00:05 | <vagrantc> ||cw: ltsp-pnp is not tied to NFS or NBD
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00:05 | ||cw: debian uses NFS by default, ubuntu uses NBD by default, either can use either
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00:06 | er, rather
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00:06 | actually, er, ltsp-pnp *only* works with NBD.
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00:06 | since there's no chroot to export
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00:09 | and some things get removed in order to support ltsp-pnp
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00:09 | i need to update the debian wiki with the ltsp-pnp stuff
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04:42 | <vicd> Hi, All! Sorry for my english. The problem sounds like: Exported device is too big for me. On client boot.
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04:42 | From busybox works: nbd-client 10.0.0.4 -N quantal /dev/nbd0
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04:42 | and gives the same error (Exported device is too big for me): nbd-client 10.0.0.4 -N name /dev/nbd0, where 'name' - any name that do not exists in /etc/nbd-server/config
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04:46 | <work_alkisg> vicd: what's the output of this command? egrep -rv '^#|^$' /etc/nbd-server/
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04:47 | <vicd> /etc/nbd-server/config:[generic]
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: # The [generic] section is required, even if nothing is specified
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: # there.
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: # When either of these options are specified, nbd-server drops
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: # privileges to the given user and group after opening ports, but
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: # _before_ opening files.
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: user = nobody
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: group = nobody
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: oldstyle = true
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config:[oneiric]
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: exportname = /srv/ltsp/oneiric.img/i386.img
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: port = 2001
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config: readonly = true
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04:47 | /etc/nbd-server/config:[quantal]
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04:48 | by the way oneiric works OK
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04:48 | <alkisg> quantal is empty?
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04:48 | <vicd> what you meen?
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04:49 | <alkisg> (06:47:44 πμ) vicd: /etc/nbd-server/config:[quantal]
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04:50 | That was the last line you pasted
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04:50 | If you don't have anything under that one, then that section is empty
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04:50 | <vicd> (10:47:39) vicd: /etc/nbd-server/config: exportname = /srv/ltsp/quantal.img/i386.img
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04:50 | (10:47:39) vicd: /etc/nbd-server/config: port = 2003
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04:50 | (10:47:39) vicd: /etc/nbd-server/config: readonly = true
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04:50 | <alkisg> vicd: what is your server distro/version?
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04:51 | <vicd> server opensuse 12.2
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04:51 | <alkisg> You are mixing named and port-based nbd exports
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04:51 | <vicd> also i have config in /etc/xinit.d
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04:52 | <alkisg> E.g. a quantal chroot would default to connecting to a name-based export of nbd-server, at its IANA assigned port of 10809
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04:52 | <vicd> yes, mixing, and for oneiric in works
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04:53 | <alkisg> In other words, you shouldn't have "oldstyle" and "port" for quantal, and nbd-server should be listening on 10809
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04:53 | Oneiric uses port-based exports
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04:53 | That's the old method
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04:53 | <vicd> remove port option&
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04:53 | <alkisg> nbd-client server-ip -N name ==> that means port 10809
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04:53 | If you want a specific port, don't specify the -N name
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04:55 | <vicd> but nbd-client 10.0.0.4 -N quantal /dev/nbd0 works
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04:55 | do not work at startup
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04:56 | <alkisg> vicd: from the client: cat /proc/cmdline
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05:00 | <vicd> ro initrd=initrd.img-xxx root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp nbdname=quantal ipv6.disable=1 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-xxx
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05:01 | sorry
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05:01 | one moment
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05:02 | <alkisg> Try: nbdroot=:quantal
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05:02 | (in your pxelinux.cfg/default)
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05:04 | Basically you might want to specify the following, so that you have a standard configuration:
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05:05 | /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_quantal.conf:[/opt/ltsp/quantal]
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05:05 | /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_quantal.conf:exportname = /opt/ltsp/images/quantal.img
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05:05 | /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_quantal.conf:readonly = true
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05:05 | ...and in pxelinux.cfg, nbdroot=/opt/ltsp/quantal
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05:06 | <vicd> with "nbdroot=:quantal" error persists, but client goes far
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05:08 | <alkisg> vicd: for :quantal, you need to change your nbd-server config too
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05:08 | (06:47:44 πμ) vicd: /etc/nbd-server/config:[quantal]
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05:08 | should become:
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05:08 | (06:47:44 πμ) vicd: /etc/nbd-server/config:[:quantal]
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05:09 | And nbd-server restarted
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05:09 | <vicd> and it has x11 problem, i will try another client
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05:09 | <alkisg> Ah ok
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05:09 | If it goes that far, you're done with the nbd problem
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05:10 | <vicd> another client boots ok
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05:11 | big thanks for halp
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05:12 | help ^)
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05:30 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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06:48 | <pl_> Hi
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06:49 | Anybody know how the fat-client home directory mount mechanism work ?
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07:37 | <Ukir1> hai, how to use repository from DVD disc while ltsp-build-client ?
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07:41 | <work_alkisg> Which distro/version/disk?
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07:44 | <Ukir1> centos 6.3, ltsp-server-5.2.17-1.el6.i686
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07:45 | * alkisg has never used centos, no idea, sorry | |
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07:50 | <Ukir1> thanks, i'll use dialup internet connection anyway
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15:03 | <zamba> how can i fix the lock on the screensaver for my TCs?
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15:05 | <Hyperbyte> zamba, how did you end up with a screensaver on your thin client?
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15:05 | This shouldn't be happening, it is disabled by LTSP by default.
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15:06 | <zamba> hm, ok
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15:06 | is there a way i can look into a TC session?
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15:07 | i'm running LTSP remotely and i need to take a look at what's happening at that location
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15:11 | <zamba> my users are describing problems and i have no way of helping them, as i can't see what they're seeing
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15:17 | <andygraybeal_> zamba, i know alkisg can do this, he's done it with me.
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15:18 | i don't know how he does it though :)
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15:18 | i'm sure others can explain it here in the channel, so there is hope.
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15:18 | <zamba> good, good, i'll just wait for the ultimate answer :)
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15:19 | <andygraybeal_> oh i think he made an app for it....
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15:19 | yea, ihaven't tried it tyet
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15:19 | i need to though
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15:19 | <Hyperbyte> zamba, ultimate answer:
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15:19 | !epoptes
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15:19 | <ltsp> epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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15:19 | <andygraybeal_> yay Hyperbyte :)
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15:20 | <Hyperbyte> You'd need to install it though, you can't do it -right now-
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15:20 | For immediate access there was another trick....
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15:20 | <andygraybeal_> yea, that's what he did with me
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15:20 | he was like.. ya this long string of gook and bam he's on my computer
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15:20 | i was like.. holy shit
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15:21 | <Hyperbyte> Yeah, he uses reverse VNC connections
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15:21 | <zamba> yeah, i've seen that
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15:21 | <Hyperbyte> I think
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15:21 | <zamba> i know he did the same with screen
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15:22 | <Hyperbyte> So, either install epoptes so you can manage them in the future
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15:22 | Or use reverse VNC. :)
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15:22 | <zamba> for just ssh sessions, thought
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15:22 | right now i'm interested in the reverse VNC thingy :)
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15:22 | i guess epoptes is the successor of italc?
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15:22 | <andygraybeal_> yea, that's what i understand
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15:22 | <Hyperbyte> zamba, yes, it is.
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15:23 | Wait no
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15:23 | Sorry
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15:23 | epoptes is the successor of sch-scripts or something... whatever he called it
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15:23 | <zamba> yeah
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15:23 | <Hyperbyte> iTalc and epoptes are not related
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15:23 | <zamba> but it's more or less the same as italc
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15:23 | same features, i guess
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15:24 | <Hyperbyte> iTalc runs on Windows, I don't think epoptes does that
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15:24 | epoptes was designed with LTSP in mind though, so if you're running LTSP and need a monitor tool, I guess epoptes would be your best choice.
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15:25 | <zamba> well.. i'm not sure where to install the server
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15:25 | because i want to have a "movable" monitor station
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15:25 | # epoptes-client -c
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15:25 | connect: Connection refused
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15:25 | connect:errno=111
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15:25 | epoptes-client ERROR: Failed to fetch certificate from localhost:789
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15:26 | i guess i need alkisg for this
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15:26 | because i don't really want the server to be installed on the tc server
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17:53 | <alkisg> zamba: for flexible monitoring of ltsp clients, you may install epoptes on the ltsp server, and then use x2go to connect to the ltsp server from wherever, e.g. windows PCs over ADSL connections
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18:27 | <ltspuser_28> Hi any buddy thier
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18:27 | i am newbie to thin client stuff and needed some help
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18:29 | needed help with regard to choosing the hardware
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18:29 | for testing thin client
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18:30 | and my application is running a media player and video conference
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18:30 | any help
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18:36 | <elias_a> ltspuser_28: What kind of video content and what kind of video conference?
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20:10 | <mgariepy> stgraber, feeling like SRUing stuff for LTSP in precise ?
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20:31 | <nfh> Hello,
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20:33 | <nfh> did anyone start a ltsp terminal client on raspberry pi?
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20:36 | <zamba> alkisg: ah, ok
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20:40 | <knipwim> nfh: not start yet
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20:40 | nfh: but working on it
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20:45 | <zamba> alkisg: i install x2go on the ltsp server?
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20:45 | <alkisg> Yup
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20:45 | <zamba> alkisg: but how do i set up the reverse vnc connection that everyone in here is talkinga about?
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20:45 | <alkisg> zamba: you don't need that, do you?
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20:45 | Epoptes will do reverse connections for the clients
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20:45 | You'll do a forward connection to connect to your ltsp server
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20:46 | The reverse connection trick is useful for remote support, so that the person that needs support doesn't have to do port forward etc
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20:46 | <zamba> this is a bit of a touch and go, since i've never used either epoptes or x2go
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20:46 | <alkisg> But when some sysadmin wants to access his own server, forward connections are just fine, unless he too has restrictions on port forwarding
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20:46 | <zamba> x2go is not in any repos
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20:47 | <alkisg> https://launchpad.net/~x2go/+archive/stable
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20:48 | Basic question before you start: "can you currently ssh to your server?"
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20:48 | If you can, then x2go+epoptes will be a piece of cake
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20:48 | <zamba> yup
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20:49 | this is me
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20:49 | nothing is piece of cake for me
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20:49 | i have my own paragraph in murphy's law
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21:47 | <Hyperbyte> zamba, don't be so glum. :P
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22:24 | <zamba> hehe
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22:27 | <zamba> x2go doesn't work
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22:28 | is there something i'm missing?
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22:29 | trying to connect using the x2goclient
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22:29 | from windows
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22:29 | it says connecting
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22:30 | and i get a new black window with X2GO in the background
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22:30 | and it's stuck there
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22:31 | and then: "No response received from the remote server. Do you want to terminate the current session?"
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22:32 | <[conrad]> I'm using LTSP as outlined via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp . I'm running into an issue, where it seems no matter what I do, the thin clients connecting to the LTSP server are not properly pulling in DNS information. Thin client users are not available to sudo commands to modify resolv files, though we wouldn't want to do that anyway. We've tried modifying lts.conf using DNS_SERVER as outlined in the link I s
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22:32 | upplied, as well as the dnsmasq modifications outlined in the link, and nothing seems to be working. Again, the thin clients all boot up and function properly otherwise. Any ideas?
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22:35 | <zamba> "Warning: No data received from remote proxy within 30 seconds."
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22:35 | as i said.. murphy
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22:38 | <vagrantc> [conrad]: search for issues with resolvconf
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22:38 | !resolvconf
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22:38 | <ltsp> Error: "resolvconf" is not a valid command.
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22:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg might know more
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22:40 | <alkisg> [conrad]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp#DNS_issues
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22:40 | Do the "alternative way" there
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22:40 | Unfortunately Ubuntu chose to do a very bad implementation of local dns resolving, using dnsmasq as a library while hooking the reserved port 53
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22:41 | So when one installs a desktop system, he cannot install a dns server without telling network-manager to stop the local resolver hack
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22:42 | zamba: try from an ubuntu client first, to check if it's a server or client problem
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22:42 | <[conrad]> alkisg: As mentioned in my original post, I tried both items in that link.
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22:43 | <zamba> alkisg: k
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22:43 | <alkisg> [conrad]: sorry I read too fast. So, the dns on your server also doesn't work, right?
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22:43 | E.g. if you ssh to your server, or if you login locally (if it isn't headless), you don't have a working dns. Correct?
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22:44 | <[conrad]> alkisg: Not the case. The server itself has full access to the internet.
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22:44 | <alkisg> [conrad]: that doesn't make any sense though... you said "thin" clients, not "fat", right?
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22:44 | Or they're fat?
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22:45 | "Thin client users are not available to sudo commands to modify resolv file" ==> yup sounds like they're fat
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22:45 | So, back to lts.conf + DNS_SERVER
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22:45 | 1) Verify that they're fat: open a terminal and see the hostname
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22:46 | If it's ltsp123, they're fat. If it's the server hostname, they're thin.
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22:46 | 2) Get a local client shell and run `getltscfg -a`, to check that your lts.conf settings actually reach the client and are parsed correctly. For example,
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22:46 | !screen_02
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22:46 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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22:47 | <[conrad]> alkisg: It does appear they're fat ( by the hostname you provided ). The devices themselves are of minimal resources, and that link from Ubuntu doesn't show "ltsp-update-image --cleanup /" command as being specific for thin nor fat.
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22:48 | <alkisg> Clients with >400 RAM become fats automatically
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22:48 | If you want to force them to be thins, you can put LTSP_FATCLIENT=False
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22:48 | But if you only wanted thins, then why use the ltsp-pnp method?
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22:48 | <zamba> alkisg: http://pastie.org/5450209
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22:48 | alkisg: seems to be a server problem
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22:48 | <alkisg> [conrad]: That method mainly targets fat labs, or at least mixed fat + thin labs
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22:49 | zamba: 3d sessions won't run without 3d acceleration
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22:49 | Try gnome-fallback or unity-2d etc
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22:49 | <zamba> well.. i've tried with gnome as well
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22:49 | <[conrad]> alkisg: We already have a DHCP server on the server, and when I came in yesterday inquiring on a guide/link for that specific setup, I was provided the link.
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22:49 | <zamba> alkisg: no option for that?
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22:50 | <alkisg> [conrad]: ah, you were misguided then, the dhcp setup is unrelated to the "no chroot == ltsp-pnp" method
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22:50 | <zamba> unity, kde, gnome, xfce and so on
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22:51 | <alkisg> [conrad]: for the dhcp part, you have 2 options, either change your existing dhcp server to offer the boot filename + next server, or use a proxydhcp (ltsp-pnp does the second one, but you don't want its no-chroot part though)
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22:51 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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22:51 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
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22:52 | [conrad]: ltsp-pnp can work with thin clients too though. It just takes a bit more time to generate the image
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22:52 | So, for a quick solution, try LTSP_FATCLIENT=False in lts.conf
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22:53 | zamba: do you have gnome-fallback or unity-2d installed? Which version of ubuntu is this?
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22:54 | <zamba> i'm trying gnome-session-fallback now
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22:54 | *sigh*
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22:55 | well.. i now got four small new windows
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22:55 | i'm trying just gnome now
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22:56 | http://pastie.org/5450234
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22:57 | stupid
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22:57 | <[conrad]> alkisg: Tried that. Doesn't seem to work. But did confirm with a VM with 256MB that everything works as expected.
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22:57 | <zamba> as i said.. everything that works for everyone else will break for me without reason
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22:58 | <alkisg> [conrad]: it sounds like your lts.conf doesn't apply to your clients
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22:58 | Paste its contents first to pastebin
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22:58 | <zamba> alkisg: i tried single application and then /usr/bin/gnome-session-fallback
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22:58 | <alkisg> zamba: or try single application + xterm
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22:58 | And then try fallback from the xterm window
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22:59 | <zamba> nope
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22:59 | Nov 28 23:58:14 thinny /usr/bin/x2gostartagent: successfully started X2Go agent session with ID marius-66-1354143492_stRTERMINAL_dp24
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22:59 | Nov 28 23:58:22 thinny /usr/bin/x2gomountdirs[17127]: WARNING: mounting of /home/marius/.x2go/S-marius-66-1354143492_stRTERMINAL_dp24/spool failed
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22:59 | <[conrad]> alkisg: Seems you might be right. Even though I've only created 64-bit images, and have 64-bit clients running, I see the following message in the server's syslog "Nov 28 17:55:59 vm-rdp1 dnsmasq-tftp[2974]: file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf not found". Will pastebin full contents shortly.
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23:01 | alkisg: http://pastebin.com/JH8673c2
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23:02 | Actually, the thin client gets the same error.
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23:02 | <alkisg> [conrad]: and, the output of `ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf` ?
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23:03 | zamba: in the x2go session properties dialog, try disabling print support
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23:04 | <zamba> trying that now
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23:04 | <zamba> alkisg: nah
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23:05 | <alkisg> zamba: and that's from a linux client?
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23:05 | <zamba> yup
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23:05 | client installed from the same ppa as the server
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23:05 | <alkisg> zamba: type: /j murphy
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23:05 | :P :D
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23:05 | */nick, sorry
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23:06 | It's late here though, 'night all...
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23:06 | <zamba> :(
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23:06 | i've fucking had it
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23:06 | <alkisg> (there's an x2go mailing list)
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23:06 | <zamba> so tired of stuff not working
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23:06 | stuff NEVER, ever works for me
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23:06 | i have to spend hours and hours debugging every single little thing
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23:07 | * alkisg hopes epoptes will at least work out of the box for zamba... epoptes.org/installation | |
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23:07 | <zamba> i can pretty much guarantee you it won't
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