IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 5 March 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:40 | <t3rm1n4l> hi
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| 01:41 | i am not able to reroute pluse audio for my ltsp client
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| 02:00 | <gnunux> hi
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| 02:01 | <elias_a> ho
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| 02:02 | <t3rm1n4l> hey
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| 02:02 | i am not able to setup pulse audio with my ltsp
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| 02:15 | <elias_a> t3rm1n4l: No wonder...
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| 02:15 | Heard a lot about the same thing.
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| 02:15 | I do not have a test environment so I cannot help you.
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| 05:52 | * alkisg wonders if he could export the whole server root partition (e.g. /dev/sda1) with nbd to avoid ltsp-update-image... and the client, instead of chroot'ing to /root (on ltsp_nbd in the initramfs), would chroot to /root/opt/ltsp/i386... | |
| 05:52 | <alkisg> Or would there be any problems because it's also used by the server at the same time?
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| 06:38 | <scottmaccal> morning all.
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| 06:42 | <elias_a> Good afternoon!
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| 06:42 | scottmaccal: How is the weather there where people stand upside down? ;-)
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| 06:46 | <scottmaccal> elias_a: What?
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| 06:47 | heh
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| 06:48 | <scottmaccal> elias_a: ahh, you are in Finland.
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| 06:48 | <elias_a> Yep :)
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| 06:49 | <scottmaccal> Well, I am in Maine. Not physically upside down, though I feel like that. TGIF
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| 06:49 | <elias_a> As said - it is a truly magnificent form of evolution that first a bunch of people are able to sail across the Atlantic and then learn how to walk upside down... :D
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| 06:50 | <scottmaccal> Yes. Imagine what the first people went through.
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| 06:50 | <elias_a> This time on Friday it starts to feel my mind is upside down. Empy as a bucket - with nothing to loose.
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| 06:50 | (like Paul Simon sang)
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| 06:50 | <scottmaccal> I hear that.
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| 06:51 | The weather here is cold and gray. You way?
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| 06:53 | <elias_a> -3 Celcius and sun is shining :)
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| 06:53 | A beatiful winter day.
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| 06:53 | Did not even recall how blue winter sky is. Wow....
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| 06:55 | <scottmaccal> Yes I have.
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| 07:08 | <_UsUrPeR_> stgraber: ping?
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| 07:23 | <lfaraone> Is there a way to use DKMS with LTSP? I think I need to use the fglrx driver to get fat-client acceleration, but I don't want the module to have to be installed every boot. (I'd like to do it in the chroot before I create the image)
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| 07:25 | <alkisg> lfaraone: just install it to the chroot, then...
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| 07:29 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hi all!
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| 07:49 | <scottmaccal> Hi cliebow.
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| 07:54 | <cliebow> scottmaccal, hio!
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| 08:00 | scottmaccal, i have a g3 running ltsp4..the last that bill cavalieri built..but havnt found the magic to run either g3 or 4 in karmic..yaboot downloads..yaboot is read..it starts downloading and craps out..
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| 08:00 | <scottmaccal> bummer.
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| 08:02 | cliebow: there must be a way to log the yaboot process to get and idea as to what the issue is.
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| 08:03 | <cliebow> i cant tell if it is tftp issue..it never gets the final packet..
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| 08:03 | gets to packet 12289..
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| 08:03 | <scottmaccal> Yeah, it would be cool to have a log of the process to isolate the issue.
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| 08:04 | Not that I would have any idea what to do after that is accomplished. :-)
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| 08:04 | <cliebow> the client never gets an os to work with
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| 08:05 | tftp tells me nothing..Gadi wondered whether packet size was relevant.
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| 08:05 | <ogra> are you sure yaboot and the kernel from karmic even work ? i.e. did you try with a karmic CD first ?
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| 08:05 | <cliebow> well.. i have a g4 running karmic
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| 08:05 | <ogra> ah
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| 08:06 | <cliebow> so built the image there
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| 08:06 | * ogra wasnt sure how well thats maintained | |
| 08:06 | <cliebow> nor am i..i think there is an ubuntu-powerpc channel?
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| 08:07 | <ogra> no idea
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| 08:07 | i havent touched ppc for ages
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| 08:09 | <cliebow> nor have i..but i just got a request to make g3 work
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| 08:09 | in ltsp
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| 08:10 | so fir starters got the old 4.1 to run..been agess since ive had any call to work with ltsp\
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| 08:10 | we have like 500 of the little bas...err machines around here
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| 08:14 | yeah..downloading ltsp/powerpc/vmlinux fails at block 12289
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| 08:15 | cant read ELF e_ident /e_type/e_machine info
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| 08:15 | Gadi suggested in chroot rm mkelf and add mknbi..
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| 08:16 | i did not find elf in chroot
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| 08:16 | <ogra> mkelfimage
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| 08:16 | <Gadi> cliebow: chroot /opt/ltsp/ppc apt-get remove mkelfimage
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| 08:16 | <cliebow> ill try again
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| 08:16 | <ogra> and install mknbi
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| 08:18 | <cliebow> couldnt find package mkelfimage
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| 08:18 | apt-cache search mknbi..returns nothing
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| 08:19 | <ogra> heh
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| 08:19 | both are x86 tools
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| 08:20 | so they dont exist on ppc
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| 08:20 | <cliebow> hmmm..figures 8~)
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| 08:27 | <cliebow> it was also mentioned to try stgrabers ppa..i am ignorant how to do this..if anyone cares to explain..
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| 08:40 | <CAN-o-SPAM> cliebow: see if this helps ... https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware
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| 08:50 | <cliebow> CAN-o-SPAM thanks..ill look it up
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| 08:50 | <CAN-o-SPAM> cliebow: just check that for adding a PPA... i didn't have a chacne to read through it. then you can look up "stgraber" on launchpad to find his
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| 08:53 | <cliebow> sure..i would assume this would be installed on the server..rather than the chroot
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> cliebow: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462663
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| 09:19 | you might find that interesting
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| 09:19 | forget the ppa - I think ur image is just too large
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| 09:19 | there is a workaround in that link to try
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| 09:25 | <cliebow> Gadi:you rock!..only problm is it killed the machine 8~)
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| 09:26 | <Gadi> killed it how?
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| 09:26 | <cliebow> heh..no screen light at all
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| 09:26 | <Gadi> huh
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| 09:27 | <cliebow> just black..
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> and you cant hold down a magic key on boot to reset it?
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| 09:27 | <cliebow> not so far..cmd-option PR perhaps
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| 09:56 | <cliebow> afraid I corrupted the bootrom..
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| 09:57 | <cliebow> Do not change real-base on an Open Firmware 3 machine.
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| 09:58 | <Gadi> eek
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| 10:01 | <cliebow> ook..no prob//i picked the worst of the bunch to screw with
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| 10:02 | tried changingmemory..pram reset..putting it in the freezer
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| 10:03 | <mgariepy> hi everyone
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| 10:13 | <cliebow> mgariepy, Howdy.
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| 10:29 | <slynux_> hi
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| 10:29 | i implemented ltsp through wifi
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| 10:30 | but i am having problem with ltspfsd
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| 10:30 | the damon is running
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| 10:31 | is there any tcp blocking problems
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| 10:32 | <alkisg> How are you booting with wifi?
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| 10:33 | <slynux_> using a usb bootable
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> You wrote the whole chroot to a usb stick?
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| 10:33 | <slynux_> yes
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| 10:33 | based on pardus linux
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> And what of the initscripts? They expect nfs or nbd...
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| 10:34 | <slynux_> its all based on pardus linux distro
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| 10:34 | but i setup sound using pulseaudio
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| 10:34 | but i am having problem with ltspfsd
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| 10:34 | i think the issue is client side where daemon is running
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| 10:34 | <alkisg> The daemon is running on the clients, but it doesn't mount the sticks?
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| 10:35 | <slynux_> and some probs with tcp settings
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| 10:35 | i think so
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| 10:36 | <alkisg> Here are some old info about debugging localdevs, it might help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
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| 10:36 | <slynux_> let me see
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| 12:31 | <grantk> hello
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| 12:32 | <grantk> Anyone have an idea why local printing will work on a new ltsp client and not older client? I have an intel Atom based client that I was testing with today and got local printing to work no problem, then when I try with my older hardware(dell, compaq PII) clients I am unable to print.
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| 12:32 | I can telnet in, check the console and make sure that jetpipe is running etc, nothing ever makes it to the printer though.
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| 12:37 | <thunsucker> grantk: and they're both booting to the same chroot?
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| 12:38 | <grantk> thunsucker: Yes
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| 14:59 | <vagrantc> Gadi: what was the " Do not start a sound daemon if SOUND_DAEMON is set to False, N, or No" about?
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> To avoid the warning in *)...
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| 15:00 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i.e. in what cases would you have SOUND=
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| 15:00 | True, but SOUND_DAEMON=False ?
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| 15:00 | rdp ?
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 15:01 | <vagrantc> oh, the assumptions we've made.
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> (he told me about it yesterday...)
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| 15:01 | <vagrantc> i wonder other places where we've assumed that
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| 15:01 | i am fairly certain they exist...
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| 15:02 | <AndyGraybeal> my server is amd64 (intel actually, but you understand) my clients are i386, and i want to add a ppc, how would i do that?
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| 15:02 | * alkisg uses SOUND=false when he doesn't want a daemon | |
| 15:03 | <vagrantc> AndyGraybeal: get a powerpc server, build a powerpc chroot, and copy it onto your amd64 server.
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| 15:03 | <nubae_> any idea why fglrx would fail to load in my chroot, when my card is clearly supported? (x1350)
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| 15:04 | it does try and load the driver, but then fails
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| 15:04 | <vagrantc> AndyGraybeal: qemu isn't yet up to snuff to produce cross-architecture chroots for *most* architectures (armel does work, though).
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| 15:07 | <AndyGraybeal> vagrantc: i'm really sorry but i don't understand.
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| 15:08 | <vagrantc> AndyGraybeal: the short answer is there's no *simple* way to support powerpc thin clients.
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| 15:08 | AndyGraybeal: without a powerpc server.
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| 15:09 | AndyGraybeal: you can build it on a powerpc server, copy the appropriate files over to your amd64 server.
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| 15:09 | <AndyGraybeal> vagrantc: okay, so i would need to install ubuntu server onto apple machine, install ltsp, and then configure client?
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| 15:09 | <johnny> yes
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| 15:09 | and the copy the chroot and tftpboot stuff back onto amd64 server
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| 15:09 | <AndyGraybeal> okay, i'm sorry that this is so hard for me to understand.. i feel like an idiot.
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| 15:11 | <vagrantc> AndyGraybeal: there are some technologies in development (qemu) that will make it easier in the future, but it's not ready yet for powerpc.
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| 17:04 | <dlandry> list
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| 17:05 | Anyone available to help with a firefox localapp problem?
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| 17:08 | * dlandry dlandry | |
| 17:08 | <dlandry> Anyone available to help with a firefox localapp problem?
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| 17:10 | Anyone available to help with a firefox localapp problem?
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| 17:55 | <dlandry> Anyone available to help with a firefox localapps problem?
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| 17:56 | w
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