IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 12 February 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:27 | <Ark74> hi guys, i'm trying to boot a thin client form a Virtual Server on LTSP 5.3.7 using a bridged adapter, it finds the source ip address but i got stuck at a tftp time out
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| 04:28 | i've searched but no idea why
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| 04:28 | there's no much info around
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| 04:29 | have you tried something like this before?
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| 05:45 | <joe_sizlack> evenin' folks
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| 05:45 | anyone know of a way to interact with epoptes from a shell?
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| 05:45 | <Ark74> o btw, im using virtual box
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| 05:46 | nop, but good question :)
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| 05:46 | <joe_sizlack> darn
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| 05:46 | <Ark74> (not me)
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| 05:48 | <joe_sizlack> you have some question about using ltsp with virtual box?
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| 05:49 | <Ark74> yep
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| 05:50 | i'm trying to boot a thin client from a virtual server
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| 05:50 | so far i can boot a virtual thin client
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| 05:51 | from a real ltsp server
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| 05:51 | <joe_sizlack> oh
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| 06:31 | <work_alkisg> joe_sizlack: it's not implemented yet, there's a bug report filed about that
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| 06:31 | Ark74: can a virtual client get booted from your virtual server?
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| 06:32 | <Ark74> alkisg, yep
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| 06:32 | using virtual box
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> OK then try `tftp get` from another client to verify that your tftp is indeed reachable from outside
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| 06:33 | <Ark74> using the same internal network for both, server and client (both virtual)
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 06:33 | <ltsp> tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 06:34 | <Ark74> i mean, is it possible? have someone done it before?
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| 06:34 | real client -> virtual server ltsp boot
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| 06:34 | <alkisg> Sure, all the time
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| 06:34 | <Ark74> O_o!
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| 06:34 | nice
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| 06:35 | <alkisg> Many people use VMs for servers
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| 06:35 | It gives them flexibility, they say
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| 06:35 | <Ark74> well, yeah using several nic for different networks with diferent distros ;)
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| 06:36 | my experiment includes old machines without cmov instruction ;)
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| 06:37 | <alkisg> Just install a debian kernel there, it works fine
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| 06:39 | <Ark74> on the main server?, what about the performance? will it drop? or the vm?
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| 06:41 | <alkisg> It'll drop about 10%
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| 06:43 | <Ark74> mmm, interesting. That will be easier than all this stuff :)
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| 06:44 | and a VM won't get the full potential of the server on the first place
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| 07:05 | <joe_sizlack> ah, cool
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| 07:06 | I'd love to be able to execute a bunch of commands easily without having to forward X
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| 09:37 | <prakash_> Hi Folks. Got a question. Just say we have 20 terminal clients. The pc's are all at fixed location. How do we configure dhcp so that all 20 will have fix ip's. Tq
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| 09:45 | <sysadmin> hi there
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| 09:46 | <work_alkisg> prakash_: you're asking the syntax for /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf? It shouldn't be hard to find examples in google...
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| 09:47 | <prakash_> ok
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| 09:47 | <Guest76417> hi there all i was hoping if anyone can help me with an LTSP related issue
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| 09:47 | <work_alkisg> !ask
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| 09:47 | <ltsp> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 09:48 | <Guest76417> i did an ltsp installation long time ago, and the chroot image could be edited by hand and isntall packages inside for the clients to have the software. But now, unless i install directly de software to de server, the clients dont see it
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| 09:48 | and its kinda hot swap, cause without rebuilding the image, the clients see the new software
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| 09:48 | even if they are logued in
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| 09:49 | <work_alkisg> distro/version etc?
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| 09:49 | <Guest76417> oh sorry, ubuntu 12.04,
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| 09:50 | ltspo-server 5.3.7
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| 09:50 | <work_alkisg> On a client, run: ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 09:50 | Then on that xterm, run: cat /proc/cmdline
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| 09:50 | Paste the output here.
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| 09:50 | <Guest76417> ok
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| 09:54 | <Guest76417> ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 nbdroot=:ltsp_i386 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz
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| 09:54 | <work_alkisg> Nothing special there
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| 09:54 | So you're probably using standard thin clients
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| 09:55 | <work_alkisg> I.e. you install stuff on the server for the clients to see it
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| 09:55 | You want to change that?
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| 09:56 | <Guest76417> yes, i want diferent images
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| 09:56 | dont need the desktop on the server
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| 09:56 | <work_alkisg> !fatclients
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| 09:56 | <ltsp> fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 09:56 | <Guest76417> but i need it on the image
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| 09:57 | but fatclients the machines are old
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| 09:57 | <work_alkisg> Were you asking about that again a few days ago?
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| 09:57 | Where I suggested that you would use VMs?
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| 09:57 | <Guest76417> oh, one of my colleagues maybe
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| 09:57 | he told me to come here
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| 09:57 | and ask for more help
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| 09:57 | <work_alkisg> What more help?
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| 09:58 | <Guest76417> we couldn't manage to do the VM's thing and fat clients are not an option cause old hardware :(
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| 09:58 | <work_alkisg> So you have specific questions that you want to ask, or are you searching for someone to do it instead of you?
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| 09:59 | <Guest76417> haha no sorry we want to doit ourselves its just that this has changed a lot with a few years
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| 09:59 | and it was easy to create and mantain chroot images for the clients with specdific software
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| 10:00 | <work_alkisg> It's a lot easier nowadays than before
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| 10:00 | <Guest76417> so the path would be creating fat client images
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| 10:00 | isn't it? for the software thing that i need to have
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| 10:02 | <work_alkisg> After chatting with your colleague, we ended up with "install 1 ltsp server in a VM, and hide the software you don't need dynamically, don't use multiple chroots"
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| 10:02 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 10:02 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 10:02 | <work_alkisg> This should make things easier ^
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| 10:03 | <Guest76417> ok we will give it a try, he is sick and doen't come every day this last past weeks
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| 10:03 | thanks for you rhelp
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| 10:03 | <work_alkisg> You're welcome
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| 10:03 | <Guest76417> have a good one ;)
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| 16:13 | <jmilot> Hi
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| 16:14 | alkisg, i search a way to filter users who appears in Epoptes
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| 16:15 | Maybe somebody else could help me ?
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| 16:17 | for example, i have a prof who use epoptes and he see students and himself
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> jmilot: you can select not to launch epoptes-client in startup apps
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| 16:20 | But he's probably running it the wrong way, if he sees himself...
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| 16:20 | E.g. maybe he's using ssh -X ?
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| 16:21 | <jmilot> yes he could use ltsp or NX ( ssh -X)
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| 16:21 | but it seems to appear in ltsp
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| 16:22 | <jmilot> and the prof doesn't use the same thin client
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| 16:22 | <jmilot> so i can change ltsp configuration to delete init epoptes-client file
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> The startup apps are per-user, not per pc
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| 16:23 | It's not related to ltsp, it's a gnome (xdg) thing
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| 16:23 | <jmilot> we don't use gnome but kde trinity
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| 16:23 | how i can delete the use of epoptes-client ?
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| 16:24 | only for prof group
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> Google for "disable startup programs kde"
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| 16:25 | <alkisg> KDE should have a dialog for this
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| 16:25 | "Startup applications" or something
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| 16:28 | Gnome: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TydGLEX981g/UH_VKbzTRLI/AAAAAAAAAUM/sxMNqzpuIG4/s610/startup-applications.jpg
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| 16:28 | XFCE? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rKLsOwiFuCk/UJKGm_QIXBI/AAAAAAAALgg/leHrAs8RO8k/s1600/xubuntu-startup.png
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| 16:28 | Etc etc
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| 16:35 | <jmilot> I have a strange behaviour
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| 16:36 | I have modified /etc/default/epoptes : SOCKET_GROUP
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| 16:36 | but i can't launch epoptes with a user from this group
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| 16:37 | <alkisg> Did you restart the epoptes daemon? sudo service epoptes restart
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| 16:37 | <jmilot> yes
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| 16:38 | <alkisg> ls -lha /var/run/epoptes/epoptes.socket
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| 16:38 | Did the user logout/login after the group change?
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| 16:39 | <jmilot> no
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| 16:41 | I logout , but the same thing ...
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| 16:41 | <alkisg> (06:38:14 μμ) alkisg: ls -lha /var/run/epoptes/epoptes.socket
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| 16:42 | <jmilot> srw-rw-rw- 1 root dotriver 0 févr. 12 17:37 /var/run/epoptes/epoptes.socket
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| 16:42 | it's the good group specify
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| 16:43 | <alkisg> ls -lhad /var/run/epoptes
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| 16:43 | The dir is ok too?
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| 16:44 | <jmilot> yes it is ok
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> Strange. /me needs to go, bbl
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