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Channel log from 15 July 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:48 | <Nubae1> ogra: I was thinking... how about doing a ltsp-sugar? that would go down extremely well with olpc
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| 02:49 | ubuntu as the base os, sugar as the interface... can't be that hard, right?
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| 07:11 | <TNKLTSP> hey
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| 07:11 | when fuse mounts the usb storage, does it use fuser or fusermount?
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| 07:19 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 07:58 | <cliebow> G'Morning !
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| 09:41 | <jorgezero> someone know othe processors that ubuntu 8.04 its compatible for ltsp 5
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| 09:41 | ???
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| 09:42 | <vagrantc> any processors the host distro supports should be supported by LTSP, for the most part.
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| 09:43 | <jorgezero> i'm asking because the ubuntu 8.04 has a problem with Geode LX right?
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| 09:43 | <irule> jorgezero you mean for server or client?
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| 09:44 | <jorgezero> client...
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| 09:44 | because i have 8 Connec EZ700 with Geode LX...
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| 09:44 | and i'm having problems..
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| 09:44 | <irule> jorgezero why dont you just test one?
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| 09:44 | <jammcq> ah, the dreaded Geode
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| 09:44 | <irule> what kind?
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| 09:45 | <jorgezero> kind of what?
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| 09:45 | <irule> problems
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| 09:45 | <Gadi> jorgezero: 8.04.1 solves all geode lx problems
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| 09:45 | <jammcq> all ?
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| 09:45 | <Gadi> all
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| 09:45 | <irule> cool
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| 09:45 | <Gadi> even the hard to reach ones
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| 09:45 | :)
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| 09:45 | <jammcq> is there a difference between 8.04.1 and 8.04 with all updates?
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| 09:45 | <irule> awesome
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| 09:46 | <Gadi> where's ogra when you need him?
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| 09:46 | :)
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| 09:46 | <jorgezero> all the process in boot run well... but it stall when it goes to graph mode
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| 09:46 | <Gadi> jorgezero: try turning off the bootsplash, so you can see what is happening
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| 09:46 | <jorgezero> i do it...
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| 09:47 | but that's nuthing strange... the system simply stop loading...
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> what is the last thing it runs?
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| 09:48 | <jorgezero> let me take the log
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| 09:49 | but it says something abou haven't ipv6 routers... but i know this is normal
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| 09:49 | tring in a VM or other simple desktop it all load perfectly...
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> what is the last message on the screen when it boots?
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| 09:50 | <jorgezero> Jul 15 10:49:15 tcconn kernel: [ 89.739814] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
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| 09:50 | the last line
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| 09:50 | i can pass all the day and nothing changes...
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| 09:50 | <Gadi> on the screen? ah - sounds like maybe the NIC is not supported by any driver
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| 09:51 | what network driver do those clients use?
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| 09:51 | or network chip?
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| 09:51 | <jorgezero> to boot?
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> yes
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| 09:51 | it sounds like the initramfs cannot initialize the network interface
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| 09:51 | <jorgezero> just a moment
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| 09:52 | Realtek
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| 09:52 | but it loads eveything just like the others...
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| 09:52 | <Gadi> obviously not, if it stops booting
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| 09:52 | :)
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| 09:52 | which realtek?
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| 09:53 | <jorgezero> RTL8100C
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| 09:53 | is what is wroten on chip...
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| 09:55 | * Gadi is reading: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538448 | |
| 09:58 | <Gadi> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_RTL8168
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| 09:58 | and that
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| 09:58 | seems that Windows (which you have on your CF card) disables the NIC
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| 09:58 | such that Linux cannot wake it up
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| 09:58 | removing the battery and replacing it seems to reset things
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| 09:58 | along with several other fixes
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| 09:58 | <jammcq> bad... bad windows
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| 09:59 | <jorgezero> the mine is 8139... but i will try...
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| 09:59 | <Gadi> they are the same family
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| 09:59 | <jorgezero> but i take the CF off....
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| 09:59 | <Gadi> and there seem to be other culprits, too
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| 09:59 | yes, but have they *ever* booted into windows?
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| 10:00 | if they have, then Windows will have disabled the NIC
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| 10:00 | <jorgezero> it have some kind of distro inside it... but it is justo to boor citrix and otther protocols...
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| 10:03 | i will tri the 8.04.1
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| 10:08 | <Gadi> jorgezero: 8.04.1 has all the fixes for the Geode LX *video*
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| 10:08 | your problem sounds to me to be with the Network interface
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| 10:08 | not the video
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| 10:09 | I don't think the initramfs is initializing the interface
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| 10:09 | and therefore cannot connect to the server via nbd to get the OS image
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| 10:09 | <jammcq> so, the definition of "all" just changed, eh?
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| 10:09 | <Gadi> if other hardware (real not virtual) works, then the problem lie in that client's network interface
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| 10:10 | <nathy> Hello.
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> if not, then it is your networking that is not setup
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| 10:10 | jammcq: well, its not a geode issue, is it?
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| 10:10 | ;)
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| 10:11 | <jammcq> well....
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| 10:13 | <nathy> I'm using LTSP. I try to access to the server with a VPN Tunnel. I can now download the image from the tftp server and then the thin client will start. But the booting process is stopping at the point "Negotiation". Can anybody help me please.
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| 10:15 | <Gadi> nathy: is port 2000 open in the tunnel?
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| 10:16 | <jorgezero> thanks Gadi... i will try the booth... :]
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> jorgezero: np
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| 10:18 | <nathy_> how can I check that? For what is LTSP using port 2000?
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| 10:20 | <cliebow> nathy, port 200 is for nbdroot..mounting the ltsp imge
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| 10:20 | 2000
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| 10:20 | <epoxy|w3rk> i'm on debian.. it only used NFS correct?
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| 10:21 | <cliebow> epoxy|w3rk, i believe so..
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| 10:21 | <epoxy|w3rk> so.. i dont have to use the rebuild image, etc, etc commands correct? i am reading more and more about them, but i have never had to use them
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| 10:22 | <nathy_> I think in the VPN Tunnel should be all open. Or how can I check that?
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| 10:23 | <Gadi> nathy_: do you have a fat client at the other end of the tunnel to test with?
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| 10:23 | if so, on that client, do: nc -w 5 -z -v -n <ip of server> 2000
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| 10:28 | <epoxy|w3rk> Gadi, what does the -z do? the man says no I/O, so i'm guessing it just looks for the connection and quits
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| 10:28 | * epoxy|w3rk is curious | |
| 10:29 | <Gadi> yeah - its for port-scanning
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| 10:29 | ie, do zero action
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| 10:29 | <nathy_> Answer of "nc -w 5 -z -v -n 192.168.1.110 2000" (UNKNOWN) [192.168.1.110] 2000 (sieve) open
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| 10:29 | <Gadi> well, that's good
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| 10:29 | <epoxy|w3rk> could you not just telnet <host> <port> ?
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| 10:30 | <Gadi> you could do that too
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| 10:30 | <nathy_> gadi: me?
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| 10:30 | <Gadi> nathy_: thats good that it is open
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| 10:30 | what sort of vpn are you using?
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| 10:33 | <nathy_> I'm using IPSec Site-to-site VPN. I also tried the ports 80, 21 and so one, but this ports are closed.
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> well, that could just be because nothing's listening
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| 10:34 | you may not have a web server or ftp server running
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| 10:35 | <nathy_> no
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| 10:35 | <Gadi> let's review the error message you are getting
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| 10:35 | <nathy_> but I think ltsp is using a tftp server
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| 10:35 | which message do you mean?
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| 10:36 | <Gadi> tftp is port 69
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| 10:36 | the last message before it stops booting
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| 10:37 | <nathy_> yes I tried this. but I got the answer: connection refused
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| 10:37 | <Gadi> try adding a "-u"
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| 10:37 | for UDP
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| 10:37 | <nathy_> oh ok. it is open too
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| 10:38 | so do you have an idea, why the process is stopping by the point "Negotiation"
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> Negotiation is usually the nbd client trying to connect to the nbd server
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| 10:39 | does a client work when not used through the vpn tunnel?
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| 10:39 | <nathy_> sorry I don't understand your question.
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| 10:40 | <Gadi> if you connect a client to the same network as the server and not setup a vpn between them, does it work?
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| 10:40 | <Gadi> I want to rule out a misconfiguration in LTSP first
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| 10:40 | before adding the VPN tunnel
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| 10:40 | <nathy_> yes then it works
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| 10:41 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 10:41 | then, I am not sure
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| 10:42 | nathy_: did you have to setup anything on the fat client to make the tunnel?
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| 10:42 | or is the tunnel on a separate appliance?
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| 10:43 | <nathy_> the tunnel is on a seperate appliance and the tunnel is up.
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| 10:44 | First of all I had a problem with the blocksize. The Blocksize in the tftp server was too long for the vpn and so I could not copy the image. Then I set the blocksize to 1248 and after that I could copy the image. But now I can not boot.
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| 10:44 | <Gadi> perhaps you have to mod the blocksize for nbd as well
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| 10:45 | <nathy_> but how can I do that? the client is downloading the image and after that the client directly tries to boot
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| 10:45 | or is the nbd a seperate server?
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| 10:47 | <Gadi> nbd is a separate server
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| 10:48 | <nathy_> and you mean I shoult set the blocksize for the ndb server?
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| 10:49 | <Gadi> well, Im not sure if you adjust it in nbdserver or in the tcp-wrappers stuff (hosts.allow)
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| 10:55 | <nathy_> you mean the blocksize? I set the blocksize in /etc/default/tftp-hpa
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> that was to set it in tftpd
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| 11:02 | now, you may need to set it for nbd
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| 11:02 | nbd = Network *Block* Device
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| 11:03 | surely it gets written to with a particular block size
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| 11:03 | question is, where to set it
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| 11:03 | ah
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| 11:04 | <nathy_> that was also the question I would ask you.
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| 11:04 | <Gadi> looks like you need to set it in nbd-client
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| 11:04 | see:
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| 11:04 | http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:7GsvvM2cVlMJ:www.linuxcertif.com/man/8/nbd-client/+man+nbd-client&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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| 11:04 | which is called in the initramfs
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| 11:04 | here:
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| 11:04 | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp-nbd
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| 11:05 | so, modify the nbd-client line to be: nbd-client bs=<blah>
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| 11:05 | ...
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| 11:05 | and then, reroll the initramfs with:
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| 11:05 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 update-initramfs -u
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| 11:05 | sudo ltsp-update-kernels
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| 11:05 | and see if that fixes it
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| 11:17 | <nathy_> I changed the following 2 lines: 1) nbd-client ${NBD_ROOT_SERVER} ${NBD_ROOT_PORT} /dev/nbd0 && mount -o ro -t squashfs /dev/nbd0 /rofs to nbd-client bs=1248 ${NBD_ROOT_SERVER} ${NBD_ROOT_PORT} /dev/nbd0 && mount -o ro -t squashfs /dev/nbd0 /rofs 2) nbd-client ${NBD_SWAP_SERVER} ${NBD_SWAP_PORT} /dev/nbd1 || true to nbd-client bs=1248 ${NBD_SWAP_SERVE
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| 11:17 | R} ${NBD_SWAP_PORT} /dev/nbd1 || true
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| 11:17 | but again the same problem
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| 11:19 | <Gadi> you cannot do 1248
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| 11:19 | look at the man page again
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| 11:19 | Use a blocksize of "blocksize". Default is 1024; allowed values are either 512, 1024, 2048 or 4096
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| 11:19 | <nathy_> ok I will try 1024
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| 11:19 | <Gadi> thats the default
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| 11:20 | I would try 2048
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| 11:20 | or 4096
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| 11:20 | <nathy_> ok I will try
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| 11:20 | but in the tftp-hpa the default is 1500 and I must set a slower one
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| 11:21 | <Gadi> ah, so try 512
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| 11:21 | its not slower, its smaller
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| 11:22 | <nathy_> ok. I'm sorry for my English
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> np - I didnt mean to correct the english - only the understanding
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| 11:23 | :)
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| 11:30 | <nathy_> now I tried this again with 512. Unfortunately the same problem again.
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| 11:32 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 11:32 | on the fat client, can you try running the nbd-client command?
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| 11:34 | <nathy_> can you please tell me how I should do that?
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| 11:34 | <Gadi> nbd-client ${NBD_ROOT_SERVER} ${NBD_ROOT_PORT} /dev/nbd0
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| 11:34 | where NBD_ROOT_SERVER is the server IP
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| 11:34 | and NBD_ROOT_PORT is 2000
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| 11:34 | so, on the fat client, do:
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| 11:34 | sudo modprobe nbd
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| 11:35 | sudo nbd-client 192.168.1.110 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 11:36 | * Gadi assumes you are using ubuntu/debian | |
| 11:36 | * Gadi further assumes that you install nbd-client | |
| 11:36 | <Gadi> on the fat client
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| 11:38 | bbiab - need to grab some lunch
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| 11:39 | <nathy_> I installed the nbd-client and now I tried sudo modprobe nbd and then sudo nbd-client 192.168.1.110 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 11:45 | I will be back in 15min.
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| 13:01 | <warren> Gadi: jammcq, ogra: when is everyone arriving in portland? I need to know if I should plan on eating with other people on the night of the 24th or not.
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| 13:01 | <Gadi> I'll be there, Go dwilling - and a cheap date for dinner (unless you count the beer tab)
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| 13:02 | <warren> haha
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| 13:03 | Gadi: I'm thinking to eat at this great Lebanese restaurant on the night of the 24th. Do those restaurants have compatible dietary restrictions? I dunno.
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| 13:03 | <Gadi> 'fraid not
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| 13:03 | though if its anything like Syrian food, it should be yummy
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| 13:04 | for you
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| 13:04 | just make sure they have beer
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| 13:04 | <warren> similar yes
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| 13:04 | <Gadi> from somewhere other than Lebanon
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| 13:04 | ;)
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| 13:04 | <warren> heh? =)
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| 13:04 | <japerry> Gadi: I'll be there as well
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> (they aren't known for beer so much)
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| 13:05 | <japerry> following right after oscon
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| 13:10 | <Gadi> japerry: cool
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| 13:10 | so far, table for 3
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| 13:10 | :)
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| 13:35 | <jammcq> lebanese on the 24th? sounds good
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| 13:36 | <jammcq> how about brazilian on the 25th?
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| 13:40 | * Gadi is washing his hair on the 25th | |
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| 13:50 | <jammcq> Gadi: hmm, good point. I should wash mine that day too.
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| 13:51 | <warren> jammcq: how many people will we have though? this place isn't big.
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| 13:51 | <jammcq> seems like about 14
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| 13:51 | last time I counted, assuming everybody shows up who said they'll show up
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| 13:54 | I think we'll have more people on friday than any other day
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| 13:54 | there's a few people lingering from oscon that don't head home until saturday
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| 14:01 | <warren> hm, this restaurant definitely can't handle 14
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| 14:02 | <cliebow> jmmcq lwys comes up with the "Brazilian anyone?? Churascwht?
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| 14:03 | where is my A key??
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| 14:07 | aaaaa
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| 14:08 | <dberkholz> jammcq et al: might be a couple of the pdx X folks around too, not really sure
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| 14:09 | <jammcq> i'll ping keithp, he always enjoys a nice brazilian meal
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| 14:09 | <dberkholz> i already emailed our local X devs alias, he probably saw. but didn't mention the cousine
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| 14:09 | cuisine, rather
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| 14:38 | <cliebow> cliebow enjoys a Brazilian meal as well ;-]
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| 14:42 | <warren> wow, that was almost understandable
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| 14:45 | * vagrantc notices the hackfest starts in 10 days | |
| 14:45 | <Gadi> thats even before the Olympic Games
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| 14:45 | * jammcq thinks we should pick a spot to meet up on thursday night | |
| 14:46 | <jammcq> maybe the lucky lab
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| 14:46 | <Gadi> whoa
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| 14:46 | * Gadi looks around for his wife | |
| 14:46 | <jammcq> I think we arrive at about 7:30pm or so
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| 14:46 | Gadi: is she missing?
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| 14:46 | or did you simply misplace her?
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| 14:46 | <vagrantc> so, basically all day friday (the 25th), saturday and sunday is the meat of the hackfest, right? anyone who wants to stick around for monday the 28th is also welcome...
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| 14:47 | <Gadi> no - just making sure she's not here if we start talking about meeting at the "lucky lab"
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| 14:47 | mmm... hackfest... meat ... stick....
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| 14:47 | sounds brazillian
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| 14:48 | <jammcq> why do you think i'm going?
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| 14:48 | <vagrantc> i was thinking of getting a catering order of thai food for one of the lunches and/or dinners ...
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| 14:48 | <jammcq> vagrantc: that's fine, so long as we have an alternative for those of us who can't handle the spicy stuff
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> jammcq is not as young as he was last year
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| 14:49 | :)
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| 14:52 | <vagrantc> jammcq: we can get it not so spicy
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| 14:52 | <jammcq> umm, i've tried that with indian food. no go for me
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| 14:53 | so the best thing is, get it as spicy as you all want. I'll deal with my own issues.
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| 14:53 | <Gadi> jammcq: I'll share my sandwich with you :)
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| 14:53 | <cliebow> and the bber
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| 14:53 | <jammcq> yummm
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| 14:53 | <Gadi> and whatever else I pack in my lunchbox
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| 14:53 | <cliebow> Balls!
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| 15:00 | <lejo> guys, is there still something I need to do to get my numlock patch merged?
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| 15:04 | <Gadi> lejo: is this the LDM_NUMLOCK one?
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| 15:04 | <lejo> yes
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| 15:06 | * Gadi thinks warren, vagrantc, and ogra should look at it and give thumbs up | |
| 15:06 | <Gadi> but, since warren already added the keyboard stuff in, I don't see a problem with adding numlock in too
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| 15:06 | other than the dependence on numlockx
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| 15:07 | which is currently in "universe"
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| 15:07 | on Ubuntu
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| 15:07 | <lejo> right, but I check if it's installed so if it's not available it should not cause big problems...
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| 15:07 | <Gadi> prolly be better if you could enable numlock without it
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| 15:08 | right
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| 15:08 | <lejo> yes but my knowlegde is to limited for that, maybe warren has an idea on how to do that
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| 15:08 | I could check the numlockx source
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| 15:08 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 15:08 | I doubt the distros want something in there that wouldnt work by default
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| 15:08 | even when enabled
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| 15:08 | :)
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| 15:09 | if you can make it numlockx-independent, I think it would be easier to accept/digest
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| 15:24 | <delly84> hey all, i am wondering how to go about displaying a boot menu upon a client's startup, prompting the user which image they would like to load (windblows, local, netboot, etc)
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| 15:24 | should i do this in the grub mbr?
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| 15:24 | on the local partition?
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| 15:24 | or would this be better suited as a menu type setup in pxe?
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| 15:25 | I am pretty confused how this might be done
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| 15:26 | <ogra> Gadi, i want a unified functuon to do the final call that both, numlockx and setxkb can use ... we should look into that next week
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| 15:26 | beyond that i'm fine with the patch
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| 15:27 | <delly84> could someone point me in the right direction?
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| 15:35 | <Gadi> ogra: ur fine with it, even tho it calls a program that will never be in the default chroot?
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| 15:35 | to me, thats broken
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| 15:36 | (part of my same gripe with shipping an rdesktop screen script by default, but hey)
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| 15:36 | <jammcq> delly84: seems like a grub menu thing. asking a bootrom to go ahead and do a disk boot can be tricky.
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| 15:38 | <delly84> jammcq: is that in local grub then?
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| 15:38 | <jammcq> umm, that's the only grub I know of
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| 15:39 | <delly84> jammcq: well, can't you can pass a grub menu with pxe?
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| 15:39 | <jammcq> ummm, no. you could do a pxelinux menu, but that's different
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| 15:39 | and I don't know if the Pxe bootrom can handle booting from disk
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| 15:40 | <delly84> yeah, that is what I thought
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| 15:40 | do you know how i would setup grub to do this?
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| 15:41 | <jammcq> I've done it with Etherboot but not PXE
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| 15:41 | that's why i'm not sure the pxe bootrom can handle it
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| 15:41 | and I know the Etherboot guys had some issues with getting some chipsets to see the local hard disk
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| 15:42 | <delly84> how did you set it up with etherboot?
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| 15:43 | <Gadi> er, if you're pxe-booting, do it in the pxeboot menu
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| 15:43 | <jammcq> when I compiled Etherboot, there's an option to cause a question to appear asking if you wanted to boot from the net or locally
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| 15:44 | then, if you choose local, it would read the bootloader from the harddisk, in which case, if you had Windows and Linux, you'd get the grub/lilo menu
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| 15:45 | <Gadi> use the force of pxelinux, Luke
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| 15:47 | <delly84> Gadi: any good resources? I am pretty sure i am pxe booting. is this something where i am going to have to recompile pxe?
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| 15:47 | <Gadi> no not at all
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| 15:47 | <Gadi> you just need to modify your: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file
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| 15:47 | and add more menu entries and such
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| 15:48 | http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup/Menus
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| 15:48 | first link on google for me
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| 15:48 | pxelinux is in the syslinux, isolinux family
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| 15:48 | so the cfg is the same syntax
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| 15:49 | for Windows, you need to use the chainloader
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| 15:49 | (as with grub)
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| 15:49 | just be careful if you ever run ltsp-update-image, as it may overwrite that file - so make a backup
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| 15:49 | :)
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| 15:55 | <delly84> Gadi: Gotcha, thanks for the help
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| 15:55 | <vagrantc> well, if you modify /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ... it will get overwritten next time you run ltsp-update-kernels
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| 15:55 | i'd recommend setting up /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux* instead
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| 15:56 | <delly84> vagrantc: for some reason the last time i ran ltsp-update-kernels, i messed up my fat client setup
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| 15:56 | <vagrantc> and then configuring you clients to get that...
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| 15:56 | delly84: that *might* be why.
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| 15:57 | <delly84> vagrantc: no i mean from a clean install, some edits, and then ltsp-update-kernels
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| 15:57 | <lejo> Gadi: this code works without numlockx: http://pastebin.be/12819
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| 15:58 | <vagrantc> delly84: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default will get overwritten every time you run ltsp-update-kernels, so if you depended on modifications to that, then it will break whatever you did.
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| 15:58 | <delly84> i see
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| 15:59 | <vagrantc> delly84: so i would recommend using a different location for your pxelinux stuff, and configuring dhcp to tell it to use a different pxelinux file ... though that may cause other issues as well.
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| 16:00 | <delly84> ok, i will give that a try.
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| 16:00 | thank you all for the help
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| 16:02 | * delly84 is off to iowa | |
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| 16:02 | <vagrantc> must've scared 'em good.
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| 16:03 | fleeing to iowa like that.
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| 16:04 | <Gadi> lejo: much better
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| 16:04 | I think
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| 16:04 | great job!
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| 16:04 | gotta run
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| 16:06 | <lejo> i'll try to merge it into my patch tomorrow
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| 16:52 | <opapo> I am looking for a way to boot a powerpc machine over the network with ltsp
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| 16:53 | I have seen multiple sites, but none that help me get past the boot portion
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| 16:57 | <vagrantc> well, you'll have to build a powerpc environment first...
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| 16:58 | with ltsp5, that typically means installing an ltsp powerpc environment from a powerpc machine ... and then you can copy that environment over to a new server
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| 16:59 | <Nubae> hey... how hard do u guys think it would be to have sugar gui for ltsp thin terminals?
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| 17:00 | <stgraber> depends how well it works on desktop computers :)
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| 17:01 | <Nubae> heh... see no problems there, but replacing gnome for it, wouldnt I have to mess around with the thin client chroot?
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| 17:01 | <stgraber> depends, do you want it installed in the chroot (as fat client) or to be run on the server instead of gnome ?
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| 17:08 | <opapo> vagrantc: I am using ubuntu dapper powerpc on the server and client
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| 17:08 | <vagrantc> Nubae1: shouldn't be harder than any other desktop
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| 17:08 | <opapo> both are 900MHz iBooks
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> dapper's LTSP is looking a little old, these days...
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| 17:09 | <Nubae1> how much do tweaking u think the thin chroot needs?
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> Nubae1: with thin clients, or fat clients?
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| 17:09 | <Nubae1> thin
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| 17:09 | <opapo> vagrantc: I can't install hardy which I would like
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| 17:10 | and that is the last lts
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> Nubae1: probably no changes to the chroot.
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| 17:10 | Nubae1: unless it does something really weird ...
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| 23:48 | <kgoetz> hi all. can i connect to an ltsp server in a similar way to Xnest? eg, i want to connect to the server as a GUI running client, but in a window
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| 23:58 | <cyberorg> kgoetz, ssh -X serverip /path/to/Xsession
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| 23:59 | you'll not get local devices and other LDM goodies though
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