IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 May 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 10:47 | <eirikb> I'm saddened to say I've given up on ltsp. Either my use case is too special, or my abilities too limited. I switched to ISO (for now)
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> eirikb: whatever suits you, but I thought you had got it working with directly booting .vdi images?
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| 10:48 | (when you say ISO, do you mean booting live cd .iso images?)
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| 10:49 | <eirikb> Yes, but then docker didn't work (without installing upon boot, which was a bit bad), and then I struggled with X
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| 10:49 | Yes booting live ISO
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> Well, the live iso does have X
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| 10:49 | So you were trying very different things there...
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| 10:49 | I don't know why your .vdi didn't have X
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| 10:50 | Anyways, whatever suits you best
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| 10:51 | <derick_> eirikb : may I know what the issue is?
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| 10:51 | <eirikb> In my second try I installed a Debian with Desktop environment, and tried to start this over ltsp, but the screen just became black, I tried with both ltsp-client-core and ltsp-client (both old packages, as they were from Debian 9 repo)
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> Both jessie and stretch boot fine here as ltsp clients
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| 10:53 | <eirikb> Yes I'm probably doing something wrong, and I don't know what, it's beyond me. I've spent too much time on this
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> Possibly. It's true that diverting from the ltsp defaults does require knowledge.
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| 11:00 | <derick_> I am not an expert. But I would suggest installing ltsp on a ubuntu first and then try on debian.
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| 11:01 | <eirikb> I gave it a quick spin on default on 18.04 using the ppa (following the pnp guide) and it did boot. I got a menu on the client for creating a user or something, perhaps a setting?
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| 11:02 | <derick_> try this: https://github.com/d78ui98/dev--LTSP/tree/branch1
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| 11:06 | <eirikb> I think I'll stick to my ISO for now. It took me 5 minutes to set up PXE for ISO, and another five to build the iso with both docker and X. That is a fraction of a fraction of the time I've spent trying to do diskelss boot. I might switch to clonezilla or FOG later
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| 11:08 | <alkisg> "build the iso"?
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| 11:08 | <derick_> okay cool :)
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| 11:08 | <eirikb> alkisg: It's archiso
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| 11:09 | * alkisg can't really understand why eirikb is trying all those weird methods... | |
| 11:09 | <alkisg> ...but since you found a solution, all is well
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| 11:11 | <eirikb> Yeah I probably should just go for FOG, that would be the most common approach
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| 11:12 | <alkisg> Fog is for installation, not for netbooting, right?
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| 11:12 | I was thinking you wanted netbooting...
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| 11:13 | <eirikb> I just want my Jenkins slaves. I imagine I can tell FOG to write my VDI to disk, and then boot it from disk
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> I don't think FOG has any code related to netbooting
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| 11:13 | That comes from the distro live CDs
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| 11:13 | If you have local disks, then you can copy them with ltsp too
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| 11:14 | I.e. if you're just looking for a cloning tool
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| 11:14 | <eirikb> Boot a normal linux using ltsp, then have my own little boot script to fetch an image from the server and dd this to disk, then boot the disk?
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| 11:15 | <alkisg> !epoptes
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| 11:15 | <ltsp> epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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| 11:15 | <alkisg> I use epoptes and ltsp to dd windows to clients
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| 11:15 | So I just select the netbooted clients, and run a dd command from the "exec command" dialog
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| 11:15 | <eirikb> Not sure what the benefit over FOG would be
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| 11:16 | <alkisg> Not sure either; I haven't tried fog. Epoptes does give you a nice environment to manage all the netbooted clients.
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