IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 February 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:13 | <nutron> ok, where's the best place to set a user environment variable when using ltsp?
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| 00:13 | ie, I've been told to enable GCONF_LOCAL_LOCKS=1 per user .. but where do I do that really?
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| 05:00 | <muppis> TIMESERVER in lts.conf seems not working in lucid, or do I miss something?
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| 05:01 | <alkisg> AFAIK it's working in Lucid
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| 05:01 | Do you need NAT to reach the time server?
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| 05:01 | Is your TIMEZONE correct?
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| 05:04 | <muppis> TIMEZONE is set to Europe/Helsinki.
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| 05:06 | ntpdate works from client.
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| 05:37 | <garymc> i wa sin yesterday asking about keyboard stuff. my keybord doesnt work on my sony vaio when i log into ltsp via ethernet. can anyone post the link again. sorry i los the link and this chatzilla doesnt have a history thing.
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| 05:46 | <garymc> !keyboard
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| 05:46 | <ltspbot> garymc: Error: "keyboard" is not a valid command.
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| 05:47 | <garymc> !list
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| 05:47 | <ltspbot> garymc: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Factoids, Google, Internet, Karma, Misc, Owner, Seen, Status, and User
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| 06:02 | <Hyperbyte> I've set TIMEZONE and TIMESERVER in lts.conf, installed ntpdate into the chroot... still the clients refuse to set the timezone specified or update the time. What am I missing? :-)
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| 06:03 | This is with LTSP 5.1.95-1 running on Fedora 13 x86_64. ntpdate works fine if I run it manually.
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| 06:18 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, actually I got same problem with Ubuntu Lucid..
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| 06:18 | <Hyperbyte> That's interesting actually.
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| 06:19 | <muppis> Yep.
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| 06:20 | <Hyperbyte> I just moved the set_time code from <chroot>/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common to a startup script and it works beeeeeautiful.
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| 06:21 | So I think I can safely say it's not my fault. :)
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| 06:21 | <muppis> Had to take a look.
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| 06:30 | <Hyperbyte> I'm really beginning to love LTSP, the more I start to understand it
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| 07:55 | <garymc> i wa sin yesterday asking about keyboard stuff. my keybord doesnt work on my sony vaio when i log into ltsp via ethernet. can anyone post the link again. sorry i los the link and this chatzilla doesnt have a history thing.
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| 08:01 | <alkisg> See the topic, there's a link to the logs there
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| 08:13 | <garymc> alkisg : thanks. Now what and where is the x.org documentation?
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| 08:14 | * Hyperbyte grins | |
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| 08:14 | <Hyperbyte> http://x.org/
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> garymc: can you boot your vaio normally and see the layout/
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| 08:16 | ?
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| 08:16 | Then just use that value for XKBLAYOUT
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| 08:16 | (normally == I mean with a live cd or something)
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| 08:16 | <garymc> how would i do that? I can boot the viao into windows xp if thats what you mean
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| 08:17 | <markit> garymc: lol
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| 08:17 | <garymc> where would i see the layout in XP?
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| 08:17 | ahh come on ... im a little slow on these matters
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| 08:18 | <markit> garymc: use a real OS, download and burn a CD with a Live distro, like ubuntu/kubuntu (if you use ubuntu/kubuntu as ltsp server)
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| 08:19 | then boot from cd, is usually a startup option of the bios (like press F12)
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| 08:19 | or an option if you change boot priority in the bios setup
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| 08:19 | <garymc> well i boot the viao from ethernet
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| 08:19 | ethernet is linked to LTSP server
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| 08:20 | <markit> garymc: when you boot from ethernet, you boot to ltsp server, but to troubleshooting alkisg is asking you to boot from a "regular local OS"
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| 08:20 | and grab the value of the XKBLAYOUT (we will have to ask alkisg how to obtain it, since I don't know either)
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| 08:20 | <garymc> ok, so i need to burn a cd and boot from that?
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| 08:20 | would i have to install it to the hard drive?
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| 08:20 | <markit> garymc: exactly
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| 08:20 | NO
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> garymc: "my keybord doesnt work on my sony vaio when i log into ltsp via ethernet" ==> I thought that meant that it worked locally, but you meant in windows XP
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| 08:21 | <markit> garymc: live cd are intended also NOT to be installed, but simply booted and enjoided without affecting your HD
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> garymc: so, the problem is that you don't know how to select the correct keyboard layout for your vaio in gnome?
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| 08:21 | <garymc> it works when im using it in windows
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> Or do you think it's an LTSP problem?
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| 08:21 | <garymc> yes i think so
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> Linux problem or LTSP problem?
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| 08:21 | <garymc> possibly either one
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> OK, so what I'm saying is, "narrow it down"
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| 08:22 | Boot with a live CD or a live usb stick, so no LTSP there
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| 08:22 | If it works there, see the layout you use
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| 08:22 | If it doesn't, then it isn't an LTSP problem
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| 08:22 | So you need to ask in #ubuntu or your distro channel
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| 08:22 | <garymc> about a live version on usb stick?
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| 08:22 | <markit> alkisg: how can you tell what layout you are using? is a global environment variable set?
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| 08:23 | <alkisg> markit: one way to see it is from the gnome keyboard applet
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| 08:23 | <markit> garymc: there is a windows program also, AFAIK, that lets you create a "booting usb stick" from a .iso, so no need to burn a cd, if your vaio is able to boot from usb, of course
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| 08:24 | <garymc> hmmmmm
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| 08:24 | <garymc> could i just go through all the layouts in ltsp?
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| 08:25 | <markit> garymc: I think so, but alkisg is the guru here
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| 08:27 | <garymc> alkisg could i just try every layout till it worked?
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| 08:30 | <markit> is only a matter of time wasted or not, try , you will not damage ltsp server
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| 08:31 | garymc: in any case GNU/Linux is far better than XP, it respects your freedoms, worth a try, so you'd better have a usb live in any case
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| 08:32 | (I do love KDE as desktop environment, but Gnome is very popular as well, so is your choice, use a Kubuntu or Ubuntu iso)
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| 08:32 | * markit has no M$Windows installed in any of his home PC, and feels much much better | |
| 08:32 | <alkisg> garymc: I thought you already had an ubuntu.iso from when you installed your ltsp server, but sure, you can also try from ltsp
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| 08:32 | garymc: boot in XP, run "intl.cpl" and see the layout
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| 08:32 | Then you can select a similar one in linux
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| 08:33 | garymc: all this: not related to #ltsp :)
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| 08:35 | <garymc> ok, alkisg that just shows regional settings. no layout stuff etc
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| 08:36 | but i did start going through differnet layouts in ltsp and the Y U I O stay as 1 2 3 4
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| 08:36 | no matter what one i selected
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| 08:41 | * _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat | |
| 08:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> I am attempting to test LTSP with Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 2. Updated this morning. I am seeing the following error:
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| 08:42 | <Gadi> garymc: num_lock?
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| 08:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c
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| 08:42 | anybody have any ideas?
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| 08:42 | never seen this before...
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| 08:43 | that error occurs on boot
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| 08:43 | <garymc> no there isnt a number pad on the right of the keyboard as it is a laptop
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| 08:43 | <Gadi> garymc: many laptops use the regular keys as number pad
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| 08:44 | Im sure you will find a numlock if you look
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| 08:44 | <garymc> ok i will check now
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| 08:45 | yes there is
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| 08:45 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: any ideas about this error in 11.04 A2?
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| 08:45 | <garymc> let me test
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: Im no expert, but I would deduce that you have a runaway loop, say of the modprobe binfmt-464c persuasion
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| 08:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> lol ok thanks :)
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| 08:49 | <garymc> Gadi : thank you . problem solved
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> garymc: np
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| 08:57 | :)
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| 09:00 | <markit> Gadi: :)
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| 11:55 | <sathis> guys is that works sip calling with ubunt LTSP on thinclients
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| 11:55 | on ekiga
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| 12:06 | <alkisg> Just wondering, why was ekiga removed from the default ubuntu installation?
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| 12:28 | <abeehc> apparently no one ever used it
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| 12:29 | <ogra> alkisg, because of telepathy
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Erm. I don't think there are any telepathy phones though :)
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| 12:30 | <abeehc> must be a bit of both the fact no one used ekiga and there's another sip stack by default
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| 12:31 | <alkisg> And unfortunately empathy still isn't good enough for anything
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| 12:31 | <abeehc> but yeah i don't see any clients
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| 12:31 | <ogra> telepathy has a sip module
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| 12:31 | telepathy-sofiasip
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| 12:32 | <alkisg> And empathy works OK with it?
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| 12:32 | <abeehc> hmm it looks like it would work
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| 12:32 | <ogra> alkisg, no idea, never used sip but afaik it is used by default on the n900 so i would guess it works
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> Sounds good
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| 12:33 | <abeehc> i'm gonna try
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| 12:33 | ekiga certainly wasn't broken
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| 12:33 | <ogra> its still available
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| 12:33 | just install it
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> Right I thought it was removed because it was undermaintained, but its git shows it's actively developed
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| 12:34 | <abeehc> that's sorta what i meant
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| 12:34 | <ogra> no, it was removed because telepathy and empathy went in
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| 12:35 | <abeehc> for sure makes good sense
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| 12:35 | i don't know what im doin.. added a sip acct into the applet...hehe
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| 12:36 | ah the client..
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| 14:06 | <Hyperbyte> About the whole softphone discussion, I've become quite interested in www.sflphone.org myself recently
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| 14:06 | It's more focused on business usage, and it needs some work still in that area, but I think it's very promising.
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| 14:07 | Oh, and I have good experiences with that in an LTSP environment as well.
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| 15:54 | <abeehc> bleh i think acroread just owned all the memory on my server
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| 15:54 | and dbus is now very unhappy
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| 15:54 | anyone know a way to avoid rebooting the box; restarting dbus doesn't help much or at all
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