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00:45 | <dyllan> hi all
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00:55 | I am running the command: ltsp-build-client --arch i386 it runs and then starts downloading updates but fails at some point with the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sane-backends/libsane_1.0.22-2ubuntu1_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch
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00:56 | and error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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00:57 | if i run the ltsp-build command again it complains that the i386 directory already exists, so i have to delete it and start again. Is there a way to try again from where it left off?
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00:57 | <muppis> Not really.
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00:58 | Is your server in up-to-date ?
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00:58 | <dyllan> muppis, yea the server is up to date
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00:58 | but my server is 64bit and my clients are 32bit hence the command to build a 32bit client.. .
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00:59 | <muppis> That is quite normal situation. :)
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00:59 | <dyllan> ive tried it several times and it fails in different places
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00:59 | but mostly during the update.. . :)
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01:00 | <muppis> Sounds odd.
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01:01 | <dyllan> could i not possibly chroot in or soming like that then try and run the update again? Or is it not complete and there is no environment to chroot into?
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01:04 | <muppis> I don't have deeper knowledge what build-client does, but basically it installs very minimal Ubuntu (in your case) to chroot and modifies to work as terminal client. So you can try chroot to it if fails. There is a change something important is missing and thus chrooting won't work.
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01:06 | <dyllan> yea ill give it a try thnx
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01:24 | i was able to chroot and run update etc but something still doesnt seem right, the i386.img is only 450+- MB when i think it should be 650+- so im not sure :/
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01:27 | <muppis> Let me take a quick chekc for my owns.
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01:28 | What 'file i386.img' (without quotes) says?
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01:28 | <dyllan> its /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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01:29 | <muppis> Put in terminal: file /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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01:30 | In our testbed, file is 544 M
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01:31 | <Merwin> Is it possible to have per-client configuration with LTSP (depending on MAC for example) ?
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01:31 | <dyllan> hmm
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01:31 | <muppis> Merwin, yes. Take a look at man pages of lts.conf
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01:31 | <Merwin> Thanks
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01:34 | So we can define a section with the MAC address nice. And is it possible to do this for groups of addresses ?
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01:36 | <muppis> I'm not sure how directly this is possbile, but at least one example is in end of man page.
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01:36 | *possible
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01:48 | <dyllan> Merwin, yes it is possible, if all your units start with 00:32:EA etc then you can just create one file name it the first 3 credentials and voila all the units that have mac starting with those credentials will use that to boot etc
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01:49 | <Merwin> euh, the problem is that I can't choose my MAC :D
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01:49 | But thanks for the tip ;)
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01:52 | <dyllan> what do you mean you cant 'choose' ?
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01:56 | <Merwin> Mac addresses are fixed
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02:01 | <dyllan> you dont need to
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02:01 | get the mac from your machine, create a new file with info and update lts.conf with details for that unit
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02:52 | <dyllan> is there any additional configuration needed to mount a usb digital camera via think client in ltsp? A flash drive works 100% but the digital camera is not even noticed ie. no entry in dmesg for the camera when its plugged in.. .
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03:14 | <muppis> Is camera plugged in mass storage mode ?
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03:19 | <dyllan> muppis, yea
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03:19 | it works on my ubuntu laptop same version etc
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03:36 | <muppis> dyllan, sounds odd. Does that USB port in client work at all?
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03:36 | <dyllan> yup
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03:36 | works fine
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04:38 | <mlky> hello, when i try to login on the ltsp client machine, i get "no response from server.. restarting"
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04:39 | i can log in via terminal
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04:39 | on the client
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04:41 | ps. hai gais
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04:44 | anyone have a clue as to why i get this error? its a local test network with only the client and the server, also i dont know which logs to look at for information in regards to ltsp
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05:03 | <Merwin> If somebody is familiar with LTSP Cluster: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27585670 ;-)
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05:11 | <Gnoze5> hello
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05:26 | <veloutin> hello
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05:27 | <Gnoze5> veloutin :)
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05:27 | <veloutin> Gnoze5:)
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05:38 | <mgariepy> Merwin, did you move your client into the right node?
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05:40 | <Merwin> mgariepy: Yes, that's why I don't understand :-(
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05:40 | <mgariepy> open a console on you thin client
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05:41 | <Merwin> ok
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05:41 | <mgariepy> as root :)
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05:41 | getltscfg-cluster -a
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05:41 | do you see you attributes ?
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05:42 | <Merwin> I'll test
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05:42 | It boots ;)
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05:42 | <mgariepy> ok :)
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05:43 | <alkisg> ltsp-cluster doesn't automatically handle /home and authentication sharing, right? The sysadmin is expected to do those manually?
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05:44 | <mgariepy> sure you need to mount a shared folder for your appserv to share the files between machines
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05:45 | <Merwin> mgariepy: Euh wait, I can't log in anymore... don't leave I'll come back :D
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05:45 | <alkisg> mgariepy: and about authentication? the sysadmin installs e.g. LDAP?
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05:45 | <mgariepy> for guest login though, the account gets created when the user click.
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05:45 | yeah we usualy use ldap for auth, and configure it on the servers
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05:46 | <alkisg> Any specific how-to's somewhere? Or the generic ones for LDAP suffice?
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05:47 | <mgariepy> a generic one should suffice :) as long as you can authenticate using your ldap credential with ssh it's going to work
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05:47 | <Gnoze5> hm
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05:47 | mgariepy do you use the same LDAP auth to give access to apps running in windows over TS in a seemless window on the client side?
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05:47 | <alkisg> mgariepy: thanks :)
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05:47 | <_UsUrPeR_> Hey all. A question about DVI: does anybody know what causes a DVI monitor to go to sleep when it's plugged in to a DVI monitor output?
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05:48 | <veloutin> Gnoze5: the OpenLDAP server also acts as a PDC, so it does win auth too
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05:48 | <_UsUrPeR_> I am trying to figure out why one of our clients will not shut off a monitor when the monitor is plugged in to it.
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05:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> It seems like a loop is created when the DVI monitor is plugged in to other DVI ports. It does not require power to put the monitor to sleep...
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05:50 | <veloutin> _UsUrPeR_: I don't know anything specific about this, but... did you try it with a different monitor/client to rule out the hardware problem?
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05:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> veloutin: yeah, the monitor powers on and everything. It's just when the client is off, there appears to be a problem. Instead of the monitor going to sleep, it says that the cable has been unplugged.
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05:51 | <Gnoze5> veloutin im just concerned about licensing
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05:51 | lets say i want to run MS Word on the thin client
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05:51 | does it have to be running on Windows Server?
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05:52 | or can it be running on win 7?
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05:52 | <Merwin> mgariepy: I've got errors with permissions
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05:52 | <Gnoze5> and what licenses re required?
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05:52 | <Merwin> Should I run the command as root on he local xterm?
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05:52 | <veloutin> Gnoze5: IIRC, you need a TS server and licenses for each simultaneous user
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05:53 | <Gnoze5> veloutin as i thought, is the technical implementation difficult?
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05:54 | <Merwin> mgariepy: I can't log in as root with sudo in the chroot environnement :x
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05:55 | <mgariepy> didn't set a root passwd ?
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05:55 | <Merwin> Nope :x
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05:55 | Will do it, and rebuild the image ,and reboot, and run the command.. :D
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05:55 | <veloutin> Gnoze5: I don't think it's very complicated
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05:57 | <Gnoze5> essentially you use a TS client that does the whole login open the app and put it on a window like any other programa on the client side?
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05:59 | <mgariepy> Gnoze5, the seemless with rdekstop isn't really good, the rdpshell thing is only running a whole destktop then cut the app for rdesktop program.
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05:59 | <Gnoze5> mgariepy are there any other real alternatives'
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06:00 | <mgariepy> wine/crossover might work depending one the app you want to run.
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06:00 | <Gnoze5> word..
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06:00 | outlook
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06:02 | <mgariepy> maybe you could run the session on a windows TS
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06:04 | <Gnoze5> hm I wonder if there is a way to do it without having to have a server license
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06:04 | just use existing windows 7 licenses
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06:04 | <mgariepy> no
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06:05 | <Gnoze5> annoying
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06:05 | but in case of wine
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06:05 | <mgariepy> i don't think there is a way to run applications on a windows without having to pay for the users...
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06:06 | wine would work but you'll need the licenses for office.
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06:06 | <Gnoze5> yeah licenses for office we get through volume licensing for non-profits
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06:06 | even windows 7 licenses
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06:06 | server licenses are hard to get though
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06:06 | <Merwin> mgariepy: I just have 'CLUSTER_CONFIGURED=True'
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06:06 | That's the only one
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06:07 | <mgariepy> maybe you should talk to a MS seller or something..
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06:07 | ok
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06:07 | if you go in ltsp-cluster-control webui
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06:08 | <Merwin> yep I'm in
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06:08 | <mgariepy> Merwin, if you click on log
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06:08 | you see you client ?
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06:09 | seems to me that the client isn't in the right node.
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06:09 | <Merwin> "2011-06-01 15:05:46 3 00:0D:56:8F:66:02 192.168.2.10 192.168.2.1 192.168.2.1 thibaut User login"
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06:10 | Node 3
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06:10 | <mgariepy> click on "3"
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06:10 | you will get in the terminal configuration
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06:10 | <Merwin> It opens the config window if the computer (MAC Address identified)
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06:10 | yep
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06:11 | <mgariepy> current configuration displays what at the bottom of the screen ?
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06:11 | <Merwin> Nothing
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06:11 | <mgariepy> is the client at the right place in the "node tree"
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06:13 | <Merwin> mgariepy: http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/469297CaptureLTSPClusterControlCenterMozillaFirefox.png
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06:13 | <alkisg> Gnoze5: then use vbox images with windows 7 :)
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06:13 | <Merwin> I'm not sure it's in the right place...
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06:13 | <Gnoze5> hm vbox..
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06:14 | <alkisg> You can even put that on a fat client so that it runs locally on the thin client
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06:14 | <mgariepy> click on nodes, in the bottom select the correct node where it should be
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06:14 | <alkisg> erm...
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06:14 | <mgariepy> then click on "go"
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06:14 | <alkisg> OK didn't phrase that correctly :D
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06:14 | <Gnoze5> alkisg what was that sentence?
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06:14 | lool
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06:15 | <alkisg> brain damage :D I mean that you can run vbox either on the ltsp server, or locally on the clients
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06:15 | So you can have semi-fat clients that only show a vbox screen, no ldm or anything
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06:16 | <Merwin> mgariepy: I put it as a child of the root node
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06:16 | <mgariepy> you should put the client as a child where you have set your attributes
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06:16 | <Merwin> ok
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06:17 | <Gnoze5> We have so far convinced 5 organizations to take part in our pilot test with ltsp
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06:17 | <Merwin> mgariepy: So no attributes in the root node?
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06:17 | <Gnoze5> and what all of them essentially demanded in terms of legacy support was a way to access to a MS Office on a regular basis
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06:17 | <mgariepy> i usually set all attributes in root node except for the printers stuff
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06:18 | <Gnoze5> to either convert docx
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06:18 | or if they had to work on a docx document sent by a governement branch for some specific projects
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06:18 | <mgariepy> then i create node for building/rooms then put my clients in there
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06:19 | <alkisg> Gnoze5: in my experience anyone that isn't willing to switch from ms office to openoffice, shouldn't switch to a linux desktop, he'll have other problems too... So I'd use windows desktops for them (VMs, rdp, citrix, whatever) for them
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06:19 | <Merwin> mgariepy: I created a child node, and put it inside. I configured the child node, but their still have nothing into "Current configuration"
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06:20 | <mgariepy> this way you can have different printers depending on the physical location of the thin client.
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06:20 | <Merwin> If I give access to the admin panel can you check ?
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06:21 | <mgariepy> yeah i can take a minute to check it out
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06:21 | <Gnoze5> alkisg they are willing to switch to open office, they just cant control specific cases where the project standard is docx
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06:21 | so
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06:21 | 99% the times they use open office
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06:21 | <alkisg> Gnoze5:ah ok I thought you said "regular basis"
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06:22 | <Gnoze5> i did
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06:22 | <alkisg> So you could cover the 1% with just a few windows desktops?
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06:22 | <Gnoze5> they essentially want 1 backup
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06:22 | yeah
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06:22 | our idea is to use straight RDP maybe
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06:22 | like have a windows desktop on the network with office installed
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06:22 | and whoever needs to access office
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06:23 | just rdps in
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06:23 | <alkisg> Yup sounds easy enough, even if that is just a VM
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06:23 | Virtualbox clones on demand can even be scripted
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06:24 | <Gnoze5> my question is
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06:25 | can I make that RDP normal session into a single window running a specific app?
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06:26 | <alkisg> I think freerdp has a bounty for that
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06:28 | http://www.freerdp.com/wiki/doku.php?id=tsoc TS RemoteApp (Seamless Applications over RDP)
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06:29 | <Gnoze5> I see, not implemented yet
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06:29 | http://linuxologist.com/apps/run-windows-apps-100-seamlessly-on-ubuntu/
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06:30 | this guy does it somehow though
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06:30 | with seamless RDP
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06:30 | but this implies a TS Server
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06:30 | so a Windows 7 Machine wont exactly work
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06:34 | <alkisg> I think seamless rdp, the way rdesktop does it, isn't seamless, it just has a transparent background
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06:34 | Vbox does the same too. A little helpful, but not the same as remoteapp in ms rdp 6.1
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06:42 | <Gnoze5> hm
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07:12 | <Merwin> Hum, I just made X crash on a thin client, but it can't restart automatically, it tries but never restart. Using Ctrl+F1 to access a console works, but each time it restarts it switch to Ctrl+F7 console. Is there some logfiles I can check to understand what's the problem ?
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07:27 | <nivardus> if I have a seperate dhcp server and point next-server to the ltsp server, do I need to have dhcp running on the ltsp machine or is tftp sufficient?
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07:42 | <alkisg_web> nivardus: tftp is sufficient
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10:40 | <pmatulis> any tricks getting usb cd writers to work on clients?
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10:41 | <Gnoze5> ok i managed to get TS remoteapp seamlessly
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10:41 | interesting.
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10:41 | <_UsUrPeR_> I have solved my own question about the DVI problem I was having earlier this morning: Pin 15 needs to be grounded. If it is not grounded, a DVI monitor will not know that it is plugged in to a DVI output.
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10:45 | <Gadi> pmatulis: run a cd-burner app as a local app
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10:45 | _UsUrPeR_: how did you manage to not ground a pin?
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10:45 | have you been splicing things again?
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10:46 | :)
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10:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: this is going to have to be rectified by a manufacturer
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10:46 | <Gadi> ah
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11:56 | <abeehc> Gnoze5: I'm interested!
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11:57 | which route did you go
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12:20 | <warren> Gadi, hey
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12:20 | Gadi, what kind of thin clients you selling these days? (chipset)?
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12:21 | <Gadi> hey, warren
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12:21 | atoms and vias
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12:22 | <warren> Gadi, atom with intel video?
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12:22 | <Gadi> yup
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12:22 | <warren> Gadi, what via chipset? how's open source driver support?
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12:22 | <Gadi> the binary driver support is better
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12:22 | <warren> in what ways?
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12:22 | <Gadi> I have some CN700s and some CN896
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12:23 | <warren> Gadi, and aren't the binary drivers compatible with only certain versions of x and kernel?
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12:23 | <Gadi> well, with binary, I get much better support for dual monitors, dvi, etc
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12:23 | the source is available
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12:23 | but their Linux team is small
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12:23 | so it is kinda catch as catch can
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12:23 | once upon a time, they were supposed to work with the openchrome folks
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12:24 | not sure what the story was
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12:24 | <warren> source available, but not open source license?
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12:24 | <Gadi> but, I notice they continue to publish new binaries on their site
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12:24 | <warren> Gadi, there's bad blood between via and the open developers
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12:24 | <Gadi> ah
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12:24 | lovely
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12:24 | :)
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12:24 | <warren> the desire to sell products almost broke down that barrier
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12:24 | but sounds like they're continuing to fuck themselves
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12:24 | <Gadi> they need a bts, like us
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12:25 | :)
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12:25 | then, they wouldnt get so grumpy
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12:25 | <warren> what do you mean by "source is available"?
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12:25 | <Gadi> go to linux.via.com.tw
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12:25 | and play with the pulldowns
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12:26 | <warren> it's actualy source that matches the binaries?
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12:26 | <Gadi> you will see that some combinations lead to source code
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12:26 | yeah
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12:26 | but, I think you need to know Chinese to decipher how to compile it
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12:26 | :)
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12:26 | even with the binaries, some work, some don't
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12:27 | <Gadi> but, some features (like dual head) force me to spend the time to find the right combo
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12:27 | <warren> Gadi, what's the price difference between the atom and via clients?
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12:27 | Gadi, which sell better?
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12:27 | <Gadi> via is still cheaper (for now)
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12:27 | <warren> how much cheaper?
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12:28 | <Gadi> it varies a lot - but, longer term, I think we will do more atoms than vias
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12:29 | <warren> Gadi, I'm working on EL6-based LTSP (and later SPICE-based terminal servers) and I need to borrow modern chipset thin clients to be sure they are supported.
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12:29 | Gadi, I no longer have corporate support.
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12:29 | <Gadi> yeah, Ive been watching the campaign
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12:29 | :)
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12:29 | good for you!
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12:29 | <warren> Atom is at least easy to support
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12:29 | <Gadi> it is quite the mitzvah
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12:30 | sotospeak
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12:30 | not sure what SPICE-based terminal servers means exactly
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12:30 | I was under the impression spice needed VDI
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12:30 | ie 1 VM per user
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12:30 | but, I may be misinformed
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12:31 | <warren> yes
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12:31 | <Gadi> yes?
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12:32 | <warren> 1 VM per user
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12:33 | VM's are created and destroyed on demand
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12:33 | <Gadi> ah
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12:33 | aside from all the server-side mojo, doesn't that not really impact LTSP short of a spice screen script?
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12:37 | <Gadi> warren: when do you start business school?
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12:37 | <warren> Gadi, August
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12:37 | <Gadi> excited?
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12:37 | <warren> Gadi, I don't see a way to integrate LTSP and SPICE at all
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12:37 | Gadi, meh
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12:38 | <Gadi> LTSP, to me, is the booting part
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12:38 | not so much the app server
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12:38 | wouldn't you network boot the clients and launch the spice client
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12:38 | to connect back to the server?
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12:42 | <warren> Gadi, oh. right. yes
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12:45 | <Gadi> why don't you make the LTSP server one of the VMs
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12:45 | if they want terminal services, they use LDM, if they want spice, they use spice
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12:46 | and everything is just a guest os
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12:47 | <warren> Gadi, yeah, that is an idea.
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13:05 | whoa. somebody just donated 200 euros out of the blue.
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14:36 | <jcbm> please alksig, i need to know where do I put my java app to be used in the thin clients
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14:37 | hello
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14:39 | <alkisg> jcbm: I told you 5 steps, which ones did you do?
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14:40 | <jcbm> the ltsp-localapps xterm was executed, and the usb was recognized
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14:41 | | |
14:41 | specifically java
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14:41 | i dont remember where do i put my app to be runned on the thin clients
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14:44 | <Hyperbyte> In the client chroot? /opt/ltsp/i386/
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14:44 | Just put it in there, in the place where you'd normally place it in the filesystem. Then ltsp-update-image
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14:45 | (I have no idea where java apps are supposed to go, but as long as they're in /opt/ltsp/i386/ they're on the client)
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14:45 | <jcbm> so, how can i execute it on the client
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14:45 | after copy it
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14:46 | <Hyperbyte> I have no idea how you run java apps, but just like you'd execute any other app, but via ltsp-localapps.
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14:46 | <jcbm> i have copy it on that path, but i don't know how can i access to the app?
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14:47 | <alkisg> At which path exactly did you put the app?
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14:49 | <jcbm> "/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin"
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14:50 | <alkisg> How do you run the app normally? With what command?
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14:50 | <jcbm> java -jar app.jar
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14:51 | <alkisg> OK. Sit on a client. Run ltsp-localapps xterm
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14:51 | On that xterm, run: ls -l /usr/sbin/app.jar
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14:51 | Is the file there?
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14:52 | <jcbm> let me see
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14:53 | nop it's not there
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14:53 | <alkisg> Then you missed some step.
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14:53 | Now on the server, try: ls -l /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/app.jar
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14:53 | Is the file there?
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14:54 | <jcbm> yes
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14:54 | it's in the server
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14:54 | but not in the thin client
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14:54 | <alkisg> Then you didn't run ltsp-update-image
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14:55 | So run: sudo ltsp-update-image
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14:55 | And then reboot the client
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14:55 | <jcbm> ok wait pls
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15:03 | thanks
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15:03 | my app is working
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15:03 | one question
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15:04 | how can i do to make the app get working when the server or thin client is rebooted
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15:04 | <alkisg> I didn't understand your question, can you rephrase it?
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15:05 | If you reboot the server, the client will crash...
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15:05 | <jcbm> no no
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15:06 | i need my app working when the server or the thin client will be rebooted
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15:06 | <alkisg> You mean that you want it to autostart?
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15:07 | <jcbm> yes
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15:07 | that's it
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15:07 | <alkisg> Is this the only application you want to run? No user login, no gnome, nothing else?
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15:08 | Or do you want some user to login and then that app to autostart?
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15:09 | <jcbm> no it's the only one app
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15:10 | <alkisg> Then the best way would be to make a screen script for it
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15:10 | like this one : /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop
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15:10 | You need a little shell skills for that
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15:10 | If you *can't* do it, here's another, simpler way:
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15:11 | 1) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf ==> see LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD for how to autologin a user
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15:11 | 2) Create a .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart on the server
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15:11 | On that file, call `ltsp-localapps java -jar /usr/sbin/app.jar`
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15:11 | <alkisg> That would also do it
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15:12 | (it would be slower and need more users and more ram, but it's simpler to implement
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15:13 | <jcbm> ok, let me see, on the first way i should make a shell script similar to rdesktop
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15:13 | on the other hand, i need to call the script via lts.conf
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15:14 | is that correct?
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15:17 | <alkisg> Right, with SCREEN_07=myapp
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15:20 | 'night all
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15:57 | <Gnoze5> gentlmen!
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15:58 | <Gnoze5> so
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15:59 | i got seamless rdp working with rdesktop on a thin client with 2008 r2, but i have an issue with the windo itself
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15:59 | theres two windows, the x window and the windows window
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15:59 | both work the same, minimize yada yada, but its nnaoying having the two
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16:00 | <abeehc> im really interested but just got home, your using the c:\seemless server side binaries?
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16:00 | <Gnoze5> abeehc yep
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16:00 | <abeehc> familiar with the switches? I think there's one for that thought i'm not sure it worked
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16:00 | <Gnoze5> not at all
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16:00 | <abeehc> i gotta race back in a few; ok lemme see if i can link
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16:01 | <Gnoze5> the resolution and depth switches?
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16:01 | stuff like that?
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16:01 | <abeehc> actually
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16:01 | yeah
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16:01 | in the rdesktop man page it should mention the switches
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16:01 | i;m thinking it's -s or -A
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16:01 | <Gnoze5> yeah
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16:01 | im using those
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16:01 | -A for seamless
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16:01 | -s for shell
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16:02 | and im running the binaries from the server side
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16:06 | still the same problem
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16:06 | annoying
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16:06 | to say the leat :)
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16:12 | <abeehc> hmm
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16:13 | <abeehc> -S
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16:13 | is what i meant
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16:13 | http://linux.die.net/man/1/rdesktop
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16:13 | pretty sure.. at the same time, i think my one windows app wrapped like this still has the two sets
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16:14 | but I also didn't use the server components heh
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16:19 | <Gnoze5> hm
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16:19 | let me try
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16:21 | -A and -S dont go together
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16:21 | <abeehc> there has been some recent movements with rdesktop but i think most are moving to freerdp
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16:22 | this might be zen but i havent looked to close
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16:22 | http://davelargo.blogspot.com/2011/04/road-to-seamless-windows.html
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16:22 | <Gnoze5> from what i read freerdp does not have seamless working yet
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16:23 | so i should be using 1.7
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16:23 | lol
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16:23 | <abeehc> i think that's a good bet yeah
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16:25 | not sure if there's a legit ppa out there but this one works http://goo.gl/eabp1
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16:25 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/rdesktop/files/rdesktop/1.7.0/ -changelog
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16:26 | as i recall there wasn't anything specific to do with seamless from 1.6
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16:27 | <Gnoze5> time to adventure..
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16:37 | i wonder if they used 2008 R2
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16:38 | <abeehc> i'm not clear if that blog is.. but as you are likely aware it's supposed to be a feature of r2
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16:38 | i haven't seen that work or even tried windows to windows type thing
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16:38 | and I'm pretty confident both freedrp and rdesktop have yet to implment anything that does take advantage of whatever ms has done there
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16:48 | <Gnoze5> hm
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16:48 | abeehc different problems :P
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16:56 | annoying, very,
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18:24 | <Gnoze5> i did it!!!!
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18:24 | hah
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18:24 | lol.
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18:24 | :)
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18:31 | <Gnoze5> http://bit.ly/jTvmVw
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20:24 | <warren> Got local apps to work on LTSP EL6. Somehow nc broken was breaking localapps.
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20:24 | ltspfs is still broken for some reason I don't understand.
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