IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 17 April 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:32 | is someone there
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| 04:32 | am i alone here?
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| 04:33 | il
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| 19:48 | <quinox> aren't we all alone here?
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| 19:55 | * alkisg_web has company... :) | |
| 20:10 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 20:56 | <alkisg_web> Hey vagrantc
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| 21:27 | <vagrantc> i managed to get a proof of concept replacement for ltsp-build-client using propellor ...
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| 21:27 | but i think the dependencies for propellor are a bit steep
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| 21:27 | and there were some uglinesses to setup i wasn't fond of
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| 21:27 | might be able to polish them away
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| 21:33 | <alkisg_web> Isn't the basic idea there not to have any ltsp-related code for building chroots?
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| 21:35 | <vagrantc> my idea was to have examples of how to build a chroot with various tools such as ansible, propellor, vmdebootstrap, etc.
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| 21:35 | any examples that are overly complicated would not be included :)
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| 21:36 | so it would have to be a short example ... e.g. build a chroot and install relevent package(s)
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| 21:37 | so far, i haven't found anything that really passed my idea of a simplicity test ... the ideal to me would look something like: apt install TOOL ; TOOL /opt/ltsp/i386 ltsp-client
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| 21:37 | or thereabouts
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| 21:38 | <alkisg_web> I would go with "apt install virtualbox; setup your favorite distro graphically; ltsp-update-image path/to/vdi"
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| 21:38 | <vagrantc> sounds like a perfectly useful example
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| 21:40 | but i can see the use case for a sysadmin who just wants to ssh in and run some commandline program
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| 21:40 | <alkisg_web> qemu-nbd can mount the first partition of a .vdi to /dev/nbd0, which can then be mounted ro to /mnt, and ltsp-update-image can work on that
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| 21:40 | <vagrantc> we shouldn't *require* a graphical install
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| 21:40 | * alkisg_web has done that numerous times, even exported the partition directly over nbd-server without ltsp-update-image | |
| 21:41 | <alkisg_web> If we can work with chroots and VMs, we don't require anything at all
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| 21:41 | They're just examples on how to maintain chroots and VMs, there's no LTSP related code there
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| 21:42 | <vagrantc> which is why this is an idea of "documentation to replace the core functionality of ltsp-build-client"
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| 21:42 | <alkisg_web> I totally agree with that idea
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| 21:42 | I'm not opposing to anything that you said
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| 21:42 | <vagrantc> ok :)
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| 21:43 | <alkisg_web> But I wouldn't put the "how to setup ubuntu in a VM" in the ltsp wiki; I would point to other wikis that have that
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| 21:43 | <vagrantc> though i see some short configuration file for a build tool like propellor, or ansible, or whatever, as documentation
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| 21:43 | <alkisg_web> I would only include the rest of the steps, "install ltsp-client in the VM, and run qemu-nbd to access the partition"
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| 21:44 | We could also have `ltsp-config xxx` directives for those
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| 21:45 | <vagrantc> hmmmm...
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| 21:46 | <alkisg_web> Anyways, personally I think I'll focus on internationalizing sch-scripts, if that part goes well, otherwise in implementing an ltspd draft
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| 21:46 | <vagrantc> you could even have an ltsp-config option to mount an image, install ltsp-client, and then build the ltsp image out of it
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| 21:46 | yeah, sounds good
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| 21:46 | <alkisg_web> That could be part of ltsp-update-image...
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| 21:47 | <vagrantc> if we could just download a distro live image as the base, and install some additional packages...
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| 21:47 | <alkisg_web> ltsp-update-image /path/to/ubuntu.vdi => could mount it, use an overlayfs, install ltsp-client, run mksquashfs... so that ubuntu.vdi wouldn't even need to have ltsp-client installed :D
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| 21:47 | <vagrantc> it would need to know some standard live-image layouts
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| 21:47 | alkisg_web: exactly
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| 21:48 | i'd also like to be able to update an ltsp image from an existing ltsp image in that way
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| 21:48 | <alkisg_web> Instead of using unsquashfs?
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| 21:49 | Sure, it wouldn't be very different from the previous scenario...
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| 21:50 | Pumpkin time! /me waves...
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