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Channel log from 22 May 2017   (all times are UTC)

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<map7`>
exit
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exit
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<map7`>
I'm trying to upgrade the kernel in my thin client image but when I boot the new kernel I'm getting the following errors
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modprobe: module overlayfs not found in modules.dep
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modprobe: module aufs not found in modules.dep
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I'm installing kernel 4.9 from debian jessie's backports
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How do I install the overlayfs for the kernel?
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<alkisg>
map7`: it sounds like you didn't run ltsp-update-kernels. What's the output of `uname -r` in busybox, is it 4.9?
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<map7`>
alkisg: I did run ltsp-update-kernels. I just spoke to Vagrant on the mailing list
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I agree with him that I would be better off jumping to Debian Stretch
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<alkisg>
Yeah saw the mail, I didn't realize you had a very old ltsp that couldn't cope with overlay fs
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We fixed that years ago :)
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<map7`>
yep this is a production box with four companies using thin clients off it so we don't get a chance to do big upgrades that often.
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<alkisg>
I think the fix is there in jessie-backports
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So you just need to add backports to your chroot
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But if you're just rolling out the update, then sure, go for stretch
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<map7`>
alkisg: I did try the kernel & ltsp-client from backports and it still had the problem
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and ltsp-client-core
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did a rebuild ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update-image
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and it still had exactly the same problem
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<alkisg>
Did you run update-kernels and update-initramfs inside the chroot?
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Put this file to pastebin: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom/ltsp
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...so that I see if it supports overlay fs or not
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Hers is mine, see that I have code there that checks for both UNION_TYPE=overlay and for UNION_TYPE=overlayfs
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*here: http://termbin.com/mc1r
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<map7`>
alkisg: I did the update-kernels but not the update-initramfs
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<alkisg>
(09:21:03 πμ) alkisg: Put this file to pastebin: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom/ltsp
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<map7`>
https://pastebin.com/ubcc19ZV
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<alkisg>
map7`: that's the same as mine, which is the latest upstream one
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It should support overlay fs fine
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So, back to my initial question, what's the output of `uname -r` in the client busybox
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Maybe you just haven't properly updated tftp...
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<map7`>
4.9.0-0.bpo.2-686
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which is the kernel I'm trying to load on the client
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<alkisg>
And what happens if you manually try this: modprobe overlay
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<map7`>
overlay not found in modules.dep
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maybe the backports kernel doesn't have overlay compiled in?
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<alkisg>
find /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/ -name '*overlay*'
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What's the output of that?
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<map7`>
https://pastebin.com/20XS8vfP
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<alkisg>
So sure it's there
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Did you omit it from the initramfs modules?
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Try the same command in busybox, find /lib -name...
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(not in the chroot of course, in /lib)
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<map7`>
Nothing comes up
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(I had to do a find /lib | grep overlay)
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because of busybox find doesn't support -name I think
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<alkisg>
grep MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
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On the server
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Output?
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<map7`>
MODULES=most
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<alkisg>
Ah sorry on the chroot
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grep MODULES /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
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<map7`>
same result
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I did type 'update-initramfs -k all -u' before
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in chroot
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is this incorrect?
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<alkisg>
update-initramfs -u is enough
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<map7`>
ok
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<alkisg>
Put this to pastebin: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/ltsp
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!termbin
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<ltsp>
termbin: To share the output of some command, run: command | nc termbin.com 9999 . This executes command , sends its output to termbin.com, and returns a URL. Paste this URL here to share the command output with us.
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<alkisg>
(that's a quicker way to use pastebin..)
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<map7`>
http://termbin.com/fmky
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<alkisg>
manual_add_modules overlay
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So it's supposed to properly add the module
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<map7`>
hmmmm
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I'm going to have to go now, but I'll have this test rig here to test anything on.
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<alkisg>
Well, next I would try `update-initramfs -u` in the chroot and `cpio -i /boot/initrd.img` etc, and maybe put some debugging printfs in the hooks to see why it doesn't work
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<map7`>
I think I'll upgrade to Stretch and that should fix things
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<alkisg>
It's supposed to work
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Yeah, go for that
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<map7`>
alkisg: bye, and thanks for the debugging
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<alkisg>
Bye
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<FojiKing>
thanks
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guys i need a little help
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can anyone help me???
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<||cw>
no help for the impatient!
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<quinox>
:)
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<megaVlad>
hellow
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<tremolo>
howdy
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<megaVlad>
I from Russia and i write Graduation work about integration ltsp in bank. So, I'm sorry for my English. I want use NBD and FUSE as file system
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It's a good idea? Or There are more successful solutions
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<drymis>
megaVlad: Yes, LTSP could work and can be very secure if configured to be so.
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megaVlad: Problems would include trying to run proprietary software ment for Windows. If the banking software can run on Linux or a web browser, then there would be no problem.
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