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| 08:49 | <Wiryono> Hi guys, why do everytime I change a bit of lts.conf, I got TFTP open timeout ?
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| 08:50 | I use windows dhcp server, does this the cause ?
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| 08:51 | I do tftp thinserver.myhost.com it works from ubuntu, but when boot my client with pxe it get TFTP open timeout i _ i
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| 08:59 | <Wiryono> forget to mention i have two static ip address on the server, does this cause this problem ?
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| 09:05 | Ah I think I found the culprit
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| 09:21 | <Wiryono> hmm still get a timeout
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| 09:22 | how do I make sure it connect to the correct nic ?
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| 09:23 | I add the listentointerface in the sshd_config
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| 09:23 | still not enough
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| 10:42 | <Eldaria> Hi everyone, i'm trying to setup an ltsp server on an existing Ubuntu Server, but i'm having trouble with the nbd-server, would this be the correct place to ask for help?
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| 10:43 | Been trying to track down the reason for two days now, and I think i'm on track, but can't find anything when I search for the error.
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| 10:45 | <workingcats> Eldaria, yep you're probably correct here
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| 10:49 | <Eldaria> Great. It was after I monitored the syslog, that I came across that the nbd-server starts, and then stop immediately. and in syslog it shows "nbd_server[721]: bind: Address already in use" I tried to change the(or actually add a) port in the configuration file, but same error.
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| 10:52 | <workingcats> what does "netstat -anp | grep 10809" say?
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| 10:53 | <Eldaria> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 21884/nbd-server
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| 10:53 | hmm
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| 10:53 | <workingcats> then nbd-server is already listening correctly
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| 10:53 | i have the same output
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| 10:54 | (well, plus an extra line for the established connection from the machine i'm sitting at)
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| 10:55 | <Eldaria> hmm, ok so I'm on the wrong track, I thought it was not able to start, and this is why I could not connect.
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| 10:57 | <Gremble> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients - hey all, is this a very up-to-date document? Is there something similar but focused on Debian?
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| 10:57 | "This page is specific to Ubuntu versions 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10" - RTFM Gremble :)
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| 10:58 | okay, so anything more recent available?
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| 10:59 | I'm on Debian Wheezy
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| 10:59 | <Fenuks> Gremble: It has not changed since 11.10, as far as I can tell
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| 11:02 | <Eldaria> is there a way to trace connection attempts to the nbd-server, to see if the client even tries to connect, and possibly why it fails?
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| 11:11 | <Eldaria> i'm quite sure it is the nbd part that is not working as it should, I disable the splash and see the boot sequence, I aslo see in the syslog, the pxe dhcp, and when the client request an IP. but see no indication in any logs that it tries to connect to the nbd-server. On the client it fails with "setting up nbd-client ... Error: socket failed: connection refused
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| 11:15 | <Fenuks> Eldaria: What system?
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| 11:15 | <Eldaria> Ubuntu 12.04
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| 11:16 | I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 11:18 | I changed to amd64 for 64bit for the config feil and set the corrct ip range
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| 11:28 | <wiryono> How do I check tftp server log file
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| 11:28 | I keep getting tftp time out
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| 11:28 | <workingcats> Eldaria, can you try booting one of the clients using e.g. a live cd, let it grab network config via DHCP as normal, then try to ping the server?
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| 11:29 | <wiryono> the dhcp server can ping my ltsp server ...
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| 11:31 | <Eldaria> @workingcats booting livecd
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| 11:31 | <wiryono> let me try
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| 11:38 | <wiryono> I can ping normally
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| 11:39 | @workingcats > I can ping normally from live cd to tftp server
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| 11:40 | problem with the image
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| 11:40 | ?
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| 11:40 | It works then I add some script that will be called by the user when they login manually using preferences > startup application
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| 11:41 | then it got tftp timeout ...
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| 11:44 | <workingcats> Eldaria, check the logs on the server
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| 11:44 | wiryono, you mean you do this on the server or on the logged in client?
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| 11:47 | <wiryono> on a new client machine I go to live cd and can ping ltsp server normally
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| 11:48 | 1. I can boot ltsp from the client normally
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| 11:48 | 2. then I tweak the ltsp server a bit to add some feature
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| 11:48 | 3. client can no longer boot get TFTP open timeout
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| 11:49 | 4. client boot to ubuntu live cd and can ping ltsp server
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| 11:50 | <Gremble> Fenuks, thanks
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| 11:51 | <workingcats> wiryono, so how exactly did you tweak it?
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| 11:53 | <wiryono> I add a bash script to chroot /opt/ltsp/i365/usr/local/bin, then I set in the client ( after login to ltsp ) preferences > startup application to call that script
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| 11:53 | then I do ltsp-update-image, then restart the client and get the TFTP open timeout
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| 11:53 | so I remove the script from above folder rebuild the image and still has problem
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| 11:54 | <workingcats> probably unrelated
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| 11:54 | <wiryono> oh forget to mention I got two nic, I set the dhcp to go to the correct one but maybe I need to specify in the tftp configuration ?
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| 11:54 | <workingcats> can you telnet to the tftp port from the ltsp client side?
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| 11:54 | <wiryono> because there is a case like this before I just delete the script and it works :D, but not this time
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| 11:54 | from live cd ?
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| 11:55 | ltsp client now cannot boot .... so from live cd ?
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| 11:55 | <workingcats> well anything that got its config via dhcp should be ok
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| 11:56 | <wiryono> btw what is the log file for ltsp or tftp
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| 11:57 | ouch the port is 69 ?
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| 11:57 | can't telnet
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| 11:57 | iptables problem ...
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| 12:02 | <Eldaria> workingcats: so I got it booted to a live cd, sorry for the delay, it could not boot from usb so had to make a cd. I can ping the server, as well as telnet to the nbd port 10809, server responded with "NBDMAGICIHAVEOPT"
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| 12:03 | tried to install ndb-client package, but it does not seem to want to load the module from a live cd.
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| 12:05 | <workingcats> Eldaria, yeah just wanted to confirm that the server is reachable
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| 12:21 | <Eldaria> interesting, changing the "ndbroot=" in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.cfg/default changes the error. Initially it was ndbroot=:ltsp_amd64 tried to change it to something random, and it will give the same error. However changing it to the ip, gives a "insufficient information to set up nbd, quitting (nbdroot=192.168.1.10, host=192.168.1.10, name=, port=, nbd-device=/dev/nbd0)" changing it to ip:port gicves same error Socket failed
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| 12:21 | : Connection refused.
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| 12:23 | <wiryono> when you gave up solving, it suddenly works hahahah
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> Eldaria: what's the output of this? ls -lha /opt/ltsp/images
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| 12:42 | And of this: grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd*
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| 12:42 | ==> to pastebin.com
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| 12:51 | <Eldaria> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/WJL8FAcH
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> Eldaria: restore your pxeinux.cfg/default to what it was before,
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| 12:53 | and remove the quiet/splash part,
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| 12:53 | !quiet-splash
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| 12:53 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> ...and add this instead: break=mount
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| 12:53 | Then, when you reboot the client, you'll get a busybox shell. There, run this:
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| 12:53 | !nbd-client
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| 12:53 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> Actually, you need the older version of the command line: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N ltsp_amd64 /dev/nbd0
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| 12:57 | <Eldaria> alkisg: ok, tried that, and get the socket failed: connection Refused
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> Eldaria: did you put your server IP there?
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| 12:58 | nbd-client server-ip ....
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| 12:58 | etc etc
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| 13:01 | <Eldaria> yes ndb-client 192.168.1.10 -N ltsp_amd64 /dev/nbd0
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> Eldaria: it appears your nbd-server has crashed, first stop it, then restart it, then run the command again
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| 13:15 | sudo service nbd-server stop
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| 13:15 | sudo killall nbd-server
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| 13:15 | ps aux|grep nbd (to verify it's not running)
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| 13:15 | sudo service nbd-server start
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| 13:32 | <Eldaria> alkisg: this is odd, tried to restart this time again, (tried it before, even the whole server) and now it boots, but can't login, but I will read up on that.
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| 13:33 | <Eldaria> so why did it not work before? this is so wierd.
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| 13:42 | <Eldaria> does ltsp use ssh for login?
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| 13:45 | hmm, this is going to be tricky, my ssh has password logins disabled, only key based or Google auth allowed.
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> Eldaria: I think that your nbd-server had a race condition and it crashed
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| 13:47 | That started happenning around 12.04
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| 13:47 | After it happens, you need to restart it in order to accept connections again
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| 13:47 | LTSP does use ssh for logins, yeah
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| 13:48 | What is "google auth"? No password there?
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| 13:49 | <Eldaria> Google auth, uses Google Authenticator token, so if you do not provide a key, you are required to enter a Goggle authenticator token additionally to your password
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| 13:50 | a hack i found, so I could log in even if I did not have my key with me. :-)
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| 13:50 | so server basically only allows ssh login vie key or token
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| 13:51 | would it be possible to configure ltsp to use a key stored on a usb for example?
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| 13:51 | don't really want to lower my security for ltsp. :-)
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> You'd have to script it in order to support it, it doesn't allow that out of the box
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| 13:56 | <Eldaria> hehe, ok I will do some searching, I can't be the first one. would anyway be better since this is an old laptop I was planning on letting my kid use, and well she is 4 so typing a username/password is not really goinf to work anyway. ;-)
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| 13:56 | <Eldaria> alkisg: thanks for the help on getting it to boot at least. ;-)
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> There's LDM_USERNAME/LDM_PASSWORD and LDM_AUTOLOGIN for kids
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| 13:57 | <Eldaria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AutoLoginFeatures
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| 14:07 | <mar77i> hello #ltsp. bear with me please, I'm trying to set up ltsp on ubuntu again and I'm not having the default config files in the packages. the packages, that is ltsp-server, ltsp-server-standalone and ltspfs
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| 14:15 | I may have too high expectations about packaging, but this is ...
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| 14:15 | whoa
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| 14:15 | that machine isn't even running a daemon
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| 14:16 | confuse me
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| 15:04 | <mar77i> oh well
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| 15:05 | I'm reproducing our test environment's config from files looked at in .bash_history :)
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| 15:41 | <Hyperbyte> mar77i, hi.
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| 15:41 | If you have a problem with LTSP, please be more elaborate. :-)
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| 15:42 | You're missing a config file? Which? And what daemon are you expecting to run?
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| 16:16 | <Eldaria> i'm trying to configure LDM_AUTOLOGIN, but it seems the client is ignoring what I put into the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf
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| 16:17 | do I need to lts-update-image to make it take effect?
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| 16:25 | <ogra_> Eldaria, no, but you need a proper [default} section at the top, else the file wont be parsed, also are your clients actually amd64 ?
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| 16:25 | (else you would put it in the i386 subdir)
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| 16:30 | <Eldaria> ogra_: Well, they don't really 'need' to be amd64 it is an amd and it is 64bit capable. ;-) but I was thinking this could be the reason.
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| 16:30 | <ogra_> well, do they use the and amd64 image currently ?
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| 16:30 | <Eldaria> yes, I only have a amd64 image
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| 16:31 | <ogra_> the lts.conf simply needs to be in the matching tftp dir for the image you use
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| 16:35 | <Eldaria> hmm, it seems to ignore what I put in there, tried some other settings just to see, added SOUND=False to the [Default] but after restartint client there is still sound.
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| 16:36 | <ogra_> check the server logs, you should see whats requested and sent via tftp
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| 16:43 | <Eldaria> ogra_: i'm monitoring (tail -f) syslog, auth.log, any other log I should watch, since I don't see any tftp traffic in those, only the "client does not accept optins"
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| 16:56 | <ogra_> Eldaria, syslog should suffice usually
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| 16:57 | (at least on a recent ubuntu almost everything is pushed there)
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| 16:59 | <Hyperbyte> Eldaria, run: getltscfg -a in a local xterm
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| 16:59 | !localxterm
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| 16:59 | <ltsp> localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
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| 17:00 | * ogra_ has forgotten all that magic over the years ... :P | |
| 17:00 | <Hyperbyte> getltscfg -a will show the config that the client actually loaded.
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| 17:00 | ogra_, no worries. :)
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| 17:01 | Happens to the best of us. ;-)
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| 17:02 | Eldaria, also, pastebin your lts.conf
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| 17:10 | <Eldaria> Hyperbyte: ok, the getltscfg -a in a local xterm returned nothing, pastebin of log http://pastebin.com/HQvDrtTb pastebin of lts.config: http://pastebin.com/0XcmRYw3
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| 17:23 | <Hyperbyte> lts.config?
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| 17:24 | lts.conf you mean?
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| 17:24 | pastebin the output of ls -al /var/lib/tftpboot/amd64/
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| 17:31 | <Eldaria> soory yes conf
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| 17:33 | Hyberbyte: http://pastebin.com/RZqBuqYH
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| 17:41 | <Eldaria> Hyperbyte: Hmm, misspelled your nick.
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| 17:42 | Trying to put my daughter in bed at the same time as troubleshooting, reading documentation, forums, chatting.
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| 18:15 | <Hyperbyte> Eldaria, that's life. I'm doing lots of stuff too. :)
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| 18:20 | Eldaria, what distribution/version is this?
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