IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 31 October 2009 (all times are UTC)
| 00:06 | <Ahmuck_> what is google wave?
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| 00:10 | <cyberorg> yeah
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| 00:11 | http://wave.google.com/
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| 00:19 | <Ahmuck_> have an invite for me?
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| 00:21 | <cyberorg> email id?
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| 01:08 | <Ryan52> cyberorg: gimme one!!
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| 01:09 | <cyberorg> email id?
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| 01:09 | * Ryan52 /msgs | |
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| 04:54 | <jbicha> LTSP is magical, wish I had known about it sooner
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| 04:55 | <ogra> sbalneav, http://linux.wareseeker.com/System/gabriel-0.1.zip/333871
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| 05:00 | <nubae> cyberorg, I'll gladly take an invite off your hands if u still have
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| 05:03 | <cyberorg> nubae, sent, wait for a couple of days to get it :)
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| 05:03 | <nubae> giidok
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| 05:03 | thanks
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| 08:10 | <sbalneav> ogra: GAH!!!
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| 08:11 | WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS!?!?!
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| 08:11 | * sbalneav can't beleive eyes! | |
| 08:12 | <Appiah> O_o
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| 08:13 | <sbalneav> That looks like.... just what we want.
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| 08:44 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scpttu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:44 | err, let's try that again, shall we
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| 08:44 | sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:39 | <nlebrun234> hi !
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| 09:40 | Is LTSP_FATCLIENT=true already ok in karmic ?
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| 09:40 | or should i compile ldm-trunk ?
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| 11:13 | <sebas891> hi folks, LTSP is a great projet!
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| 11:14 | <cyberorg> sebas891, yes it is :)
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| 11:14 | <sebas891> I would like to customize the ldm login screen, specially move the login prompt.
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| 11:14 | <cyberorg> sebas891, what distro?
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| 11:15 | <sebas891> I looked in the greeter-gtkrc but I cannot get a clue on how to do it.
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| 11:15 | I use ubuntu 9.04
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| 11:15 | <cyberorg> ah, you found the place, you will have to play with gtkrc
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| 11:16 | <sebas891> actually, I've always seen login prompt right in the middle of the screen. ...
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| 11:16 | it is possible to do without hacking the c code of greeter.c ?
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| 11:17 | <cyberorg> look in gtkgreet/greeter.c
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| 11:17 | yes, see lw, lh
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| 11:17 | <sebas891> I know nothing about c, unfortunately.
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| 11:18 | lw lh I saw that.
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| 11:18 | <cyberorg> well you are almost there, trial and error is a way to go
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| 11:19 | <sebas891> i guess :)
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| 11:19 | with a little recompyling... in between.
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| 11:19 | <cyberorg> or ogra and sbalneav may know more if you still cannot figure it out
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| 11:19 | <sebas891> if (lw < 180) lw = 180;
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| 11:19 | <cyberorg> use nfs instead of nbd when experimenting
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| 11:20 | <sebas891> I did try on a standalone machine with the package installed.
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| 11:20 | <cyberorg> ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make DESTDIR=/your/chroot/path install
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| 11:21 | <sebas891> that was the easiest setup I could come up :)
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| 11:21 | <cyberorg> something like that should install new ldm in chroot, use the chroot as nfs exported image
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| 11:22 | <sebas891> the thing, if I hack the code rigth in the c file, I'll to maintain a patch with the next upgrade :(
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| 11:24 | <cyberorg> sebas891, that part of code never changes
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| 11:26 | <sebas891> Is there another option? like not using ldm and using X ?
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| 11:26 | <cyberorg> no, ldm is what makes up most of ltsp
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| 11:26 | <sebas891> is sdm worth looking at it? will I be able to customise it?
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| 11:27 | <cyberorg> all ltsp features are dependent on ldm, without it there is no ltsp :)
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| 11:27 | <sebas891> ok :)
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| 11:28 | I had a really nice background picture, that needed the logging more at the top of the screen.
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| 11:28 | I'll have to change that i'm afraid.
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| 11:29 | <cyberorg> if you do write a patch that makes ldm customizable via lts.conf variable such as LDM_INPUT_LOCATION=(top, bottom, left, right, center) may get accepted :)
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| 11:30 | <sebas891> :)
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| 11:31 | <sebas891> LDM_INPUT_LOCATION=(x,y) may be better
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| 11:31 | <cyberorg> yeah
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| 11:32 | <sebas891> x,y (% of the screen) sort of thing.
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| 11:33 | <Ryan52> ldm will eventually have support for that.
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| 11:33 | (I think)
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| 11:33 | <sebas891> is there some variable that are passed to greeter.c ?
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| 11:33 | <Ryan52> not yet.
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| 11:34 | <sebas891> Ryan52: is there something somewhere I could try ?
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| 11:34 | <Ryan52> do what cyberorg suggested..
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| 11:48 | <sebas891> cyberorg Ryan52 thanks for the clues about how to change the login location. I don't know .c to make a valid contribution.
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| 11:49 | I'm working more on deploiment of ltsp servers using puppet
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| 11:49 | <cyberorg> sebas891, well you have at least easy task to do and most of the code is in place ;)
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| 11:49 | <sebas891> hehehe.
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| 11:50 | <cyberorg> interesting, can you elaborate what exactly are you doing?
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| 11:52 | <sebas891> i've to install multiples ltsp servers in a few location. I want to automate the installation and configuration process of an ltsp server.
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| 11:52 | not that it's few complicated to install a ltsp server, but there is nothing like automating it :)
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| 11:53 | I installed the machine using debian/ubuntu preseed install method with pxe/netboot.
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| 11:53 | <cyberorg> cool, do share docs somewhere on blog or wiki when you are done
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| 11:55 | sebas891, on opensuse we have rpm package with prebuilt ltsp image, that makes deploying easier :)
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| 11:55 | <sebas891> for example this is the puppet recipe to install/config an ltsp https://trac.redcta.org.ar/redcta/browser/trunk/puppet/manifests/classes/ltsp.pp
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| 11:56 | that is a little documentation of the "server" which has more than the ltsp service :) https://trac.redcta.org.ar/redcta/wiki/ServidorRedLocalMultiServicios
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| 11:57 | <sebas891> puppet helps you manage configuration of machines, very usefull when you've many of them.
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| 12:00 | we all know that doing the package install of the ltsp-server is the easy part, there is always a lots of details to take care of after...
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| 12:04 | <cyberorg> sebas891, we have giant shell script http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jigish-gohil/kiwi-ltsp/trunk/annotate/head%3A/trunk/kiwi-ltsp/ltsp/include/kiwi-ltsp-functions.sh
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| 12:04 | <sebas891> actually, I should do a puppet module to install and ltsp-server.
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| 12:04 | <cyberorg> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jigish-gohil/kiwi-ltsp/trunk/annotate/head%3A/trunk/kiwi-ltsp/ltsp/include/kiwi-ltsp-setup
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| 12:04 | second script takes various switches to do configurations
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| 12:08 | <sebas891> interesting.
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| 12:11 | <sebas891> cyberorg: with puppet, it would be possible to have the task multi distribution.
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| 12:11 | <cyberorg> yeah looks quite interesting
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| 12:11 | <Ahmuck_> puppet?
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| 12:12 | with puppet?
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| 12:12 | i'm late to the conversation
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| 12:12 | <nubae> sebas891, yeah a puppet module for ltsp server would awsome
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| 12:12 | <Ahmuck_> what would a puppet module do for ltsp?
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| 12:12 | <nubae> though in that case it should take cluste into consideration
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| 12:13 | <Ahmuck_> http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/ - would this program inventory the client hardware?
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| 12:15 | <sebas891> puppet would install the ltsp-server other possible packages, build the client (if you have a proxy of packages, would use it for example)
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| 12:16 | puppet would make sure that the tftpd service is running.
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| 12:17 | <Ahmuck_> i need to rebuild the thin client after a system upgrade. do i need to delete the old client build?
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| 12:18 | ie, rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 12:18 | and rm -rf /opt/ltsp/images?
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| 12:19 | then sudo ltsp-build-client?
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| 12:19 | <sebas891> you don't have to delete the image.
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| 12:19 | it's overwritten.
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| 12:20 | rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 ???
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| 12:20 | you will delete the base of your client... why would you do that?
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| 12:21 | <Ahmuck_> wouldn't the base be rebuilt upon ltsp-build-client?
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| 12:21 | <sebas891> Ahmuck_: use ltsp-update-image to update the client.
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| 12:22 | ltsp-build-client, is only of the very first time you put in place the ltsp service.
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| 12:22 | <Ahmuck_> so, upgrading the ubuntu distro from 9.04 to 9.10, then all i need to do is update-image
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| 12:22 | sebas891: k
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| 12:22 | <sebas891> Ahmuck_: ah! no.
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| 12:23 | <Ahmuck_> NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to problems, please remove it before trying again. Exiting.
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| 12:23 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 12:23 | <sebas891> if you upgrade between release, you'll have to do a ltsp-build-client I guess.
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| 12:24 | Ahmuck_: did you make changes in the client?
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| 12:25 | <johnny> hmm.. that's what wwe need.. a directory of changes we make to the chroot that will overlay the entire thing
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| 12:25 | so /opt/ltsp/i386-modifications or somethin
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| 12:25 | or sommewehere.. that will copy the files we need..
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| 12:28 | <Ahmuck_> http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/ - i've used this to inventory large installations of large computers. can this be used to inventory thin client hardware? would each thin client report?
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| 12:35 | <johnny> why not?
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| 12:35 | you'd need to install something in the chroot i imagine
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| 12:35 | it's just a linux box.. so i don't see why not
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| 12:39 | <sebas891> Ahmuck_: ocsinventory works with thin client, that problem I had was that all the client had the same hostname...
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| 12:40 | <Ahmuck_> osc invetories by ip address?
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| 12:40 | <sebas891> i'm about to install it under ubuntu 9.04.
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| 12:40 | <Ahmuck_> ok
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| 12:40 | sebas891: any other inventory program that you know of that has it's detail?
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| 12:40 | <sebas891> that is a oscinventory question :)
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| 12:41 | <Ahmuck_> johnny: in chroot?
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| 12:41 | <sebas891> no, I don't
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| 12:41 | know.
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| 12:41 | <Ahmuck_> i'm about to rebuild the thin client
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| 12:41 | johnny: ok, i understand
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| 12:41 | i'd need to install the client side in the chroot
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| 12:41 | <johnny> sebas891, which version of ubuntu/yourdistro
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| 12:41 | <sebas891> the nice thing about the ocsinventory is the integration with glpi.
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| 12:42 | <johnny> ubuntu should now make fake hostnames if you don't set one on dhcp
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| 12:42 | <sebas891> johnny: that I had problems with? (ubuntu 7.10)
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| 12:42 | <johnny> that's why
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| 12:42 | <Ahmuck_> inventoring hardware on the thin clients would allow me to target specific clients for upgrade
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| 12:42 | <johnny> you should have set dns hostnames for them
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| 12:42 | but now.. you don't need to
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| 12:42 | it will assign a name+num for them automatically if htere is no assigned hostname by dhcp for them
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| 12:42 | <Ahmuck_> i assume that this is because of "fake net"?
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| 12:42 | <johnny> huh?
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| 12:42 | <Ahmuck_> k, nm
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| 12:43 | <sebas891> johnny: is it possible to configure the "name" variable ?
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| 12:43 | <johnny> name?
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| 12:44 | you mean instead of ltspnum?
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| 12:44 | you want yournamenum ?
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| 12:44 | <sebas891> "ltsp"
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| 12:44 | brb
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| 12:44 | <johnny> nope
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| 12:44 | it's hardcoded in the init script
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| 12:44 | if you want something better, set real hostnames for them at the dns+dhcp level
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| 12:44 | which you should be doing anyways
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| 12:45 | if you have the kind of organizaiton that needs ocsinventory
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| 12:45 | same for you Ahmuck_
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| 12:45 | do it the right way please :)
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| 12:48 | <sebas891> of course :)
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| 12:50 | but when you've a large amount of clients, it's a pain the set a hostname for each of them.
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| 12:50 | in the dhcp server.
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| 12:50 | maybe, I'm missing an option to build automatic hostname for clients.
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| 12:51 | <johnny> no.. that's the point.. it's easy :)
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| 12:51 | a file with mac/hostname pairs is all you really need
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| 12:51 | and you can build that from ocsinventory i guess :) lol
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| 12:52 | <Ahmuck_> parse the mac address from a file and then auto set hostnames to them
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| 12:52 | i suppose
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| 12:52 | <johnny> or make it so they have a firstrun option
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| 12:52 | ah.. i guess i can't see how to do that :(
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| 12:53 | the fedora one does client-firstoctect
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| 12:53 | i stole it for gentoo ltsp before ubuntu had it
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| 12:53 | err sorry.. last octect
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| 12:55 | <sebas891> there must be something at the dhcp level, to build automatic hostname like (pc-<ip>) or something else.
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| 12:56 | what is the "last octects" ?
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| 12:56 | <Ahmuck_> pc1-mac address, pc2-mac address, etc.
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| 12:56 | angryip :)
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| 12:57 | <sebas891> the complete mac address? something shorter?
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| 12:57 | <johnny> last ip octect
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| 12:57 | sebas891, you can do something like that with dnsmasq..
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| 12:57 | and potentially dhcp.. if it lets you run scripts
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| 12:58 | another option tho.. would be another lts.conf var to pass a path to a script that will build the hostname
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| 12:59 | <sebas891> that seems to be a problem outside the ltsp scope, somehow.
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| 13:00 | <johnny> i'd suggest you look at the dhcp man page or search for dhcp build hostname script or somethin
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| 13:00 | <sebas891> when, I do network install with preseed, if I didn't configure the hostname in the dhcp server, the installation fails.
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| 13:01 | that is a good thing * i think.
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| 13:01 | i'll look at the dnsmasq and the man page of the dhcpd.
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| 13:02 | <cyberorg> sebas891, fedora and suse uses hosts-update script to create /etc/hosts on the client
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| 14:09 | <Ahmuck_> ltsp-build-client downloads from a server on ubuntu? why wouldn't it take the packages on the system?
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| 14:14 | dpkg: warning: obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture', please use '--print-architecture' instead.
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| 16:48 | <davidj> Nous somme ivres, prenez votre bonbon et courir. Jeyeux tout bénit!
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| 17:41 | <jammcq> hey all
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