also hanging at some points, trying to contact the clients but having dns problems
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| 10:14 | <Gadi> make it part of the script
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| 10:14 | <alkisg> ...as the clients are using dynamic IPs, so they can't really receive nfs updates
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| 10:14 | (after reboot, that is)
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| 10:14 | Gadi, no, statd on the server
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| 10:15 | <Gadi> ah, so statd on the server hangs while servicing the clients and has to be restarted?
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| 10:15 | <alkisg> No, it doesn't start at all when starting the server
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| 10:15 | It may also be hanging, but I've verified that sometimes it doesn't start at all
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| 10:16 | <Gadi> gotcha - so an nfs server bug
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> I think so
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| 10:16 | It says that statd is redudant with nfs v4, but I think it's still used for nfs 3. I don't know if it should be starting automatically or not...
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| 10:17 | (according to the upstart job, it should, but sometimes it isn't)
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| 10:18 | Also, nolock would speed things up... how ofter do people need shared locks under /home?
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| 10:19 | <Gadi> wasn't the whole point of nfs_home bec you needed statd that sshfs did not properly provide?
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| 10:19 | or was it some other reason?
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> Locks are provided even without statd
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| 10:20 | They're just not syncronized between clients
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> ah
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> So e.g. evolution doesn't run with sshfs , but it runs fine with nfs, either with or without statd
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| 10:21 | So I'm worried that other people had this hangs, and didn't even know why they happened...
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> if someone uses fat and thin clients and has nfs mounted homedirs on the app server and the client, would nolock cause breakage?
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| 10:22 | <vmlintu> At least with hardy nolock broke some applications. I just cannot remember what those were..
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| 10:23 | <alkisg> *If* I understand it correctly, nolock will let the apps work fine, but it's possible that two persons write to the same "locked" file because the locks weren't shared...
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| 10:23 | <vmlintu> I haven't tested nfs3 with lucid, so I don't know how it behaves now
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| 10:23 | <alkisg> I haven't tested nfs before at all
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| 10:23 | ...and it's hard to find information... I don't think many people are using the NFS_HOME lts.conf variable...
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| 10:24 | <vmlintu> I'll be using nfs4+kerberos with fat clients to get better security
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| 10:24 | <alkisg> That's a nice setup... I hope we could automate this
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| 10:25 | vmlintu: it's not possible to specify "nolock" from the server, it has to be specified on the client, right?
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| 10:26 | <thunsucker> Good Morning!
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| 10:29 | <alkisg> Hmmm maybe I'll just patch it in my PPA until we have more info about the problem.
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| 10:31 | <vmlintu> alkisg: I cannot find the old information anymore.. it could also be that I remember it wrong and the problem was something else
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| 10:31 | I just remember fighting with a lot of mount options earlier
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| 10:31 | <alkisg> I found similar error messages in this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/540637
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| 10:32 | ...hmmm or we could just provide another lts.conf option, NFS_MOUNT_OPTIONS :P :D
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| 10:32 | <johnny> anybody know anything about a usage timer?
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| 10:32 | basically.. i need to remind people after 20 minutes on the terminal that they need to look around to see if somebody else wants to use it
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| 10:33 | nothing so bad as logging them off.. just a reminder
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> johnny: just put a script in /etc/xdg/autostart that sleeps for 20 minutes and then calls zenity
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| 10:34 | <johnny> kinda thinking of an applet..
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| 10:35 | <alkisg> You can send bubble notifications (in the up right corner) from a shell script, but if you need an applet, I think there's an alarm applet
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| 10:36 | <johnny> yes.. there's a timer applet that i use when i put food into oven
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| 10:36 | i guess i'll have to go look harder then
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| 10:38 | seriously.. i can't view uploaded images on ubuntuforum if i don't login... wtf
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| 10:38 | <thunsucker> johnny: what about changing their background to a PLEASE LOG OFF IF NOT IN USE type of image
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| 10:39 | <johnny> because most people use apps in full screen
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| 10:40 | me.. i never see my background.. my im client is most likely to be my actual background more than what i actually have set :)
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| 10:40 | i use gajim in one window mode..
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| 10:40 | that's how i'm in this room right now..
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| 10:40 | <thunsucker> johnny: that makes sense, same here
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| 10:40 | <johnny> via xmpp -> irc transport
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| 10:41 | <thunsucker> johnny: of course when i have ubuntu installed on this laptop i have 8 screens so occasionally i see the background lol
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| 10:41 | and i'm itching to install lucid on here
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| 10:42 | <johnny> i upgraded to fedora 13 2 weeks ago
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| 10:42 | <thunsucker> cool like it?
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| 10:42 | <johnny> altho i deploy ltsp on ubuntu.. going to upgrade that to lucid as soon as my fellow collective member stops working
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| 10:42 | his teaching semester is almost over
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| 10:43 | yes.. i'm a big fan of fedora..
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| 10:43 | nice to see 3d on open nvidia drivers..
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| 10:43 | <johnny> even if it is slow..
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| 10:43 | <thunsucker> johnny: seems like the laptops i try to install it on always fail
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| 10:44 | <johnny> i'm using it on my 6 year old dell inspiron 8600
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| 10:44 | <thunsucker> johnny: cool maybe i'll give it a shot
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| 10:44 | <johnny> 15.4 inch widescreen..
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| 10:44 | it has served me well
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| 10:44 | im suprised that there's still not much going on in the light computer area ..
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| 10:44 | they are still all about the same weight..
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| 10:44 | <thunsucker> johnny: what email client you use? I hate to admit it but I love the functionality of outlook
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| 10:45 | <johnny> i'm currently using evolution.. but keep flirting with mutt/sup
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| 10:45 | if you like outlook.. evo is probably the closest
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| 10:45 | and it can also import pst files
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| 10:45 | then again.. so can thunderbird
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| 10:45 | <thunsucker> johnny: i hate evolution lol
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| 10:46 | <johnny> if you do it on windows (or at least last time i checked)
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| 10:46 | <thunsucker> i don't mind loosing the email
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| 10:46 | <johnny> that's what i did when i first switched to linux full time
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| 10:46 | switched from outlook to thunderbird on windows.. and then copied the directory into my ~ renamed .thunderbird
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| 10:47 | and it worked
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| 10:47 | i was surpised
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| 10:47 | <thunsucker> johnny: cool
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| 10:47 | <elias_a> sudo iptables -L
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| 10:47 | Oops :)
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| 10:47 | <johnny> we can't showw your chains here..
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| 10:47 | sorry
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| 10:49 | i really like how evo integrates with the clock applet thing..
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| 10:49 | and also how it uses the keyring infrastructure
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| 10:50 | <thunsucker> johnny: you're killing me i want to install lucid very badly lol
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| 10:50 | <johnny> also it saves me from having a separate rss feed reader
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| 10:50 | it's ok.. lucid doesn't have the open 3d nvidia drivers
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| 10:50 | nor does it have evo 2.30..
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| 10:51 | it does have open nvidia drivers in general. just zero 3d support
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| 10:51 | the kernel they picked is too old
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| 10:51 | /me wonders what alkisg thinks about systemd ..
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> Gadi, I've added an NFS_HOME_OPTIONS lts.conf variable, does it look ok? http://pastebin.com/N8fi9AQ3
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| 10:52 | johnny: never heard about systemd..
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| 10:53 | * alkisg reads http://www.netsplit.com/2010/04/30/on-systemd/ ... | |
| 10:55 | <johnny> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
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| 10:56 | it's so funny to watch thsi argument.. as the gentoo init system is certainly far superior to anything seen on distros up until upstart
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| 10:56 | mainstream distros anyways
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| 10:57 | lennart might have a point about systemd perhaps becoming better..
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| 10:57 | but the gentoo init system (and the new/compatible one openrc) are both dependency based.. and quite speedy (especially openrc)
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> alkisg: looks good to me
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| 10:57 | <johnny> /me pokes Gadi
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> meanwhile, I wonder if we should move away from running pulseaudio in system mode
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| 10:57 | <johnny> Gadi, have you heard anything about controlling client usage.. but not in a hardcore way
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| 10:58 | <johnny> as in.. shutting off their computer
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| 10:58 | i kinda want a click to continue with warning
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| 10:58 | <Gadi> johnny: how do you mean exactly?
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| 10:58 | <johnny> Gadi, is that possible?
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| 10:58 | i mean about pulseaudio in system mode
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| 10:58 | <Gadi> hehe - we are crosstalking
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| 10:58 | :)
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| 10:59 | <johnny> Gadi, i've been requested to implement some sort of timer mechanism for my public internet terminals
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| 10:59 | the experience is mostly self managed
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| 10:59 | sometimes people just need a little reminder tho.. that they've been there too long and should look around to see if somebody else wants to use it
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> johnny: I think there is a gnome session timer type thing out there somewhere
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| 11:00 | are they running gnome?
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| 11:00 | <johnny> yes.. we run gnome
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| 11:00 | fat clients
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| 11:00 | <vagrantc> i wrote some hooks into /etc/X11/Xsession.d using xmessage and timeout
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| 11:00 | <johnny> or.. thick clients
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| 11:00 | vagrantc, i kinda like the way the current gnome timer applet works
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| 11:00 | i think i might wanna combine that..
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| 11:00 | with this
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| 11:00 | https://launchpad.net/timekpr
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/WhatIsWrongWithSystemMode
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> meanwhile I don't understand this argument
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| 11:01 | unless there is an issue running pulseaudio as user "root"
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| 11:01 | <johnny> Gadi, i thought we were the one of the accepted reasons not to use system mode.. especially since we're just a pass through
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| 11:01 | pretty sure thin clients were directly mentioned
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> johnny: right, but I don't get it
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| 11:01 | <johnny> well, go ask lennart, i'm sure he won't mind explaining
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> does it not like running as user root?
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| 11:02 | well, I think I am just going to try it the other way first
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| 11:02 | :)
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| 11:02 | * Gadi doesn't believe anything he reads on the internet | |
| 11:02 | <Gadi> :P
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| 11:03 | <johnny> then ask lennart ....
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| 11:03 | <Gadi> right
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| 11:03 | the flip side is, I am finally seeing in lucid all of the pulseaudio crashing and such that others have mentioned
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| 11:04 | and I think being in the "on your own" category wrt dev efforts of others is not a good place to be
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| 11:04 | :)
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| 11:04 | <johnny> i'm sure the pulseaudio peeps won't mind helping..
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| 11:04 | it's just like the packagekit thing with installing packages in the chroot..
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| 11:04 | richard hughes is a swell fellow
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| 11:04 | he didn't mind looking after it..
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| 11:05 | <johnny> i'm sure dan williams is also swell for networkmanager
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| 11:05 | vagrantc, you need to go directly poke davidz..
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| 11:05 | or whoever else is maintining it now
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| 11:23 | <thunsucker> I am running win7, I have 4 monitors setup, Identified from left to right (1, 2, 3, 4) and I have a tiled background that stetches across all 4 monitors. Unfortenly it starts on 2 and ends on 1
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| 11:23 | I assume this is because my startmenu is on monitor 2
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| 11:23 | oops lol
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| 11:23 | <vagrantc> s,timeout,timelimit,
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| 11:44 | <vbundi> does anyone use pessulus?
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| 11:55 | <vbundi> !lts.conf
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| 11:55 | <ltspbot> vbundi: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 11:59 | <alkisg> vbundi: I've seen it 1-2 times, but it has very limited settings, so I switched to using gconf-editor, which is much more powerfull
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| 13:14 | <jordil> hello bobby, i need help with LTSP and Ubuntu 10.04
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> !ask
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| 13:14 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 13:16 | <jordil> i get the message "Error: failed to connect to NBD Server"
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| 13:16 | when i boot the LTSP Client
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| 13:16 | system is: Ubuntu 10.04
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> Do you have another dhcp server running?
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| 13:23 | Also, is your nbd server running? sudo netstat -nap | grep 2000
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| 13:28 | <jordil> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1120/inetd
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| 13:29 | <alkisg> Do you get a busybox prompt?
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| 13:30 | <jordil> yes
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> run: cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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| 13:30 | ...and see if ROOTSERVER there is indeed your ltsp server
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| 13:31 | <jordil> run on the client?
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> Yes, on the busybox prompt
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| 13:32 | <jordil> ok second
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| 13:35 | <jordil> the rootserver ip is ok
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| 13:36 | 10.0.0.1
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| 13:36 | ROOTPATH /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 13:37 | is the same problem like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9242207
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> In the busybox prompt, try: nbd-client 10.0.0.1 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 13:38 | Don't do what the forum topic says, it's wrong
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| 13:38 | <jordil> ok
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| 13:38 | <alkisg> nbd-server is ran from inetd, it doesn't need a config file.
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| 13:40 | <jordil> Negotiation: Error: Server closed connection
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> On the server, try: grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 13:41 | <jordil> 2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> And finally, do: ls -l /opt/ltsp/images
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| 13:42 | <jordil> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 523255808 2010-05-10 19:43 i386.img
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| 13:42 | ok
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| 13:43 | but i need a i386.img
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> So change inetd.conf and restart it with: sudo invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
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| 13:43 | <jordil> change to i386.img ?
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 13:49 | <jordil> sorry i must run i a other room to the clients
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| 13:49 | so now it works!!
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| 13:49 | thank your verry much!!
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| 13:49 | great!
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| 14:23 | <reynolds> is anyone else having problems with clients not reflecting, items from lts.conf with lucid?"
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> reynolds: where is your lts.conf located?
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| 14:25 | <reynolds> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> Sit on a thin client, open a gnome terminal, and run: ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 14:25 | An xterm will open, In that, run: getltscfg -a
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| 14:29 | <reynolds> ok
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> What did you get?
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| 14:29 | <reynolds> nothing
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| 14:32 | is that normal?
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| 14:33 | should I try it on another client?
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> moment...
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| 14:39 | reynolds: try this: cd /tmp; echo "get /ltsp/i386/lts.conf" | tftp server; cat lts.conf
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| 14:39 | <reynolds> in terminal, or xterm
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> in xterm
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| 14:41 | <johnny> alkisg, so.. the new clients have been a great success
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> nice! lucid?
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| 14:46 | <johnny> no lucid yet
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| 14:47 | waiting for my fellow tech committee member to finish up his semester
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| 14:47 | grading papers and whatnot this week
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| 14:48 | he wrote our point of sale software.. so he needs to be there in case the upgrade to lucid breaks it
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| 14:48 | also.. rdiff-backup is pretty annoying when it comes to version matches between server and client
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| 14:48 | <reynolds> I get "Error code 1: File not found"
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| 14:48 | <johnny> and ping server ?
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| 14:48 | reynolds, ping server
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| 14:48 | is it the ip you expect?
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| 14:49 | if so.. then your file isn't in the right place on the server
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| 14:49 | <reynolds> its the right ip
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| 14:49 | <johnny> or your tftp has the wrong path to where your files are stored
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| 14:50 | or .. yu're not running the tftp server you think you are
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| 14:50 | on the server cat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i3886/lts.conf
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| 14:50 | err
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| 14:50 | i386.. not i3886 :)
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| 14:50 | <reynolds> from terminal? or xterm
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| 14:50 | <johnny> wherever.. as long as you're on the server
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| 14:51 | <reynolds> no such file or directory
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| 14:52 | sorry i typed it wrong
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> reynolds: cat /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 14:52 | <reynolds> I get a list of my current lts.conf
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| 14:53 | alkisg: on server?
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| 14:53 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 14:53 | Does that point to /var/lib/tftpboot ?
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| 14:53 | Or, easier, ps -ef | grep tftp
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| 14:54 | ...and see if it has /var/lib/tftpboot on the command line
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| 14:54 | <reynolds> no "/srv/tftp"
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> OK, that's the problem then, you need to change that. Did you install on some beta?
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| 14:54 | Or it was the final lucid?
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| 14:54 | Or an upgrade?
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| 14:55 | <reynolds> hold on I have to due Bus duty. Be back in 5
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| 15:30 | <reynolds> its an upgrade
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| 15:31 | <reynolds> so should i change /etc/default/tftpd-hpa to /var/lib/tftpboot?
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| 15:31 | from /srv/tftp
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| 15:34 | <dba> no
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| 15:34 | don't touch it manually, use 'dpkg-reconfigure tftpd-hpa -plow' if you insist on changing it.
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| 15:37 | <reynolds> Im not that familiar with tftp, can I use the default settings. dba?
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| 15:38 | <miklove> alkisg? Are you there?
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| 15:38 | <alkisg> Yup?
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| 15:39 | <miklove> I went back to 9.10 karmic and did a new ltsp server, and then modifications using the fat client wiki and dhcp proxy wiki.
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| 15:40 | The kernel is only at 31-21 yet I still have the problem with the 855GM chipset.
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| 15:40 | <alkisg> miklove: ah, we talked before and you had a different username ?
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| 15:41 | <johnny> reynolds, by default it uses inetd ..
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| 15:41 | reynolds, so you should be looking in /etc/inetd.conf for that path
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| 15:41 | <miklove> IS there any way to log dmesg output after the initrd.img has been downloaded. I want to see what the first message is. I tried on another laptop and it seems the first message on it was 915agppart or something similar.
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| 15:41 | <reynolds> ok Ill try that
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| 15:42 | <miklove> ah yes. That's right. no idea why it took this one in chatzilla.
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| 15:42 | maybe cos I reoinstalled everything.
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| 15:42 | <alkisg> Yeah you had myjess last time
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| 15:42 | johnny: that's tftp
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| 15:42 | <miklove> yep. No idea how to change it.
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| 15:42 | <alkisg> and lucid doesn't use inetd for tftp
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| 15:42 | <johnny> alkisg, yes.. isn't that what we're talking about?
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| 15:42 | oh it diesn't?
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| 15:42 | <alkisg> reynolds: just change the path
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| 15:42 | <johnny> well good to know.. cuz i use dnsmasq for tftp
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| 15:42 | so i'll have to actually disable it
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> miklove: does this laptop have a hard disk to try installing lucid, to make it easier to debug kernel issues?
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| 15:43 | <miklove> No. It has nothing.
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> Well I can only tell you what I testified on that bug report. My 855-based laptop booted with -19 kernel, and with the newer one from the ppa. It didn't boot with the current lucid kernel.
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| 15:44 | <miklove> Hold on. my other old laptop same as the one without anything has no Network so let me go upstairs and grab a pcmcia one. At least this other S6120 has a screen.
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| 15:44 | See I was thinking maybe, even tho I have set scrteen to ecternal in BIOS that it is booting to internal screen, which of course this does not have.
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| 15:45 | I have more old kit than enough, but it has broken bits in each bit of klit :)
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| 15:45 | <alkisg> In my case X caused a hard freeze, nothing worked
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| 15:45 | No caps lock, nothing ... didn't try REISUB though
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| 15:46 | <reynolds> ok I changed it to /var/lib/tftpboot but clients are still not reflecting lts.conf
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| 15:47 | <alkisg> reynolds: restart tftp with: sudo invoke-rc.d tftpd-hpa restart
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| 15:47 | How did you install lucid?
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| 15:48 | <johnny> reynolds, instead of going back and forth on the clients..
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| 15:49 | just do the same command alkisg gave you.. just change server to localhost
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| 15:49 | while on the server
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| 15:50 | <reynolds> I did a OS upgrade from 9.10, I just ran that command and I get " Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
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| 15:50 | utility, e.g. service tftpd-hpa restart
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> OK, try to boot the client
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| 15:52 | <miklove> alkisg. I forgot, I caoot boot this other S6120 cos it has a busted ethernet socket. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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| 15:53 | I have something called geexbox in the DVD drive of the laptop and that boots up fine into external screen so I do think it is something to do with
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| 15:53 | the 855GM adapter.
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| 15:53 | <alkisg> I didn't have problems with karmic with that chipset
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| 15:53 | <miklove> Darn.
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| 15:54 | Is there anyway to make a boot DVD with that image?
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> Can you boot the karmic or lucid live cd?
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| 15:55 | <reynolds> ok I rebooted. Still not showing what is reflected in lts.conf
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> reynolds: and now ps -ef | grep tftp says tftpboot?
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| 15:55 | <johnny> /me defers to alkisg about lucid ..
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| 15:55 | i did'nt realize it had changed
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| 15:55 | <miklove> I'll burn the lynx onto DVD and try it. I'll also get karmic down from upstairs and try it.
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| 15:56 | <alkisg> johnny: yeah it changed in debian... they even changed the path to /svr/tftp, but ubuntu decided to keep /var/lib/tftpboot..
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| 15:56 | <miklove> I just want to ask you, would anything that was set in the server's bootup be replicated in the image? What I mean is, I have a server with a CT69000 Graphics chip
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| 15:56 | <johnny> ah.. /srv .. really? took awhile for people to decide to use /srv
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| 15:56 | <miklove> and I had to do heavy mods to server's xorg.conf to get it to boot.
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| 15:57 | I don;t see any xorg.conf in the image, but would it be trying to use the same vga driver as the server?
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> There's an X_CONF lts.conf setting
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| 15:57 | !lts.conf
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| 15:57 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 15:57 | <reynolds> alkisg: it says /var/lib/tftpboot at the end..
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| 15:57 | <miklove> Yeh I am using the 800x600 of that.
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> If you have to, you can just use a custom xorg.conf...
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| 15:57 | reynolds: ok let's sum up
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| 15:58 | 1) put /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf to pastebin
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| 15:58 | 2) put /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to pastebin
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| 15:58 | ...and ok you're saying that tftpd uses tftpboot/ now, so no need to check that.
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| 15:59 | <reynolds> step 1 http://pastebin.com/ayDhtLfY
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| 16:00 | <alkisg> Your lts.conf has a syntax error in line 21
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| 16:00 | You can't have an empty section (nor with comments only)
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| 16:00 | <reynolds> step 2 http://pastebin.com/MTfmZQZG
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| 16:00 | <miklove> Is really strange how the laptop used to boot up ok before I upgraded to lucid and then re-installed karmic from scratch.
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| 16:00 | <alkisg> So either put some var=value between the mac address sections, or comment them out
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| 16:01 | <johnny> alkisg, we need somebody to fix up the lts.conf parser.
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| 16:01 | too bad i don't know lexx
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> Nah, we need a web-based lts.conf ;)
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| 16:02 | <johnny> sure.. but until then. i bet whoever wrote it could make it cleaner in like 5 minutes or less
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| 16:02 | by 2 things.. allow empty sections, drop [default]
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| 16:02 | or drop the requirement of [default]
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| 16:03 | <reynolds> ok I got go... Thanks alot for your help..
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| 16:03 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 16:03 | Did you fix the syntax error? Did it work?
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| 16:10 | <reynolds> no I removed the hole section of Mac Addresses, and still nothing
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| 16:10 | whole
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| 16:13 | <miklove> ok. I put these into lts.conf, now there is no display from initrd.img loading until the signon window. But the signon window is Ubuntu, not ltsp.org!
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| 16:13 | XRANDR DISABLE
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| 16:13 | CONFIGURE_X = True
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| 16:13 | XSERVER=vesa
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| 16:13 | X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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| 16:13 | X_MODE_0 = 800x600
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| 16:14 | I have no idea if any of these extra parameters are doing anything.
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| 16:17 | I also closed the dvd door, so I will remove these params again and test again.
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| 16:20 | Since lts.conf has this laptop auto logging in but it doesn;t do it with that Ubuntu screen up, there is something wrong there also.
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| 16:23 | xrandr disable option allows the Ubuntu login screen to come up, but where is the ltsp.org screen?
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| 16:23 | Then after logging in, which as I haver already said I shouldn't have to do, all i get is a mouse pointer.
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| 16:24 | <Gadi> should be: XRANDR_DISABLE=True
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| 16:25 | the above is a syntax error - which means none of the conf is being read
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| 16:26 | <miklove> oh right!. Or maybe the rest of the lts.conf is not being read cos the auto login is after this. Strange that I took out lts.conf earlier when testing and it still didn;t boot.
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| 16:28 | Maybe I didn't leave it long enough earlier because i hear the dvd spin up for the second time, and a little while after that the Ubuntu login screen appears.
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| 16:36 | <miklove> Looks like that incorrect setting stopped the auto login, cos now that it is correct or is it commented out, all I can see is my monitor constantly trying to auto adjust, like the xserver is crashing and restarting all the time.
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| 16:36 | But without being able to look at any logs I cannot tell what is happening.
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| 16:40 | On virtualbox on my windows PC, I can login fine and get further although the spinning icon is constant on vbox.
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| 16:43 | <Gadi> miklove: is this lucid?
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| 16:44 | <miklove> Nope, I couldnt get it working in lucid so went back to karmic.
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| 16:45 | And I cannot get itworking here either. The funny thing is that it used to work from a netbook dd image to the server, cos I did all the work at the start on my netbook.
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| 16:45 | I then did a fresh install of lucid on the server, and when that did not work, did a fresh install of karmic on the server.
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| 16:46 | <Gadi> well, get rid of CONFIGURE_X=True
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| 16:46 | no need
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| 16:46 | drop the XSERVER, too
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| 16:46 | <Gadi> let it autodetect it
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| 16:47 | this is an intel netbook that you are simply trying to get in the right mode?
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| 16:47 | and you are using autologin?
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| 16:47 | <miklove> Since my netbook is now also lucid I cannot test from that anymore. It would mean me creating another part on the servers disk, and dumping the dd image from the netbook into that and then customise all that again.
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| 16:47 | <Gadi> keep in mind that once gnome takes over, if the autologin user has a resolution set in system prefeences, it will try to set that resolution
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| 16:47 | dd? aren't you using ltsp?
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| 16:48 | <miklove> No. i was using the netbook as the test bed for the ltsp server. The problem laptop is a Fujtisu siemens S6120 with the 855GM chipset.
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| 16:48 | <Gadi> isn't the netbook netbooting from an ltsp server?
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| 16:48 | <miklove> dd diskdump.
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| 16:48 | <Gadi> ah
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| 16:48 | so you are just trying to get the fujitsu to comeup with the right mode
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| 16:49 | first get it working to an ldm login screen (ie no autologin)
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| 16:49 | <miklove> Right, well if I change that now in the Vbox bootup, as the same user, then I will try again on the laptop.
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| 16:50 | OK. as the same user in vbox, I have applied the display setting of 800x600 61hz.
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| 16:51 | Ahhh, darn, I forgot the user can no longer login automatically. Thats what the screen refreshing is doing! constantly trying to auto login a bad user.!
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| 16:51 | Sheesh!
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| 16:52 | I forgot to change the user details in lts.conf!
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| 16:55 | <davemir> Hello!
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| 16:55 | I have ubuntu ltsp-server
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| 16:56 | but I want to create an image that is not the same as the server but for example a different distribición for thin clients.
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| 16:57 | Someone can help me?
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| 16:58 | <miklove> Would you believe it, I have a screen up on my S6120 laptop. But, that still does not explain why I cannot see anything between the time that initrd.img loads, and when xserver takes over. Must be defo something wrong in the kernel for the 855GM chipset even in release 2.6.31-21
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| 16:59 | <Lns> davemir, if you want to customize the terminal environment why not just make modifications to the chroot after building it?
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| 17:00 | miklove, i don't think i was here for whole conversation..did you remove 'quiet' and 'splash' from the default kernel parm file?
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| 17:00 | <miklove> Thanks to GADI and ALKisg for the help.
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| 17:00 | yes they are gone.
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| 17:00 | <Lns> k
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| 17:00 | <davemir> Lns: Exactly
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| 17:01 | Lns: I'll explain
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| 17:01 | <miklove> I also tried all sorts of settings in default, like vesa, vga=771 etc, none worked. But as long as I have an indicator (my DVD spinning up for the 2nd time) I know that something is happening on the client.
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| 17:02 | <Lns> weird.
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| 17:02 | <miklove> But it does irk me that the 855GM driver in the 2.6.31.21 kernel is also faulty, same as in lucid!
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| 17:02 | <Gadi> miklove: are you still passing XSERVER=vesa?
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| 17:03 | <Lns> greets Gadi !
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| 17:03 | <Gadi> if not, then the driver is fine
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| 17:03 | * Gadi waves to Lns | |
| 17:03 | <davemir> Lns: when I run a thin client desktop that I get is the default for ubuntu and when I install something chroot / opt/ltsp/i386 and then apt-get install VLCC not installed. However when I install the normal server and then run the thin client I get installed.
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| 17:03 | <Lns> how's the school pilot coming along?
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| 17:03 | <miklove> Gadi. No, I am passing nothing like that anymore. I commented everything out to do with X.
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| 17:03 | <Gadi> miklove: so, the driver is fine
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| 17:04 | :)
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| 17:04 | <miklove> sorry, except xrandr. Let me reboot and see what happens.
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| 17:04 | <Lns> davemir, you can use a fat-client environment ifthat's what you're looking for, or localapps..
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| 17:05 | <Gadi> well, like I say, if you use autologin and the user has a resolution preference set, then xrandr aint going to do anything
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| 17:05 | <miklove> No the driver in the kernel is not working properly. I can see nothing from initrd.img load to the gnome desktop.
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| 17:05 | <Gadi> miklove: well, thats not the video driver - it is the frame buffer
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| 17:05 | <Lns> miklove, it could be something other than the video driver..
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| 17:06 | <davemir> Lns: as I do exactly?
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| 17:06 | <Gadi> miklove: try: vga=788 on the kernel command line in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxlinux.cfg/default
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| 17:06 | <miklove> Really? Is there anything I can put into the default file to change that? Also, taking out that xrandr_disable line seems to have booted into Gnome but I can see nothing other than the mouse pointer.
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| 17:07 | <Lns> davemir, ?
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| 17:08 | <davemir> Lns: tell me
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| 17:08 | Lns: What do I do with what you said?
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| 17:09 | <Lns> davemir, check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 17:10 | <miklove> will give that a go now.
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| 17:11 | * Lns loves having a thin client downstairs hooked up to his 32" and stereo =) | |
| 17:11 | <miklove> Still see nothing between initrd.img and gnome.
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| 17:12 | This old lappy has no screen, could it be defaulting to internal display of which I cannot see before X comes along and looks and sees an external monitor.
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| 17:13 | <davemir> Lns: with this I can go with nbd?
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| 17:16 | <Lns> davemir, sure, it's assuming you are using nbd for the chroot
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| 17:18 | <davemir> Lns: from what I've seen is no longer installed by default NFS in ltsp-server-standalone. Am I right?
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| 17:20 | <Lns> davemir, for karmic? I don't think so.. I'm running lucid upgraded from karmic and it still uses nbd
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| 17:20 | davemir, though i'm sure you can do fatclients in either environment.
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| 17:20 | <miklove> Thanks for all your help. It's 23:18 here in ther UK. Time for sleep. Goodnight.
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| 17:21 | <davemir> Lns: What distribution do you recommend for thin clients?
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| 17:22 | <Lns> davemir, whichever one fits my environment and needs the best ;)
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| 17:25 | But personally I have ubuntu (8.04/10.04) and Debian (Lenny+backports) installations hovering around
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| 17:25 | Just because I'm a debian zealot though =p
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| 17:27 | <davemir> Lns: But if you do a standard installation with 9.10 alternate, it is normal for thin clients receive the default ubuntu comes out in the terminal server and if you install something on the terminal server is also installed on the thin clients. It is to ake sure I was doing well.
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| 17:32 | <Lns> davemir, yes what you are saying is correct. When you install software on the server, it is used on the terminals. That is the nature of LTSP - you are logging onto a graphical session from the thin clients TO the server (unless you are using fatclients).
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| 17:36 | <davemir> Lns: ok
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| 17:37 | Lns: That is, if I use fat client that installed the terminal server is not installed on the thin clients, it is correct what I mean?
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| 17:39 | Lns: With fat would have to enter chroot and install whatever I wanted there, correct or not?
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| 17:39 | <Lns> davemir, whatever isn't included in the fatclient chroot, yes.
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| 17:41 | <davemir> Lns: I do not understand
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| 17:42 | <johnny> pretend he never mentioned fta clients..
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| 17:42 | <Lns> davemir, the answer to your last question is "correct".
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| 17:42 | <johnny> (
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| 17:42 | <Lns> johnny, why? i'm just educating him =)
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| 17:43 | <davemir> Lns: and the first question?
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| 17:43 | <Lns> davemir, your first question didn't really make sense to me.
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| 17:45 | <davemir> Lns: If I do a normal install with ubuntu alternate I can not use the chroot to install the programs, but if the system to update, correct or not?
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| 17:47 | <Lns> davemir, i think you need to read the ltsp documentation to get a better understanding of how the system works.. i mean no offense at all, but it sounds like you are just confused as to what roles the server vs. client plays.
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| 17:47 | <johnny> !docs
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| 17:47 | <ltspbot> johnny: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 17:47 | <Lns> ty johnny
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| 17:50 | <davemir> Lns: I just wanted to confirm that if I do not use fat client, I can not install programs that install whatever the terminal serivdor. It was just that.
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| 17:50 | <Lns> davemir, when you don't use fat clients, you are running software on the server.
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| 17:50 | <johnny> davemir, read the docs.. then come back
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| 17:51 | it answers all that
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| 17:52 | <davemir> Lns: ok, thanks solve my doubts. I think I understand.
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| 17:53 | <Lns> davemir, np. Read up though :)
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| 17:54 | <davemir> Lns: Ok. I'll read it more attentively.
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| 17:54 | Lns: Thanks
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| 17:54 | <Lns> you're welcome
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| 17:54 | <davemir> Lns: goodbye
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