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Channel log from 21 February 2021 (all times are UTC)
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| 19:37 | <Peter_Monkberry> Hello all
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| 19:39 | Alkis, I've narrowed down the pattern that stops the epoptes from turning on a client and it affects wakeonlan as well
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| 19:43 | It appears to be affecting/caused by the vlans. With the old ltsp server that was running dhcp, even the clients that were on the 172.16.11.* side of the lan, did not get an address of that mask but rather the address of 172.16.10.*, which is where the ltsp server lived. This was done simply with the next-server option. Now, it would appear that
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| 19:43 | any client that does NOT get an address of 172.16.10.* but rather one of 172.16.11.*, they boot and work fine in ltsp however they cannot be (started) via epoptes or wakeonlan command, no matter which side of the fence runs that command. They can however, still be turned off or rebooted.
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> Peter_Monkberry: if you don't need vlans, I think it would be much easier to just get rid of them :D
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| 19:51 | It's possible to have a pc on another vlan, forward magic packets
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| 20:13 | You could also get a second ip to the epoptes-pc, on the other vlan, so that it can wake pcs on both vlans
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| 20:27 | <Peter_Monkberry> I would love to get rid of the vlans but that would be a ton of work
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| 20:27 | Can you explain those other 2 options?
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| 20:28 | I did read somewhere about forwarding the magic packets
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| 20:28 | this second IP, as in add a virtual IP address to the box via netplan?
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| 21:09 | <alkisg> Peter_Monkberry: you can increase the existing subnet without changing the existing ips
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| 21:09 | The second ip would be eth0.1
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| 21:09 | That .1 is vlan1
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| 21:09 | (or eth0.2, etc)
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| 21:09 | It can be configured with /etc/network/interfaces, or with network-manager etc
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| 21:09 | Sure, netplan should also do it, but personally I just uninstall that :D
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| 21:10 | I don't touch netplan and snap :D
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| 21:17 | <Peter_Monkberry> I agree. I try to go with what is the latest, just to learn (netplan vs network-manager). I do get annoyed though when they end up changing stuff that just works
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| 21:18 | I'm not sure I understand the thinking here though. Am I trying to set the ltsp side of the vlan to have an IP that is inside the other vlan?
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| 21:36 | <alkisg> Peter_Monkberry: netplan isn't the "latest", it's just a dummy wrapper that uses network manager OR systemd-networkd
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| 21:36 | It doesn't have its own implementation of networking
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| 21:36 | I've no idea why ubuntu went for this, instead of adopting one of the other formats for their infrastructure
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| 21:36 | <Peter_Monkberry> whatever it is, it's another layer to deal with
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| 21:36 | <alkisg> Yes, that's why I uninstall it
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| 21:36 | Same as upstart, unity, bzr etc
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| 21:36 | :)
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| 21:36 | <Peter_Monkberry> stuff like that takes me back to my fedora days lol
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| 21:37 | totally agree
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| 21:43 | It would appear to be 11:42pm over in Greece, so I'll leave ya be. Thanks
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| 21:48 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you could try debian, it has both netplan and snapd preuninstalled :)
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| 21:55 | <alkisg> vagrantc++ :D
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| 21:55 | I'll do that later on, it has some quirks to be resolved first
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| 21:55 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 21:55 | <alkisg> Like, no greek chars :)
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| 21:56 | <vagrantc> huh.
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| 21:56 | too many english-fluent debian developers, i guess :)
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| 21:57 | not that i have any skill to resolve it, but curoious what the nature of the issue is... missing fonts? the greek characters are all in UTF-8 i would imagine, no?
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| 21:57 | <alkisg> It's mainly because of gnome, which uses cantarell, which doesn't have greek glyphs
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| 21:58 | I filed some bug for dejavu or something, I think, years ago
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| 21:58 | gotta go, back later!
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| 21:58 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 22:24 | <Peter_Monkberry> I figured out what I can do easily. Thank you!
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