IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 July 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:51 | <alkisg> vagrantc: does buster use resolvconf instead of systemd-resolve? How would I install buster at this point, by editing sources.list in stretch? (I think there's no debian-installer yet, right?)
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| 07:47 | <alkisg> vagrantc: does buster use resolvconf instead of systemd-resolve? How would I install buster at this point, by editing sources.list in stretch? (I think there's no debian-installer yet, right?)
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| 07:48 | <vagrantc> alkisg: installer images for debian-installer daily images support buster ... there was also a release candidate, but it might be getting a bit old
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| 07:49 | alkisg: but you could also just install stretch and upgrade
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| 07:49 | <alkisg> I do have stretch, but sometimes some packages are not supposed to be installed, and are left there because of upgrades
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| 07:49 | <vagrantc> alkisg: as to which is used, it might be neither by default ... depends on what package sets you install
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| 07:49 | <alkisg> So e.g. I'm afraid an upgrade won't tell me if resolvconf is the default
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| 07:50 | E.g. a usual debian+gnome tasksel selection...
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| 07:50 | <vagrantc> i don't install that very often ... so best to just try
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| 07:51 | https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/
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| 07:51 | <alkisg> Richard reported that ltsp was working fine in buster, but he was using resolvconf, and got me thinking :)
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| 07:51 | Thanks, will try when I finish with 18.04
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| 07:51 | <vagrantc> the mini.iso is the easiest
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| 07:51 | unless you want to set up network boot
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| 08:17 | <vagrantc> alkisg: of course, using the daily images sometimes have glitches that make them unusable
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| 08:17 | alkisg: but you can go up a few directory levels to get earlier ones too
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> vagrantc: thanks, I'll give them a go
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| 08:40 | Damn ltspfsmounter makes udev hang even when a cd is inserted while the client boots
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| 08:41 | It's trying to loop-mount it for root even though no users have logged in, and fails
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| 08:41 | I wonder when that broke...
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| 08:42 | <vagrantc> i forget why it does that ... maybe kiosk or remote-apps or something
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| 08:42 | <alkisg> I think we'd have noticed it if it did that in the past, it should only have been broken for a couple of years now
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| 08:43 | I mean, it's ok if it mounts things, but breaking udev, .... nope
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| 08:43 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 08:43 | <alkisg> udevadm settle now waits 1 minute before giving up, delaying boot in the meantime
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| 15:44 | <quinox> alkisg: I installed LTSP inside a fresh 18.04 VM and booted real clients from it, it works like a charm, including shutdown
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| 15:45 | I am using my own DHCP and I didn't install epoptes, so I didn't test those things
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| 15:46 | Unless you think there are blocking issues I can bump my real server to 18.04 this Saturday
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> quinox: the one big thing that I have left is that ltspfsdmounter delays client boot 1 minute if there are CDs inserted. I don't know about USB sticks, maybe there too.
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| 15:50 | quinox: also, I think you didn't see the issue with libreoffice not starting :D But I solved that today
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| 16:03 | <quinox> lol
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| 16:03 | how did that happen?
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| 16:06 | <quinox> I see, apparmor
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| 16:06 | <alkisg> I'm not sure what the problem is exactly, but libreoffice didn't start on fat clients, and disabling the apparmor service worked around the issue
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| 16:07 | Btw the ltspfsmounter issue only happens on thin clients and can be worked around by setting LOCALDEV=False
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| 16:07 | So I'm inclined to just leave it be, until someone that actually uses LOCALDEV comes pinging :D
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| 16:12 | <quinox> I only have fat clients, and none have cd drives
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| 16:13 | looking up libreoffice and apparmor result in numerous search results
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| 16:13 | I've never felt the need to look at using apparmor
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> Me neither :)
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| 16:15 | I was just glad to find the workaround in only two hours! :(
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| 16:15 | ltspfs isn't used in fat clients, so no problem with cd drives etc at all
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| 16:21 | quinox: btw, 18.04.1 is going to be released in 3 days, so it's good timing for a new installation
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| 19:24 | <jgee> I have two servers on Ubuntu 18.04 using LTSP. One of them works fine, the other displays "Could not acquire name on session bus" on any login attempt. Any ideas?
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| 20:40 | <talmid> I had a cups server sharing the printers on the network so all the clients can see it, but the printers disappeared from the list on the client, how can I bring them back?
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| 22:50 | <jgee> talmid: Check that cups-browsed is configured and running
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