IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 9 May 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:54 | <Hyperbyte> Is there any benefit that Edubuntu brings for me, with regard to LTSP?
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| 13:16 | <markit> hi alkisg :) Installing epoptes-client in chroot solved the problem of not seeing clients before login, thanks
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> You're welcome :)
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| 13:16 | <markit> btw, I had one client not showing when I turned all pc on
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| 13:16 | and strange thing, during shutdown of the server seems to me to have noticed that epoptes is re-started
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| 13:16 | is it possible?
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| 13:17 | I've removed splash screen, so I see textual messages during boot and shutdown
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| 13:17 | (I do love it, even if people are scared by everything is not graphical, sigh)
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| 13:21 | <alkisg> (04:16:17 μμ) markit: btw, I had one client not showing when I turned all pc on => we may troubleshoot this online sometime if you want, I haven't heard any problems with the current epoptes version
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| 13:22 | (04:16:46 μμ) markit: is it possible? => I'll have to check, upstart might be calling it again even though it's not registered in the headers, dunno
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| 15:42 | <That1GuyRob> hi all
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| 15:44 | was hoping someone might have some ideas about an LTSP issue I've been having
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| 15:46 | my thin clients are configured with x11VNC so we can view the session of the logged in user rather than creating a new virtual session. For some reason after a period of uptime, the clients stop responding to VNC connection requests and if we reboot the client everything seems to be working again
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| 15:50 | <markit> That1GuyRob: don't know if relevant, but do you know epoptes project?
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| 15:50 | www.epoptes.org
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| 16:21 | <That1GuyRob> no I don't know of it
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| 16:22 | that does look very interesting though
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| 17:00 | <That1GuyRob> markit: thanks for the tip
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| 17:10 | <mgariepy> ls
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| 17:56 | <servercbe> hello! I need help
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| 17:56 | necesito ayuda
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| 17:56 | como funciona esto?
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| 17:56 | alguien por alli?
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| 17:57 | somebody there?
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| 17:57 | <shawnp0wers> Most are at work, checking here when they can.
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| 17:57 | Feel free to post a question, if anyone can answer, they will do so when they see it.
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| 17:57 | <servercbe> hello Sir
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| 17:59 | I AM TRYING TO CONNECT epoptes - client, BUT! my epoptes server doesnt recognize the client!
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| 17:59 | this is the first time I am installing it... I dont know exactly how to do it...
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| 18:01 | <vagrantc> what documentation have you followed so far?
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| 18:01 | <servercbe> http://wiki.o2stream.com/spip.php?article47
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| 18:01 | <vagrantc> what OS and verson?
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| 18:02 | <servercbe> ubuntu 12.04
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| 18:02 | lts
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| 18:02 | <vagrantc> you shouldn't need the ppa anymore- the newest version of epoptes is in 12.04
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| 18:06 | meh.
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| 18:08 | <servercbe_> mmm ... something happend... and i was desconected...
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| 18:09 | HELP TO CONNECT EPOPTES- CLIENT TO MY SERVER.... I HAVE BEEN READING http://wiki.o2stream.com/spip.php?article47 AND http://www.epoptes.org/installation
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| 18:09 | <ogra_> no need to shout ....
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| 18:09 | <servercbe_> but i cant still connect them
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| 18:10 | ups... I forgot about the capitalization meaning.. sorry
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| 18:11 | <ogra_> the best is to wait for alkisg to show up here, he is the developer of epoptes
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| 18:11 | (he is in a european tzimezone though, wheer its past 8pm now)
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| 18:12 | <servercbe_> thatś sad...
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| 18:12 | i have been trying to connect since 4 days ago.... but i still cant... :(
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| 18:12 | but thanks for your info!
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| 18:12 | <ogra_> well, alternatively use the mailing list
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| 18:13 | <servercbe_> how do i do that?
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| 18:13 | i am new on it
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| 18:13 | sorry---:(
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| 18:13 | <ogra_> you write a mail to the list ?
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| 18:13 | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
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| 18:14 | <servercbe_> thanks..
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| 19:36 | <alkisg> vagrantc: the new ltsp-update-image options: http://paste.debian.net/168078/ ==> I think I prefer to have the chroot names as the unnamed parameters, but if you insist on using --chroot=xxx instead, I'll do it this way. I also removed the --timeout parameter (those should go in the pxelinux-menus package options) and the --no-copy-tftp parameter (it should be autodetected, if anyone is actually using it)
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| 19:38 | All the kernel-related options are passed unmodified to the (to be updated) ltsp-update-kernels
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| 19:39 | I'll also remove the inetd support and the unnamed-nbd-exports support, for cleaner code
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| 19:40 | <knipwim> alkisg: you know if the /etc/nbd-server/config file is going to be included upstream in nbd?
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| 19:41 | <alkisg> knipwim: vagrantc filed a report about it, but it's only in the debian packaging, I think it will be a reasonable/accepted change, not sure if other distro packagers will follow...
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| 19:42 | <knipwim> this was the response from gentoo's maintainers:
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| 19:42 | "i don't adding a config file like this makes much sense when it isn't usable out of the box. just force the user to create it themselves."
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> True, but if the nbd-server checks the file and doesn't _run_if it finds no exports, then having the configuration file would be ok
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| 19:44 | <knipwim> i could always include one in the ltsp example configs
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| 19:44 | upstream would be better though
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| 19:44 | <alkisg> There's an example config in the debian/ubuntu nbd-server package, isn't it included in gentoo?
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| 19:44 | <knipwim> nope
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| 19:44 | you package it yourselfs
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| 19:45 | <alkisg> $ dpkg -L nbd-server | grep tmpl
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| 19:45 | /usr/share/nbd-server/nbd-server.conf.tmpl
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| 19:45 | The nbd-server debian maintainer is also involved upstream
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| 19:45 | Not sure if he has that file in his trunk...
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| 19:45 | (outside the debian/ dir...)
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| 19:46 | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/wouter/nbd.git;a=tree;f=debian;h=625c8641f538615efe831be7b76093eab6d76416;hb=HEAD
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| 19:46 | In debian/
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| 19:46 | Maybe ask him to put it in examples/ instead?
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| 19:50 | <knipwim> good plan
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| 19:53 | <alkisg> knipwim: vagrantc's bug report, in case you want to comment there: bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671911
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| 19:55 | Ah, he also says that even with a config file, nbd-server doesn't start if it finds no exports
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| 19:55 | So you can tell that to the gentoo maintainer
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| 20:00 | <That1GuyRob> does anyone know anything about x11VNC? I'm having a bit of a problem with it on my thin clients
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| 20:01 | <alkisg> What problem? Use the -noshm option
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| 20:01 | <That1GuyRob> -noshm? I"m not sure what that means
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| 20:02 | <alkisg> check the x11vnc man page, it means not to use shared memory, as the thin clients have a remote X server
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| 20:02 | <That1GuyRob> the clients are configured to allow connections to view the current session rather than creating a new virtual session and everything seems to work fine
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| 20:03 | however after a period of uptime, they start refusing connections... after a reboot of the client everything works again
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| 20:03 | does that have anything to do with -noshm?
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| 20:04 | <alkisg> No, if it works sometimes, -noshm isn't related
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| 20:05 | <That1GuyRob> i have checked the config file too and the -forever option is already specified
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| 20:05 | gimme a sec and I will ssh to one of the servers and grap the config file... do you want to look at it?
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| 20:10 | actually I can't seem to remember where that file is located now
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