IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 July 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:13 | <ziroday> how intergrated is ltsp into xubuntu?
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| 02:32 | <ziroday> how well intergrated is ltsp in any of the *buntu distro's?
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| 02:33 | <monteslu> I hear its pretty good on edubuntu, but I'm a fedora user myself
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| 02:33 | hang out, there are ubunutu users that frequent this channel
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| 02:45 | <ziroday> monteslu: thanks
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| 06:40 | <ari_stress> hi all :)
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| 06:42 | <cliebow> Ho!
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| 06:43 | <ari_stress> cliebow: :)
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| 06:44 | <cliebow> what are you workng on?
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| 06:44 | <ari_stress> cliebow: i'm using ltsp5 on feisty, can we prevent user from "shutting down" the server when he exit and click on his ltsp client?
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| 06:45 | <cliebow> have you looked at pessulus?
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| 06:45 | <ari_stress> what's that
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| 06:45 | <cliebow> it is a way of locking down desktop
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| 06:45 | <ari_stress> ok i'm googling it, cooool
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| 06:46 | hey, it's said that it's already included in gnome?
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| 06:48 | <cliebow> i cant remember..i typed pessulus at a commandline
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| 06:48 | i dont quickly see shutdown
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| 06:48 | <ari_stress> ok
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| 06:49 | <cliebow> wwhy not pop into #edubuntu..
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| 06:54 | <ari_stress> aiyaa.. why i dont think of that?? thanks :)
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| 08:11 | <ziroday> whats best system for built in LTSP that needs no downloads except for disc
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| 08:15 | anybody here?
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| 08:31 | <ari_stress> yes
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| 08:31 | wazzup
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| 08:32 | ziroday: i think so far it's edubuntu
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| 08:38 | <ziroday> wow someones here
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| 08:38 | hey
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| 08:40 | <ari_stress> yes
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| 08:40 | wazzup
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| 08:48 | <ziroday> um what distro would you reccomend
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| 08:48 | to install LTSP without installing
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| 08:48 | i mean downloading
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| 08:48 | just installs straigth off the dics
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| 08:48 | besides edubuntu, coz that never works
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| 08:49 | <ari_stress> ziroday: i highly recommend edubuntu
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| 08:49 | oh
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| 08:49 | mm..
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| 08:50 | so far only edubuntu provides out of disc integration
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| 08:50 | <ziroday> yeah but it never seems to work for me
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| 08:50 | it gives me error on Build LTSP Chroot
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| 08:51 | its also only in server edition
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| 08:51 | which from what i understand has no gui
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| 08:51 | <ari_stress> then you are using edubuntu server, it's ok
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| 08:51 | if you want gui, you can install it
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| 08:51 | sudo apt-get edubuntu-desktop
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| 08:52 | <ziroday> ok, but the trouble is this setup is being used by a NGO in indonesia
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| 08:52 | where internet at best is 0.2mps
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| 08:52 | at only works for 2 hrs straight
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| 08:52 | <ari_stress> that's true :)
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| 08:52 | well
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| 08:52 | yes
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| 08:53 | to build the client environment, we need internet access
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| 08:53 | <ziroday> but with edubuntu
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| 08:53 | do you need internet access?
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| 08:53 | <ari_stress> i dont think so, but i'm not sure
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| 08:54 | i'm using original ubuntu
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| 08:54 | <ziroday> ok if i install the gui, do i have to rebuild ltsp to give all the servers gui
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| 08:54 | or does it auto update
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| 08:54 | <ari_stress> automatically
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| 08:55 | <ziroday> ok
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| 08:55 | so in theory i could dl the desktop edition and server addtion
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| 08:55 | and then specify the desktop as a repo
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| 08:55 | and then install gui/
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| 08:55 | *?
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| 08:55 | <ari_stress> that's what makes ubuntu so great. for example, i'm using original ubuntu (gnome) right?
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| 08:56 | <ziroday> yeah same :)
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| 08:56 | <ari_stress> all i do is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and voila, i have kubuntu :D
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| 08:56 | <ziroday> ok then i think i understand
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| 08:57 | have you ever used edubuntu or xubuntu outta disc LTSP installation?
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| 08:57 | <ari_stress> not yet, i'm still working on ltsp on original ubuntu
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| 08:57 | but guess what
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| 08:57 | <ziroday> ok no prob just wondering what was most common issue for LTSP Chroot not building at start
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| 08:57 | <ari_stress> yesterday i install xubuntu-desktop, and now my ltsp client all can open xfce on their desktop :D
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| 08:57 | <ziroday> which happened to me :(
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| 08:58 | sweet
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| 08:58 | <ari_stress> ziroday: just make sure you follow the steps correctly
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| 08:58 | <ziroday> ari_stress: yeah no prob. is the Xubuntu and Edubuntu LTSP outta dicd mechanism the same or different?
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| 08:58 | *disc
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| 08:59 | <ari_stress> the same
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| 08:59 | <ziroday> hmmm
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| 08:59 | <ari_stress> but we dont have to do a thing with edubuntu
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| 08:59 | <ziroday> yeah
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| 08:59 | ok
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| 08:59 | <ari_stress> it install ltsp right out of disk
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| 09:00 | <ziroday> well ive got a friend in Jakarta now, who im going to fedex the discs to and hope it all works
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| 09:00 | thanks for everything
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| 09:00 | youve been great for listeinig
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| 09:00 | <ari_stress> i'm in jakarta, btw :))
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| 09:01 | <ari_stress> what ngo do you working with?
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| 09:01 | <ziroday> oh you are
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| 09:01 | thats awesome
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| 09:01 | im with Rachel House , relativily new
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| 09:02 | its a orphanage that takes care of terminally ill kid
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| 09:02 | *kids
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| 09:02 | <ari_stress> oh
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| 09:02 | <ziroday> and basically makes them as comfortable as possible
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| 09:02 | before they die
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| 09:02 | <ari_stress> so sad
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| 09:02 | <ziroday> yeah it is, i just got back
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| 09:03 | it shocking that next to the rich isall the poor
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| 09:03 | and the internet is SOOOOO slow
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| 09:03 | <ari_stress> you can say that :(
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| 09:04 | <ziroday> so what do use LTSP for?
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| 09:05 | <ari_stress> i've got a client (factory) that want to replace windows on their old desktops, so the solution is ltsp :)
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| 09:06 | <ziroday> ahh similar with us, we got donated a bunch of P3 and P2 with no hopes as standalones
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| 09:06 | anyway i gotta go
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| 09:06 | great talking to you
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| 09:06 | <ziroday> heres my email, we should talk again - ziroday@gmail.com
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| 09:06 | <ari_stress> ok
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| 09:06 | <ziroday> cya
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| 09:06 | <ari_stress> see you again
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| 09:07 | bye
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| 09:07 | <ziroday> bya
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| 17:47 | <johnny> hi folks
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| 17:48 | anybody have a link to docs that mention setting up ltsp with dnsmasq where dnsmasq is on another server
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| 17:48 | i'm confused my the cornucopia of dhcp options
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| 17:48 | s/my/by/
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| 17:48 | <dberkholz> just gotta add the option that points somewhere else for the nfs, right?
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| 17:50 | <johnny> aha.. look.. it's dberkholz :)
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| 17:50 | i'm volunteering at a collectively run coffeeshop and i'm attempting to clean up their public terminal setup
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| 17:50 | and we have a router running openwrt and dnsmasq
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| 17:51 | they run ubuntu terminals already, but obviously the config is not centralized or clean
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| 17:51 | dberkholz, yeah i had some doc that mentioned it, but it didn't look obvious how to change it for another server
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| 17:51 | <dberkholz> dhcp-option=17,192.168.1.106:/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 17:51 | dhcp-boot=/var/ftpd/pxelinux.0,boothost,192.168.0.3
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| 17:51 | those 2 should hook you up; first is nfs, second is pxe
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| 17:52 | <johnny> it's the dhcp boot
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| 17:52 | oh.. is that relative to the actual set host not the host running dnsmasq?
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| 17:52 | that's what confused me :)
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| 17:52 | <dberkholz> eh? the ip's you stick in there are the ones running the nfs/pxe servers
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| 17:53 | <johnny> yeah.. but i see a path listing
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| 17:53 | /var/ftpd/pxelinux.0
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| 17:53 | <dberkholz> that's path on the server
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| 17:54 | <johnny> on the ltsp server
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| 17:54 | <dberkholz> you're telling clients where to get at the stuff they need
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| 17:54 | combination of what ip to look, and where to look on that ip
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| 17:55 | <johnny> so boothost is not something to replace
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| 17:55 | i guess i need to read the rfc to figure out the formats.. :(
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| 17:56 | <dberkholz> um, no, you can just read the dnsmasq man page
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| 17:56 | at least for dhcp-boot
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| 17:56 | <johnny> dnsmaq tells me to do dnsmasq --help dhcp
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| 17:56 | for description of the options
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| 17:57 | <dberkholz> boothost is the name of the pxe server, in case you also want to supply that
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| 17:57 | <johnny> but it just prints out like i typed dnsmasq --help
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| 17:59 | hmm.. this is definitely a bit more complicated than i hoped :)
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| 18:20 | but it didn't get tftp
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| 18:22 | <dberkholz> oh yeah, that's another one.
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| 18:24 | try dhcp-option=66,ip
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| 18:43 | <johnny> what about 150 vs 128?
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| 18:43 | 66 is name
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| 18:44 | <dberkholz> i'm not really sure about the details, because i've always run it all on the same server to keep things easy.
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| 18:47 | <johnny> can't run it on openwrt :(
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| 18:52 | <dberkholz> heh, considered running dns on the ltsp server instead?
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| 18:54 | <johnny> i would prefer not to :)
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| 21:32 | <kaos01> anyone know how to stop X starting up on the console ?
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| 22:09 | <iMav> change your runlevel perhaps?
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