IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 November 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <vagrantc> no luck ?
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| 00:01 | <daya> vagrantc, luck , i can't see it,
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| 00:09 | <daya> vagrantc, when I run alsamixer it show, card:pulseaudio,chip:pulseaudio,Item:master,view:playback, and only one voluem bar,
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| 00:09 | vagrantc, I have also installed pulseaudio pkgs does it make sth wrong,
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| 00:10 | <vagrantc> sounds about right
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| 00:10 | "make sth wrong" ?
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| 00:11 | <daya> vagrantc, I mean I have installed pulseaudio pkg as it is not told in your documentation, and try to configure as told in pulseaudio.org,
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| 00:13 | <vagrantc> daya: ah. good luck.
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| 00:13 | daya: you'll then need to configure each and every application to use pulseaudio
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| 00:13 | <daya> vagrantc, oh,
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| 00:14 | <vagrantc> at least, i think so
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| 00:14 | <daya> vagrantc, I have tried it also for application like totem and xmms to use output plugin pulse but in vain,
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| 00:14 | <vagrantc> if the alsa -> pulseaudio support isn't working
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| 00:15 | <daya> vagrantc, Linux sound system is too congusing and difficult to understand,
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| 00:15 | <vagrantc> daya: this is with your modified packages, or with packages from debian.org ?
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| 00:15 | <daya> vagrantc, no I am in pure debian ethc, not in modified
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| 00:16 | etch
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc> ok
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| 00:22 | <daya> vagrantc, can't I download the whole tar pkg that you kept for etch-ltsp-backports
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| 00:23 | <vagrantc> daya: http://pkg-ltsp.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/ltsp/
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| 00:24 | daya: dget http://pkg-ltsp.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp_5.0.31debian2~0.etch.1.dsc
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| 00:24 | if you have devscripts installed
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| 00:26 | <Artemko> Tell please, whether it is possible to make, what OpenOffice it would be started as local_apps? And how it to make? I wish to lower loading on a server. And as in ltsp 5 to specify the coding, and that cyrillics on local device is displayed incorrectly
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| 00:27 | And still there is an appendix which everyone start in Wine, whether there is a sense to make administrative installation that all used one structure, whether will lower it loading?
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| 00:27 | <vagrantc> Artemko: it is possible, but it is not yet easy to do.
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| 00:28 | well, not sure on the wine stuff
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| 00:29 | <Artemko> vagrantc: and whether there is somewhere a documentation on it?
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> Artemko: not much, no
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| 00:51 | <daya> vagrantc, what it mean , "in my experience, KDE
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| 00:51 | and GNOME applications worked automatically, if the whole environments were
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| 00:51 | installed. some application",
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| 00:51 | <vagrantc> daya: if all of gnome and all of kde were installed ...
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| 00:52 | daya: i.e. apt-get install gnome ; apt-get install kde
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| 00:52 | <daya> vagrantc, In my system I have only gnome , Do I have to install kde as well,
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| 00:52 | <vagrantc> daya: if you want KDE applications to work
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| 00:52 | daya: but if you can't get xmms to work ... i don't think anything is going to work.
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| 00:53 | i probably missed some important step in the documentation
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| 00:53 | and i can't reproduce it for a few weeks
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| 00:55 | <daya> vagrantc,I have run apt-get install gnome, and it asks to install some pkgs,
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| 00:56 | <vagrantc> but if i remember correctly, my first test was without gnome installed ... just icewm and xmms
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| 00:56 | actually, gnome might work if xmms doesn't, because it can use esound ... but remote esound has some flaws
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| 00:57 | pulseaudio is way better
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| 01:07 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 01:07 | good luck daya
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| 03:26 | <Q-FUNK> yippee! the dbe62 is debugged! :D
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| 05:47 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, so we'll get a fixed amd ?
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| 05:48 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: X is what's broken.
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| 05:49 | <ogra> well, only amd exposes that fact :)
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| 05:50 | <Q-FUNK> too many API and ABI changes since 7.1 and only the 4 mainstream drivers have enough people to keep absolutely everything in sync.
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| 05:50 | the exact same source compiles just fine on any modular X, but X core since 1.3. is a real mess.
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| 05:51 | among other things, xrandr 1.2 simply isn't ready for public consumption, but it was released regardless.
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| 05:51 | it breaks dual-head setups and tons of other things.
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| 05:51 | I wouldn't be surprised if simply backdating xrander while keeping the existing core would fix everyone's pet bug.
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| 05:52 | ogra: and no, not only amd exposes it. all drivers other than the 4 mainstreams do.
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| 05:53 | <ogra> isnt xrandr at 1.3 already ?
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| 05:53 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: as I have said countless times, my laptop's siliconmotion also experiences the exact same symptoms as amd does.
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| 05:54 | no, not yet
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| 05:54 | and 1.3 still doesn't fix everythng that 1.2 broke
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| 05:54 | <ogra> i have no probs opn my matrox G400 here
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| 05:54 | <Q-FUNK> hello?
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| 05:54 | I already said that the 4 mainstream ones don't have any problem.
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| 05:54 | mga, ati, nv, intel
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| 05:55 | those have recieved minor changes to make them run cleanly on the new X core.
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| 05:55 | none of the other drivers did.
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| 05:55 | <ogra> i didnt know you count mga to the mainstream ;)
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| 05:56 | <Q-FUNK> so, no, amd is not the only one.
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| 05:56 | * ogra wouldnt anymore ... | |
| 05:56 | <ogra> well, i dont see it on VIA os SIS either
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| 05:57 | <Q-FUNK> in fact, if you bothered with reading all the FAQs that were written about the new X, you'd see that upstream clearly warns that all older drivers are gonna be in various states of breakage, starting with xrandr 1.2 and X-core 1.2
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| 05:57 | <ogra> actually all my 15 clients here run fine apart from the amd based ones
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| 05:58 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: I already said enough times that other drivers are affected in similar ways. it would be a good idea for you to listen.
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| 05:58 | <ogra> it isnt exposed on other drivers here, what shall i say, i cant reproduce it
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| 05:58 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: and contrary to the nonsense you have been spreading, no, downgrading to an older release of -amd doesn't fix it.
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| 05:59 | <ogra> thanks for the friendly words, polease ask someone else for support in the future
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| 05:59 | <Q-FUNK> X-core has changed. older drivers that haven't been upgraded to match progressively break as X evolves. it's as simple as that.
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| 06:04 | *sigh*
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| 06:14 | <yopla> hello,
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| 06:14 | <Q-FUNK> hi
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| 06:14 | <yopla> is it possible tou siable shutdown in ldm?
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| 06:14 | disable
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| 06:18 | <frownix> yopla, in what way? disable root to do "halt" or "shutdown -h now"?
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| 06:20 | <yopla> humm. I just would like to hide shutown un preference menu (gutsy). I down't know if it launch halt or shutdown
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| 06:22 | <frownix> hmm, in what preferences menu?
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| 06:22 | <yopla> login screen
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| 06:22 | <frownix> ah, gdm?
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| 06:22 | <yopla> no, ldm
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| 06:23 | <nubae> hi there... I've got a very strange error with users logging in... When they try to login, from the logs it shows they are being accepted, but the authentication lasts for ever and then they get logged out again
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| 06:23 | happens for every user bu the main superuser
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| 06:23 | <frownix> yopla, ah, ok..so they have their own login manager. sorry, no idea then
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| 06:24 | <nubae> what could be causing this?
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| 06:24 | <yopla> frownix: yes, ldm rocks. It uses ssh instead of XDMCP
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| 06:25 | nubae: have uyou riied failsafe session?
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| 06:26 | <nubae> I'm not onsite... I've just been called from the site though and non of my users can login, and when I try to do anything with sudo, it takes forever
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| 06:26 | I'm just wonderung what could be causing this
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| 06:26 | I'm trying ltsp-update-sshkeys now
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| 06:26 | its sat there for a minute authenticating sudo
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| 06:26 | very stranger
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| 06:27 | <yopla> can you ssh the thin clients?
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| 06:28 | <nubae> connection refused, but by default dont think u can do that, no?
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| 06:28 | <yopla> yes, no by default
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| 06:28 | note
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| 06:28 | not
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| 06:30 | you can do : chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 then apt-get install openssh-server then passwd to create a valid password for root
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| 06:30 | befor you can try login directly on server
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| 06:30 | with problematic users
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| 06:31 | <nubae> invoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "restart" failed.
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| 06:31 | dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure):
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| 06:32 | <nubae> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
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| 06:33 | <yopla> what does say df -h?
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| 06:33 | <nubae> df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
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| 06:34 | <yopla> err, exit to exit chroot
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| 06:34 | then tyr local login
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| 06:35 | <nubae> I'm not onsite
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| 06:35 | <yopla> you're on the server?
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| 06:36 | <nubae> Nov 16 13:35:13 192.168.0.3 kernel: [13855.768000] nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket - from syslog
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| 06:36 | yeah sshed in
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| 06:36 | gues thats just a zombie client
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| 06:37 | <yopla> nubae, yes perhaphs
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| 06:38 | can you do "ssh aprobuser@ltspserver"?
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| 06:38 | <nubae> yeah, takes for ever to authenticate though
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| 06:39 | <yopla> do you use sort of external authentication? (LDAP,nis,...)
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| 06:39 | <nubae> takes like 30 seconds from asking pass to letting me in
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| 06:39 | nope
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| 06:40 | <yopla> then it could be DNS server problem
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| 06:41 | are servers in /etc/resolv.conf pingable?
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| 06:41 | <nubae> well have local dns server
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| 06:41 | should I shut it down and try again?
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| 06:42 | <yopla> nope, just try "host oneclient.domaio"
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| 06:44 | <nubae> well, this might be the prob... I have a dynamic ip
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| 06:45 | <yopla> you have dyn IP on ltsp server?
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| 06:45 | <nubae> well for dns...
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| 06:45 | the internet ip is dynamic
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| 06:45 | so I use domainname.dyndns.org as my domain nem
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| 06:45 | <yopla> ho. And dou you have a local zone?
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| 06:46 | <nubae> yeah
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| 06:46 | I thought there would not be a problem assigning a dynamic domain address, but could this be the issue?
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| 06:48 | <yopla> internet public Adress is diferent from lAN
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| 06:48 | <nubae> ok, the domain address for search domainaddress.com in resolv.conf was incorrect
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| 06:49 | yeah I know... but in resolv.conf I've got both the local address and external address for those wishing to access from outside
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| 06:50 | am I doing something wrong?
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| 06:51 | yeah that must be it, switched off bind and now things go normal speed agian
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| 06:51 | again
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| 06:51 | <yopla> yes. if you have only one local dns server, the only "nameserver" line in /etc/resovl.conf shoud be 0.0.0.0 (local dns)
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| 06:52 | <nubae> right ok, but this was working for like a week
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| 06:52 | its now that it caused problems
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| 06:53 | <yopla> if it needs to query Internet, the "type hint" zone in /etc/bind9/named.conf is for this
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| 06:54 | <krishna> fellows, i'm in trouble; my ltsp clients do not load X. always say "(EE) no device found" and "no screens found" after xdebconfigurator since i've update from ltsp 4.2 to 5
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| 06:56 | <yopla> nubae it seems to be a problem with IP change from you provider.
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| 06:57 | <nubae> so I cant use dynamic ip then... ok, but still getting problems with local logins
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| 06:57 | on the ltsp client side
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| 06:57 | <yopla> krishna: try without xdebcoufigurator. (comment the line in lts.conf)
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| 06:58 | which dynamic ip you're talking about?
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| 06:59 | <nubae> on the server side
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| 06:59 | internet
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| 06:59 | not local
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| 07:00 | <yopla> humm. Your dns server is public?
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| 07:01 | (port 53 open from internet?)
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| 07:01 | <nubae> yes
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| 07:02 | actually it was at one time
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| 07:02 | its not anymore
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| 07:02 | shoudl it be?
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| 07:02 | the problem is I dont really understand dns that well
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| 07:03 | I set it up locally to get sessions moving faster, then tried to make it public by attaching a dyndns.org address
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| 07:03 | <yopla> no it doens't need to be public. As the only reason you need acces is to ssh your server.
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| 07:03 | <nubae> maybe I should forget about the public part and focus on getting it working locally
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| 07:03 | <krishna> yopla, there is no such line in my lts.conf, but seems to me that xdebconfigurator runs anyway
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| 07:03 | <nubae> yopla no, there is admin software that is required for web
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| 07:04 | but perhaps its better to put this on a seperate server
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| 07:04 | <yopla> not neceserly
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| 07:05 | <nubae> whats your recomendation, for dns, as bind wont start anymore
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| 07:05 | <yopla> Welle. It isn't so simple. But I try to explan
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| 07:06 | you need a working local zone
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| 07:07 | name isn't very important as it is only seen on the lan
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| 07:07 | <nubae> ok, I have mayfairacademy.dyndns.org for example
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| 07:09 | <ltsppbot> "Nubae" pasted "dns log" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/354
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| 07:09 | <nubae> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/354
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| 07:09 | <nubae> hehe, jsut thought about that
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| 07:10 | <yopla> humm, your zone isn't correct as it is rejected
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| 07:10 | <nubae> but it was working before
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| 07:11 | and havent touched it
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| 07:11 | it says something about ttl, and not sure what it means
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| 07:11 | <yopla> ttl is'nt so important as it can use default value
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| 07:12 | can you copy/paste our zone file?
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| 07:12 | <nubae> the local zone?
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| 07:13 | <yopla> yes mayfairacademy.dyndns.org.db
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| 07:14 | <ltsppbot> "Nubae" pasted "zone file" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/355
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| 07:17 | <yopla> OK
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| 07:17 | it seems correct
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| 07:18 | <nubae> well, just tried to start it again and its stuck there for ever
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| 07:20 | bind is running now, but my ssh session is frozen up
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| 07:20 | <yopla> oops
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| 07:20 | <nubae> I've got webmin running aswell
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| 07:20 | so from there I see the process is running
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| 07:20 | <yopla> try to ssh again
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| 07:21 | <nubae> yeah same thing, authentication takes for ever
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| 07:21 | why would it be timing out like that?
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| 07:22 | <yopla> it is the cause yes
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| 07:23 | name resolution isn't working well
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| 07:23 | <nubae> what could be interfering with that?
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| 07:24 | should I try restarting the server or networking?
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| 07:24 | <yopla> put what you have beafor in /etc/resolv.conf
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| 07:25 | <nubae> well, resolv.conf now has this: search mayfairacademy.dyndns.org
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| 07:25 | nameserver 192.168.0.254
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| 07:25 | nameserver 80.58.61.254
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| 07:25 | nameserver 80.58.61.250
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| 07:25 | shoudl I take the external nameservers out?
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| 07:25 | <yopla> no its ok like that
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| 07:26 | <nubae> could dhcp be messing with this, I have mayfairacademy.dyndns.org defined in there too
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| 07:26 | with each client defined by host and ip
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| 07:27 | <yopla> your /etc/hosts contains clients?
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| 07:27 | <nubae> btw, thanks for taking so much time to help me on this... you're a godsend
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| 07:27 | no
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| 07:27 | just dhcpd.conf
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| 07:28 | <yopla> at least, put one line per host ine this file
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| 07:28 | IP client.mayfairacademy.dyndns.org client
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| 07:28 | <nubae> right ok
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| 07:29 | <yopla> it isn't the best solution as your park could grow and its difficult to maintain.
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| 07:30 | <nubae> 127.0.0.1 localhost
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| 07:30 | 192.168.1.42 mayservex.mayfairacademy.dyndns.org mayservex
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| 07:30 | 192.168.0.254 mayserve.mayfairacademy.dyndns.org mayserve
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| 07:30 | thts what I have right now
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| 07:30 | x being the external nic
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| 07:30 | <yopla> ideally the same file should be on clients
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| 07:30 | <nubae> this is ltsp though
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| 07:30 | I only have one server and terminal clients
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| 07:31 | <yopla> with this it should work better
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| 07:32 | <nubae> when u make changes to /etc/hosts and resolv.conf do u have to restart bind?
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| 07:32 | <yopla> no
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| 07:32 | <nubae> ok, good, so I can test it with one client then?
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| 07:33 | <yopla> you even could try to stop your bind server and delete it from your /etc/resovl.conf
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| 07:33 | <nubae> yeah did that already and it helped
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| 07:33 | for a second or two
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| 07:33 | put people still couldnt login
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| 07:34 | anyway, this seems to work:
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| 07:34 | sysadmin@mayfairacademy:~$ ping office2.mayfairacademy.dyndns.org
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| 07:34 | PING office2.mayfairacademy.dyndns.org (192.168.0.34) 56(84) bytes of data.
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| 07:34 | 64 bytes from office2.mayfairacademy.dyndns.org (192.168.0.34): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.180 ms
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| 07:34 | doesnt help with the authentication timeout though, this must be something else
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| 07:35 | <yopla> hummm
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| 07:36 | <nubae> I'm going to restart the server
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| 07:36 | the startup logs might reveal something
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| 07:40 | <nubae> wont shut down
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| 07:40 | <yopla> ouch
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| 07:44 | <nubae> I guess now it has done, but took almost 5 mins
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| 07:45 | I guess if I had a static ip non of this would be happening right?
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| 07:45 | <yopla> but your ip is static
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| 07:45 | <nubae> not external
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| 07:46 | <yopla> 192.168.0.254
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| 07:46 | <nubae> I'm masquarading my connections from the external to the internal
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| 07:46 | yeah that ones static
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| 07:46 | <nubae> but i've got dydns.org defining mayfairacademy to my external ip
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| 07:46 | and thats in dns
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| 07:46 | local dns
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| 07:47 | <yopla> all your clients should be in this subnet
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| 07:47 | <nubae> they are all in 192.168.0.0
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| 07:47 | oooh this doesnt look good, server is not coming back up
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| 07:49 | <yopla> you should try somthin like mayfairacademy.local for all your local zone. You should'nt be cused
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| 07:49 | confused
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| 07:49 | <nubae> right but I hoped that the local users could use the same address as the external users
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| 07:49 | for web
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| 07:49 | thats the only reason I have it like that
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| 07:52 | <yopla> You're right. and it shoud work any like you did.
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| 07:52 | anyway
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| 07:52 | <nubae> could it be anything else
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| 07:52 | not dns related?
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| 07:52 | <yopla> dunno.
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| 07:53 | free disk space isenough?
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| 07:53 | <nubae> yeah for sure
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| 07:53 | was at 50% last I checked
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| 07:53 | /home is on another disk
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| 07:54 | <yopla> and this one?
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| 07:55 | <nubae> 250 gigs
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| 07:55 | no problems there
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| 07:56 | I'm going to have to get onsite and sort this out, the server is no longer reachable after restart
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| 07:57 | could it be a hackin attempt?
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| 07:57 | I didnt see anything in the logs, but so much going wrong points to that...
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| 07:58 | <yopla> yes you really should
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| 07:58 | good luck
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| 08:03 | <nubae> thanmks for everything
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| 08:29 | <cliebow> !g]
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| 08:29 | <ltspbot> cliebow: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
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| 08:41 | <yopla> !g
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| 08:41 | <ltspbot> yopla: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:41 | <yopla> lol
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> :)
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| 08:41 | morning
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| 08:42 | <cliebow> showoff!!!!!!!!
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| 08:42 | <yopla> small question for the morning. Is there a wya to disable shutdown buton on ldm?
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| 08:44 | <Gadi> yopla: feisty or gutsy?
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| 08:44 | <yopla> gutsy
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> hmm... give me a sec to boot my lappy and I'll take a quick peek at the code for ya
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| 08:45 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> or ask sbalneav
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| 08:45 | :)
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| 08:45 | !s
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| 08:45 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:45 | <sbalneav> Gadi: Hey, been playing around with that pget.awk
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> and?
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| 08:45 | <sbalneav> Looks awesome, might do exactly what we want.
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| 08:45 | <yopla> scotty is sbalneav?
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> sbalneav: amazing what 5 secs on google will do :)
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| 08:46 | <cliebow> you betcha!!
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| 08:46 | <sbalneav> My full name is Scott Balneaves :)
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> yopla: u bet
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| 08:46 | "Man of Mystery"
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| 08:46 | <yopla> lol din't expect so much details :)
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| 08:47 | <sbalneav> Anyway, had a nice email chat with the guy
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| 08:47 | The link you provided didn't have a license, so I asked him if he'd consider GPL'ing it
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| 08:47 | turns out he already has :)
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| 08:47 | <Gadi> nice
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| 08:48 | <sbalneav> Plus, I encouraged him to set up a public site on launchpad or sourceforge for it
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| 08:48 | <yopla> is tahre althoug a way to customize ldm? (add text for exemple)
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| 08:48 | * Gadi would investigate speed diff on long lts.confs | |
| 08:48 | <sbalneav> seeing as how he's actively maintaining it, and it's being used by lots of people.
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> some of us have longer lts.confs than others ;)
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| 08:48 | <yopla> ghghghgh so poor english
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| 08:48 | <sbalneav> yopla: Sure, just grab the source.
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| 08:48 | * cliebow cliebow blames his on good typing practices | |
| 08:49 | <yopla> apt-get source ldm?
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| 08:49 | <sbalneav> Gadi: Can you send me an example "long" lts.conf
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| 08:49 | yopla: maybe, or check out from bzr
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| 08:49 | <Gadi> sbalneav: I can prolly generate one....
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| 08:49 | we would write a wrapper to pget.awk, ya?
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| 08:49 | something that understands "LIKE" and such
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| 08:49 | <sbalneav> yeah
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| 08:50 | but so far, things like:
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| 08:50 | ./pget.awk SECTION=Default lts.conf | sed 's/[ \t]*=[ \t]*/=/' | sed 's/^/export/' > goo
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| 08:50 | produce nice things like:
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| 08:50 | export LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 08:50 | export X_COLOR_DEPTH=64
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| 08:50 | export SomeParam="Booyeah \" foo \" "
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| 08:51 | <Gadi> nice
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| 08:51 | <sbalneav> this can then be .'ed by anything that needs it.
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| 08:51 | * Gadi likes the better handling of quotes | |
| 08:52 | <sbalneav> I think the plan will be to parse lts.conf ONCE, and produce a .'able file, and from then on, just use that wherever needed.
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| 08:52 | * Gadi nods | |
| 08:53 | <sbalneav> So, that would solve the whole "binaries in ltsp core" problem.
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| 08:54 | * Gadi shrugs - doesnt know what the big deal is | |
| 08:54 | <Gadi> :)
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| 08:54 | well, /me knows
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| 08:54 | just doesnt care as much as everyone else
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| 09:00 | <daduke> Hi to all. Is this the right place to ask about a problem w/ LTSP on etch concerning local usb drives?
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| 09:01 | <sbalneav> Yup
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| 09:03 | <daduke> sbalneav: great. I got everything up and running including sound, but the local devices don't work. One question would be whether the ltspfs and ltspfsd packages are necessary. Web sources disagree on this, but we built backports and installed them.
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| 09:05 | <sbalneav> ltspfsd is needed in the chroot
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| 09:05 | ltspfs on the server
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| 09:08 | <daduke> sbalneav: all right, this is what I got. The client throws messages upon pluggin in the stick, ltspfs_fstab shows sda1, but it doesn't seem to get thru to the server. I tried a manual mount as suggested on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev, but I don't have any /var/run/ldm_socket*
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Take a look in /lib/udev for the add-fstab-entry helper
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| 09:10 | it could be an older one on etch.
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| 09:11 | <daduke> sbalneav: got it. What about it?
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| 09:12 | <sbalneav> Well, check and see where it's writing to the socket
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| 09:19 | <daduke> sbalneav: thing is, I don't have any /var/run/ldm_socket*
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| 09:19 | sbalneav: I also get a warning about a missing delayed_mounter. Problem?
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| 09:21 | <sbalneav> Yes, probably
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| 09:22 | <sbalneav> Where does the ssh line look like it's connecting to in the add-fstab-entry script?
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| 09:23 | <daduke> sbalneav: ssh -X -S ${LDM_SOCKET} ${SERVER} "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter ${MOUNTPOINT} add"
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| 09:23 | <sbalneav> look and see where ldm_socket's being set.
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| 09:24 | etch is using the old stuff, so the debug page isn't accurate for you
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| 09:24 | probably in /tmp
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| 09:25 | <daduke> sbalneav: I don't find any. I got a .ltspfs-socket in /tmp, but nothing ldm
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| 09:26 | <sbalneav> That's it
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| 09:26 | <daduke> sbalneav: I guess it is. But why and what to do about it?
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| 09:27 | <sbalneav> Well, you'll have to use that for the socket in the line from the debug document.
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| 09:27 | Someone from the debian side of things should come up with a debug doc :)
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| 09:27 | <daduke> sbalneav: in ldm I have 's = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, ...)', but I don't know python enough to tell whether that's supposed to create the socket
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| 09:28 | <sbalneav> You'll want to try:
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| 09:29 | ssh -S /tmp/.ltspfs-socket 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add"
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> Mornin' Q-FUNK
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| 09:30 | <Q-FUNK> !s
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| 09:30 | <ltspbot> Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:31 | <Q-FUNK> Evenin' sbalneav!
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| 09:32 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: did you have any luck with the patch attached to bug #140051 ?
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| 09:32 | <sbalneav> Yeah, it doesn't crash on autodetect now, which is nice!
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| 09:32 | <daduke> sbalneav: /tmp/.ltspfs-socket is empty and I get an 'X connection to localhost..' error
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| 09:32 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: ok, that's one down, then :)
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| 09:33 | sbalneav: here, I cannot get any X at all
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| 09:33 | <sbalneav> But it doesn't come up with the correct res, either, but that's notedin the bug
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| 09:33 | <Q-FUNK> right
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| 09:33 | <sbalneav> daduke: What's the exact error message?
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| 09:33 | <Q-FUNK> can you add a comment stating both of these to the bug?
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| 09:35 | dilinger promised to take over -amd maintenance (and generaly anything Geode) in debian/ubuntu, so it should be soon fixed, but it's still nice if we can orient his work by reporting what works and what doesn't.
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| 09:35 | btw, is it normal to end up not getting any X on the client if the server is also used as a workstation?
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| 09:35 | <Gadi> sbalneav: you tested on gutsy?
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| 09:36 | <sbalneav> Sure. I'll comment thismorening
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> with your own deb?
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| 09:36 | <sbalneav> Gadi: yep
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> could you post it somewhere
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| 09:36 | <sbalneav> Did it a couple nights ago.
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> I'd like to test it as well
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| 09:36 | <sbalneav> sure, when I get home tonight, I'll set it up and maybe get it going to my PPA
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> danka
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| 09:37 | <sbalneav> de nada
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| 09:37 | <Q-FUNK> now that you remind me, I should probably enable my PPA and upload all those ubuntu-specific test packages there.
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| 09:37 | <Q-FUNK> I'm tempted to build one against 2.7.7.3 too, just to see if it improves anything
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| 09:38 | <daduke> sbalneav: X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
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| 09:38 | sbalneav: I suppose this is because the socket is empty?
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| 09:40 | <sbalneav> sockets ARE empty
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| 09:40 | <daduke> sbalneav: oops.
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| 09:40 | <sbalneav> what happens if you do a "ssh -S /tmp/blah date?
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| 09:42 | <daduke> sbalneav: I'm on the terminal server
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| 09:43 | <sbalneav> You should be on the thin client itself
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| 09:43 | as per the first few steps
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| 09:43 | ah, sorry
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| 09:43 | <daduke> sbalneav: no sorry, what I meant was I get loggin into the TS
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| 09:44 | <sbalneav> ssh -S /tmp/blah 192.168... date
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| 09:44 | <daduke> sbalneav: and 192.168. being the TS IP, right?
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| 09:44 | <sbalneav> after you exit from the server
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| 09:44 | right
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| 09:44 | <daduke> sbalneav: works. shows the date
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| 09:45 | <sbalneav> brb workping
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| 09:47 | <ogra> warren, around ?
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| 09:50 | <cliebow> havnt seen him today...
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| 09:51 | <ogra> ah, well, tomorrow is another day
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| 09:51 | was offtopic anyway for ltsp :)
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| 09:54 | <daduke> sbalneav: when I execute the ltspfsmounter ssh, I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong auth" in the TS log.
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| 09:58 | <ogra> daduke, sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/160420
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| 10:00 | <daduke> ogra: indeed it does.
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| 10:01 | <ogra> there is a workaround listed
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| 10:02 | <daduke> ogra: still reading....
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| 10:05 | ogra: thanks, trying now....
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| 10:12 | <jcastro> ogra: can you forward me that LaserRock pic when you get a chance?
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| 10:15 | <daduke> sbalneav, ogra: now I get 'couldn't read LTSPFS_TOKEN atom' on the client, server seems fine
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| 10:18 | <sbalneav> Well, looks like it's got the newer ltspfs, but doesn't have the updated ldm that sets the token.
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| 10:18 | So, someone hasn't backported the new ldm yet.
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| 10:19 | My guess would be to talk to vagrantc.
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| 10:19 | !seen vagrantc
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| 10:19 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 9 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <vagrantc> good luck daya
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| 10:20 | <sbalneav> !seen otavio
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| 10:20 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: otavio was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <otavio> vagrantc: as I've done for usplash
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| 10:20 | <daduke> sbalneav: yeah, the ltspfs* packages are backports from sid
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| 10:20 | <ogra> they need the new ldm
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| 10:20 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 10:21 | <daduke> sbalneav, ogra: backport ldm then too?
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| 10:21 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 10:21 | <ogra> jcastro, thats in the set which is still on my cam ... (which currently is lend to my GFs brother but likely back tonight)
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| 10:21 | i'll pull them down as soon as i got it here
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| 10:22 | sbalneav, i'm still scratching my head how that silly DISPLAY variable got in there
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> yeah.
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| 10:22 | hey, you do an update yet?
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| 10:22 | <daduke> ogra: perhaps it's not so wrong - my problem was that my testing TS has a local X which makes the ssh X :11
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| 10:23 | <ogra> nope, that will also take a while
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| 10:23 | it has to go through the SRU process, they will inspect the changes very closely and then it needs through the proposed repo
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| 10:24 | where it will sit until enough testing was done
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| 10:24 | stable release updates are a PITA
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| 10:26 | <daduke> ogra, sbalneav: did a ldm backport from sid, ldm 5.0.39debian1, still the same atom thing
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| 10:31 | <daduke> ogra, sbalneav: with the new ldm I cannot log in at all.
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| 10:33 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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| 10:33 | <ogra> hey jammcq
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| 10:34 | <Guaraldo> Hi, jammcq!
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| 10:36 | <daduke> gotta go, back on monday...
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| 10:36 | ogra, sbalneav: thanks guys, getting close....
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| 10:37 | <ogra> daduke, talk to vagrantc, i think he got the new ldm working
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| 10:38 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: May I ask you a favor?
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| 10:41 | <jcastro> ogra: no rush!
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| 10:41 | <ogra> but metallica ?
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| 10:42 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: Can ltsp-br channel get in the pastebot channel combo?
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| 10:43 | <prpplague> jammcq: greetings
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| 10:43 | <jammcq> Guaraldo: umm, we'd have to ask scotty how to do that
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| 10:43 | prpplague: howdie
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| 10:44 | * jammcq just got back from a tour of a Gulfstream G-IV private jet. | |
| 10:44 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Hey, Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 10:44 | <prpplague> jammcq: how did you swing that?
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| 10:44 | <jammcq> I know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who is a flight attendent on the plane
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| 10:44 | <sbalneav> me?!
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| 10:44 | heh
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| 10:44 | <jammcq> sbalneav: hey
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| 10:44 | <sbalneav> hey
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| 10:44 | <hriday> hi, i want to test a ltsp installation using my compaq v3000 latop with nforce4 chipset, could some body tell me which image suits it
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| 10:45 | <sbalneav> Is it on www.ltsp.org?
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| 10:45 | <jammcq> Guaraldo: sorry, I was thinking you wanted ltsp-bot
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| 10:45 | I can do the pastebot thing
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| 10:45 | <sbalneav> jammcq: yeah, I've already got them a bot.
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| 10:45 | <jammcq> sbalneav: u rock
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| 10:45 | <sbalneav> it's just the pb he wants
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| 10:46 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: Wonderfull... We have many users asking things that need to paste configurations... so it will help us a lot!
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| 10:56 | <hriday> what is the total package size when we do ltsp-build-client ?
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| 10:59 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: Thanks!!!
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| 11:02 | <sbalneav> hriday: The size of the chroot it creates, you mean? couple hundred megabytes, usually
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| 11:03 | <hriday> no, i mean how many MB's it downloads
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| 11:03 | <sbalneav> Prolly about the same.
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| 11:03 | since it downloads everything it needs for the chroot.
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| 11:03 | <hriday> actually i have a very slow connection and ltsp-build-client is also not indictaing anyhting
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| 11:03 | <sbalneav> What distro are you using?
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| 11:03 | <hriday> debian etch
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| 11:04 | <ogra> it downloads about 120M
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| 11:04 | unpacked thats about 300M on disk
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| 11:04 | <sbalneav> You should be able to create the chroot from the cd
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| 11:04 | <hriday> ok, that means a couple of hours.. is there any iso
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| 11:04 | <sbalneav> ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
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| 11:04 | I beleive
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| 11:04 | <hriday> yes but which
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| 11:04 | cd
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| 11:05 | <sbalneav> Debian install cd, I'm guessing
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| 11:05 | <hriday> is there any ltsp cd for that matter
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| 11:05 | <sbalneav> Works that way with Ubuntu, anyway.
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| 11:05 | no
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| 11:05 | since we now build using the distro's packages, it's the distro's cd you use.
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| 11:05 | The stuff LTSP works on now is very small, a few megabytes only.
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| 11:06 | <warren> sbalneav, hey scotty
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| 11:06 | <sbalneav> Hey warren.
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| 11:06 | <warren> sbalneav, had a chance to redo the structure?
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| 11:06 | <sbalneav> Yeah, I've done ldm, jetpipe, and ltspfs
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| 11:06 | working on the ltsp core now, too.
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| 11:07 | in between answering questions, buying my wife a birthday present, doing my regular day job, etc :)
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| 11:07 | <ogra> sbalneav, i have the structure mostly done
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| 11:07 | <sbalneav> Could someone PLEASE ADD ANOTHER 12 HOURS TO THE DAY?!?!?!
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| 11:07 | 24 hours isn't enough it seems :)
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| 11:08 | ogra: Got it posted somewheres?
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| 11:08 | <ogra> i was waiting for the branch
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| 11:08 | <sbalneav> Well, I was trying to get the structure in place before the branch :)
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| 11:08 | so, chicken and egg.
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| 11:08 | :)
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| 11:09 | <ogra> yeah, i have no personal server atm ... :/ i dont want a one timer branch on LP
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| 11:09 | lets see if i can get it up on people.u.c
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| 11:09 | <sbalneav> hold on
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| 11:10 | <hriday> i did ltsp-build-client --mirror file///cdrom, it proceded with error could not find these debs: locales
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| 11:11 | <ogra> your cdrom needs to be mounted under /cdrom indeed
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| 11:12 | (if you have the iso you can also loop mount that there, that speeds everything up)
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| 11:12 | <hriday> yeah the cdrom is mounted before i did that
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| 11:12 | <sbalneav> ogra: check priv
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| 11:19 | <cliebow> ogra:i added line to inetd.conf to run nbdrootd on 2001 for opt/ltsp/powerpc..and added to yaboot.conf nbdport=2001..
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| 11:20 | i see mounting rofs on /root/rofs failed: invslid arg
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| 11:20 | running init.bottom mount /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev..
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| 11:21 | <ogra> the nbd mount fauiled before that i guess
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| 11:21 | <cliebow> failed no such file
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| 11:21 | yes i think so..
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| 11:21 | <ogra> check the daemon.log on the server
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| 11:21 | <cliebow> k
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| 11:21 | <ogra> if there is anything with the permissions of the image for example
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| 11:22 | <cliebow> avahi-autoipd; successfully csalled root
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| 11:22 | last line is interface not suitable
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| 11:25 | <yopla> OK, I'm back. I've looked in ldm source to custumize greeter. I think all is in ldmgreeter/src
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| 11:26 | <cliebow> hang a sec...
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| 11:27 | <yopla> I think I know how to remove Shutown menu item in greeter.c
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| 11:28 | <cliebow> sbalneav do 8~)
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| 11:29 | <yopla> but as I'm note gtk developper I can't ad a labael text below the username textbox
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| 12:14 | <cliebow> this is wierd..tftp wont finish downloading initramfs now..
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| 12:32 | <ogra> sbalneav, all pushed
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| 12:32 | i have a packaging branch for ubuntu as well
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| 12:41 | <nuba2> anyone familiar with the tg3 driver?
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| 12:42 | this isnt really edubuntu specific though, but my server's second eth port just crashed and causes the kernel to freeze up
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| 12:43 | hp support were told me they dont support debian, even though this a kernel specific error
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| 12:44 | I'm just wondering if this could a common issue with the tg3 driver, as it seems pretty new
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| 12:44 | <ogra> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/159808 ?
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| 12:45 | <nuba2> looks like the same thing... its happened 2 times already
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| 12:46 | last time I left it alone and switched to a single ethernet setup, but its less than ideal
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| 12:46 | after a while I checked and it was working again
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| 12:46 | I guess I'll add my 2 cents to launchpad thread
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| 12:47 | <ogra> yeah
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| 12:47 | the dev team was travelling for two weeks ... we just catch up on work again
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| 12:47 | the kernel team will eventually get to that bug
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| 12:47 | <nuba2> it doesnt seem ubuntu specific though
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| 12:48 | on the net I've found references to the kernel message for redhat and novell based systems too
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| 12:48 | <ogra> ah
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| 12:48 | well, there might be a fix upstream
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| 12:49 | <nuba2> maybe there is another driver that can be used?
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| 13:20 | <ogra1> woah
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| 13:21 | * ogra1 just connected his laptop directly through his new SDSL line (no firewall etc yet) .... | |
| 13:21 | <ogra1> i got three nbd mount attempts on my lappie in 10 min already :)
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| 13:21 | <jammcq> ogra1: somebody is probing you,eh?
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| 13:22 | <ogra1> yeah, funny
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| 13:22 | <stgraber> ogra1: how fast is the new line ?
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| 13:22 | <cliebow> this is wierd..tftp wont finish downloading initramfs now..
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| 13:22 | <ogra1> i had ttally forgotten how the net feels without router or firewall :)
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| 13:22 | stgraber, just 2M .... but symmetrical \o/
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| 13:23 | i had to do it on a business contract ... they dont sell these to normal customers
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| 13:23 | but that got me an 6h SLA alongside ... so not bad at all :)
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| 13:24 | <scrapbunny> has anyone noticed a difference in overall speed on clients running gnome vs kde or xfds?
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| 13:25 | <ogra1> scrapbunny, there shouldnt be any difference client side
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| 13:25 | on the server side the load will be higher with the first two though
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| 13:25 | * ogra1 waves to vagrantc | |
| 13:25 | <vagrantc> ogra1: hey
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| 13:27 | <scrapbunny> i am trying to make sure the speed on my clients is as fast as possible. i am planning on having 32 clients running and the 14 i have up now are running a lot slower then I thought they would
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| 13:28 | <ogra1> well, its all abuot the server
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| 13:28 | the only thing clients affect speed wise is the boot process
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| 13:30 | <scrapbunny> i have checked that and even asked here and was told that i have a pretty beefy server. maybe i am just trying to run apps that are not ment for thin clients
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| 13:30 | <vagrantc> well, depends on how slow the clients are if you're using LDM's ssh sessions
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| 13:30 | <ogra1> indeed
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| 13:30 | below 200MHz will hurt
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| 13:31 | vagrantc, i just noted ... i'm directly connected to the net currently .... three nbd mount attempts from the web during 10 min :)
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| 13:31 | <scrapbunny> i have the default edubuntu 7.10 set up and have been having issues bulk adding users so i am on my third clean install
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| 13:32 | as i'm sure you can tell from when i have been on here before i am a newbie to thin clients and ubuntu
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| 13:32 | :-D
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| 13:33 | <ogra1> well, KDE and GNOME will take a similar amount of ressources ...
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| 13:33 | XFCE will be slightly lighter but also take a lot of comfort as a price for that
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| 13:33 | <rjune_> and your first born child.
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| 13:34 | <ogra1> KDE and GNOME require around 128M pre running session .. XFCE might be at 96
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| 13:34 | imho its usually not worth the loss on functionallity to use xfce ...
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| 13:34 | <vagrantc> ogra1: directly connected to the net ... ??
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| 13:34 | <ogra1> it used to be very lightweight but that changed over time
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| 13:35 | vagrantc, got a new line today, i'm just testing the first connect
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| 13:35 | which i did manually from my lappie
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| 13:35 | <vagrantc> ogra1: nbd mount attempts ?
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| 13:35 | ogra1: or just random port scans ?
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| 13:35 | <ogra1> yeah, on my eth0 :)
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| 13:35 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 13:36 | <ogra1> Nov 16 20:13:31 laptop nbd_server[6322]: connect from 85.190.0.3, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 13:36 | Nov 16 20:13:31 laptop nbd_server[6323]: connect from 85.190.0.3, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 13:36 | Nov 16 20:13:31 laptop nbd_server[6322]: Size of exported file/device is 147529728
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| 13:36 | <ogra1> :)
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| 13:36 | etc ...
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| 13:36 | <jammcq> port scans
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| 13:36 | <vagrantc> i found xfce to be *way* lighter at least ona freind's powerpc ... switching their ubuntu from gnome to xfce freed up about 90MB of ram.
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| 13:36 | and loss of functionality was minimal
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| 13:36 | <ogra1> jammcq, Size of exported file/device is 147529728 is written after the connect established
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| 13:37 | <jammcq> hmm, who in the world is gonna know what to do with a nbd mount?
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| 13:37 | <vagrantc> ogra1: at least they're not hitting your nbd-swap ports :)
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| 13:37 | <jammcq> i'm guessing it's random poking
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| 13:37 | <ogra1> vagrantc, well, depends if you talk about plain xfce (and having to use xterm for half of your stuff) or about a fully fledged desktop with thunar etc
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| 13:38 | <vagrantc> ogra1: well, i'm talking about the fully fledged desktop ...
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| 13:38 | <ogra1> jammcq, well, there is nothing stopping them from ounting my squashfs :)
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| 13:38 | *mounting
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| 13:38 | <jammcq> brains
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| 13:38 | that's what is stopping them
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| 13:38 | <dberkholz> xfce was still too slow on this powerpc. i had to switch to fluxbox.
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| 13:38 | <vagrantc> ogra1: a huge savings in ram ... if you've got 256MB, xfce is a huge improvement... maybe if you have 512MB of ram, you wouldn't notice
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| 13:38 | <ogra1> vagrantc, really ? i tried xubuntu-desktop recently ... that was only saving between 10-20M
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| 13:39 | <vagrantc> ogra1: that was my experience as of a month or two ago
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| 13:39 | <ogra1> i also tried it on the classmate ... didnt really help ....
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| 13:39 | and there i got only 256M
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| 13:39 | <dberkholz> if you're running gnome and kde apps, you kinda lose the benefit.
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| 13:39 | <vagrantc> maybe there's something freakish with powerpc arch ?
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| 13:39 | <ogra1> indeed
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| 13:40 | <vagrantc> main applications used were openoffice and firefox ... so other than sharing gtk, pretty desktop agnostic (though RAM hungry)
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| 13:40 | <Q-FUNK> xfce is nice. icewm even nicer.
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| 13:41 | <vagrantc> yeah, i prefer handing people icewm
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| 13:41 | if you're really looking for lightweight
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| 13:44 | <Q-FUNK> vagrantc: although I have yet to figure out why esound is a dependency of icewm.
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| 13:45 | vagrantc: it often feels as if Marko, upstream, eventually wanted to implement proper session management, including a desktop sound daemon, but never got around completing it.
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| 13:45 | <vagrantc> Q-FUNK: yeah, that does seem odd
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| 13:47 | <Q-FUNK> btw, does anybody know if debian or ubuntu ever had the intention of migrating all older DE to the XDG menu format and to get rid of the debian-specific menu format?
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| 13:48 | <cliebow> maybe there's something freakish with powerpc arch ? I"LL SAY!!
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| 13:48 | <vagrantc> seems like powerpc consumes way more ram to get the same functionality ... and the binaries are bigger
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| 13:49 | <cliebow> this g4 is swaped out a little at 500 meg ram
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| 13:54 | <Drakeweb> hi cliebow
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| 13:54 | we were talking a day or so ago
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| 13:55 | <Drakeweb> about ltsp on a netvista 2200
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| 13:55 | and kernel 2.6
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| 13:55 | <cliebow> ahh yes..
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| 13:56 | <Drakeweb> you were looking into the 2.6 port that was on sourceforge
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| 13:56 | <cliebow> and you solved it?
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| 13:56 | <Drakeweb> ha ha ha
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| 13:56 | sorry!
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| 13:56 | <cliebow> i wrote the guy..he never wrote back..
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| 13:56 | <Drakeweb> I'm not that smart
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| 13:56 | I'm looking for answers!
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| 13:56 | I've actually tried running it
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| 13:56 | on a 2200
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| 13:57 | <cliebow> ill set up something here..ive been head banging with this silly ibook all afternoon
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| 13:57 | <Drakeweb> but it hangs half way through booting
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| 13:57 | <cliebow> with 2.4 or 2.6??
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| 13:57 | <Drakeweb> just like the 2.4 kernel does
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| 13:57 | <cliebow> ahh
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| 13:57 | <cliebow> any messages to show where you are???
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| 13:58 | in the process??
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| 13:58 | <Drakeweb> and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to figure out the minuti (sp?)
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| 13:58 | <cliebow> ethereal??
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| 13:58 | <Drakeweb> tell you what, I'll go boot it up and get some info
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| 14:05 | ok, so it will boot from tftp
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| 14:06 | download the kernel (2.6.20.3)
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| 14:06 | and run
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| 14:06 | but it hangs trying to access nfs
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| 14:06 | <cliebow> nfs server ok otherwise?
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| 14:07 | <Drakeweb> nope, not installed (ltsp5 and all that!)
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| 14:07 | <cliebow> where is it getting its initramfs?
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| 14:07 | <Drakeweb> how would i find that out please?
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| 14:08 | <cliebow> Balls..too many dhcp servers..
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| 14:08 | <Drakeweb> ?
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| 14:08 | <cliebow> the 2.4 kernel must hve an initrd tagged to it..
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| 14:09 | <warren> jammcq, sweet, I got fedora running on the T1000
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| 14:09 | <Drakeweb> 2.6 identifies the servers correctly
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| 14:09 | <warren> jammcq, boot up took maybe 1.5 minutes
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| 14:09 | <Drakeweb> but picks up no rootpath
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| 14:09 | <ogra__> warren, native or ltsp5 ?
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| 14:09 | <Drakeweb> (not having nfs installed)
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| 14:09 | <warren> ogra__, kind of an ugly hybrid at the moment
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| 14:10 | <ogra__> well, applause anyway :)
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| 14:10 | <warren> ogra__, did you finish the mkdist script? I'd like to see the latest version
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| 14:10 | <ogra__> http://www.ltsp.org/~ogra/ltsp/
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| 14:10 | <warren> X seems to be really slow
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| 14:10 | I think it is running vesa
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| 14:10 | <ogra__> its only the basic skeleton, feel free to add stuff
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| 14:10 | using ldm ? or XDMCP
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| 14:11 | <warren> XDMCP
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| 14:11 | <ogra__> hmm
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| 14:11 | <cliebow> ok..i have a netvista booting 4.1/2.4.19 here..
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| 14:11 | * vagrantc wonders when vagrant gets an account at ltsp.org | |
| 14:11 | <cliebow> ill shovel a diff kernel in
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| 14:11 | <warren> yeah, it is running vesa
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| 14:12 | <Drakeweb> ok
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| 14:12 | I get
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| 14:12 | bootserver=192.168.1.254
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| 14:12 | <vagrantc> ogra__: hey, you never signed my gpg key ... you lost that piece of paper didn't you?
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| 14:12 | <Drakeweb> rootserver=192.168.1.254
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| 14:13 | rootpath=
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| 14:13 | then a VFS: error about cannot find nfs or block (0,0)
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| 14:13 | <ogra__> vagrantc, nope, i'm just an evil slacker, still got it
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| 14:13 | <warren> The T1000 really isn't that slow.
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| 14:14 | <ogra__> its 900MHz, isnt it ?
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| 14:14 | <warren> ogra__, 200MHz
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| 14:14 | <ogra__> huh
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| 14:14 | oh
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| 14:14 | heh, messed that up with the T1200
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| 14:14 | you mean the ebox :)
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| 14:15 | * ogra__ still thinks its the worst HW he's seen the last years ... | |
| 14:15 | <warren> it is faster than qemu
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| 14:15 | much faster
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| 14:16 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 14:16 | <warren> and much faster than the thincan
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| 14:16 | oddly enough
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| 14:16 | <ogra__> that needs a sis driver
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| 14:16 | there is also a sisfb module
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| 14:17 | abd there is no sound driver for recent kernels
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| 14:17 | <warren> ogra__, yeah, that's a big drawback
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| 14:17 | <ogra__> i hacked up the oss driver for the gutsy kernel but only got veryy choppy results
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| 14:17 | <warren> choppy
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| 14:17 | gutsy has OSS?
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| 14:17 | we don't even ship it anymore
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| 14:17 | <ogra__> like: sound stutters if you move the mouse
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| 14:17 | we have the build deps there
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| 14:18 | but dont ship it
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| 14:18 | <cliebow> Drakeweb, still there?
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| 14:18 | <ogra__> you can easily compile stuff if you need it
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| 14:18 | <Drakeweb> yep
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| 14:18 | <cliebow> is that kernel in the root of your nfs mount?
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| 14:18 | <Drakeweb> I don't have nfs installed!
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| 14:19 | <ogra__> warren, what resolution do you run ? above 1024x768 i found it nearly unusable (scrolling in FF was a pain)
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| 14:19 | <cliebow> it sure sounds like you have an initrd insatalled..
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| 14:19 | where did you get this kernel?
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| 14:19 | <Drakeweb> what should i type to test it?
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| 14:19 | from the sourceforge site
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| 14:19 | <cliebow> kernel.2x00
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| 14:19 | ?
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| 14:20 | <Drakeweb> note sure
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| 14:20 | I have a few kernels stored
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| 14:20 | as I've been playing around with them
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| 14:21 | <cliebow> it sure sounds like you are at second dhcp request..
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| 14:21 | <Drakeweb> they're all in the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 folder
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| 14:21 | yes, i think i am
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| 14:21 | it downloads, then boots, then stops
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| 14:21 | <warren> ogra__, I have a 1680x1050 monitor, so it is probably trying the max the box is capable 1280x1024
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| 14:21 | <cliebow> wireshark would show you if tftp download is followed by second dhcp request..
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| 14:22 | at which time you asre borked without nfs running
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| 14:22 | <Drakeweb> should i install nfs?
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| 14:22 | i thought ltsp5 wanted to avoid that?
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| 14:22 | but if i need it to boot a 2200
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| 14:23 | then i guess i should?
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| 14:23 | <vagrantc> gutsy's LTSP doesn't use NFS by default
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| 14:23 | <cliebow> if your initrd doesnt support nbd then nfs is the way to go..
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| 14:23 | <Drakeweb> am i being dumb?
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| 14:23 | <cliebow> no
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| 14:23 | <Drakeweb> ok, how do i install it?
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| 14:24 | <ogra__> warren, yeah thats the highest i tried
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| 14:24 | <cliebow> i can not tell if the initrd you appear to be loading is an ltsp one..it cant be i dont think
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| 14:24 | <ogra__> i think it would make a good webkiosk terminal with just X and FF runnig locally
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| 14:24 | <cliebow> so the instructions to do an nbd mount are not there
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| 14:24 | <ogra__> but i find it really to slow as a desktop
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| 14:26 | <Drakeweb> should in install unfs, nfs-user-server or nfs-kernel-server?
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| 14:26 | or none of the above!
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| 14:27 | <ogra__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS
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| 14:27 | nfs-kernel-server ...
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| 14:27 | see the bottom of the page
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| 14:28 | <cliebow> kernel.2x00 loads and hangs
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| 14:29 | <warren> whoa
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| 14:30 | ogra__, it is running at 1680x1050
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| 14:30 | no wonder it is so slow
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| 14:30 | <Drakeweb> hmm, so I appear to already have nfs-kernel-server installed
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| 14:30 | <ogra__> heh
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| 14:30 | <Drakeweb> how do i turn it on?
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| 14:30 | i've read the page you sent and see what i need to do in chroot
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| 14:30 | <ogra__> it should attempt to start if you install it
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| 14:31 | <cliebow> check /etc/exports..that your chroot is exported..
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| 14:31 | showmount -e should show something
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| 14:31 | <ogra__> ltsp-server-standalone should have set up your /etc/exports already
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| 14:31 | <Drakeweb> slow down, guys! I'm getting lost
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| 14:32 | apt-get install nfs-kernel-server returns:
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| 14:32 | nfs-kernel-server is already the newest version
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| 14:32 | nothing is downloaded.
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| 14:33 | <cliebow> ok..this is ubuntu? so lets do netstat -anp|grep ":2049"..see if it is running
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| 14:35 | <Drakeweb> tcp 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
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| 14:35 | <cliebow> kernel.2x00 clearly starts..but has no initrd racked on..
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| 14:35 | <Drakeweb> udp same
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| 14:35 | <cliebow> cool..so nfs is running..showmount -e
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| 14:35 | <Drakeweb> showmount -e gives nothing
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| 14:35 | but the /etc/exports file is empty
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| 14:35 | <cliebow> ahh..
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| 14:36 | <Drakeweb> i have /opt/ltsp/i386 i can uncomment
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| 14:36 | with ro, no_root_squash etc.
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| 14:36 | <cliebow> /opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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| 14:36 | /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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| 14:36 | assuming your network is correct
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| 14:37 | dont worry about the second
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| 14:37 | item
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| 14:37 | <Drakeweb> ok, how do i reboot nfs once ive changed exports?
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| 14:37 | <cliebow> exportfs -na
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| 14:38 | then check with showmount -e
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| 14:38 | <Drakeweb> invalid option -- n
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| 14:38 | <cliebow> umm
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| 14:38 | to be sure.../etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
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| 14:38 | umm
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| 14:38 | <Drakeweb> usage: exportfs [-aruv]
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| 14:38 | <cliebow> then check with showmount -e
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| 14:39 | <Drakeweb> hang on ...
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| 14:39 | export list:
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| 14:40 | /opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.1.0./255.255.255.0
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| 14:41 | <cliebow> cool..
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| 14:41 | <warren> ogra__, X is unusably slow even at 1024x768
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| 14:41 | <Drakeweb> ok, now what do i do?
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| 14:42 | <cliebow> it for sure will not do nfs at this point..but any error messages would be a big help..
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| 14:42 | <Drakeweb> ok ,shall i reboot the 2200 and see what happens?
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| 14:43 | oh hang on, do i need to do the chroot thing?
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| 14:43 | <cliebow> My experience is that to boot a 2200 the kernel must be in the root of the nfsmounted filesystem..
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| 14:43 | <Drakeweb> that the ubuntu page lists
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| 14:43 | <ogra__> warren, right ... now put some stuttering sounds to that while you move the mouse ad the fun is perfect :)
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| 14:43 | <warren> ogra__, sisfb is required?
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| 14:43 | <Drakeweb> is that /opt/ltsp/i386?
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| 14:43 | <cliebow> i havnt looked but if ogra recommends..let er rip
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| 14:44 | <Drakeweb> can the tftp server serve files from that location?
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| 14:44 | <ogra__> warren, it didnt really speed up ... but you can try
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| 14:44 | <warren> we don't build sisfb unfortunately
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| 14:44 | <cliebow> you see the catch 22?? you cant point tftp to download from /opt/ltsp/i386 easily
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| 14:45 | <Drakeweb> what if the kernel is in both locations?
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| 14:45 | <cliebow> that is whyi have copied the i386 folder into /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1
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| 14:45 | <ogra__> well, ours didnt improve anything ... but the sis X driver did a bit
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| 14:45 | <cliebow> and amended my tftpreference to thart kernel
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| 14:46 | <Drakeweb> ok, i'm getting lost here
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| 14:46 | let me reboot the 2200 and see what happens
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| 14:46 | <cliebow> here is my stanza..
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| 14:46 | host netvista1{
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| 14:46 | hardware ethernet 00:60:94:2a:89:fe;
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| 14:46 | fixed-address 192.168.0.19;
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| 14:46 | filename "/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1/vmlinux-2.4.19-LTSP-IBMNC";
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| 14:46 | option root-path "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1";
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| 14:46 | God help you
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| 14:47 | from dhcpd.conf
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| 14:48 | <Drakeweb> ok, exactly the same error
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| 14:48 | <cliebow> can you gzip that kernel and email it to me??
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| 14:49 | cliebow "at" ltsp.org
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| 14:49 | <Drakeweb> sure.
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| 14:54 | <scrapbunny> will turning off unused services help speed up things on an edubuntu 7.10 system?
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| 14:54 | <Drakeweb> 'tis on it's way
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| 14:55 | <cliebow> cool!
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| 14:57 | <Drakeweb> i also have a vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-386 lying around
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| 14:57 | is that of any use?
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| 14:57 | <ogra__> scrapbunny, not noticeable i think
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| 14:57 | Drakeweb, thats the ubuntu ltsp kernel
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| 14:57 | <Drakeweb> ha ha ha - oops!
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| 14:57 | so probably very useful then!?
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| 14:57 | just not on a 2200
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| 14:57 | oh brother ...
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| 14:58 | sorry!
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| 14:58 | ok, what about an nbi.img-2.6.22-14-386?
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| 14:59 | <ogra__> well, if u can get it uncompressed you could try the binary hack
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| 14:59 | thate the etherboot ubuntu kernel
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| 14:59 | *thats
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| 14:59 | <Drakeweb> no - that's way outa my league!
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| 15:00 | <warren> jammcq, is the T1000 usable for anyone? X at 1024x768 seems to be really slow.
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| 15:00 | <Drakeweb> ideally, getting this 2.6.20 booting via nfs would be great
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| 15:01 | <vagrantc> warren: allegedly, the t1000 works fine with ltsp 4.x
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| 15:01 | <cliebow> netvista doesnt have a Real Time Clock so on boot up it appears to think it is january 1943
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| 15:01 | <scrapbunny> thanks ogra
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| 15:01 | <Drakeweb> cool!
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| 15:01 | <jammcq> warren: yeah, did you try setting LDM_DIRECT_X ?
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| 15:01 | <warren> jammcq, not using LDM here
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| 15:01 | <jammcq> keep in mind, the people using these things aren't necessarily power users
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| 15:02 | <warren> youtube videos update frames like every other second
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| 15:02 | <cliebow> ogra: what about an initr...ohhhhhhhhh
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| 15:02 | <warren> dragging a window leaves a trail behind it
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| 15:02 | menus leave trails
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| 15:02 | <jammcq> we've got a site with 150 thin clients. all of the users are pounding transactions into a database all day long. you want youtube, use a bigger thin client
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| 15:02 | <warren> ah
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| 15:02 | <jammcq> pick the hardware for the job you want to do
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| 15:02 | <warren> jammcq, on the bright side, it boots reliatively quick
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| 15:02 | <jammcq> heh
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| 15:02 | how quick?
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| 15:03 | <warren> let me time it
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| 15:03 | <Drakeweb> I know this isn't relevant right now, but I'm doing this in an attic that is so cold my beer doesn't need chilling ...
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| 15:03 | <jammcq> mmm, beer
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| 15:03 | <ogra__> my fastest boot (XDMCP, all options that could slow down dropped) was 110 secs
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| 15:04 | with ldm it still takes its time
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| 15:05 | <Drakeweb> cliebow, should I do the chroot hacks listed on the ubuntu page?
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| 15:06 | <ogra__> if you have a single app only usage its a great thing i guess ... as i said, i bet they make good webkiosks with local firefox
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| 15:06 | <warren> 133 seconds, no attempt of optimization has been made yet
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| 15:06 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 15:06 | <ogra__> thats quite good
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| 15:06 | <jammcq> 110, 133. ltsp-4.2 did it in 42 secs :)
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| 15:06 | <warren> it sat on starting udev for 40 seconds or so
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| 15:06 | I can probably improve that
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| 15:06 | <ogra__> just make it not wait ;)
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| 15:06 | <warren> how?
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| 15:07 | <ogra__> we have a udevsettle command that will wait until all devices have settled
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| 15:07 | not sure that comes from upstream
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| 15:07 | grep for it in the initscripts
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| 15:07 | and comment it
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| 15:07 | <Drakeweb> ok, gotta go watch "Children in need" now. I'll try another day ... cheers
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| 15:08 | <ogra__> ubuntus udev copes fine with that (the NIC driver was loaded in initramfs already, other stuff isnt necessarily needed that early)
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| 15:08 | as long as all devs are there if X comes up all is fine :)
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| 15:08 | <warren> hmm, we don't have udevsettle
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| 15:09 | <ogra__> but you might have something similar
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| 15:09 | <warren> well, we have it, but no mention of it in initscripts
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| 15:09 | <ogra__> hmm
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| 15:09 | <warren> I'm not going to worry about this for now
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| 15:09 | gotta get ltsp core in shape
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| 15:10 | <jammcq> sounds like it's shaping up nicely
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| 15:10 | <warren> jammcq, X performance was better in LTSP-4.2?
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| 15:10 | <jammcq> umm, certainly useable
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| 15:10 | <warren> jammcq, no, I'm running largely LTSP-4.2 scripts in the chroot right now
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| 15:10 | jammcq, I've been working mainly on our initramfs equivalent
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| 15:10 | <jammcq> ah
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| 15:10 | i'm just happy that you are working on it
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| 15:10 | * ogra__ can imagine thats the biggest part | |
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| 15:11 | <ogra__> the initscripts are really trivial
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| 15:11 | <warren> jammcq, too bad the T1000 is so slow, I wish I had something in this form factor but faster.
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| 15:11 | <ogra__> the case is pretty cool
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| 15:11 | <jammcq> smaller/faster, it's all coming in the future
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| 15:11 | * ogra__ loves the idea of mounting it to a plasma TV | |
| 15:11 | <cliebow> Drakeweb..it certainly looks like it has some potential...
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| 15:12 | <warren> when I ran Pentium 133MHz it was faster than this
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| 15:12 | (Pentium 133MHz as thin client)
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| 15:12 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 15:12 | * ogra__ agrees | |
| 15:12 | <jammcq> the sis chipset is pretty crappy
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| 15:12 | <ogra__> the prob is that its all on one chip i guess
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| 15:12 | <jammcq> I think no cache
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| 15:12 | <warren> ah, cache would make all the difference
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| 15:12 | <ogra__> yup
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| 15:12 | <jammcq> 200mhz processor outta be faster than 133, but no cache screws that up
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| 15:12 | <warren> jammcq, customers know what they are getting into when they buy it?
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| 15:13 | <jammcq> umm, I hope so. there's been no returns yet that I'm aware of
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| 15:15 | <cliebow> Drakeweb:where dids you find this>??
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| 15:29 | <cliebow_> forgot to say goodnight...
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| 15:29 | Goodnight..
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| 15:49 | <warren> jammcq, ah..
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| 15:49 | jammcq, you might want to change some BIOS settings before shipping out T1000's, or write a card reminding customers
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| 15:49 | jammcq, it has a bunch of stupid defaults, like 8MB video RAM, ACPI off, PNP off, etc.
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| 15:50 | <jammcq> did changing them help?
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| 15:52 | <warren> jammcq, seemingly no....
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| 15:52 | jammcq, although I see less complaining about broken stuff in dmesg
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| 15:52 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 15:53 | <warren> I guess there's only so much champagne I can squeeze from this moose.
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| 15:53 | (none)
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| 15:55 | jammcq, ah, changing that optoin changed the power button behavior
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| 15:55 | jammcq, before you could turn it off instnatly, but now you have to hold it down
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| 15:56 | <ogra__> lol, nice phrase
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| 16:04 | <warren> jammcq, well, I guess it beats the thincan in that takes less than 30 minutes to boot
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| 16:04 | <jammcq> heh
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| 16:29 | <lns> Hey, with flashplugin-nonfree/nspluginwrapper and firefox w/LTSP (pulseaudio), should I still have /etc/firefox/firefoxrc set to "padsp" for sound?
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| 16:34 | <Drakeweb> cliebow, you still there?
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| 16:35 | ogra?
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| 16:52 | <Drakeweb> hey cliebow
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| 16:52 | <cliebow> Hey!
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| 16:52 | <Drakeweb> so i discovered that I'm more of a moron than I initially thought
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| 16:52 | <cliebow> heh...i find thast out every day/....
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| 16:53 | <Drakeweb> my 2200 was set to boot with a static ip, not access the dhcp server
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| 16:53 | for its IP
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| 16:53 | and it downloaded the kernel via tftp
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| 16:53 | but did not pick up and useful info from dhcp
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| 16:53 | so I changed it to boot via dhcp
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| 16:53 | and it wont!
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| 16:53 | it will get an IP
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| 16:54 | but gives me a boot protocol error after that
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| 16:54 | and cant download the kernel
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| 16:54 | any ideas?
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| 16:54 | <cliebow> hmmm...do you have option 211 set?
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| 16:54 | <Drakeweb> no - i've been trying that for the last hour!
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| 16:54 | but it wont set
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| 16:54 | dhcp3 gives me errors
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| 16:55 | in the config file
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| 16:55 | every time i try
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| 16:55 | <cliebow> option option-211 code 211=string;
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| 16:55 | option option-211 74:66:74:70;
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| 16:56 | <Drakeweb> unknown option dhcp.option-211
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| 16:56 | that's my error ^
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| 16:57 | <cliebow> that is in the "defsault" section of dhcpd.conf?
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| 16:58 | <Drakeweb> yep - /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf
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| 16:58 | <cliebow> illpastebot mine for you..
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| 16:58 | <Drakeweb> I've tried reading the help pages for dhcp3, but there is no reference to the option211 option
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| 16:59 | I've tried those two lines you gave me a number of times, but get that error
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| 16:59 | <ltsppbot> "cliebow" pasted "authoritative; option option-2" (82 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/360
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| 17:00 | <cliebow> ignore the cruft
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| 17:01 | <Drakeweb> yep - i follow it - i've tried the option 211 thing, but I get errors
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| 17:01 | <cliebow> damn...dpkg -l|grep dhcp3-server
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| 17:02 | damn...dpkg -l|grep dhcp3-server
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| 17:02 | 3.0.5-3ubuntu4
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| 17:02 | <str4nd> why not dpkg -s dhcp3-server
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| 17:02 | <cliebow> ]cause im challenged 8~)
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| 17:04 | <Drakeweb> yep - identical
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| 17:04 | 3.0.5
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| 17:04 | ubuntu4
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| 17:06 | ok,
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| 17:06 | got somewhere
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| 17:06 | moved those option-211 lines from within the subnet definitions to global
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| 17:06 | and the config passed
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| 17:06 | gonna try the 2200 boot again
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| 17:06 | <cliebow> yes..in the default section
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| 17:07 | <cliebow> str4nd, thank you by thye way..
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| 17:08 | <Drakeweb> same error - "boot file server protocol not specified"
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| 17:08 | that's on the 2200 boot screen.
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| 17:08 | it picks up an ip, but cannot download the kernel
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| 17:08 | <str4nd> o_O?
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| 17:08 | Ah, ok.
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| 17:08 | <cliebow> in the bios iiit is set right?i think i mentioned it on wiki..
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| 17:09 | <Drakeweb> there doesn't seem to be anywhere specific to select it in the latest (2002) bios
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| 17:09 | I picked dhcp and config from dhcp
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| 17:09 | and that's it
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| 17:10 | <cliebow> ae you watching wireshark to see what the packets say?? btw a compressed kernel will give that same error..
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| 17:11 | why not pastebot at pastebot.ltsp.org your dhcpd.conf
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| 17:11 | <Drakeweb> how do i do that?
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| 17:12 | <vagrantc> !pastebot
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| 17:12 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 17:13 | <ltsppbot> "Drakeweb" pasted "dhcp.conf" (56 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/361
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| 17:15 | <cliebow> sure that hardware address is right? mine are all 00:06:94
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| 17:16 | <Drakeweb> yep - double checked!
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| 17:16 | <cliebow> do you have a kernel at /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/linux---->
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| 17:16 | <Drakeweb> it gets the ip from dhcp, then fails with the boot server error
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| 17:17 | yep, checked that too
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| 17:18 | <cliebow> are you running wiresahrk to get the resal poop?
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| 17:19 | so to speak
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| 17:19 | <Drakeweb> just downloaded and installed - cool!
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| 17:19 | will reboot 2200 and see
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| 17:21 | hmmm, not sure what i'm looking for
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| 17:22 | <cliebow> should see dhcp packets..the talk between server and client
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| 17:23 | what parameters are passed
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| 17:23 | <Drakeweb> can i filter the info to make it easier to spot?
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| 17:23 | <cliebow> tftp failure?:
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| 17:23 | Drakeweb, maybe you can.. i never got good at thast
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| 17:23 | should see dhcp discover..for sure
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| 17:24 | <Drakeweb> how do i check my tftp server is running?
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| 17:24 | <cliebow> netstat -anp|grep ":69"
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| 17:25 | <Drakeweb> aaagh! different keymapping, can't find pipe!
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| 17:26 | <Drakeweb> got it
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| 17:26 | udp 0.0.0.0
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| 17:26 | <cliebow> ill be in and out...
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| 17:26 | <Drakeweb> etc.
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| 17:27 | <cliebow> you should see four dhcp packets in wireshark..a little arp perjhaps..then tftp success or failure
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| 17:31 | <Drakeweb> nope. not seeing any of that
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| 17:31 | <Drakeweb> although the n2200 finds the dhcp server address, an the boot server addres
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| 17:35 | ok, filtered on ARP now
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| 17:35 | and got lots
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| 18:09 | <sysadmin> my thin-clients aren't accepting passwords for login, IIRC , there was some command to resync keys or something?? (help!)
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| 18:13 | <lns> sysadmin, did you try ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
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| 18:14 | <sysadmin> bravo! thanks, worked
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| 18:14 | <lns> =)
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