IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 January 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 18:54 | <nikoh77> hi guys, i need your help with my installation..
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| 18:55 | On server i have right configured a network printer buth i dont see it on thinclients...
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| 18:55 | i have read ell tutorial and docs befor looking for help here
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| 19:02 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/localprinter
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| 19:02 | but dont work..
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| 19:02 | <mwalters> anything on the ubuntu pages are way out of date
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| 19:02 | !wiki
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| 19:02 | <ltsp> wiki: The LTSP wiki can be found at http://server.ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/LTSPedia
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| 19:02 | <nikoh77> ltsp.org is down :-(
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| 19:02 | <mwalters> :-(
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| 19:03 | <||cw> nikoh77: thin client or fat?
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| 19:03 | <nikoh77> thin
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| 19:04 | <||cw> if you login as that user local on the server, are the printers there?
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| 19:04 | <nikoh77> yes, it work perfecly
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| 19:04 | <||cw> are you sure it's thin?
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| 19:05 | <nikoh77> yes, i dont enabled fat option
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| 19:06 | <||cw> it's enabled by default, so you specifically disabled it?
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| 19:06 | <nikoh77> no....
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| 19:06 | <||cw> can you verify? ltsp thin login and local login are not really very different
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| 19:07 | <nikoh77> but... i can login with a vm without hd...
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| 19:07 | so a thik is thin
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| 19:07 | <||cw> HDD has nothing to do with it
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| 19:08 | fat just means everything is running on the client CPU and not the server CPU
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| 19:08 | <nikoh77> ok only hw resources like cpu and ram?
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| 19:09 | ok i check again my lts.conf
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| 19:10 | <||cw> IDK much about printing, but it sounds like the server's global printer config isn't making it to the fat client image
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| 19:13 | <mwalters> probably easiest way to confirm is to see if client as its own IP
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| 19:13 | or just open a terminal and see if its the server's hostname
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| 19:13 | ;)
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| 19:14 | if terminal show's the server's hostname, it's thin... if it shows ltsp###, it's fat
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| 19:34 | <vagrantc> isn't cups in the services that get removed on boot of a client?
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| 20:04 | <alkisg> Hi all
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| 20:05 | Thin client applications RUN on the server, so they see the server printers without doing anything
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| 20:05 | Fat client applications and localapps see the server printers via the cups client
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| 20:05 | The cups client connects to $SERVER instead of localhost, so it doesn't matter if cups is running locally on the client or not
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| 20:06 | But, for fat clients and localapps, printer sharing on the server needs to be enabled
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| 20:06 | nikoh77: As mwalters said, the easiest way is to open a terminal on the client. If it says "user@server", it's thin. If it says "user@ltsp123", it's fat.
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| 20:16 | <alkisg> Damn IRC, have a lower ping time out to save people from typing for nothing :P
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| 20:17 | <mwalters> lolol
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| 20:18 | I have weechat set to filter out join/parts unless they've sent something within the past few minutes, so half the time I don't even notice they've left
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| 20:21 | <quinox> same here - fantastic feature of weechat
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| 20:21 | (except when you don't realize someone already left)
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| 20:24 | <mwalters> I usually wonder why tab completion isn't working on their nick ;)
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| 23:46 | <nikoh77> alkisg, is fat
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| 23:50 | ltsp.org still down.... nada ltspedia :-(
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| 23:50 | <mwalters> nikoh77: if it's a fat client, they need to connect to the cups servewr
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| 23:51 | which should just be the ltsp server
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| 23:52 | <nikoh77> ok.... but for a real modern pc (as a client) is better far or thin?
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| 23:54 | <mwalters> it's all a trade off
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| 23:54 | fat clients are slower at starting up applications, in my experience... but everything is smoother once they get going
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| 23:55 | if you have the server hardware, thin clients are faster to get apps moving, and for apps that don't have a lot of animation, they're just as fast as thin... but if something redraws a lot, it looks terrible (ie, browsers, youtube, videos, etc)
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| 23:56 | just as fast as fat*
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